Guest Steve H Posted August 28, 2007 Posted August 28, 2007 Just finding my way in networking so be gentle :-) Can remote desktop be used to let one user on an XPPro machine get at his own desktop from a second machine while another user is also logged on directly? I had hoped that one user could continue working in the background in this manner, while the second user takes over the fixed workstation screen and keyboard, but it seems one must log off for the other to continue. Assuming that the answer is unfortunately "no can do", I presume the file sharing avenue is the way this is done. This however seems to require some foreknowledge of what files one might need during any one remote session, so that the right ones are in the shared folder in advance. Failing that, I suppose one could put a whole user profile in the shared folder, but this sounds a bit excessive - unless some kind of sign in is possible by this route at it is in remote desktop? How should I best proceed? Thanks in advance. S
Guest ayestyles@gmail.com Posted August 28, 2007 Posted August 28, 2007 Re: Remote desktop stupid question... On Aug 28, 8:32 am, "Steve H" <steve_a_hawk...@hotSPAMmail.com> wrote: > Just finding my way in networking so be gentle :-) > > Can remote desktop be used to let one user on an XPPro machine get at his > own desktop from a second machine while another user is also logged on > directly? I had hoped that one user could continue working in the > background in this manner, while the second user takes over the fixed > workstation screen and keyboard, but it seems one must log off for the other > to continue. > > Assuming that the answer is unfortunately "no can do", I presume the file > sharing avenue is the way this is done. This however seems to require some > foreknowledge of what files one might need during any one remote session, so > that the right ones are in the shared folder in advance. Failing that, I > suppose one could put a whole user profile in the shared folder, but this > sounds a bit excessive - unless some kind of sign in is possible by this > route at it is in remote desktop? > > How should I best proceed? > > Thanks in advance. > > S It is not possible to use remote desktop in the background with XP Professional. Server editions do have this feature but not M$'s client O/S. I believe what you are looking for is a file-sharing solution. I am not sure why you want to share a profile but you can use the built- in file-sharing features of XP by using the 'net use' command. If you want to map shared folders on login then you could make a batch file to map the drives such as: net use s: \\computername\sharename /user:localaccount password This would effectively map s: on any computer on the local network to the computername and you will of course have to provide a user/ pass to gain access. Hope this helps. A
Guest spamlet Posted August 28, 2007 Posted August 28, 2007 Re: Remote desktop stupid question... Thanks for the prompt reply A. I am a bit vague on using the run box commands, and only vaguely recall using batch files back in the days of Dos... What exactly 'mapping the shared folders' means, I'd have a guess at, but the dialogue seems to want me to create a new drive 'z', and then only lets me 'browse' to files on the same system. At the moment, I have tried going through the network set up wizards and running them on pc and laptop, but so far, can only access the laptop folders from the pc. I can use the printer remotely, but am not allowed in to the pc shared folder. On the pc, if I look at the permissions on the shared folder, under 'locations' it only allows me to specify users who are on the pc. If I try to write in locations on the laptop they are just rejected. I do not see where the setting is to give permission to users on another system, nor to set any password requirements. On the other hand, when I tried remote desktop, I was just allowed to sign in to my account in a near normal manner. File sharing seems to be far less intuitive, and even though I have read around a bit, and adjusted firewall settings, I still only seem to be able to get it to work one way - apart from the printer. All very basic stuff I am sure, but a bit confusing to a networking beginner. Thanks for your help, S <ayestyles@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1188314067.579981.18770@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com... > On Aug 28, 8:32 am, "Steve H" <steve_a_hawk...