Guest Terry Posted August 22, 2007 Posted August 22, 2007 I only use my laptop for web surfing. I also keep F Secure anti virus software on it. The trouble is that F Secure has bloated to need 256k memory. Every time I use the machine, after a while, I will get a report that Windoze is using virtual memory. I can live with this, I would just like the daily warning to go away. Can this warning be disabled? Thanks for your time.
Guest flamer die.spam@hotmail.com Posted August 22, 2007 Posted August 22, 2007 Re: Laptop low memory report. On Aug 22, 3:58 pm, Terry <kilow...@charter.net> wrote: > I only use my laptop for web surfing. I also keep F Secure anti virus > software on it. The trouble is that F Secure has bloated to need 256k > memory. Every time I use the machine, after a while, I will get a > report that Windoze is using virtual memory. I can live with this, I > would just like the daily warning to go away. > > Can this warning be disabled? > > Thanks for your time. is the warning saying its low on system resources? I have never seen a warning saying "windows is using virtual memory" - I would expect it to use virtual memory quite often for day to day use. Could possibly be adware if it has a 'click here to fix' link in the message. Flamer.
Guest Gerry Posted August 22, 2007 Posted August 22, 2007 Re: Laptop low memory report. Terry Try Ctrl+Alt+Delete to select Task Manager and click the Performance Tab. Under Commit Charge what is the Total, the Limit and the Peak? How large is your hard disk and how much free space. Right click on your C drive in Windows and select Properties to get this information. How much RAM memory? What is your processor speed? -- Hope this helps. Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Terry wrote: > I only use my laptop for web surfing. I also keep F Secure anti virus > software on it. The trouble is that F Secure has bloated to need 256k > memory. Every time I use the machine, after a while, I will get a > report that Windoze is using virtual memory. I can live with this, I > would just like the daily warning to go away. > > Can this warning be disabled? > > Thanks for your time.
Guest Jim Posted August 22, 2007 Posted August 22, 2007 Re: Laptop low memory report. "Terry" <kilowatt@charter.net> wrote in message news:1187755135.876282.58500@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com... >I only use my laptop for web surfing. I also keep F Secure anti virus > software on it. The trouble is that F Secure has bloated to need 256k > memory. Every time I use the machine, after a while, I will get a > report that Windoze is using virtual memory. I can live with this, I > would just like the daily warning to go away. > > Can this warning be disabled? > > Thanks for your time. > Windows processes are always using virtual memory. Some of the virtual memory is located in physical RAM. The rest of the virtual memory is located in the pagefile. The usual reason for Windows to notify you about virtual memory is that the pagefile is too small. I recommend setting the pagefile to "system managed". If you still receive notifications after working on the pagefile, you likely to have some other more obscure problem. As for F Secure, a lot of Norton users would be very happy to see the AV software use so little. After all, 256kb is a drop in the bucket of the suggested RAM of 512MB. Jim
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted August 22, 2007 Posted August 22, 2007 Re: Laptop low memory report. Windows always uses Memory, not Virtual Memory. Memory is RAM plus Virtual Memory (the page file(s).) -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com "Jim" <j.n@nospam.com> wrote in message news:C1Zyi.47303$Um6.23437@newssvr12.news.prodigy.net... > > "Terry" <kilowatt@charter.net> wrote in message > news:1187755135.876282.58500@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com... >>I only use my laptop for web surfing. I also keep F Secure anti virus >> software on it. The trouble is that F Secure has bloated to need 256k >> memory. Every time I use the machine, after a while, I will get a >> report that Windoze is using virtual memory. I can live with this, I >> would just like the daily warning to go away. >> >> Can this warning be disabled? >> >> Thanks for your time. >> > Windows processes are always using virtual memory. Some of the virtual > memory is located in physical RAM. The rest of the virtual memory is > located in the pagefile. > The usual reason for Windows to notify you about virtual memory is that the > pagefile is too small. I recommend setting the pagefile to "system > managed". > If you still receive notifications after working on the pagefile, you likely > to have some other more obscure problem. > > As for F Secure, a lot of Norton users would be very happy to see the AV > software use so little. After all, 256kb is a drop in the bucket of the > suggested RAM of > 512MB. > > Jim > >
Guest Ken Blake Posted August 22, 2007 Posted August 22, 2007 Re: Laptop low memory report. "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message news:eGP2%23UO5HHA.6024@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Windows always uses Memory, not Virtual Memory. > Memory is RAM plus Virtual Memory (the page file(s). Gary, a clarification here: that's not the way Microsoft uses the term. The term "Virtual Memory" refers to the full complement of memory in your computer: it's the sum of physical memory (RAM) plus the Page File. See <http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dngenlib/html/msdn_virtmm.asp> or <http://tinyurl.com/5l5m2> -- Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User Please reply to the newsgroup
