Guest Samantha Posted August 22, 2007 Posted August 22, 2007 Hi, I just upgraded my cpu and mb and I can't setup a win98\xp dual boot because of no drivers for 98. I never allowed xp on the net because I didn't trust it. I think I read somewhere, that it gathers info about the hardware and software, then sends it to MS. I can understand this with 'only' their software but the hardware is my own business. Is there a way to safely surf with this OS? Someone put all the security patches together for win98 - did anyone do this for xp? There's like 100 patches to manually download. I installed Comodo Firewall and noticed that there are a lot of components listed to access the net.What ones can you safely block (like windows update) while still able to surf? Thanks for any help, Samantha
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted August 22, 2007 Posted August 22, 2007 Re: security questions & comodo firewall WinXP is significantly more secure than Win98 (and I'm primarily a 98 advisor.) If you have no problem with MS knowing what software you run and how often and if there are any problems with it, then you should understand that for much of that data to make any sense, they need to know what hardware you're using, also. Just like we need to have that info in many cases before we can diagnose your problem. No personal info is transmitted. You can stop Automatic Updates easily. Then you can choose whether or not to go to Windows Updates and when. In fact, you can safely refuse MS any call-back or automatic update functions. They are all optional. Sorry to say that you will need to install those 100 Updates one at a time or in batches until early next year when SP3 is supposed to be released. Nobody is happy about that, not even the folks at MS (most of them, anyway.) -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com "Samantha" <none> wrote in message news:46cc4c78$0$6486$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... > Hi, > > I just upgraded my cpu and mb and I can't setup a win98\xp dual boot > because of no drivers for 98. I never allowed xp on the net because > I didn't trust it. I think I read somewhere, that it gathers info > about the hardware and software, then sends it to MS. I can > understand this with 'only' their software but the hardware is my > own business. Is there a way to safely surf with this OS? Someone > put all the security patches together for win98 - did anyone do this > for xp? There's like 100 patches to manually download. > > I installed Comodo Firewall and noticed that there are a lot of > components listed to access the net.What ones can you safely block > (like windows update) while still able to surf? > > Thanks for any help, > Samantha > >
Guest Samantha Posted August 22, 2007 Posted August 22, 2007 Re: security questions & comodo firewall "Gary S. Terhune" WinXP is significantly more secure than Win98 (and I'm primarily a 98 advisor.) You're right, XP is more secure but at least with 98, I had full control of the OS. It doesn't undo changes that I make in the registry or other places like XP does. It's a hassle to replace somthing as simple as Notepad with Metapad even though it can be done. They should release a tech version for advanced users rather than have a dummy-proof OS for everyone. Sorry for the gripping but I feel better. :) "Gary S. Terhune" If you have no problem with MS knowing what software you run and how often and if there are any problems with it, then you should understand that for much of that data to make any sense, they need to know what hardware you're using, also. OK. I understand their reasoning but I guess I have a problem with it since they didn't operate that way with 98. They relied on users offering hardware info rather than *just taking it* and that's what bugs me. It's like someone going through my home without my permission. I rather not allow any info out to the net if that be the case. I turned off Auto-update in Services. Are there any other services or components that I need to disable or block (by firewall) that sends info? "Gary S. Terhune" Sorry to say that you will need to install those 100 Updates one at a time or in batches until early next year when SP3 is supposed to be released. Nobody is happy about that, not even the folks at MS (most of them, anyway.) Oh, joy!! You just made my day, Gary. I want to crawl back in bed! LOL Thanks for your reply. "Samantha" > Hi, > > I just upgraded my cpu and mb and I can't setup a win98\xp dual boot > because of no drivers for 98. I never allowed xp on the net because > I didn't trust it. I think I read somewhere, that it gathers info > about the hardware and software, then sends it to MS. I can > understand this with 'only' their software but the hardware is my > own business. Is there a way to safely surf with this OS? Someone > put all the security patches together for win98 - did anyone do this > for xp? There's like 100 patches to manually download. > > I installed Comodo Firewall and noticed that there are a lot of > components listed to access the net.What ones can you safely block > (like windows update) while still able to surf? > > Thanks for any help, > Samantha > >
