logoff&standby

[Guest Jim]

Hello, I recently got ADSL hooked up to the NIC which in my case is a HP

Ethernet adapter. The BB connection is long overdue for me. Unfortunately,

when user goes to lunch etc. and puts the local_machine on standby, the APM

does this, but about a minute later the machine comes up out of standby mode

leaving the screen blank with a cursor blinking in the upper left of screen.

If the user chooses to logoff and standby for next users the same thing

happens. If the user allows the power management in windows to bring the

machine into standby, it turns off the monitor and that is as far as it gets

in the sequence. This machine has ACPI. Any thoughts here on what to do to

get this security feature working properly?

[Guest PCR]

Re: logoff&standby

 

"Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message

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| Hello, I recently got ADSL hooked up to the NIC which in my case is a

| HP Ethernet adapter. The BB connection is long overdue for me.

| Unfortunately, when user goes to lunch etc. and puts the

| local_machine on standby, the APM does this, but about a minute later

| the machine comes up out of standby mode leaving the screen blank

| with a cursor blinking in the upper left of screen. If the user

| chooses to logoff and standby for next users the same thing happens.

| If the user allows the power management in windows to bring the

| machine into standby, it turns off the monitor and that is as far as

| it gets in the sequence. This machine has ACPI. Any thoughts here on

| what to do to get this security feature working properly?

 

I've never had to deal with that. Others have said it may not be easy.

Here are some articles, but you have not mentioned any error messages...

 

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;188246&Product=w98

Err Msg: Your Computer Cannot Go on Standby Because a Device...

(188246) - When your attempt to put Windows 98 or Windows Millennium

Edition (Me) in Standby mode, you may receive the following error

message: Your computer cannot go on standby because a device driver or

program won't allow it. Close all programs and try...

 

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;232728&Product=w98

Computer May Be Unable to Start Standby Mode

(232728) - When your computer attempts to start Standby mode, you may

receive the following error message: Your computer cannot go on standby

because a device driver or program won't allow it. Close all open

programs, and then try again.

 

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;232902&Product=w98

Cannot Use Standby Mode with USB Epson Stylus 740 Printer

(232902) - When you attempt to place your computer in Standby mode, you

may receive the following error message: Your computer cannot go on

standby because a device driver or program won't allow it. Close all

open programs, and then try again. If you click OK,...

 

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;232942&Product=w98

Error Message Disables Power Management Events

(232942) - When you receive the error message "Your computer cannot go

into standby," any of the following symptoms may occur:

[Guest Jim]

Re: logoff&standby

 

> I've never had to deal with that. Others have said it may not be easy.

> Here are some articles, but you have not mentioned any error messages...

 

I'll take a look at those articles, but I think it is a hardware problem at

this point in time. Yes, I have seen those error messages before, but not

with this situation.

[Guest PCR]

Re: logoff&standby

 

"Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message

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|> I've never had to deal with that. Others have said it may not be

|> easy. Here are some articles, but you have not mentioned any error

|> messages...

|

| I'll take a look at those articles, but I think it is a hardware

| problem at this point in time. Yes, I have seen those error messages

| before, but not with this situation.

 

Keep us informed. It could be tough to deal with, which is why I dread

the day Standby will fail to work for me! I hardly use it any more,

though-- but I do see that your situation is different. If you should

decide you cannot get it back, try relaxing the settings at... "Control

Panel, Power Management"... to turn off the monitor only. That's

probably the biggest power consumer, as someone once said before me.

 

There are actually 46 articles that mention "Standby" at...

http://search.support.microsoft.com/search/?adv=1&spid=1139 MSKB

Search "Standby"; Windows 98; This Product First; Full Text; All Words;

AnyTime.

 

Here are just a few more...

 

• Windows Does Not Go Into or Resume from Standby Mode

(187285) - When you attempt to put Windows 98 in Standby mode by

clicking Start, clicking Shut Down, clicking Stand By, and then clicking

OK, Windows 98 may not go into Standby mode. If Windows 98 does go into

Standby mode, you may be unable to resume from...