@hotSPAMmail.com> wrote: >> Just finding my way in networking so be gentle :-) >> >> Can remote desktop be used to let one user on an XPPro machine get at his >> own desktop from a second machine while another user is also logged on >> directly? I had hoped that one user could continue working in the >> background in this manner, while the second user takes over the fixed >> workstation screen and keyboard, but it seems one must log off for the >> other >> to continue. >> >> Assuming that the answer is unfortunately "no can do", I presume the file >> sharing avenue is the way this is done. This however seems to require >> some >> foreknowledge of what files one might need during any one remote session, >> so >> that the right ones are in the shared folder in advance. Failing that, I >> suppose one could put a whole user profile in the shared folder, but this >> sounds a bit excessive - unless some kind of sign in is possible by this >> route at it is in remote desktop? >> >> How should I best proceed? >> >> Thanks in advance. >> >> S > > It is not possible to use remote desktop in the background with XP > Professional. Server editions do have this feature but not M$'s client > O/S. I believe what you are looking for is a file-sharing solution. I > am not sure why you want to share a profile but you can use the built- > in file-sharing features of XP by using the 'net use' command. If you > want to map shared folders on login then you could make a batch file > to map the drives such as: > > net use s: \\computername\sharename /user:localaccount password > > This would effectively map s: on any computer on the local network to > the computername and you will of course have to provide a user/ pass > to gain access. > > Hope this helps. > > A >
Guest astyles Posted August 28, 2007 Posted August 28, 2007 Re: Remote desktop stupid question... On Aug 28, 11:37 am, "spamlet" <spam.mores...@invalid.invalid> wrote: > Thanks for the prompt reply A. > > I am a bit vague on using the run box commands, and only vaguely recall > using batch files back in the days of Dos... What exactly 'mapping the > shared folders' means, I'd have a guess at, but the dialogue seems to want > me to create a new drive 'z', and then only lets me 'browse' to files on the > same system. > > At the moment, I have tried going through the network set up wizards and > running them on pc and laptop, but so far, can only access the laptop > folders from the pc. I can use the printer remotely, but am not allowed in > to the pc shared folder. On the pc, if I look at the permissions on the > shared folder, under 'locations' it only allows me to specify users who are > on the pc. If I try to write in locations on the laptop they are just > rejected. I do not see where the setting is to give permission to users on > another system, nor to set any password requirements. > > On the other hand, when I tried remote desktop, I was just allowed to sign > in to my account in a near normal manner. File sharing seems to be far less > intuitive, and even though I have read around a bit, and adjusted firewall > settings, I still only seem to be able to get it to work one way - apart > from the printer. > > All very basic stuff I am sure, but a bit confusing to a networking > beginner. > > Thanks for your help, > > S > > <ayesty...@gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:1188314067.579981.18770@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com... > > > On Aug 28, 8:32 am, "Steve H" <steve_a_hawk...@hotSPAMmail.com> wrote: > >> Just finding my way in networking so be gentle :-) > > >> Can remote desktop be used to let one user on an XPPro machine get at his > >> own desktop from a second machine while another user is also logged on > >> directly? I had hoped that one user could continue working in the > >> background in this manner, while the second user takes over the fixed > >> workstation screen and keyboard, but it seems one must log off for the > >> other > >> to continue. > > >> Assuming that the answer is unfortunately "no can do", I presume the file > >> sharing avenue is the way this is done. This however seems to require > >> some > >> foreknowledge of what files one might need during any one remote session, > >> so > >> that the right ones are in the shared folder in advance. Failing that, I > >> suppose one could put a whole user profile in the shared folder, but this > >> sounds a bit excessive - unless some kind of sign in is possible by this > >> route at it is in remote desktop? > > >> How should I best proceed? > > >> Thanks in advance. > > >> S > > > It is not possible to use remote desktop in the background with XP > > Professional. Server editions do have this feature but not M$'s client > > O/S. I believe what you are looking for is a file-sharing solution. I > > am not sure why you want to share a profile but you can use the built- > > in file-sharing features of XP by using the 'net use' command. If you > > want to map shared folders on login then you could make a batch file > > to map the drives such as: > > > net use s: \\computername\sharename /user:localaccount password > > > This would effectively map s: on any computer on the local network to > > the computername and you will of course have to provide a user/ pass > > to gain access. > > > Hope this helps. > > > A To make a long story short you should create an identical username / password on both the laptop and the computer system you are accessing it from. Always use those accounts when logging into either. Windows XP wants to 'secure' your data so it's hiding things from your PC when trying to access your laptop because it doesn't know who your PC is. When you want to use something on your laptop from your pc, the easy way is to right click on it and 'share' it. Then you can type \ \thenameofyourlaptop (from start/run on your PC) and you will see everything that is shared and available on your laptop. If you don't know the name of your computer go to a dos prompt and type 'hostname', that is the name of your computer. A
Guest spamlet Posted August 28, 2007 Posted August 28, 2007 Re: Remote desktop stupid question... Thanks once again: that has probably pointed me in the right direction. Other user has other things to do at the moment so I will have to continue the experiment tomorrow. Will let you know how it turns out. Cheers, S "astyles" <ayestyles@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1188326851.473135.186780@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com... > On Aug 28, 11:37 am, "spamlet" <spam.mores...@invalid.invalid> wrote: >> Thanks for the prompt reply A. >> >> I am a bit vague on using the run box commands, and only vaguely recall >> using batch files back in the days of Dos... What exactly 'mapping the >> shared folders' means, I'd have a guess at, but the dialogue seems to >> want >> me to create a new drive 'z', and then only lets me 'browse' to files on >> the >> same system. >> >> At the moment, I have tried going through the network set up wizards and >> running them on pc and laptop, but so far, can only access the laptop >> folders from the pc. I can use the printer remotely, but am not allowed >> in >> to the pc shared folder. On the pc, if I look at the permissions on the >> shared folder, under 'locations' it only allows me to specify users who >> are >> on the pc. If I try to write in locations on the laptop they are just >> rejected. I do not see where the setting is to give permission to users >> on >> another system, nor to set any password requirements. >> >> On the other hand, when I tried remote desktop, I was just allowed to >> sign >> in to my account in a near normal manner. File sharing seems to be far >> less >> intuitive, and even though I have read around a bit, and adjusted >> firewall >> settings, I still only seem to be able to get it to work one way - apart >> from the printer. >> >> All very basic stuff I am sure, but a bit confusing to a networking >> beginner. >> >> Thanks for your help, >> >> S >> >> <ayesty...@gmail.com> wrote in message >> >> news:1188314067.579981.18770@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com... >> >> > On Aug 28, 8:32 am, "Steve H" <steve_a_hawk...@hotSPAMmail.com> wrote: >> >> Just finding my way in networking so be gentle :-) >> >> >> Can remote desktop be used to let one user on an XPPro machine get at >> >> his >> >> own desktop from a second machine while another user is also logged on >> >> directly? I had hoped that one user could continue working in the >> >> background in this manner, while the second user takes over the fixed >> >> workstation screen and keyboard, but it seems one must log off for the >> >> other >> >> to continue. >> >> >> Assuming that the answer is unfortunately "no can do", I presume the >> >> file >> >> sharing avenue is the way this is done. This however seems to require >> >> some >> >> foreknowledge of what files one might need during any one remote >> >> session, >> >> so >> >> that the right ones are in the shared folder in advance. Failing >> >> that, I >> >> suppose one could put a whole user profile in the shared folder, but >> >> this >> >> sounds a bit excessive - unless some kind of sign in is possible by >> >> this >> >> route at it is in remote desktop? >> >> >> How should I best proceed? >> >> >> Thanks in advance. >> >> >> S >> >> > It is not possible to use remote desktop in the background with XP >> > Professional. Server editions do have this feature but not M$'s client >> > O/S. I believe what you are looking for is a file-sharing solution. I >> > am not sure why you want to share a profile but you can use the built- >> > in file-sharing features of XP by using the 'net use' command. If you >> > want to map shared folders on login then you