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Guest dgalekov
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Anyways here's my problem .. I did a full system backup of a 160 WD SATA disk

total size is "160,014,912 Yes it's WD 160 Gb sata disk ... from newegg I did

a asr backup backup to my 2nd WD SATA also from newegg a I disconnected

disk1 disk3 was added 160,039,680 non WD disk but larger then disk1 .. I

try a ASR restore and microsuck tells me that disk3 is too small ... riddle

me this is win that stupid that can't understand cross brands ???? ... you

know if the world went to linux it would be simplier ... So why can't I

restore to a larger disk ... I think it's a bug ... probably one that would

never be fixed ,, it's winblows and BG doesn't care... besides Vista is out

and the prople speak ... most say it sucks ... and true .. think about for

every version of winblows you need 2x cpu and 2x memory .. which means for

99% of all home owners they need a new PC ... more $$ Hell Fedora you can

run core 3 - 7 on old pentiums and it works trust me I have core 5 running

on a P3 400MHZ and 256M memory and it's fast ... faster then windows

 

back to my problem why is winblows failing ??? the disk is = to or larger

 

dale G

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Guest Patrick Keenan
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Re: So much for signing on to Microsuck with a new legal copy of XP PR

 

"dgalekov" <dgalekov@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:C14ED4BF-1788-4928-A5DF-FF4468950138@microsoft.com...

> Anyways here's my problem .. I did a full system backup of a 160 WD SATA

> disk

> total size is "160,014,912 Yes it's WD 160 Gb sata disk ... from newegg I

> did

> a asr backup backup to my 2nd WD SATA also from newegg a I disconnected

> disk1 disk3 was added 160,039,680 non WD disk but larger then disk1 .. I

> try a ASR restore and microsuck tells me that disk3 is too small ...

> riddle

> me this is win that stupid that can't understand cross brands ???? ... you

> know if the world went to linux it would be simplier ... So why can't I

> restore to a larger disk ... I think it's a bug ... probably one that

> would

> never be fixed ,, it's winblows and BG doesn't care... besides Vista is

> out

> and the prople speak ... most say it sucks ... and true .. think about

> for

> every version of winblows you need 2x cpu and 2x memory .. which means

> for

> 99% of all home owners they need a new PC ... more $$ Hell Fedora you can

> run core 3 - 7 on old pentiums and it works trust me I have core 5

> running

> on a P3 400MHZ and 256M memory and it's fast ... faster then windows

>

> back to my problem why is winblows failing ??? the disk is = to or larger

>

> dale G

 

First, the problem you're describing isn't with Windows. It's with

ntbackup, which isn't exactly a cutting-edge backup utility. There's a

reason 3rd party and imaging apps are sold and are popular, and why it isn't

even included with all XP distributions.

 

So you'll have better results looking at ntbackup issues, than with generic

XP issues.

 

What is the exact error message? Googling *that* will probably give you

good clues.

 

To your specific problem, are you tryng to transfer a working XP install

from one drive to another?

 

If so, a better bet might be to download and install the Acronis TrueImage

Home trial (100 meg, http://www.acronis.com), to the original drive, then clone it

to the new larger drive. You must do this in "manual" mode, as the

"automatic" mode doesn't allow you to set the target partition size.

You'll be done in about an hour.

 

HTH

-pk

Guest Vanguard
Posted

Re: So much for signing on to Microsuck with a new legal copy of XP PR

 

"dgalekov" wrote in message

news:C14ED4BF-1788-4928-A5DF-FF4468950138@microsoft.com...

 

Oh, goodie, a post full of childspeak.

> Anyways here's my problem ..

 

So you usually insult those from whom you ask help? Bet it doesn't

too well.

> ...

 

As if an ellipsis is a replacement for a period character, or for at

least 4th grade level writing.

> from newegg I did a asr backup backup

 

No, you didn't. Newegg is an online vendor selling software and

hardware. They do do your backups.

