Guest RJ43 Posted August 26, 2007 Posted August 26, 2007 I currently have an 7 year old Windows 2000 pro system that I use with Photoshop CS. Eventually I will upgrade to Photoshop CS3 which will not run on Win2000. Because of the limited ram capabilities and the age, Vista is not an option? How long will Microsoft XP Pro upgrade be available for purchase?
Guest Patrick Keenan Posted August 26, 2007 Posted August 26, 2007 Re: Windows XP availability "RJ43" <RJ@att.com> wrote in message news:46D1BA3B.8050201@att.com... >I currently have an 7 year old Windows 2000 pro system > that I use with Photoshop CS. Eventually I will upgrade > to Photoshop CS3 which will not run on Win2000. Because > of the limited ram capabilities and the age, Vista is > not an option? > > How long will Microsoft XP Pro upgrade be available for > purchase? So the system is older, with limited RAM and disk space, and a slower processor. And you're considering upgrading image manipulation software, and an OS upgrade to make it work. That OS upgrade can be a couple of hundred dollars, the system won't really run any better or faster. Why not just consider a whole new system, with much more RAM, drive space, and faster speeds? This will come with an OS license - if you shop carefully, the OS can be XP Pro on a new system. Prices on systems are not as high as they were seven years ago. I would suggest that you do at least investigate this as a viable option. HTH -pk
Guest RJ43 Posted August 26, 2007 Posted August 26, 2007 Re: Windows XP availability Patrick Keenan wrote: > "RJ43" <RJ@att.com> wrote in message news:46D1BA3B.8050201@att.com... >> I currently have an 7 year old Windows 2000 pro system >> that I use with Photoshop CS. Eventually I will upgrade >> to Photoshop CS3 which will not run on Win2000. Because >> of the limited ram capabilities and the age, Vista is >> not an option? >> >> How long will Microsoft XP Pro upgrade be available for >> purchase? > > So the system is older, with limited RAM and disk space, and a slower > processor. And you're considering upgrading image manipulation software, > and an OS upgrade to make it work. That OS upgrade can be a couple of > hundred dollars, the system won't really run any better or faster. > > Why not just consider a whole new system, with much more RAM, drive space, > and faster speeds? This will come with an OS license - if you shop > carefully, the OS can be XP Pro on a new system. > > Prices on systems are not as high as they were seven years ago. > > I would suggest that you do at least investigate this as a viable option. I am considering a new system. But if I do I want it to last for a while. I spent $2,300 system on a new laptop earlier this year. It's a question of spending at least $1,500 or $200 and running slow. So I'm trying to gather information and then decide which direction I want to go.
Guest Patrick Keenan Posted August 26, 2007 Posted August 26, 2007 Re: Windows XP availability "RJ43" <RJ@att.com> wrote in message news:46D1C8F6.9040901@att.com... > Patrick Keenan wrote: >> "RJ43" <RJ@att.com> wrote in message news:46D1BA3B.8050201@att.com... >>> I currently have an 7 year old Windows 2000 pro system >>> that I use with Photoshop CS. Eventually I will upgrade >>> to Photoshop CS3 which will not run on Win2000. Because >>> of the limited ram capabilities and the age, Vista is >>> not an option? >>> >>> How long will Microsoft XP Pro upgrade be available for >>> purchase? >> >> So the system is older, with limited RAM and disk space, and a slower >> processor. And you're considering upgrading image manipulation >> software, and an OS upgrade to make it work. That OS upgrade can be a >> couple of hundred dollars, the system won't really run any better or >> faster. >> >> Why not just consider a whole new system, with much more RAM, drive >> space, and faster speeds? This will come with an OS license - if you >> shop carefully, the OS can be XP Pro on a new system. >> >> Prices on systems are not as high as they were seven years ago. >> >> I would suggest that you do at least investigate this as a viable option. > > I am considering a new system. But if I do I want it to last for > a while. I spent $2,300 system on a new laptop earlier this year. > It's a question of spending at least $1,500 or possibly rather less. You already have other hardware, such as a monitor, keyboard, etc. Looking at, just to pick a name, the HP site, there's a Vista system, with 2 gig ram and a 2gHz dual core processor, for US$679. No monitor. > or $200 and > running slow. Don't discount the possibilites of used systems. I recently purchased a number of 2.6 gHz P4 systems, 512 meg ram (expandable to 2 gig) , no monitor or keyboard, for around CDN$230. And they came *with* valid XP Pro licenses and recovery disks. All of them passed Windows Validation with no problems at all. I bought them from a local shop that had a skid of them, but now see lots of them on eBay and such places. So, you could very possibly get a faster system with more RAM *and* a legitimate XP license for less than the cost of a new XP license, even an upgrade license. Just be sure that they do come with some sort of reinstall media that isn't the hard disk. If you don't get some sort of reinstall CD, don't accept the system. The COA sticker is not nearly enough. Then, reconfigure your W2K system to be a backup controller and print server. Set it up, disconnect the monitor. Control it remotely. To provide an example for informational purposes, have a look here, at a number of systems that are in the price range of an XP upgrade license: http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?from=R40&_trksid=m37&satitle=D530&category0= Note that some of them list the OS as preinstalled, but don't mention that critically necessary reinstall CD. HTH -pk > > So I'm trying to gather information and then decide which > direction I want to go.
Guest RJ43 Posted August 26, 2007 Posted August 26, 2007 Re: Windows XP availability Patrick Keenan wrote: > Note that some of them list the OS as preinstalled, but don't mention that > critically necessary reinstall CD. > > > HTH Patrick, I know you're trying to help, but I just would like to know if there's a known/estimated date when Win XP will no longer be for sale.
