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Re: problem with ATI Radeon 9800 Pro - please help

 

Buffalo wrote:

> Adam wrote:

>> "Buffalo" <Eric@nada.com.invalid> wrote in message

>> news:xqKdnTcLQqXWNUnbnZ2dnUVZ_sytnZ2d@comcast.com...

>>>

>>> "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote in message

>>> news:zD0Bi.30856$RX.12257@newssvr11.news.prodigy.net...

>>>>

>>>> "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:ARuzi.47475$Um6.30359@newssvr12.news.prodigy.net...

>>>>>

>>>>> "Buffalo" <Eric@nada.com.invalid> wrote in message

>>>>> news:1ridnaSs_fk2kFPbnZ2dnUVZ_o2vnZ2d@comcast.com...

>>>>>> Adam wrote:

>>>>>>> My current setup is as follows ...

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Asus A7V133 [rev 1.05. (with dot)] with VIA 4in1 driver v4.43

>>>>>>> AMD Athlon XP 1600+

>>>>>>> AGP Slot: Video - 128MB ATI Radeon 9800 Pro

>>>>>>> PCI Slot 1: -----

>>>>>>> PCI Slot 2: NIC - 3Com 3C905C-TX-M

>>>>>>> PCI Slot 3: Sound - Creative Labs SB Live! 5.1

>>>>>>> PCI Slot 4: USB Card

>>>>>>> PCI Slot 5: -----

>>>>>>> Operating System: Windows 98 Second Edition

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> The problem started creeping up last night ...

>>>>>>> - bad pixels appear randomly on the screen

>>>>>>> - the system freezes when I move the mouse

>>>>>>> - something was mildly burning / overheating

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> I powered off the system overnight. Turned it back on this

>>>>>>> morning. It worked briefly. Then, the problem started up again.

>>>>>>> On one reboot, I got the following message ...

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> "You have not connected the power extension cable to

>>>>>>> your Radeon 9800 video card

>>>>>>> Please refer to the "Getting Started Guide" for

>>>>>>> proper hardware installation !!!"

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> After removing the video card, cleaning and reinserting,

>>>>>>> the message (above) went away. But, I noticed that

>>>>>>> the fan on the video card was not spinning. So,

>>>>>>> my guess is that the video card is overheating.

>>>>>>> Hopefully, this can be fixed somehow. Any ideas?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Also, I now get the following "warning" message ...

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> "The ATI Control Panel failed to initialize because

>>>>>>> no ATI driver is installed, or ATI driver is not working

>>>>>>> properly. The ATI Control Panel will now exit."

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> And, the only display setting that works is 640 x 480

>>>>>>> It will not take any other resolution.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Look at :

>>>>>>

>

http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/Graphics/VGA_silencer_install/VGA_silencer_instal

>>>>>> l.html

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> Thanks for the link. Just what I need to

>>>>> clarify my understanding about these VGA coolers.

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>> After removing the fan and heatsink, what's the best way to

>>>> remove the residual thermal compound from the GPU?

>>>> Is there a good website with pictures and instructions?

>>>> That stuff is all over the GPU (as expected) and beyond.

>>>>

>>>> In the following link ...

>>>>

>>>

>>

>

http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/Graphics/VGA_silencer_install/VGA_silencer_install2.h

>>>> tml#storytop

>>>> what are those dots around the GPU

>>>

>>> Rubbing alcohol seems to work fine.

>>> Just the raised portion of the GPU is what you need to clean.

>>> Don't scrape over those 'white dots' or you will be minus a video

>>> card. They are electronic components such as resistors,etc.

>>> When you apply the new paste, just a little dab will do it. It

>>> basically just fills in the tiny voids that can trap air.

>>> The more polished the mating surfaces are, the less heatsink paste

>>> is required.

>>> If they were perfectly polished, no paste would be required. Air is

>>> an insulator.

>>> If it is too thick, it will act as an insulator and slow down the

>>> heat transfer.

>>> Google the proper way to apply it.

>>>

>>

>> Arctic Cooling Accelero S2 comes with

>> a thermal pad pre-attached to the heatsink.

>> All I have to do is clean the GPU surface and

>> attach the VGA cooler, right? No need to mess with

>> other thermal paste, right?

>>

>> See Arctic Cooling Accelero S2 here ...

>> http://www.burnoutpc.com/modules/smartsection/print.php?itemid=264

>

> The pad will work just fine. Although paste, such as Artic Silver

> might work a 'little' better, I think you should just use the

> supplied pad and see how it works. If more cooling is required, then

> you can go ahead and remove the pad and its residue later and apply

> the fairly expensive Artic Silver. Heat sink paste tests usually list

> Artic Silver among the best, but the difference in performance

> between the cheap Radio Shack paste and the expensive Artic Silver

> paste isn't much. Artic Silver may last longer, though.

 

PS: Don't forget to remove the protective tape from the pad before

installing the heatsink.

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