> from newegg a I disconnected disk1 disk3

 

Newegg has no control over your disks.

> you know if the world went to linux it would be simplier

 

No, just you going to Linux would make it easier for the rest of us.

> never be fixed ,, it's winblows and BG doesn't care... besides Vista

> is out

> and the prople speak ... most say it sucks ... and true

 

Many are just like you. They haven't a clue why they need a new

version of an OS. Oooh, it's new. Big deal.

> every version of winblows you need 2x cpu and 2x memory

 

No, you decided to switch from 9x-based Windows to NT-based. As

you've said, go to some Linux distro. If you don't load its GUI

desktop and remain at the command shell, RAM requirements will be very

low.

> Hell Fedora you can

> run core 3 - 7 on old pentiums and it works trust me I have core 5

> running

> on a P3 400MHZ and 256M memory and it's fast ... faster then

> windows

 

So why are you here? Oh, I see, a troll pretending to ask a question

when, in fact, it's another child proselytizing their personal Linux

choice and doing while stroking themself in public. From your

rambling here, not likely you're an expert on Fedora, either.

 

Since you're trying to use ASR which merely boots from the floppy to

then load a fresh install of Windows to then run NTbackup using the

logical backup files, why not just do it yourself? Do the fresh

install and run NTbackup to do the restore.

 

If Microsoft provided a decent backup program then all the 3rd party

backup software vendors would be screaming that Microsoft was stealing

their market. Every time Microsoft adds minor support for a feature,

someone cries foul. So get used to using 3rd party software.

 

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/818903/

"... installs a simple installation of Windows and automatically

starts a restoration using the backup ..."

Guest Leythos
Posted

Re: So much for signing on to Microsuck with a new legal copy of XP PR

 

In article <C14ED4BF-1788-4928-A5DF-FF4468950138@microsoft.com>,

dgalekov@discussions.microsoft.com says...

> Hell Fedora you can

> run core 3 - 7 on old pentiums and it works trust me I have core 5 running

> on a P3 400MHZ and 256M memory and it's fast ... faster then windows

 

Having used Fedora Core 4-7, I can assure you that with a GUI interface

it's not faster than XP, it's "on-par", but there are many things that

Linux doesn't offer as easily or with as good an interaction/conversion

as with a Windows system. Fedora is my favorite version of Linux, have

it on 4 machines, but I use Windows for interaction with clients, my

exchange servers, my web servers, my ftp servers (using FileZilla Server

as the FTP service), and as my file servers/domain controllers.

 

Your other problems are your own making.

 

--

 

Leythos

- Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.

- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a

drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"

spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)

Guest dgalekov
Posted

Re: So much for signing on to Microsuck with a new legal copy of X

 

Re: So much for signing on to Microsuck with a new legal copy of X

 

 

 

"Patrick Keenan" wrote:

> "dgalekov" <dgalekov@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:C14ED4BF-1788-4928-A5DF-FF4468950138@microsoft.com...

> > Anyways here's my problem .. I did a full system backup of a 160 WD SATA

> > disk

> > total size is "160,014,912 Yes it's WD 160 Gb sata disk ... from newegg I

> > did

> > a asr backup backup to my 2nd WD SATA also from newegg a I disconnected

> > disk1 disk3 was added 160,039,680 non WD disk but larger then disk1 .. I

> > try a ASR restore and microsuck tells me that disk3 is too small ...

> > riddle

> > me this is win that stupid that can't understand cross brands ???? ... you

> > know if the world went to linux it would be simplier ... So why can't I

> > restore to a larger disk ... I think it's a bug ... probably one that

> > would

> > never be fixed ,, it's winblows and BG doesn't care... besides Vista is

> > out

> > and the prople speak ... most say it sucks ... and true .. think about

> > for

> > every version of winblows you need 2x cpu and 2x memory .. which means

> > for

> > 99% of all home owners they need a new PC ... more $$ Hell Fedora you can

> > run core 3 - 7 on old pentiums and it works trust me I have core 5

> > running

> > on a P3 400MHZ and 256M memory and it's fast ... faster then windows

> >

> > back to my problem why is winblows failing ??? the disk is = to or larger

> >

> > dale G

>

> First, the problem you're describing isn't with Windows. It's with

> ntbackup, which isn't exactly a cutting-edge backup utility. There's a

> reason 3rd party and imaging apps are sold and are popular, and why it isn't

> even included with all XP distributions.

