Guest (PeteCresswell) Posted August 23, 2007 Posted August 23, 2007 New PC. 40-gig "C" drive. System + Apps < 10 gigs. I'd like to re-partition the device so there's 30 gigs for "C" and 10 or whatever's left over for a "D" drive. Seems like last time I tried this by making an image, re-partitioning, and then trying to restore the image, the image utility didn't buy it bco the size discrepancy. Dunno if re-partitioning it "as-is" is possible, but it sounds like a bad idea. Anybody have a suggestion? -- PeteCresswell
Guest JS Posted August 23, 2007 Posted August 23, 2007 Re: Re-partitioning system drive without having to rebuild? 40GB drive is not very large, either buy a larger drive to replace it or add the larger drive as a second drive. JS "(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> wrote in message news:d24sc31fuat4pvl2et1cr7s2jml0894j4n@4ax.com... > New PC. > > 40-gig "C" drive. > > System + Apps < 10 gigs. > > I'd like to re-partition the device so there's 30 gigs for "C" > and 10 or whatever's left over for a "D" drive. > > Seems like last time I tried this by making an image, > re-partitioning, and then trying to restore the image, the image > utility didn't buy it bco the size discrepancy. > > Dunno if re-partitioning it "as-is" is possible, but it sounds > like a bad idea. > > > Anybody have a suggestion? > -- > PeteCresswell
Guest (PeteCresswell) Posted August 23, 2007 Posted August 23, 2007 Re: Re-partitioning system drive without having to rebuild? Per "JS" <@>: >40GB drive is not very large, either buy a larger drive to replace it or add >the larger drive as a second drive. My usual practice is to keep the system and installed apps on one device and data/work on one or more other devices. But whether I re-partition the 40-gigger or replace it, the same question remains: how to do it without having to rebuild the sys from scratch. -- PeteCresswell
Guest JS Posted August 23, 2007 Posted August 23, 2007 Re: Re-partitioning system drive without having to rebuild? Although you had a bad experience with image backup software in the past (don't know what software you used) these are two popular packages. Norton Ghost http://www.symantec.com/home_homeoffice/products/overview.jsp?pcid=br&pvid=ghost10 True Image (has a 15 day trial version also) http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing/products/trueimage/ Also some Disk Diagnostic Utilities also provide software to copy XP from the old drive to the new although I have not tried this approach the links are provided below: Western Digital's Data LifeGuard Diagnostics http://support.wdc.com/download/?cxml=n&pid=999&swid=3 Seagate's SeaTools http://www.seagate.com/www/en-us/support/downloads/seatools Maxtor's (Now Seagate) PowerMax http://www.seagate.com/maxtor/ Fujitsu's Utilities http://www.fujitsu.com/us/services/computing/storage/hdd/support/utilities.html Samsung's Disk manager software http://www.samsung.com/Products/HardDiskDrive/utilities/shdiag.htm Hitachi's Drive Fitness Test software http://www.hgst.com/hdd/support/download.htm#DFT JS "(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> wrote in message news:kg5sc3t4hu2dsuvphiqc78kl523derajmq@4ax.com... > Per "JS" <@>: >>40GB drive is not very large, either buy a larger drive to replace it or >>add >>the larger drive as a second drive. > > My usual practice is to keep the system and installed apps on one > device and data/work on one or more other devices. > > But whether I re-partition the 40-gigger or replace it, the same > question remains: how to do it without having to rebuild the sys > from scratch. > -- > PeteCresswell
Guest (PeteCresswell) Posted August 23, 2007 Posted August 23, 2007 Re: Re-partitioning system drive without having to rebuild? Per "JS" <@>: >Although you had a bad experience with image backup software in the past >(don't know what software you used) these are two popular packages. Is that to say that you'd expect them to create an image of a 40-gig system disc where 10 gigs are actually used and restore that image to a 30-gig partition? If so, maybe I'm suffering from RCI and mis-remembering something.... and maybe I should try it again.... -- PeteCresswell
Guest JS Posted August 24, 2007 Posted August 24, 2007 Re: Re-partitioning system drive without having to rebuild? Yes, there should be an option (during the restore process) to restore the image to a partition that you created on the new drive in advance of the actual restore. This way you restore to a partition (A primary partition) that already exist on the new drive and is not necessarily the same size. The restore process should also offer you the option to make it an active and boot partition. In my case I formatted my new drive as a slave and then restored the image to the new larger drive, during the restoration process I chose options to "use the new drive as the destination partition", "to use the existing larger (in other words - not to resize the partition back to the size of the old drive) partition size it found on the new drive", "make it the active partition" and most importantly "not to use any of the old drive's signature/parameter information". After the image was restored to the new drive, I powered down the PC, removed the old drive and changed the drive jumper on the new drive to a master or single, removed the old drive and booted. Note that I created the image of the C: (Windows partition) on the second partition of the old drive before I started the process. JS "(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> wrote in message news:2h7sc3hj4hco1nhfs6l9qltn6v543pgml8@4ax.com... > Per "JS" <@>: >>Although you had a bad experience with image backup software in the past >>(don't know what software you used) these are two popular packages. > > Is that to say that you'd expect them to create an image of a > 40-gig system disc where 10 gigs are actually used and restore > that image to a 30-gig partition? > > If so, maybe I'm suffering from RCI and mis-remembering > something.... and maybe I should try it again.... > -- > PeteCresswell