Guest baynole Posted August 26, 2007 Posted August 26, 2007 Re: Windows XP availability On Aug 26, 5:10 pm, RJ43 <R...@att.com> wrote: > Patrick Keenan wrote: > > Note that some of them list the OS as preinstalled, but don't mention that > > critically necessary reinstall CD. > > > HTH > > Patrick, I know you're trying to help, but I just would > like to know if there's a known/estimated date when > Win XP will no longer be for sale. I have read that Microsoft will no longer supply XP to mfr.'s at the start of 2008. Hope this is of some use.
Guest HeyBub Posted August 26, 2007 Posted August 26, 2007 Re: Windows XP availability RJ43 wrote: > Patrick Keenan wrote: >> "RJ43" <RJ@att.com> wrote in message news:46D1BA3B.8050201@att.com... >>> I currently have an 7 year old Windows 2000 pro system >>> that I use with Photoshop CS. Eventually I will upgrade >>> to Photoshop CS3 which will not run on Win2000. Because >>> of the limited ram capabilities and the age, Vista is >>> not an option? >>> >>> How long will Microsoft XP Pro upgrade be available for >>> purchase? >> >> So the system is older, with limited RAM and disk space, and a slower >> processor. And you're considering upgrading image manipulation >> software, and an OS upgrade to make it work. That OS upgrade can >> be a couple of hundred dollars, the system won't really run any >> better or faster. Why not just consider a whole new system, with much >> more RAM, drive >> space, and faster speeds? This will come with an OS license - if >> you shop carefully, the OS can be XP Pro on a new system. >> >> Prices on systems are not as high as they were seven years ago. >> >> I would suggest that you do at least investigate this as a viable >> option. > > I am considering a new system. But if I do I want it to last for > a while. I spent $2,300 system on a new laptop earlier this year. > It's a question of spending at least $1,500 or $200 and > running slow. > > So I'm trying to gather information and then decide which > direction I want to go. How about a HP Slimline, AMD Athlon 4000 64-bit CPU (2.6MHz), 1GB RAM, 320G hard drive, blah-blah-blah, with Vista Home Premium? For less than $450? http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=5982773#Specifications You really should keep up. I got my last computer as a prize in the bottom of a CrackerJack box.
Guest RJ43 Posted August 27, 2007 Posted August 27, 2007 Re: Windows XP availability baynole wrote: > On Aug 26, 5:10 pm, RJ43 <R...@att.com> wrote: >> Patrick Keenan wrote: >>> Note that some of them list the OS as preinstalled, but don't mention that >>> critically necessary reinstall CD. >>> HTH >> Patrick, I know you're trying to help, but I just would >> like to know if there's a known/estimated date when >> Win XP will no longer be for sale. > > I have read that Microsoft will no longer supply XP to mfr.'s at the > start of 2008. > Hope this is of some use. > That gives me an idea... Thanks...
Guest baynole Posted August 29, 2007 Posted August 29, 2007 Re: Windows XP availability On Aug 26, 5:20 pm, baynole <bayn...@gmail.com> wrote: > I have read that Microsoft will no longer supply XP to mfr.'s at the > start of 2008. > Hope this is of some use. OK, just got the brand-new 'PC Magazine.' It says XP will be available for sale til Jan. 2009.
Guest Shenan Stanley Posted August 29, 2007 Posted August 29, 2007 Re: Windows XP availability RJ43 wrote: > I currently have an 7 year old Windows 2000 pro system > that I use with Photoshop CS. Eventually I will upgrade > to Photoshop CS3 which will not run on Win2000. Because > of the limited ram capabilities and the age, Vista is > not an option? > > How long will Microsoft XP Pro upgrade be available for > purchase? <snipped> See entire conversation here: http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/browse_frm/thread/93c69d29f399441f/c9e6526e74ee85f9?lnk=st&q=&rnum=4#c9e6526e74ee85f9 RJ43 wrote: > Patrick, I know you're trying to help, but I just would > like to know if there's a known/estimated date when > Win XP will no longer be for sale. All you have to do is *forget* when XP will no longer be available - purchase it now. Then you have it and the license just sitting and waiting and no matter what (unless Microsoft decides all copies of Windows XP will cease to activate again) - you are done. However - your question could have been answered by a simple Google Search. http://news.com.com/2100-1016_3-6161250.html Essentially - there is no hard/fast date that has been reported - but it is likely that within 24 months of Vista's initial release (2 years from January 2007) it will be VERY difficult to locate a brand-new copy of Windows XP and almost impossible (other than buying from an independent computer store and/ore assembling a system yourself) to get a copy *with* a new computer. Very difficult does not mean impossible. I bet you can still find Windows 95 for sale someplace - perhaps even 'sealed'. If you are buying a new computer - I wouldn't get an 'upgrade' version anyway. Even if you have software that qualifies - you'd be better off getting a full retail version (non-oem please) and not having to worry about keeping an old copy of Windows 9x/ME/2000 lying around for clean installs. Less to keep up with. I saw elsewhere in the thread that you recently purchase an inexpensive laptop. You can do the same with a desktop and likely run circles around that seven year old machine. Dual/quad core intels are practically the same price. Video cards that do dual monitors are the standard and quad+ are not too expensive. Memory has stayed fairly inexpensive - and for someone who uses photoshop - you could likely benefit from a couple of GB of memory - or if you go the 64-bit route - 4+GB of memory. To be completely honest - you probably would be pretty well off considering a Macintosh and getting the next release OS X (sometime after September this year) and dual booting with your retail copy of Windows XP. You may find you like the Adobe Products better on a macintosh OS than Windows. And if you didn't - you could choose to boot into Windows XP the majority of the time and just have the Windows versions. However - in the end, the hardware is the same. -- Shenan Stanley MS-MVP -- How To Ask Questions The Smart Way http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
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