Guest pc nerd Posted August 28, 2007 Posted August 28, 2007 I read somewhere that there might be a service pack 3 for XP. Is that true or is it a rumor? I have a related question. I want to reinstall XP because it's acting kind of weird. Is it possible to save the updates in a folder so they can be reinstalled later? I know that it's possible to uninstall them.
Guest Uncle Grumpy Posted August 28, 2007 Posted August 28, 2007 Re: Service Pack 3 for XP pc nerd <pc nerd@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >I read somewhere that there might be a service pack 3 for XP. Is that true or >is it a rumor? True. Next year.
Guest Shenan Stanley Posted August 28, 2007 Posted August 28, 2007 Re: Service Pack 3 for XP pc nerd wrote: > I read somewhere that there might be a service pack 3 for XP. Is > that true or is it a rumor? > > I have a related question. I want to reinstall XP because it's > acting kind of weird. Is it possible to save the updates in a > folder so they can be reinstalled later? I know that it's possible > to uninstall them. Microsoft does have mentions of SP3 for Windows XP on their web pages. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/lifecycle/servicepacks.mspx "SP3 for Windows XP _____ edition is currently planned for 1H CY2008. This date is preliminary." You can download the updates and save them for later. You can even slipstream/integrate most of them straight into your installation CD/media to make an installation and post-installation work of Windows XP faster. Each month Microsoft releases that month's updates in ISO format: January 2006-current http://support.microsoft.com/kb/913086 If you are more trusting: AutoPatcher http://www.autopatcher.com/ Windows Updates Downloader http://wud.jcarle.com/ You can download each update manually - based off the KB Article number, etc. That way you can back it up/burn a CD of them in case you need them or use them to keep a slipstream/integrated (updated) Windows XP CD. How to use the Windows Update Catalog http://support.microsoft.com/kb/323166 (In order to use the Windows Update Catalog, you must use IE to get the patches..) Windows Update Catalog http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/catalog/en/default.asp (In order to use the Windows Update Catalog, you must use IE to get the patches..) Creating an Integrated Installation http://snipurl.com/el43 Integrate software updates into your Windows installation source files http://support.microsoft.com/kb/828930 Really customize your CD.. http://unattended.msfn.org/ Produce an up-to-date XP Distribution CD http://xpcreate.com/ AutoStreamer http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=223562 You can see the critical (security and other) patches released for a given month using the following: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/ms##-***.mspx At the end of this line you see "ms##-***.mspx" .. If you simply replace ## with the two-digit year and the *** with the three character month abbreviation, you will see the list of "critical" and "important" patches for that month (since it only happens once a month usually, if you check by the second Tuesday (wait until afternoon) of each month - you should be fine) - note that future months will not work. As an example... December 2004's patches.. http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/ms04-dec.mspx March 2005's patches.. None released.. so that one will fail... May 2006's patches.. http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/ms06-may.mspx January 2007's patches.. http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/ms07-jan.mspx Once you get on the page with each month's list of patches.. You can go to the related KB articles and grab the appropriate files from there. Need Microsoft Office updates? http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/downloads/maincatalog.aspx Here's a list of updates from SP2 until about April 2007 to get you started... Direct Download of Service Pack 2 (SP2) for Windows XP http://snipurl.com/8bqy Critical Updates ---------------------- Released: -- [ Web Page Address ] -- Description: 9/14/2004 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/885626 ] -- Critical Update for Windows XP 11/22/2004 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/887742 ] -- Update for Windows XP 12/13/2004 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/885835 ] -- Security Update for Windows XP 12/13/2004 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/885836 ] -- Security Update for Windows XP 12/13/2004 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/886185 ] -- Critical Update for Windows XP 12/13/2004 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/873339 ] -- Security Update for Windows XP 2/7/2005 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/891781 ] -- Security Update for Windows XP 2/7/2005 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/888302 ] -- Security Update for Windows XP 2/7/2005 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/887472 ] -- Security Update for Windows Messenger 4/11/2005 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/890859 ] -- Security Update for Windows XP 5/18/2005 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/894391 ] -- Update for Windows XP 5/24/2005 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/896344 ] -- Update for Windows XP 6/13/2005 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/896358 ] -- Security Update for Microsoft Windows XP 6/13/2005 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/896428 ] -- Security Update for Windows XP 6/24/2005 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/900930 ] -- Update for Windows XP 6/27/2005 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/898461 ] -- Update for Windows XP 7/11/2005 