>

> So you'll have better results looking at ntbackup issues, than with generic

> XP issues.

>

> What is the exact error message? Googling *that* will probably give you

> good clues.

>

> To your specific problem, are you tryng to transfer a working XP install

> from one drive to another?

>

> If so, a better bet might be to download and install the Acronis TrueImage

> Home trial (100 meg, http://www.acronis.com), to the original drive, then clone it

> to the new larger drive. You must do this in "manual" mode, as the

> "automatic" mode doesn't allow you to set the target partition size.

> You'll be done in about an hour.

>

> HTH

> -pk

>

>

>

 

Actually 1st ... I'm using the backup utility that comes with XP Pro SP2 ...

and it worked before but I was using the exact same size and vendor drives

.... no problems.. And the way the spec was created a SG = WD=TS=FJ ... etc

else raid 5 wouldn't work .. so what's broken in Winsuck XP .. I know the

Seagate disk is larger then the WD ... Both are 160Gb's but one is Sata and

the other is Sata2 .. my BIOS tells me that ... but I check on the net and

it's not a big deal ... they pretty much said most people are confused ...

SATA and SATA2 doesn't mean faster disks ... I know they are wrong on that

because I use to benchmark systems ... not PC's 100K and up systems ... but

it also worked on PC.. so Does WinBlows have a problem with a SATA 160 not a

SATA2 160 ???

Guest dgalekov
Posted

Re: So much for signing on to Microsuck with a new legal copy of X

 

Re: So much for signing on to Microsuck with a new legal copy of X

 

 

 

"Vanguard" wrote:

> "dgalekov" wrote in message

> news:C14ED4BF-1788-4928-A5DF-FF4468950138@microsoft.com...

>

> Oh, goodie, a post full of childspeak.

>

> > Anyways here's my problem ..

>

> So you usually insult those from whom you ask help? Bet it doesn't

> too well.

>

> > ...

>

> As if an ellipsis is a replacement for a period character, or for at

> least 4th grade level writing.

>

> > from newegg I did a asr backup backup

>

> No, you didn't. Newegg is an online vendor selling software and

> hardware. They do do your backups.

>

> > from newegg a I disconnected disk1 disk3

>

> Newegg has no control over your disks.

>

> > you know if the world went to linux it would be simplier

>

> No, just you going to Linux would make it easier for the rest of us.

>

> > never be fixed ,, it's winblows and BG doesn't care... besides Vista

> > is out

> > and the prople speak ... most say it sucks ... and true

>

> Many are just like you. They haven't a clue why they need a new

> version of an OS. Oooh, it's new. Big deal.

>

> > every version of winblows you need 2x cpu and 2x memory

>

> No, you decided to switch from 9x-based Windows to NT-based. As

> you've said, go to some Linux distro. If you don't load its GUI

> desktop and remain at the command shell, RAM requirements will be very

> low.

>

> > Hell Fedora you can

> > run core 3 - 7 on old pentiums and it works trust me I have core 5

> > running

> > on a P3 400MHZ and 256M memory and it's fast ... faster then

> > windows

>

> So why are you here? Oh, I see, a troll pretending to ask a question

> when, in fact, it's another child proselytizing their personal Linux

> choice and doing while stroking themself in public. From your

> rambling here, not likely you're an expert on Fedora, either.

>

> Since you're trying to use ASR which merely boots from the floppy to

> then load a fresh install of Windows to then run NTbackup using the

> logical backup files, why not just do it yourself? Do the fresh

> install and run NTbackup to do the restore.