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted August 22, 2007 Posted August 22, 2007 Re: security questions & comodo firewall I understand. The idiot-proofing never ends, <s>. That's why I'm not using Vista yet. No patience to learn the workarounds. I'm sure there are ways to accomplish what you want to accomplish. Consider posting here with specific, limited goals (not just a general "how do I turn all of this off?") -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com "Samantha" <none> wrote in message news:46cc68d9$0$16462$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... > "Gary S. Terhune" > WinXP is significantly more secure than Win98 (and I'm primarily a > 98 advisor.) > > You're right, XP is more secure but at least with 98, I had full > control of the OS. It doesn't undo changes that I make in the > registry or other places like XP does. It's a hassle to replace > somthing as simple as Notepad with Metapad even though it can be > done. They should release a tech version for advanced users rather > than have a dummy-proof OS for everyone. Sorry for the gripping but > I feel better. :) > > "Gary S. Terhune" > If you have no problem with MS knowing what software you run and how > often and if there are any problems with it, then you should > understand that for much of that data to make any sense, they need > to know what hardware you're using, also. > > OK. I understand their reasoning but I guess I have a problem with > it since they didn't operate that way with 98. They relied on users > offering hardware info rather than *just taking it* and that's what > bugs me. It's like someone going through my home without my > permission. I rather not allow any info out to the net if that be > the case. I turned off Auto-update in Services. Are there any other > services or components that I need to disable or block (by firewall) > that sends info? > > "Gary S. Terhune" > Sorry to say that you will need to install those 100 Updates one at > a time or in batches until early next year when SP3 is supposed to > be released. Nobody is happy about that, not even the folks at MS > (most of them, anyway.) > > Oh, joy!! You just made my day, Gary. I want to crawl back in bed! > LOL > Thanks for your reply. > > "Samantha" >> Hi, >> >> I just upgraded my cpu and mb and I can't setup a win98\xp dual > boot >> because of no drivers for 98. I never allowed xp on the net > because >> I didn't trust it. I think I read somewhere, that it gathers info >> about the hardware and software, then sends it to MS. I can >> understand this with 'only' their software but the hardware is my >> own business. Is there a way to safely surf with this OS? Someone > >> put all the security patches together for win98 - did anyone do > this >> for xp? There's like 100 patches to manually download. >> >> I installed Comodo Firewall and noticed that there are a lot of >> components listed to access the net.What ones can you safely block >> (like windows update) while still able to surf? >> >> Thanks for any help, >> Samantha >> >> > >
Guest Samantha Posted August 22, 2007 Posted August 22, 2007 Re: security questions & comodo firewall "Gary S. Terhune" I understand. The idiot-proofing never ends, <s>. That's why I'm not using Vista yet. No patience to learn the workarounds. I'm sure there are ways to accomplish what you want to accomplish. Consider posting here with specific, limited goals (not just a general "how do I turn all of this off?") Yeah, I heard vista is even worse. I'll jump to ReactOS (hopefully they'll be ready by then) or linux before I use vista. I wish I could post more specific questions but I don't know what to look for so I'm not sure what to ask. Can you point me to a website to get me started so I can be more specific as you suggested? "Samantha" > "Gary S. Terhune" > WinXP is significantly more secure than Win98 (and I'm primarily a > 98 advisor.) > > You're right, XP is more secure but at least with 98, I had full > control of the OS. It doesn't undo changes that I make in the > registry or other places like XP does. It's a hassle to replace > somthing as simple as Notepad with Metapad even though it can be > done. They should release a tech version for advanced users rather > than have a dummy-proof OS for everyone. Sorry for the gripping but > I feel better. :) > > "Gary S. Terhune" > If you have no problem with MS knowing what software you run and how > often and if there are any problems with it, then you should > understand that for much of that data to make any sense, they need > to know what hardware you're using, also. > > OK. I understand their reasoning but I guess I have a problem with > it since they didn't operate that way with 98. They relied on users > offering hardware info rather than *just taking it* and that's what > bugs me. It's like someone going through my home without my > permission. I rather not allow any info out to the net if that be > the case. I turned off Auto-update in Services. Are there any other > services or components that I need to disable or block (by firewall) > that sends info? > > "Gary S. Terhune" > Sorry to say that you will need to install those 100 Updates one at > a time or in batches until early next year when SP3 is supposed to > be