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/187285/en-us

 

• Standby Missing From Windows Shutdown Dialog Box

(188134) - When you click Start, and then click Shut Down, the Standby

option may be missing from the Shut Down Windows dialog box. ... issue

can occur for any of the following reasons: When you received the

following message, you clicked Yes: The last few times your computer

went on standby it stopped ...

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/188134/en-us

 

• Computer Is Unable to Go to Standby Mode

(189619) - When your computer has been inactive long enough for it to go

to Standby mode, it may not go to Standby mode. Also, you may receive a

message that says your computer will standby in 15 seconds, but your

computer may not go to Standby mode.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/189619/en-us

 

• Computer Hangs When Putting Windows 98 Into Standby Mode

(188100) - When you attempt to put your Windows 98-based computer into

Standby mode, your computer may stop responding (hang). ... This program

installs an outdated version of the Vmlid.nlm file that can interfere

with Standby mode.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/188100/en-us

 

• Computer Appears to Hang When You Resume from Standby Mode

(190362) - When you attempt to resume your computer from Standby mode,

your computer may appear to stop responding (hang), and only a blinking

cursor may be displayed on a black screen. ... following conditions

exist: You use the keyboard or a power management timer to put your

computer into Standby mode.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/190362/en-us

[Guest ernie]

Re: logoff&standby

 

Did any new peripheral get installed, the NIC for instance? I had a NIC that

prevented the resume from standby similarly to what you describe but didn't

attempt to resume on its own, it died and the replacement gave no such

problem.

 

I have the ACPI bios, which does

not use APM afaik. Check for problems in Device manager, there should not be

any APM devices, Unknown devices or duplicates nor error flags.

 

HTH,

ern.

 

"Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message

news:#yLYFNa6HHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> Hello, I recently got ADSL hooked up to the NIC which in my case is a HP

> Ethernet adapter. The BB connection is long overdue for me. Unfortunately,

> when user goes to lunch etc. and puts the local_machine on standby, the

APM

> does this, but about a minute later the machine comes up out of standby

mode

> leaving the screen blank with a cursor blinking in the upper left of

screen.

> If the user chooses to logoff and standby for next users the same thing

> happens. If the user allows the power management in windows to bring the

> machine into standby, it turns off the monitor and that is as far as it

gets

> in the sequence. This machine has ACPI. Any thoughts here on what to do to

> get this security feature working properly?

>

>

[Guest Jim]

Re: logoff&standby

 

The NIC was factory installed. All you need is the adaptor activated in

Network configuration components.

 

The APM is a predecessor of ACPI bios which both are windows GUI. [i have

ACPI]. Sometimes it is referred to in a hierarchal way like the ACPI of the

"Advanced Power Management". Also, the BIOS has "APM" and it is set to

[customized] by factory default so you can control this from the windows

GUI. It may be that the user needs to set the [enable] shutdown and

[timeout] for standby for HDD in the BIOS. But then why customize for the

windows GUI?

 

There are some tweaks in System>Device manager>PCI Bus>Bridge>Ethernet

properties "power management" tab.

These are checked. I did uncheck "allow the device to bring the computer out

of standby", but no luck.

 

The above paragraph may be a semantics issue but that was the state of its

development at the time of these machines manufacture. Windows 95B and 98

may have had APM and 98 2nd Ed. and above had ACPI.

 

"ernie" <ernie@unspam.co.uk> wrote in message

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> Did any new peripheral get installed, the NIC for instance? I had a NIC

that

> prevented the resume from standby similarly to what you describe but

didn't

> attempt to resume on its own, it died and the replacement gave no such

> problem.

>

> I have the ACPI bios, which does

> not use APM afaik. Check for problems in Device manager, there should not

be

> any APM devices, Unknown devices or duplicates nor error flags.

>

> HTH,

> ern.

>

> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message

> news:#yLYFNa6HHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> > Hello, I recently got ADSL hooked up to the NIC which in my case is a HP

> > Ethernet adapter. The BB connection is long overdue for me.

Unfortunately,

> > when user goes to lunch etc. and puts the local_machine on standby, the

> APM

> > does this, but about a minute later the machine comes up out of standby

> mode

> > leaving the screen blank with a cursor blinking in the upper left of

> screen.