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted August 22, 2007 Posted August 22, 2007 Re: Laptop low memory report. Well, that's downright silly! Nothing at all virtual about RAM. But what do you expect from a company that calls partitions drives? -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com "Ken Blake" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message news:%23LGMbZO5HHA.5424@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message > news:eGP2%23UO5HHA.6024@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > >> Windows always uses Memory, not Virtual Memory. >> Memory is RAM plus Virtual Memory (the page file(s). > > > Gary, a clarification here: that's not the way Microsoft uses the term. The > term "Virtual Memory" refers to the full complement of memory in your > computer: it's the sum of physical memory (RAM) plus the Page File. > See > <http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dngenlib/html/msdn_virtmm.asp> > > or <http://tinyurl.com/5l5m2> > > > -- > Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User > Please reply to the newsgroup > >
Guest jorgen Posted August 22, 2007 Posted August 22, 2007 Re: Laptop low memory report. Gary S. Terhune wrote: > Well, that's downright silly! Nothing at all virtual about RAM. But what do you expect from a company that calls partitions drives? > But it is still called virtual memory. Applications live in a virtual memory space, they don't address physical memory directly. The CPU has a memory management unit that can translate virtual memory addresses into physical addresses
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted August 22, 2007 Posted August 22, 2007 Re: Laptop low memory report. Hmmm... OK, makes sense. So Virtual Memory does not equate with "Page file". My bad. Oh, and here's a decent discussion: http://members.shaw.ca/bsanders/WindowsGeneralWeb/RAMVirtualMemoryPageFileEtc.htm -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com "jorgen" <na@invalid> wrote in message news:OAe4f0O5HHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Gary S. Terhune wrote: >> Well, that's downright silly! Nothing at all virtual about RAM. But what do you expect from a company that calls partitions drives? >> > > But it is still called virtual memory. Applications live in a virtual > memory space, they don't address physical memory directly. The CPU has a > memory management unit that can translate virtual memory addresses into > physical addresses
Guest Terry Posted August 23, 2007 Posted August 23, 2007 Re: Laptop low memory report. On Aug 21, 11:58 pm, Terry <kilow...@charter.net> wrote: > I only use my laptop for web surfing. I also keep F Secure anti virus > software on it. The trouble is that F Secure has bloated to need 256k > memory. Every time I use the machine, after a while, I will get a > report that Windoze is using virtual memory. I can live with this, I > would just like the daily warning to go away. > > Can this warning be disabled? > > Thanks for your time. After reading all your helpful suggestions, I checked my virtual memory settings. They came preset from Dell to 384/768. I changed it to let Windows manage it, but I still get the error. I have 40G free hard drive space and the CPU is about 800 MHz with 256K memory. Here is the error screenshot: http://i10.tinypic.com/4uore2p.jpg There will be an enlarge icon that pops up on the lower right of the screen when you hover the mouse. Thanks for your time.
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted August 23, 2007 Posted August 23, 2007 Re: Laptop low memory report. Look at those RAM figures again. You almost certainly have 256 *MB* of RAM. Go to Control Panel, System, and see what it says there. Even if you have 256 MB of RAM, that isn't enough to run Windows XP decently. You need double that. I run a machine with 384 MB of RAM, but I only use it for testing some things in XP, certainly not for running major applications, and definitely not for regular use. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com "Terry" <kilowatt@charter.net> wrote in message news:1187886767.280076.255940@r23g2000prd.googlegroups.com... > On Aug 21, 11:58 pm, Terry <kilow...@charter.net> wrote: >> I only use my laptop for web surfing. I also keep F Secure anti virus >> software on it. The trouble is that F Secure has bloated to need 256k >> memory. Every time I use the machine, after a while, I will get a >> report that Windoze is using virtual memory. I can live with this, I >> would just like the daily warning to go away. >> >> Can this warning be disabled? >> >> Thanks for your time. > > After reading all your helpful suggestions, I checked my virtual > memory settings. They came preset from Dell to 384/768. I changed it > to let Windows manage it, but I still get the error. > > I have 40G free hard drive space and the CPU is about 800 MHz with > 256K memory. > > Here is the error screenshot: http://i10.tinypic.com/4uore2p.jpg > There will be an enlarge icon that pops up on the lower right of the > screen when you hover the mouse. > > Thanks for your time. >
Guest Gerry Posted August 23, 2007 Posted August 23, 2007 Re: Laptop low memory report. Terry Try Ctrl+Alt+Delete to select Task Manager and click the Performance Tab. Under Commit Charge what is the Total, the Limit and the Peak? How large is your hard disk and how much free space. Right click on your C drive in Windows and select Properties to get this information. You mention 40 gb for your hard drive but this the size or the available free disk space. They will not be the same. -- Hope this helps. Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Terry wrote: > On Aug 21, 11:58 pm, Terry <kilow...@charter.net> wrote: >> I only use my laptop for web surfing. I also keep F Secure anti >> virus software on it. The trouble is that F Secure has bloated to >> need 256k memory. Every time I use the machine, after a while, I >> will get a report that Windoze is using virtual memory. I can live >> with this, I would just like the daily warning to go away. >> >> Can this warning be disabled? >> >> Thanks for your time. > > After reading all your helpful suggestions, I checked my virtual > memory settings. They came preset from Dell to 384/768. I changed it > to let Windows manage it, but I still get the error. > > I have 40G free hard drive space and the CPU is about 800 MHz with > 256K memory. > > Here is the error screenshot: http://i10.tinypic.com/4uore2p.jpg > There will be an enlarge icon that pops up on the lower right of the > screen when you hover the mouse. > > Thanks for your time.
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