>

> If Microsoft provided a decent backup program then all the 3rd party

> backup software vendors would be screaming that Microsoft was stealing

> their market. Every time Microsoft adds minor support for a feature,

> someone cries foul. So get used to using 3rd party software.

>

> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/818903/

> "... installs a simple installation of Windows and automatically

> starts a restoration using the backup ..."

>

>

 

Dude is't not a disk problem .. all disks say 160 GB SATA are the same

... else they wouldn't worn in a raid 5 config .. cause they are not exect ..

trust me I know that .. I also know XP backup and ASR restore works on

drives that are twins ... i.e. that means that is drives of the same size

from the same manufacturer... ie ... seagate .. WD ... etc..

 

XP backup can't handle non size disks ....

 

I even teasted that ... with PM I made my disk look smaller and XP Still

looked at it as larger

 

Win does Blows ... and I know both ... you can dd a non intel box all day

long .. sorry I beta tested Win 1.0 back then now that sucked my Unix box

was faster for 15 years

 

Anyways just saying you are not correct

Guest dgalekov
Posted

Re: So much for signing on to Microsuck with a new legal copy of X

 

Re: So much for signing on to Microsuck with a new legal copy of X

 

 

 

"Leythos" wrote:

> In article <C14ED4BF-1788-4928-A5DF-FF4468950138@microsoft.com>,

> dgalekov@discussions.microsoft.com says...

> > Hell Fedora you can

> > run core 3 - 7 on old pentiums and it works trust me I have core 5 running

> > on a P3 400MHZ and 256M memory and it's fast ... faster then windows

>

> Having used Fedora Core 4-7, I can assure you that with a GUI interface

> it's not faster than XP, it's "on-par", but there are many things that

> Linux doesn't offer as easily or with as good an interaction/conversion

> as with a Windows system. Fedora is my favorite version of Linux, have

> it on 4 machines, but I use Windows for interaction with clients, my

> exchange servers, my web servers, my ftp servers (using FileZilla Server

> as the FTP service), and as my file servers/domain controllers.

>

> Your other problems are your own making.

>

> --

>

> Leythos

> - Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.

> - Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a

> drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"

> spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)

>

 

Trust me Unix is always faster on lesser PC's have you ever tried to

install XP on a 400 mhz P3 or even a 900Mhz and does it work???? I have

Fedora core 5 and 6 runnig on on a system that most people wouldn't have

but it works .. it multi tasks and I can compile on it ... it works and ues

it's raster then having any version of Winblowz that can multiTask ... can

you telnet,ssh into a XP or 200 system that small and still be fast ???

Guest Gordon
Posted

Re: So much for signing on to Microsuck with a new legal copy of X

 

Re: So much for signing on to Microsuck with a new legal copy of X

 

"dgalekov" <dgalekov@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:8B85E56E-D8FA-4C5C-B0BF-B9385526B731@microsoft.com...

>

> Trust me Unix is always faster on lesser PC's have you ever tried to

> install XP on a 400 mhz P3 or even a 900Mhz and does it work????

 

Certainly does - my laptop is a Tecra 9000 with 900MHz processor and 1GB

RAM - XP certainly works OK on that...

Guest Patrick Keenan
Posted

Re: So much for signing on to Microsuck with a new legal copy of X

 

Re: So much for signing on to Microsuck with a new legal copy of X

 

"dgalekov" <dgalekov@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:861F7AA5-C3F9-4219-B960-674175991953@microsoft.com...

>

>

> "Patrick Keenan" wrote:

>

>> "dgalekov" <dgalekov@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:C14ED4BF-1788-4928-A5DF-FF4468950138@microsoft.com...