> > If the user chooses to logoff and standby for next users the same thing

> > happens. If the user allows the power management in windows to bring

the

> > machine into standby, it turns off the monitor and that is as far as it

> gets

> > in the sequence. This machine has ACPI. Any thoughts here on what to do

to

> > get this security feature working properly?

> >

> >

>

>

[Guest Franc Zabkar]

Re: logoff&standby

 

On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 14:42:36 -0400, "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid>

put finger to keyboard and composed:

>Hello, I recently got ADSL hooked up to the NIC which in my case is a HP

>Ethernet adapter. The BB connection is long overdue for me. Unfortunately,

>when user goes to lunch etc. and puts the local_machine on standby, the APM

>does this, but about a minute later the machine comes up out of standby mode

>leaving the screen blank with a cursor blinking in the upper left of screen.

>If the user chooses to logoff and standby for next users the same thing

>happens. If the user allows the power management in windows to bring the

>machine into standby, it turns off the monitor and that is as far as it gets

>in the sequence. This machine has ACPI. Any thoughts here on what to do to

>get this security feature working properly?

 

I sometimes get the blinking cursor in the upper LH corner after

coming out of standby. FWIW, my machine, a socket 7 box, does not have

ACPI.

 

The problem occurs about 5% of the time, or maybe less, so I have not

given much thought to troubleshooting it.

 

- Franc Zabkar

--

Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

[Guest ernie]

Re: logoff&standby

 

You may not have had the time to check all of PCR's search results but it is

worth pointing out that duplicates in Device Manager often show up in Safe

Mode which don't in Normal Mode. My NIC is attached in the "By Connection"

view to the PCI Bus without the "Bridge" intervening.

 

Yes, my BIOS setup prog. has that Power management/APM setting currently set

at Disabled,

but that still leaves some settings available, it sounds that you have

checked them out.

 

This computer had Windows 98 first edition and the ACPI bios

detected/installed whereas my previous one had Win98se and APM so it is more

a matter of hardware though that has advanced historically.

HTH,

ern.

 

"Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message

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> The NIC was factory installed. All you need is the adaptor activated in

> Network configuration components.

>

> The APM is a predecessor of ACPI bios which both are windows GUI. [i have

> ACPI]. Sometimes it is referred to in a hierarchal way like the ACPI of

the

> "Advanced Power Management". Also, the BIOS has "APM" and it is set to

> [customized] by factory default so you can control this from the windows

> GUI. It may be that the user needs to set the [enable] shutdown and

> [timeout] for standby for HDD in the BIOS. But then why customize for the

> windows GUI?

>

> There are some tweaks in System>Device manager>PCI Bus>Bridge>Ethernet

> properties "power management" tab.

> These are checked. I did uncheck "allow the device to bring the computer

out

> of standby", but no luck.

>

> The above paragraph may be a semantics issue but that was the state of its

> development at the time of these machines manufacture. Windows 95B and 98

> may have had APM and 98 2nd Ed. and above had ACPI.

>

> "ernie" <ernie@unspam.co.uk> wrote in message

> news:OONsW%23$6HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> > Did any new peripheral get installed, the NIC for instance? I had a NIC

> that

> > prevented the resume from standby similarly to what you describe but

> didn't

> > attempt to resume on its own, it died and the replacement gave no such

> > problem.

> >

> > I have the ACPI bios, which does

> > not use APM afaik. Check for problems in Device manager, there should

not

> be

> > any APM devices, Unknown devices or duplicates nor error flags.

> >

> > HTH,

> > ern.

> >

> > "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message

> > news:#yLYFNa6HHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> > > Hello, I recently got ADSL hooked up to the NIC which in my case is a

HP

> > > Ethernet adapter. The BB connection is long overdue for me.

> Unfortunately,

> > > when user goes to lunch etc. and puts the local_machine on standby,

the

> > APM

> > > does this, but about a minute later the machine comes up out of

standby

> > mode

> > > leaving the screen blank with a cursor blinking in the upper left of

> > screen.

> > > If the user chooses to logoff and standby for next users the same

thing

> > > happens. If the user allows the power management in windows to bring

> the

> > > machine into standby, it turns off the monitor and that is as far as

it

> > gets

> > > in the sequence. This machine has ACPI. Any thoughts here on what to

do

> to

> > > get this security feature working properly?

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

>

>