could make a batch file >> > to map the drives such as: >> >> > net use s: \\computername\sharename /user:localaccount password >> >> > This would effectively map s: on any computer on the local network to >> > the computername and you will of course have to provide a user/ pass >> > to gain access. >> >> > Hope this helps. >> >> > A > > To make a long story short you should create an identical username / > password on both the laptop and the computer system you are accessing > it from. Always use those accounts when logging into either. Windows > XP wants to 'secure' your data so it's hiding things from your PC when > trying to access your laptop because it doesn't know who your PC is. > When you want to use something on your laptop from your pc, the easy > way is to right click on it and 'share' it. Then you can type \ > \thenameofyourlaptop (from start/run on your PC) and you will see > everything that is shared and available on your laptop. If you don't > know the name of your computer go to a dos prompt and type 'hostname', > that is the name of your computer. > > A >
Guest Steve H Posted August 30, 2007 Posted August 30, 2007 Re: Remote desktop stupid question... > "astyles" <ayestyles@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:1188326851.473135.186780@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com... >> On Aug 28, 11:37 am, "spamlet" <spam.mores...@invalid.invalid> wrote: >>> Thanks for the prompt reply A. >>> >>> I am a bit vague on using the run box commands, and only vaguely recall >>> using batch files back in the days of Dos... What exactly 'mapping the >>> shared folders' means, I'd have a guess at, but the dialogue seems to >>> want >>> me to create a new drive 'z', and then only lets me 'browse' to files on >>> the >>> same system. >>> >>> At the moment, I have tried going through the network set up wizards and >>> running them on pc and laptop, but so far, can only access the laptop >>> folders from the pc. I can use the printer remotely, but am not allowed >>> in >>> to the pc shared folder. On the pc, if I look at the permissions on the >>> shared folder, under 'locations' it only allows me to specify users who >>> are >>> on the pc. If I try to write in locations on the laptop they are just >>> rejected. I do not see where the setting is to give permission to users >>> on >>> another system, nor to set any password requirements. >>> >>> On the other hand, when I tried remote desktop, I was just allowed to >>> sign >>> in to my account in a near normal manner. File sharing seems to be far >>> less >>> intuitive, and even though I have read around a bit, and adjusted >>> firewall >>> settings, I still only seem to be able to get it to work one way - apart >>> from the printer. >>> >>> All very basic stuff I am sure, but a bit confusing to a networking >>> beginner. >>> >>> Thanks for your help, >>> >>> S >>> >>> <ayesty...@gmail.com> wrote in message >>> >>> news:1188314067.579981.18770@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com... >>> >>> > On Aug 28, 8:32 am, "Steve H" <steve_a_hawk...@hotSPAMmail.com> wrote: >>> >> Just finding my way in networking so be gentle :-) >>> >>> >> Can remote desktop be used to let one user on an XPPro machine get at >>> >> his >>> >> own desktop from a second machine while another user is also logged >>> >> on >>> >> directly? I had hoped that one user could continue working in the >>> >> background in this manner, while the second user takes over the fixed >>> >> workstation screen and keyboard, but it seems one must log off for >>> >> the >>> >> other >>> >> to continue. >>> >>> >> Assuming that the answer is unfortunately "no can do", I presume the >>> >> file >>> >> sharing avenue is the way this is done. This however seems to >>> >> require >>> >> some >>> >> foreknowledge of what files one might need during any one remote >>> >> session, >>> >> so >>> >> that the right ones are in the shared folder in advance. Failing >>> >> that, I >>> >> suppose one could put a whole user profile in the shared folder, but >>> >> this >>> >> sounds a bit excessive - unless some kind of sign in is possible by >>> >> this >>> >> route at it is in remote desktop? >>> >>> >> How should I best proceed? >>> >>> >> Thanks in advance. >>> >>> >> S >>> >>> > It is not possible to use remote desktop in the background with XP >>> > Professional. Server editions do have this feature but not M$'s client >>> > O/S. I believe what you are looking for is a file-sharing solution. I >>> > am not sure why you want to share a profile but you can use the built- >>> > in file-sharing features of XP by using the 'net use' command. If you >>> > want to map shared folders on login then you could make a batch file >>> > to map the drives