released. Nobody is happy about that, not even the folks at MS > (most of them, anyway.) > > Oh, joy!! You just made my day, Gary. I want to crawl back in bed! > LOL > Thanks for your reply. > > "Samantha" >> Hi, >> >> I just upgraded my cpu and mb and I can't setup a win98\xp dual > boot >> because of no drivers for 98. I never allowed xp on the net > because >> I didn't trust it. I think I read somewhere, that it gathers info >> about the hardware and software, then sends it to MS. I can >> understand this with 'only' their software but the hardware is my >> own business. Is there a way to safely surf with this OS? Someone > >> put all the security patches together for win98 - did anyone do > this >> for xp? There's like 100 patches to manually download. >> >> I installed Comodo Firewall and noticed that there are a lot of >> components listed to access the net.What ones can you safely block >> (like windows update) while still able to surf? >> >> Thanks for any help, >> Samantha >> >> > >
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted August 22, 2007 Posted August 22, 2007 Re: security questions & comodo firewall Your general question is still too general, and I don't specifically know of a site that deals with it. As to your specific question about Comodo, you'd have to ask about each one (unless Comodo has a reference.) And there's always Google. When it comes to Windows Updates (I presume you're talking about Automatic Updates -- wouldn't want to block the Windows Updates site or the controls that allow it to run) -- all you have to do is turn off Automatic Updates. Other phone-home aspects in apps can almost always be disabled, but how depends on the app. If Comodo lets you log internet traffic, you can tell from that which items are trying to access the internet and deal with them one by one. As for getting Updates without using Windows Updates... Try this: http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/v7/site/Search.aspx?q=windows%20xp That site requires an Active-X installation, so if it loses the search term, all I used was Windows XP.) Note that it found more than 1000. Probably includes all languages. What I do it use Windows Updates to determine which I need and then get just those. I certainly don't try to second-guess WU as to what to install and what not to install. Not sure if I covered all you bases... What else? -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com "Samantha" <none> wrote in message news:46cc7e08$0$18991$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... > "Gary S. Terhune" > I understand. The idiot-proofing never ends, <s>. That's why I'm not > using Vista yet. No patience to learn the workarounds. I'm sure > there are ways to accomplish what you want to accomplish. Consider > posting here with specific, limited goals (not just a general "how > do I turn all of this off?") > > Yeah, I heard vista is even worse. I'll jump to ReactOS (hopefully > they'll be ready by then) or linux before I use vista. I wish I > could post more specific questions but I don't know what to look for > so I'm not sure what to ask. Can you point me to a website to get me > started so I can be more specific as you suggested? > > > "Samantha" >> "Gary S. Terhune" >> WinXP is significantly more secure than Win98 (and I'm primarily a >> 98 advisor.) >> >> You're right, XP is more secure but at least with 98, I had full >> control of the OS. It doesn't undo changes that I make in the >> registry or other places like XP does. It's a hassle to replace >> somthing as simple as Notepad with Metapad even though it can be >> done. They should release a tech version for advanced users rather >> than have a dummy-proof OS for everyone. Sorry for the gripping > but >> I feel better. :) >> >> "Gary S. Terhune" >> If you have no problem with MS knowing what software you run and > how >> often and if there are any problems with it, then you should >> understand that for much of that data to make any sense, they need >> to know what hardware you're using, also. >> >> OK. I understand their reasoning but I guess I have a problem with >> it since they didn't operate that way with 98. They relied on > users >> offering hardware info rather than *just taking it* and that's > what >> bugs me. It's like someone going through my home without my >> permission. I rather not allow any info out to the net if that be >> the case. I turned off Auto-update in Services. Are there any > other >> services or components that I need to disable or block (by > firewall) >> that sends info? >> >> "Gary S. Terhune" >> Sorry to say that you will need to install those 100 Updates one > at >> a time or in batches until early next year when SP3 is supposed to >> be released. Nobody is happy about that, not even the folks at MS >> (most of them, anyway.) >> >> Oh, joy!! You just made my day, Gary. I want to crawl back in bed! >> LOL >> Thanks for your reply. >> >> "Samantha" >>> Hi, >>> >>> I just upgraded my cpu and mb and I can't setup a win98\xp dual >> boot >>> because of no drivers for 98. I never allowed xp on the net >> because >>> I didn't trust it. I think I read somewhere, that it gathers info >>> about the hardware and software, then sends it to MS. I can >>> understand this with 'only' their software but the hardware is my >>> own business. Is there a way to safely surf with this OS? Someone >> >>> put all the security patches together for win98 - did anyone do >> this >>> for xp? There's like 100 patches to manually download. >>> >>> I installed Comodo Firewall and noticed that there are a lot of >>> components listed to access the net.What ones can you safely > block >>> (like windows update) while still able to surf? >>> >>> Thanks for any help, >>> Samantha >>> >>> >> >> > >