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/901214 ] -- Security Update for Windows XP 8/8/2005 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/896423 ] -- Security Update for Windows XP 8/8/2005 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/899587 ] -- Security Update for Windows XP 8/8/2005 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/899591 ] -- Security Update for Windows XP 8/8/2005 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/893756 ] -- Security Update for Windows XP 10/10/2005 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/901017 ] -- Security Update for Windows XP 10/10/2005 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/902400 ] -- Security Update for Windows XP 10/10/2005 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/905749 ] -- Security Update for Windows XP 10/10/2005 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/905414 ] -- Security Update for Windows XP 10/10/2005 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/900725 ] -- Security Update for Windows XP 12/12/2005 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/910437 ] -- Update for Windows XP 12/13/2005 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/904706 ] -- Security Update for Windows XP 1/9/2006 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/908519 ] -- Security Update for Windows XP 2/13/2006 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/911927 ] -- Security Update for Windows XP 4/10/2006 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/911562 ] -- Security Update for Windows XP 4/18/2006 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/904942 ] -- Update for Windows XP 4/25/2006 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/900485 ] -- Update for Windows XP 4/25/2006 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/908531 ] -- Security Update for Windows XP 5/9/2006 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/913580 ] -- Security Update for Windows XP 6/6/2006 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/916595 ] -- Update for Windows XP 6/8/2006 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/918439 ] -- Vulnerability in ART Image Rendering Could Allow Remote Code Execution in Internet Explorer for Windows XP SP2 6/12/2006 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/914389 ] -- Security Update for Windows XP 6/12/2006 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/917953 ] -- Security Update for Windows XP 6/13/2006 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/917344 ] -- JScript 5.6 Security Update for Windows XP SP1 and SP2 6/27/2006 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/911280 ] -- Security Update for Windows XP 7/10/2006 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/917159 ] -- Security Update for Windows XP 7/10/2006 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/914388 ] -- Security Update for Windows XP 8/7/2006 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/917422 ] -- Security Update for Windows XP 8/7/2006 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/920670 ] -- Security Update for Windows XP 8/7/2006 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/922616 ] -- Security Update for Windows XP 8/7/2006 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/920683 ] -- Security Update for Windows XP 8/17/2006 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/920872 ] -- Update for Windows XP 9/11/2006 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/920685 ] -- Security Update for Windows XP 9/11/2006 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/922582 ] -- Update for Windows XP 9/11/2006 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/919007 ] -- Security Update for Windows XP 10/9/2006 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/922819 ] -- Security Update for Windows XP 10/9/2006 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/924496 ] -- Security Update for Windows XP 10/9/2006 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923414 ] -- Security Update for Windows XP 10/9/2006 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923191 ] -- Security Update for Windows XP 11/14/2006 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/920213 ] -- Vulnerability in Microsoft Agent could allow remote code execution 11/14/2006 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923789 ] -- Vulnerabilities in Macromedia Flash Player from Adobe could allow remote code execution 11/14/2006 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/924270 ] -- Vulnerability in Workstation Service could allow remote code execution 11/14/2006 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928088 ] -- Vulnerability in Microsoft XML Core Services could allow remote code execution 11/14/2006 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923980 ] -- Vulnerability in the Client Service could allow remote code execution 12/12/2006 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/926247 ] -- Vulnerability in Simple Network Management Protocol (SNMP) could allow remote code execution 12/12/2006 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/926255 ] -- Vulnerability in Windows could allow elevation of privilege 12/12/2006 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923694 ] -- Cumulative security update for Outlook Express 1/9/2007 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929969 ] -- Vulnerability in Vector Markup Language Could Allow Remote Code Execution * If you have installed IE7, also install the IE7 version of this patch! 