such as: >>> >>> > net use s: \\computername\sharename /user:localaccount password >>> >>> > This would effectively map s: on any computer on the local network to >>> > the computername and you will of course have to provide a user/ pass >>> > to gain access. >>> >>> > Hope this helps. >>> >>> > A >> >> To make a long story short you should create an identical username / >> password on both the laptop and the computer system you are accessing >> it from. Always use those accounts when logging into either. Windows >> XP wants to 'secure' your data so it's hiding things from your PC when >> trying to access your laptop because it doesn't know who your PC is. >> When you want to use something on your laptop from your pc, the easy >> way is to right click on it and 'share' it. Then you can type \ >> \thenameofyourlaptop (from start/run on your PC) and you will see >> everything that is shared and available on your laptop. If you don't >> know the name of your computer go to a dos prompt and type 'hostname', >> that is the name of your computer. >> >> A >> > Hi gain A, (I had some complaints in another group that I was 'top posting', so hope this is better...) Have started again from scratch and managed to get all the m/cs on the same group at last. However, I did discover that if I just added 'everyone' to the pc's permissions on the shared folder, I could access it from the laptop before I opted to start again, but this seemed a stupid way to go about things. So I am surprised to find that when I did start again and run the network set up wizard on both m/cs, this was indeed the way the wizard itself set the permissions: simply adding 'everyone' to the shared folder! There is still no way that I can see to add a permission for a particular user only of the laptop to access the shared folder on the pc. The locations dialogue only allows for users of the m/c that hosts the folder to be 'added' to the permissions. How does one get it to allow for selecting locations on another device? (A similar state exists when one tries to 'map drive' to locations on the other device: there is no way to get to these in 'browsing' as only locations on the same device are given as options: there seems to be no way to specify files on a different m/c.) Apologies for continuing to fail to grasp all this. And I appreciate that this has become a question which would have been better on a dedicated networking group (I have scanned these for extra hints too - though the english groups don't seem to have a 'xp-networking' basics : just web and wireless dedicated ones.) so thanks for your continuing patience and advice. Regards, S
Guest Steve H Posted August 31, 2007 Posted August 31, 2007 Re: Remote desktop stupid question... I will be away from my mail for a week from a few hours from now, but please do leave any further tips for me. Thanks, S "Steve H" <steve_a_hawkins@hotSPAMmail.com> wrote in message news:%23pzQhPw6HHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > >> "astyles" <ayestyles@gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:1188326851.473135.186780@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com... >>> On Aug 28, 11:37 am, "spamlet" <spam.mores...@invalid.invalid> wrote: >>>> Thanks for the prompt reply A. >>>> >>>> I am a bit vague on using the run box commands, and only vaguely recall >>>> using batch files back in the days of Dos... What exactly 'mapping the >>>> shared folders' means, I'd have a guess at, but the dialogue seems to >>>> want >>>> me to create a new drive 'z', and then only lets me 'browse' to files >>>> on the >>>> same system. >>>> >>>> At the moment, I have tried going through the network set up wizards >>>> and >>>> running them on pc and laptop, but so far, can only access the laptop >>>> folders from the pc. I can use the printer remotely, but am not >>>> allowed in >>>> to the pc shared folder. On the pc, if I look at the permissions on >>>> the >>>> shared folder, under 'locations' it only allows me to specify users who >>>> are >>>> on the pc. If I try to write in locations on the laptop they are just >>>> rejected. I do not see where the setting is to give permission to >>>> users on >>>> another system, nor to set any password requirements. >>>> >>>> On the other hand, when I tried remote desktop, I was just allowed to >>>> sign >>>> in to my account in a near normal manner. File sharing seems to be far >>>> less >>>> intuitive, and even though I have read around a bit, and adjusted >>>> firewall >>>> settings, I still only seem to be able to get it to work one way - >>>> apart >>>> from the printer. >>>> >>>> All very basic stuff I am sure, but a bit confusing to a networking >>>> beginner. >>>> >>>> Thanks for your help, >>>> >>>> S >>>> >>>> <ayesty...