Guest matte Posted August 24, 2007 Posted August 24, 2007 Hey I have a short question: Shouldn´t you be able to use automatic updates with Microsoft update when you are logged in as an ordinary user ? (Not admin) When I´m logged in as a user and manually tries to use Microsoft update it says I need admin rights. Does that also include automatic updates, because it seems that I haven´t got any updates even though I´ve been using the machine online for quite som time, and have had Internet connection Seems strange not be be able to use automatic updates when you use the machine as an ordinary user. If so, you always have to log in as an admin to get the latest patches, and that´s no good solution in my case, since I don´t want my users to have admin rights on their machines.
Guest Byte Posted August 24, 2007 Posted August 24, 2007 RE: Microsoft update with User rights ? Updates are usually changes to system files. Only the Administrator has rights to system files unless your system allows Users with those rights which would be very foolish, especially if children are involved. -- XP - WNP Today is the first day of the rest of your life. "matte" wrote: > Hey > I have a short question: > Shouldn´t you be able to use automatic updates with Microsoft update when > you are logged in as an ordinary user ? (Not admin) > > When I´m logged in as a user and manually tries to use Microsoft update it > says I need admin rights. Does that also include automatic updates, because > it seems that I haven´t got any updates even though I´ve been using the > machine online for quite som time, and have had Internet connection > > Seems strange not be be able to use automatic updates when you use the > machine as an ordinary user. If so, you always have to log in as an admin to > get the latest patches, and that´s no good solution in my case, since I don´t > want my users to have admin rights on their machines.
Guest Vanguard Posted August 24, 2007 Posted August 24, 2007 Re: Microsoft update with User rights ? "matte" wrote in message news:2821F7A6-911E-4F57-A65D-9E80C1B7D84D@microsoft.com... > Shouldn´t you be able to use automatic updates with Microsoft > update when > you are logged in as an ordinary user ? (Not admin) If any user could change the state of the operating system, what would be the point of admin accounts? You aren't using Windows 9x anymore that had no security.
Guest matte Posted August 27, 2007 Posted August 27, 2007 Re: Microsoft update with User rights ? One should think that Security Updates from Microsoft should be able to be installed with the proper rights anyway. (Should somehow be run with another account than the logged in user. But I suppose that there aren´t any way to solve that) The choice you have now is either to skip security updates (Which I think no one recommends) or to make all users admins which would meen that they could do anything with the machine, which is another security problem. Doesn´t anyone have any wonders about this ? If you haven´t got a central administration for application-installations (That can be run with system rights) how do you solve it ? "Vanguard" wrote: > "matte" wrote in message > news:2821F7A6-911E-4F57-A65D-9E80C1B7D84D@microsoft.com... > > Shouldn´t you be able to use automatic updates with Microsoft > > update when > > you are logged in as an ordinary user ? (Not admin) > > > If any user could change the state of the operating system, what would > be the point of admin accounts? You aren't using Windows 9x anymore > that had no security. > >
Guest Vanguard Posted August 27, 2007 Posted August 27, 2007 Re: Microsoft update with User rights ? "matte" wrote in message news:FD6E7D84-BA14-465E-B3E4-2CFED0DC9F19@microsoft.com... > > "Vanguard" wrote: > >> "matte" wrote ... >>> >>> Shouldn´t you be able to use automatic updates with Microsoft >>> update when >>> you are logged in as an ordinary user ? (Not admin) >> >> If any user could change the state of the operating system, what >> would >> be the point of admin accounts? You aren't using Windows 9x >> anymore >> that had no security. > > One should think that Security Updates from Microsoft should be able > to be > installed with the proper rights anyway. (Should somehow be run with > another > account than the logged in user. But I suppose that there aren´t > any way to > solve that) > > The choice you have now is either to skip security updates (Which I > think no > one recommends) or to make all users admins which would meen that > they could > do anything with the machine, which is another security problem. > > Doesn´t anyone have any wonders about this ? > > If you haven´t got a central administration for > application-installations > (That can be run with system rights) how do you solve it ? http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/wsus/bb466199.aspx In a corporate environment, they run a SUS host that pushes out the updates that the *corporation* (i.e., their IT department) wants you to have. The employees are not local admins of the workstations. Even if they are granted to be domain admins, they are limited to just the one workstation that is assigned to them. In a home environment, YOU are the admin so it is up to you to do the updates. That means logging on under the local Administrator account or another local admin-level account and doing the updates. All updates change behavior. They also can themselves introduce problems. It is still code. If the code you had before was broken then why not the updates, too? Some updates are not desired. YOU are the admin and supposed to be reading up on each update's details to determine if they apply to you. Just because you choose to blindly install updates, even critical ones, doesn't absolve you of the respsonsibility of being your own admin.
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