2/13/2007 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928255 ] -- Vulnerability in Windows Shell Could Allow Elevation of Privilege 2/13/2007 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927802 ] -- Vulnerability in Windows Image Acquisition Service Could Allow Elevation of Privilege 2/13/2007 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928843 ] -- Vulnerability in HTML Help ActiveX Control Could Allow Remote Code Execution 2/13/2007 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927779 ] -- Vulnerability in Microsoft Data Access Components Could Allow Remote Code Execution 2/13/2007 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/926436 ] -- Vulnerability in Microsoft OLE Dialog Could Allow Remote Code Execution 2/13/2007 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/924667 ] -- Vulnerability in Microsoft MFC Could Allow Remote Code Execution 2/13/2007 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/918118 ] -- Vulnerability in Microsoft RichEdit Could Allow Remote Code Execution 2/13/2007 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928090 ] -- Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer * If you have IE7, obtain that version of this update. 4/3/2007 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/925902 ] -- Vulnerabilities in GDI Could Allow Remote Code Execution 4/10/2007 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/931261 ] -- Vulnerability in Universal Plug and Play Could Allow Remote Code Execution 4/10/2007 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/932168 ] -- Vulnerability in Microsoft Agent Could Allow Remote Code Execution 4/10/2007 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/930178 ] -- Vulnerabilities in CSRSS Could Allow Remote Code Execution 4/10/2007 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/931784 ] -- Vulnerability in Windows Kernel Could Allow Elevation of Privilege Media Player: ------------------- Released: -- [ Web Page Address: ] -- Description: 9/2/2004 -- [ http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=30984 ] -- Windows Media Player 10 11/7/2005 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/902344 ] -- Update for WMDRM-enabled Media Players 2/13/2006 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/911564 ] -- Security Update for Windows Media Player Plug-in 4/11/2006 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/911565 ] -- Security Update for Windows Media Player 10 for Windows XP 6/12/2006 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/917734 ] -- Security Update for Windows Media Player 10 for Windows XP 12/12/2006 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923689 ] -- Vulnerability in Windows Media Format Could Allow Remote Code Execution ..NET Framework: ------------------------ Released: -- [ Web Page Address: ] -- Description: 3/30/2004 -- [ http://snipurl.com/10bde ] -- Microsoft .NET Framework Version 1.1 Redistributable Package 8/30/2004 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/885055 ] -- Microsoft .NET Framework 1.1 Service Pack 1 2/8/2005 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/887219 ] -- ASP.NET Security Update for Microsoft NET Framework 1.1 Service Pack 1 3/22/2006 -- [ http://snipurl.com/10bdv ] -- Microsoft .NET Framework Version 2.0 Redistributable Package (x86) 7/11/2006 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/917283 ] -- NDP 2.0 ASP.Net Security Update 10/10/2006 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/922770 ] -- NET Framework 2.0 SYSTEM.WEB.DLL Security Update Other Updates: --------------------- Released: -- [ Web Page Address: ] -- Description: 9/14/2004 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/873374 ] -- Microsoft GDI+ Detection Tool 9/2/2005 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/893803 ] -- Windows Installer 3.1 Redistributable (v2) 10/14/2005 -- [ http://snipurl.com/10bex ] -- Windows Media Connect 2.0 11/29/2005 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/909520 ] -- Microsoft Base Smart Card Cryptographic Service Provider Package: x86 10/10/2006 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/890830 ] -- Microsoft® Windows® Malicious Software Removal Tool - November 2006 Purely OPTIONAL: ---------------------- 10/18/2006 -- [ http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/downloads/ ] -- Internet Explorer 7.0 10/30/2006 -- [ http://snipurl.com/167ea ] -- Media Player 11 12/8/2006 -- [ http://support.microsoft.com/kb/925876 ] -- Remote Desktop Connection 6.0 client -- Shenan Stanley MS-MVP -- How To Ask Questions The Smart Way http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
Guest Tony Meloche Posted August 28, 2007 Posted August 28, 2007 Re: Service Pack 3 for XP Uncle Grumpy wrote: > pc nerd <pc nerd@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > >> I read somewhere that there might be a service pack 3 for XP. Is that true or >> is it a rumor? > > True. > > Next year. Yes. They wont be anymore definitive right now than "sometime in 2008". The SP3 size will be huge, but if you are set up to automatically receive Windows Updates, and have been all along, those are the lion's share of what will be in SP3, so it would be much smaller in your case. I'm almost certain I have read that Microsoft has also said it will be the last major SP upgrade for XP. They will continue to support XP until January (IIRC) of 2014, then it goes into the dustbin of history as far as support from the manufacturer. Tony ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =----
Guest SAM-R Posted August 28, 2007 Posted August 28, 2007 Re: Service Pack 3 for XP XP SP3 is currently in Beta Testing. "pc nerd" <pc nerd@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:91958EF9-5ABE-4D97-BBE5-3D0A9383647D@microsoft.com... >I read somewhere that there might be a service pack 3 for XP. Is that true >or > is it a rumor? > > I have a related question. I want to reinstall XP because it's acting kind > of weird. Is it possible to save the updates in a folder so they can be > reinstalled later? I know that it's possible to uninstall them.