Guest smlunatick Posted August 22, 2007 Posted August 22, 2007 Re: security questions & comodo firewall On Aug 22, 10:47 am, "Samantha" <none> wrote: > Hi, > > I just upgraded my cpu and mb and I can't setup a win98\xp dual boot > because of no drivers for 98. I never allowed xp on the net because > I didn't trust it. I think I read somewhere, that it gathers info > about the hardware and software, then sends it to MS. I can > understand this with 'only' their software but the hardware is my > own business. Is there a way to safely surf with this OS? Someone > put all the security patches together for win98 - did anyone do this > for xp? There's like 100 patches to manually download. > > I installed Comodo Firewall and noticed that there are a lot of > components listed to access the net.What ones can you safely block > (like windows update) while still able to surf? > > Thanks for any help, > Samantha In responce to the Comodo firewall, I would like to state the following: 1) Very complete and complex to set up correctly. 2) With my previous experience, Comodo "integrates" too much within Windows XP. I tried their Version 2, after removing my Zone Alarm Free. It required that I "reset" the Windows WMI repository folder (this controls Security Center.) This "resetted" my anti-virus setting (need to re-install it) and some screwed up the Windows Updates. I had a "he!!" of a time to reset these settings, after dropping Comodo FW from my system. Zone Alarm Free is just 'right' so minimum setting controls for the casual XP users.
Guest Samantha Posted August 22, 2007 Posted August 22, 2007 Re: security questions & comodo firewall "Gary S. Terhune" |Not sure if I covered all you bases... What else? *snicker*. You have been very patient and kind in answering my (probably annoying) questions. Thank you for your input and time, it's appreciated. I'm going to research so I can learn to ask the right questions. ;) Samantha
Guest Samantha Posted August 22, 2007 Posted August 22, 2007 Re: security questions & comodo firewall "smlunatick" | On Aug 22, 10:47 am, "Samantha" <none> wrote: | > Hi, | > | > I just upgraded my cpu and mb and I can't setup a win98\xp dual boot | > because of no drivers for 98. I never allowed xp on the net because | > I didn't trust it. I think I read somewhere, that it gathers info | > about the hardware and software, then sends it to MS. I can | > understand this with 'only' their software but the hardware is my | > own business. Is there a way to safely surf with this OS? Someone | > put all the security patches together for win98 - did anyone do this | > for xp? There's like 100 patches to manually download. | > | > I installed Comodo Firewall and noticed that there are a lot of | > components listed to access the net.What ones can you safely block | > (like windows update) while still able to surf? | > | > Thanks for any help, | > Samantha | | In responce to the Comodo firewall, I would like to state the | following: | | 1) Very complete and complex to set up correctly. | | 2) With my previous experience, Comodo "integrates" too much within | Windows XP. I tried their Version 2, after removing my Zone Alarm | Free. It required that I "reset" the Windows WMI repository folder | (this controls Security Center.) This "resetted" my anti-virus | setting (need to re-install it) and some screwed up the Windows | Updates. I had a "he!!" of a time to reset these settings, after | dropping Comodo FW from my system. Zone Alarm Free is just 'right' so minimum setting controls for the casual XP users. The reason you went back to ZA is one of the reasons why I left it. I like feature-rich programs that allow you to tweak them. Also, ZA failed the leak test while Comodo passed. That's the main reason for switching. It's a bummer because I did like that firewall. Thanks for giving me heads-up on possible issues that I may have to resolve. Samantha
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted August 22, 2007 Posted August 22, 2007 Re: security questions & comodo firewall You're questions aren't nearly as annoying to me as your problems are to you, <s>. Have fun researching. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com "Samantha" <none> wrote in message news:46cca4ad$0$16486$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... > "Gary S. Terhune" > |Not sure if I covered all you bases... What else? > > *snicker*. You have been very patient and kind in answering my > (probably annoying) questions. Thank you for your input and time, > it's appreciated. > > I'm going to research so I can learn to ask the right questions. ;) > > Samantha > >
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