@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>> >>>> news:1188314067.579981.18770@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com... >>>> >>>> > On Aug 28, 8:32 am, "Steve H" <steve_a_hawk...@hotSPAMmail.com> >>>> > wrote: >>>> >> Just finding my way in networking so be gentle :-) >>>> >>>> >> Can remote desktop be used to let one user on an XPPro machine get >>>> >> at his >>>> >> own desktop from a second machine while another user is also logged >>>> >> on >>>> >> directly? I had hoped that one user could continue working in the >>>> >> background in this manner, while the second user takes over the >>>> >> fixed >>>> >> workstation screen and keyboard, but it seems one must log off for >>>> >> the >>>> >> other >>>> >> to continue. >>>> >>>> >> Assuming that the answer is unfortunately "no can do", I presume the >>>> >> file >>>> >> sharing avenue is the way this is done. This however seems to >>>> >> require >>>> >> some >>>> >> foreknowledge of what files one might need during any one remote >>>> >> session, >>>> >> so >>>> >> that the right ones are in the shared folder in advance. Failing >>>> >> that, I >>>> >> suppose one could put a whole user profile in the shared folder, but >>>> >> this >>>> >> sounds a bit excessive - unless some kind of sign in is possible by >>>> >> this >>>> >> route at it is in remote desktop? >>>> >>>> >> How should I best proceed? >>>> >>>> >> Thanks in advance. >>>> >>>> >> S >>>> >>>> > It is not possible to use remote desktop in the background with XP >>>> > Professional. Server editions do have this feature but not M$'s >>>> > client >>>> > O/S. I believe what you are looking for is a file-sharing solution. I >>>> > am not sure why you want to share a profile but you can use the >>>> > built- >>>> > in file-sharing features of XP by using the 'net use' command. If you >>>> > want to map shared folders on login then you could make a batch file >>>> > to map the drives such as: >>>> >>>> > net use s: \\computername\sharename /user:localaccount password >>>> >>>> > This would effectively map s: on any computer on the local network to >>>> > the computername and you will of course have to provide a user/ pass >>>> > to gain access. >>>> >>>> > Hope this helps. >>>> >>>> > A >>> >>> To make a long story short you should create an identical username / >>> password on both the laptop and the computer system you are accessing >>> it from. Always use those accounts when logging into either. Windows >>> XP wants to 'secure' your data so it's hiding things from your PC when >>> trying to access your laptop because it doesn't know who your PC is. >>> When you want to use something on your laptop from your pc, the easy >>> way is to right click on it and 'share' it. Then you can type \ >>> \thenameofyourlaptop (from start/run on your PC) and you will see >>> everything that is shared and available on your laptop. If you don't >>> know the name of your computer go to a dos prompt and type 'hostname', >>> that is the name of your computer. >>> >>> A >>> >> > Hi gain A, > > (I had some complaints in another group that I was 'top posting', so hope > this is better...) > > Have started again from scratch and managed to get all the m/cs on the > same group at last. However, I did discover that if I just added > 'everyone' to the pc's permissions on the shared folder, I could access it > from the laptop before I opted to start again, but this seemed a stupid > way to go about things. So I am surprised to find that when I did start > again and run the network set up wizard on both m/cs, this was indeed the > way the wizard itself set the permissions: simply adding 'everyone' to the > shared folder! > > There is still no way that I can see to add a permission for a particular > user only of the laptop to access the shared folder on the pc. The > locations dialogue only allows for users of the m/c that hosts the folder > to be 'added' to the permissions. How does one get it to allow for > selecting locations on another device? (A similar state exists when one > tries to 'map drive' to locations on the other device: there is no way to > get to these in 'browsing' as only locations on the same device are given > as options: there seems to be no way to specify files on a different m/c.) > > Apologies for continuing to fail to grasp all this. And I appreciate that > this has become a question which would have been better on a dedicated > networking group (I have scanned these for extra hints too - though the > english groups don't seem to have a 'xp-networking' basics : just web and > wireless dedicated ones.) so thanks for your continuing patience and > advice. > > Regards, > > S > >
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