Guest baynole Posted August 28, 2007 Posted August 28, 2007 Re: Service Pack 3 for XP On Aug 27, 11:55 pm, Tony Meloche <bomba...@i2k.com> wrote: > I'm almost certain I have read that Microsoft has also said it will > be the last major SP upgrade for XP. They will continue to support XP > until January (IIRC) of 2014, then it goes into the dustbin of history > as far as support from the manufacturer. > > Tony > Yeah, but at least Vista will be long-gone by then too.
Guest Ken Blake Posted August 28, 2007 Posted August 28, 2007 Re: Service Pack 3 for XP "pc nerd" <pc nerd@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:91958EF9-5ABE-4D97-BBE5-3D0A9383647D@microsoft.com... >I read somewhere that there might be a service pack 3 for XP. Is that true >or > is it a rumor? It does not yet exist, but its expected (not guaranteed) in the first half of next year. > I have a related question. I want to reinstall XP because it's acting kind > of weird. Ugh! I am very much against reinstalling as a substitute for troubleshooting. In my view, it's usually a mistake. With a modicum of care, it should never be necessary to reinstall Windows (XP or any other version). I've run Windows 3.0, 3.1, WFWG 3.11, Windows 95, Windows 98, Windows 2000, and Windows XP, each for the period of time before the next version came out, and each on two machines here. I never reinstalled any of them, and I have never had anything more than an occasional minor problem. It's my belief that this mistaken notion stems from the technical support people at many of the larger OEMs. Their solution to almost any problem they don't quickly know the answer to is "reformat and reinstall." That's the perfect solution for them. It gets you off the phone quickly, it almost always works, and it doesn't require them to do any real troubleshooting (a skill that most of them obviously don't possess in any great degree). But it leaves you with all the work and all the problems. You have to restore all your data backups, you have to reinstall all your programs, you have to reinstall all the Windows and application updates,you have to locate and install all the needed drivers for your system, you have to recustomize Windows and all your apps to work the way you're comfortable with. Besides all those things being time-consuming and troublesome, you may have trouble with some of them: can you find all your application CDs? Can you find all the needed installation codes? Do you have data backups to restore? Do you even remember all the customizations and tweaks you may have installed to make everything work the way you like? Occasionally there are problems that are so difficult to solve that Windows should be reinstalled cleanly. But they are few and far between; reinstallation should not be a substitute for troubleshooting; it should be a last resort, to be done only after all other attempts at troubleshooting by a qualified person have failed. If you have problems, post them here; it's likely that someone can help you and a reinstallation won't be required. Besides all the above, it's probably "acting kind of weird" because of something you've done improperly. If you simply reinstall without finding out what the problem was, you will probably repeat the same behavior, and quickly find yourself back where you started. -- Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User Please reply to the newsgroup
Guest MikeB Posted August 28, 2007 Posted August 28, 2007 Re: Service Pack 3 for XP On Aug 27, 10:14 pm, "Shenan Stanley" <newshel...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Creating an Integrated Installation > http://snipurl.com/el43 > This link is bad
Guest MikeB Posted August 28, 2007 Posted August 28, 2007 Re: Service Pack 3 for XP On Aug 28, 9:39 am, "Ken Blake" <kbl...@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote: > > Occasionally there are problems that are so difficult to solve that Windows > should be reinstalled cleanly. But they are few and far between; > reinstallation should not be a substitute for troubleshooting; it should be > a last resort, to be done only after all other attempts at troubleshooting > by a qualified person have failed. > > If you have problems, post them here; it's likely that someone can help you > and a reinstallation won't be required. > It's a honorable sentiment, but finding good advice/help is hard and to acquire all the required skills is not that simple. For many people, including myself, it eventually becomes easier to reinstall than to try and figure out the complex interactions between many pieces of software. Besides, it gets rid of many installed pieces of software and stuff that starts at every boot that one doesn't need. In the end, I'd say htat to clean up a 5-year old install or to reinstall it cleanly and install only the required software again is much of a wash. Of course, it goes without saying that the user data is easily locatable and can be backed up/restored.