Guest Lil' Dave Posted August 24, 2007 Posted August 24, 2007 Re: Re-partitioning system drive without having to rebuild? "(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> wrote in message news:d24sc31fuat4pvl2et1cr7s2jml0894j4n@4ax.com... > New PC. > > 40-gig "C" drive. > > System + Apps < 10 gigs. > > I'd like to re-partition the device so there's 30 gigs for "C" > and 10 or whatever's left over for a "D" drive. > > Seems like last time I tried this by making an image, > re-partitioning, and then trying to restore the image, the image > utility didn't buy it bco the size discrepancy. > > Dunno if re-partitioning it "as-is" is possible, but it sounds > like a bad idea. > > > Anybody have a suggestion? > -- > PeteCresswell Read the thread, that is JS's replies, prior to my reply. Imaging software restorations re-creates the original partition, the file system including security modifications, and folders and files. Some allow restoration of original master boot record and drive signature as an option. Image restorations are made to unused space on a hard drive, not to a previously made partition. Some will allow restorations for creating a larger partition (all remaining space on larger hard drive for instance), but not a smaller partition. You need 3rd party partitioning software to shrink the original partition to use the current hard drive, and have remaining space for another partition. When simply moving to a larger capacity hard drive, you can use the original hard drive signature if you remove the original drive. That is, in the case of an image restore. In fact, its preferrable if it contains the original XP installation you intend to use. In such a case, I leave out the original hard drive for up to month to be sure the larger hard drive is kosher, and everything works. Afterwards, I reinsert the original hard drive as slave or secondary master or slave, not allowing the new XP on the new hard drive to see it. Immediately using bootable media, I then write zeroes to the old hard drive. At that point, its ready for XP. You can restore the original MBR if you don't change the partition size. Mandatory if you use a 3rd party boot manager that resides in the MBR region of the hard drive. Dave
Guest Phisherman Posted August 24, 2007 Posted August 24, 2007 Re: Re-partitioning system drive without having to rebuild? On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 19:01:39 -0400, "(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> wrote: >New PC. > >40-gig "C" drive. > >System + Apps < 10 gigs. > >I'd like to re-partition the device so there's 30 gigs for "C" >and 10 or whatever's left over for a "D" drive. > >Seems like last time I tried this by making an image, >re-partitioning, and then trying to restore the image, the image >utility didn't buy it bco the size discrepancy. > >Dunno if re-partitioning it "as-is" is possible, but it sounds >like a bad idea. > > >Anybody have a suggestion? Partition Magic
Guest RMD Posted August 24, 2007 Posted August 24, 2007 Re: Re-partitioning system drive without having to rebuild? On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 19:01:39 -0400, "(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> wrote: >New PC. > >40-gig "C" drive. > >System + Apps < 10 gigs. > >I'd like to re-partition the device so there's 30 gigs for "C" >and 10 or whatever's left over for a "D" drive. > >Seems like last time I tried this by making an image, >re-partitioning, and then trying to restore the image, the image >utility didn't buy it bco the size discrepancy. > >Dunno if re-partitioning it "as-is" is possible, but it sounds >like a bad idea. > > >Anybody have a suggestion? >-- >PeteCresswell Peter, I do it using the boot disc from Acronis True Image. Never had any trouble "auto-magically" changing the C-drive size up or down. If the drive is new there ought not be stuff like sector errors to screw things up. Download the trial version of True Image and create the boot disc. It will cost you nothing to try. Ross
Guest (PeteCresswell) Posted August 24, 2007 Posted August 24, 2007 Re: Re-partitioning system drive without having to rebuild? Per "JS" <@>: >Yes, there should be an option (during the restore process) to restore the >image to a partition that you created on the new drive in advance of the >actual restore. Sounds like what I'm looking for. What product are you using? -- PeteCresswell
Guest JS Posted August 24, 2007 Posted August 24, 2007 Re: Re-partitioning system drive without having to rebuild? Norton Ghost version 10.x JS "(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> wrote in message news:athtc3p5fv0mtdn8undsh56t3sf7nelehd@4ax.com... > Per "JS" <@>: >>Yes, there should be an option (during the restore process) to restore the >>image to a partition that you created on the new drive in advance of the >>actual restore. > > Sounds like what I'm looking for. > > What product are you using? > -- > PeteCresswell
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