>> > Anyways here's my problem .. I did a full system backup of a 160 WD

>> > SATA

>> > disk

>> > total size is "160,014,912 Yes it's WD 160 Gb sata disk ... from newegg

>> > I

>> > did

>> > a asr backup backup to my 2nd WD SATA also from newegg a I disconnected

>> > disk1 disk3 was added 160,039,680 non WD disk but larger then disk1

>> > .. I

>> > try a ASR restore and microsuck tells me that disk3 is too small ...

>> > riddle

>> > me this is win that stupid that can't understand cross brands ???? ...

>> > you

>> > know if the world went to linux it would be simplier ... So why can't I

>> > restore to a larger disk ... I think it's a bug ... probably one that

>> > would

>> > never be fixed ,, it's winblows and BG doesn't care... besides Vista is

>> > out

>> > and the prople speak ... most say it sucks ... and true .. think about

>> > for

>> > every version of winblows you need 2x cpu and 2x memory .. which means

>> > for

>> > 99% of all home owners they need a new PC ... more $$ Hell Fedora you

>> > can

>> > run core 3 - 7 on old pentiums and it works trust me I have core 5

>> > running

>> > on a P3 400MHZ and 256M memory and it's fast ... faster then windows

>> >

>> > back to my problem why is winblows failing ??? the disk is = to or

>> > larger

>> >

>> > dale G

>>

>> First, the problem you're describing isn't with Windows. It's with

>> ntbackup, which isn't exactly a cutting-edge backup utility. There's a

>> reason 3rd party and imaging apps are sold and are popular, and why it

>> isn't

>> even included with all XP distributions.

>>

>> So you'll have better results looking at ntbackup issues, than with

>> generic

>> XP issues.

>>

>> What is the exact error message? Googling *that* will probably give you

>> good clues.

>>

>> To your specific problem, are you tryng to transfer a working XP install

>> from one drive to another?

>>

>> If so, a better bet might be to download and install the Acronis

>> TrueImage

>> Home trial (100 meg, http://www.acronis.com), to the original drive, then clone

>> it

>> to the new larger drive. You must do this in "manual" mode, as the

>> "automatic" mode doesn't allow you to set the target partition size.

>> You'll be done in about an hour.

>>

>> HTH

>> -pk

>>

>>

>>

>

> Actually 1st ... I'm using the backup utility that comes with XP Pro SP2

> ...

 

Yes, that's ntbackup, which isn't actually part of Windows XP. It doesn't

even come with some versions of XP.

 

> and it worked before but I was using the exact same size and vendor

> drives

> ... no problems..

 

Well then, work around the ntbbackup problem. Do a temporary restore to a

similar drive, then use an imaging application.

> And the way the spec was created a SG = WD=TS=FJ ... etc

> else raid 5 wouldn't work .. so what's broken in Winsuck XP .. I know the

> Seagate disk is larger then the WD ... Both are 160Gb's but one is Sata

> and

> the other is Sata2 .. my BIOS tells me that ... but I check on the net

> and

> it's not a big deal ... they pretty much said most people are confused

> ...

> SATA and SATA2 doesn't mean faster disks ... I know they are wrong on

> that

> because I use to benchmark systems ... not PC's 100K and up systems ...

> but

> it also worked on PC.. so Does WinBlows have a problem with a SATA 160

> not a

> SATA2 160 ???

 

The problem is with ntbackup, not with Windows.

 

It does help if you dig in the right place.

 

HTH

-pk

Guest Vanguard
Posted

Re: So much for signing on to Microsuck with a new legal copy of X

 

Re: So much for signing on to Microsuck with a new legal copy of X

 

"dgalekov" wrote in message

news:8B85E56E-D8FA-4C5C-B0BF-B9385526B731@microsoft.com...

>

> Trust me Unix is always faster on lesser PC's have you ever tried

> to

> install XP on a 400 mhz P3 or even a 900Mhz and does it work????

 

Yep, even works on my really old P3 800Mhz Slot2. Probably even works

with the old P3 550MHz Slot2 that got replaced.

 

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/evaluation/sysreqs.mspx


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