Guest Shenan Stanley Posted August 28, 2007 Posted August 28, 2007 Re: Service Pack 3 for XP MikeB wrote: > On Aug 27, 10:14 pm, "Shenan Stanley" <newshel...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> Creating an Integrated Installation >> http://snipurl.com/el43 >> > > This link is bad Thanks - I'll remove it. It was one of the least important ones anyway - put there simply because it was a link to a Microsoft page. The best resource, by far, in my opinion for creating an integrated Windows XP installation CD.... http://unattended.msfn.org/ -- Shenan Stanley MS-MVP -- How To Ask Questions The Smart Way http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
Guest SAM-R Posted August 28, 2007 Posted August 28, 2007 Re: Service Pack 3 for XP "Ken Blake" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message news:uuX$DFY6HHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > "pc nerd" <pc nerd@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:91958EF9-5ABE-4D97-BBE5-3D0A9383647D@microsoft.com... > >>I read somewhere that there might be a service pack 3 for XP. Is that true >>or >> is it a rumor? > > > It does not yet exist, but its expected (not guaranteed) in the first half > of next year. > Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User > Please reply to the newsgroup
Guest pc nerd Posted August 28, 2007 Posted August 28, 2007 Re: Service Pack 3 for XP "Ken Blake" wrote: > "pc nerd" <pc nerd@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:91958EF9-5ABE-4D97-BBE5-3D0A9383647D@microsoft.com... > > >I read somewhere that there might be a service pack 3 for XP. Is that true > >or > > is it a rumor? > > > It does not yet exist, but its expected (not guaranteed) in the first half > of next year. > > > > I have a related question. I want to reinstall XP because it's acting kind > > of weird. > > > Ugh! I am very much against reinstalling as a substitute for > troubleshooting. > In my view, it's usually a mistake. With a modicum of care, it should never > be necessary to reinstall Windows (XP or any other version). I've run > Windows 3.0, 3.1, WFWG 3.11, Windows 95, Windows 98, Windows 2000, and > Windows XP, each for the period of time before the next version came out, > and each on two machines here. I never reinstalled any of them, and I have > never had anything more than an occasional minor problem. > > It's my belief that this mistaken notion stems from the technical support > people at many of the larger OEMs. Their solution to almost any problem they > don't quickly know the answer to is "reformat and reinstall." That's the > perfect solution for them. It gets you off the phone quickly, it almost > always works, and it doesn't require them to do any real troubleshooting (a > skill that most of them obviously don't possess in any great degree). > > But it leaves you with all the work and all the problems. You have to > restore all your data backups, you have to reinstall all your programs, you > have to reinstall all the Windows and application updates,you have to locate > and install all the needed drivers for your system, you have to recustomize > Windows and all your apps to work the way you're comfortable with. > > Besides all those things being time-consuming and troublesome, you may have > trouble with some of them: can you find all your application CDs? Can you > find all the needed installation codes? Do you have data backups to restore? > Do you even remember all the customizations and tweaks you may have > installed to make everything work the way you like? > > Occasionally there are problems that are so difficult to solve that Windows > should be reinstalled cleanly. But they are few and far between; > reinstallation should not be a substitute for troubleshooting; it should be > a last resort, to be done only after all other attempts at troubleshooting > by a qualified person have failed. > > If you have problems, post them here; it's likely that someone can help you > and a reinstallation won't be required. > > > > Besides all the above, it's probably "acting kind of weird" because of > something you've done improperly. If you simply reinstall without finding > out what the problem was, you will probably repeat the same behavior, and > quickly find yourself back where you started. > > > -- > Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User > Please reply to the newsgroup > > > I got my PC in June 2005. I've only had 1 or 2 BSODs. I got an Alienware PC. One of the options that I paid for was what Alienware calls "Alien Respawn". After they installed the software, they ran an imaging program which includes a boot CD & an Image DVD. So, it will be easy for me to reinstall XP. In the last 2 years, I've installed & uninstalled software, so, I'm sure, that there are a lot of junk files on my PC. Sometimes when I go to shut down the PC, the ShutDown, Restart window takes several seconds to appear. Sometimes, it appears quickly. I have all of the install CDs for the software that I want to reinstall.
Guest Ken Blake Posted August 29, 2007 Posted August 29, 2007 Re: Service Pack 3 for XP "MikeB" <MPBrede@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1188316242.166772.163840@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com... > On Aug 28, 9:39 am, "Ken Blake" <kbl...@this.is.an.invalid.domain> > wrote: > >> >> Occasionally there are problems that are so difficult to solve that >> Windows >> should be reinstalled cleanly. But they are few and far between; >> reinstallation should not be a substitute for troubleshooting; it should >> be >> a last resort, to be done only after all other attempts at >> troubleshooting >> by a qualified person have failed. >> >> If you have problems, post them here; it's likely that someone can help >> you >> and a reinstallation won't be required. >> > > It's a honorable sentiment, but finding good advice/help is hard and > to acquire all the required skills is not that simple. Both of what you say are true. But there are lots of knowledgeable people here, and for those who ask rather than just reinstalling, most folks here get the solutions to their problems. > For many > people, including myself, it eventually becomes easier to reinstall > than to try and figure out the complex interactions between many > pieces of software. Eventually? Absolutely! I certainly don't suggest than nobody ever reformat and reinstall. My point is that it should be a last resort, not the automatic response to any problem. Sometimes you *do* have to give up and bite the bullet. But I've seen people who had such a simple problem as their task bar having moved to the side of the screen reformat instead of looking for the solution, which takes approximately two seconds to fix. > Besides, it gets rid of many installed pieces of > software and stuff that starts at every boot that one doesn't need. True, but that's like the proverbial shooting a mosquito with an elephant gun. There is a much less draconian solution to that problem. -- Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User Please reply to the newsgroup > In the end, I'd say htat to clean up a 5-year old install or to > reinstall it cleanly and install only the required software again is > much of a wash. > > Of course, it goes without saying that the user data is easily > locatable and can be backed up/restored. > > >
Guest MikeB Posted August 29, 2007 Posted August 29, 2007 Re: Service Pack 3 for XP On Aug 29, 9:46 am, "Ken Blake" <kbl...@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote: > "MikeB" <MPBr...@gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:1188316242.166772.163840@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com... > > > > > On Aug 28, 9:39 am, "Ken Blake" <kbl...@this.is.an.invalid.domain> > > wrote: > > >> Occasionally there are problems that are so difficult to solve that > >> Windows > >> should be reinstalled cleanly. But they are few and far between; > >> reinstallation should not be a substitute for troubleshooting; it should > >> be > >> a last resort, to be done only after all other attempts at > >> troubleshooting > >> by a qualified person have failed. > > >> If you have problems, post them here; it's likely that someone can help > >> you > >> and a reinstallation won't be required. > > > It's a honorable sentiment, but finding good advice/help is hard and > > to acquire all the required skills is not that simple. > > Both of what you say are true. But there are lots of knowledgeable people > here, and for those who ask rather than just reinstalling, most folks here > get the solutions to their problems. > Most folks. I've asked (admittedly esoteric) questions that just doesn't seem to get an on-target response here before. Also, I have received useful advice sometimes. But that's a digression.
Guest no-account Posted September 1, 2007 Posted September 1, 2007 Re: Service Pack 3 for XP On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 19:12:00 -0700, pc nerd <pc nerd@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >>I read somewhere that there might be a service pack 3 for XP. Is that true or >>is it a rumor? >> >>I have a related question. I want to reinstall XP because it's acting kind >>of weird. Is it possible to save the updates in a folder so they can be >>reinstalled later? I know that it's possible to uninstall them. Instead of going to Microsoft and downloading all those updates, you should use AutoPatcher. MS has told them to stop offering the program, but you can still find it around the net. They have stopped development. the latest version has all the patches and hot fixes up to August 2007. You can still pick up a copy of it here: http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail/AutoPatcher_XP/1067103058/1 but be forewarned that it is a 300MB and then some. But it sure as heck beats grabbin' 'em from Microsoft! You can Google for the home page and read what Microsoft told them. I think Microsoft shot themselves in the foot by screwing with these guys. They have been doing a great service. Booger Bandit
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