Guest Adrian Marsh Posted August 29, 2007 Posted August 29, 2007 Hi, I've a problem on my XP Pro setup that I can't locate, and am looking for ideas... For some reason, seemingly random time-wise, one process on my Desktop suddenly shoots up to 50% CPU. Each time the process is different.. I've seen: firefox.exe rundll32.exe (often) explorer.exe googledesktop.exe (nvidia something..) Happens now at least twice a day. When I kill the offending process, quite often, a completely unrelated process takes over that 50%. I kill that, and it moves on again to yet another random process. The only way to beat it seems to be to reboot, until it happens again. Process Explorer shows memory is ok. No faults anywhere else I can tell, and normal ops seems ok. I'm guessing its a shared DLL somewhere, but not quite sure how to track it down. Normal ideas of "what did I last install" escape me.. and I've tried removing a few of the last ones I can remember, but no success. Any ideas? Adrian
Guest Unknown Posted August 29, 2007 Posted August 29, 2007 Re: Random processes stealing 50% CPU In an effort to locate, try shutting down two at a time. Start with firefox and google. "Adrian Marsh" <adrianmarsh@community.nospam> wrote in message news:uxpDq0l6HHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Hi, > > I've a problem on my XP Pro setup that I can't locate, and am looking for > ideas... > > For some reason, seemingly random time-wise, one process on my Desktop > suddenly shoots up to 50% CPU. Each time the process is different.. I've > seen: > > firefox.exe > rundll32.exe > (often) explorer.exe > googledesktop.exe > (nvidia something..) > > Happens now at least twice a day. > > When I kill the offending process, quite often, a completely unrelated > process takes over that 50%. I kill that, and it moves on again to yet > another random process. > > The only way to beat it seems to be to reboot, until it happens again. > Process Explorer shows memory is ok. No faults anywhere else I can tell, > and normal ops seems ok. > > I'm guessing its a shared DLL somewhere, but not quite sure how to track > it down. Normal ideas of "what did I last install" escape me.. and I've > tried removing a few of the last ones I can remember, but no success. > > Any ideas? > > Adrian
Guest Bob I Posted August 29, 2007 Posted August 29, 2007 Re: Random processes stealing 50% CPU Perhaps you have a hyper-thread CPU. The process is being handled like you have multiple CPUs but the "hyperthread" part isn't a real CPU. So the 50% is sort of a bogus reading. Adrian Marsh wrote: > Hi, > > I've a problem on my XP Pro setup that I can't locate, and am looking > for ideas... > > For some reason, seemingly random time-wise, one process on my Desktop > suddenly shoots up to 50% CPU. Each time the process is different.. > I've seen: > > firefox.exe > rundll32.exe > (often) explorer.exe > googledesktop.exe > (nvidia something..) > > Happens now at least twice a day. > > When I kill the offending process, quite often, a completely unrelated > process takes over that 50%. I kill that, and it moves on again to yet > another random process. > > The only way to beat it seems to be to reboot, until it happens again. > Process Explorer shows memory is ok. No faults anywhere else I can tell, > and normal ops seems ok. > > I'm guessing its a shared DLL somewhere, but not quite sure how to track > it down. Normal ideas of "what did I last install" escape me.. and I've > tried removing a few of the last ones I can remember, but no success. > > Any ideas? > > Adrian
Guest Adrian Marsh (NNTP) Posted August 29, 2007 Posted August 29, 2007 Re: Random processes stealing 50% CPU Theres definitely a performance impact on the machine.. Other procsses halt for a few seconds..
Guest Adrian Marsh (NNTP) Posted August 29, 2007 Posted August 29, 2007 Re: Random processes stealing 50% CPU Yeah.. thats what I try, but then the next one "takes over" the 50%.. so I kill that.. and it moves on.. Problem is I just can't see a commen link. The ones in my list are just a shortlist example.. Unknown wrote: > In an effort to locate, try shutting down two at a time. Start with firefox > and google.
Guest Ken Zhao [MSFT] Posted August 30, 2007 Posted August 30, 2007 Re: Random processes stealing 50% CPU Hello Adrian, Thank you for using newsgroup! From your post, I suggest we first restart the computer in Safe Mode to see if the problem also occurs in this mode. Safe Mode loads a minimally protected-mode configuration, disabling Windows device drivers and using the standard VGA display adapter. 1. Restart the computer. 2. Keep pressing F8 key until the Windows Startup menu appears. 3. Choose the Safe Mode with Network, and press Enter. Note: Some third party applications and hardware devices cannot be used during Safe Mode. You will temporarily be unable to connect to the Internet while in Safe Mode. Thanks & Regards, Ken Zhao Microsoft Online Support Microsoft Global Technical Support Center Get Secure! - http://www.microsoft.com/security <http://www.microsoft.com/security> ==================================================== When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader so that others may learn and benefit from your issue. ==================================================== This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. -------------------- | Message-ID: <46D5E422.2090708@_removeme_ubiquisys.com> | Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 22:24:50 +0100 | From: "Adrian Marsh (NNTP)" <adrian.marsh@_removeme_ubiquisys.com> | User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) | MIME-Version: 1.0 | Subject: Re: Random processes stealing 50% CPU | References: <uxpDq0l6HHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl> <EaiBi.7269$924.535@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net> | In-Reply-To: <EaiBi.7269$924.535@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net> | Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 | Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit | Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general | NNTP-Posting-Host: 213-162-121-253.adrian080.adsl.metronet.co.uk 213.162.121.253 | Lines: 1 | Path: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl | Xref: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:118179 | X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general | | Yeah.. thats what I try, but then the next one "takes over" the 50%.. so | I kill that.. and it moves on.. Problem is I just can't see a commen link. | | The ones in my list are just a shortlist example.. | | Unknown wrote: | > In an effort to locate, try shutting down two at a time. Start with firefox | > and google. |
Guest Adrian Marsh Posted August 30, 2007 Posted August 30, 2007 Re: Random processes stealing 50% CPU Hi Ken, Can I ask what this actually proves? If I restart in safe mode, I probably won't be able to run half the programs anyway.. Adrian Ken Zhao [MSFT] wrote: > Hello Adrian, > > Thank you for using newsgroup! > > From your post, I suggest we first restart the computer in Safe Mode to see > if the problem also occurs in this mode. Safe Mode loads a minimally > protected-mode configuration, disabling Windows device drivers and using > the standard VGA display adapter. > > 1. Restart the computer. > 2. Keep pressing F8 key until the Windows Startup menu appears. > 3. Choose the Safe Mode with Network, and press Enter. > > Note: Some third party applications and hardware devices cannot be used > during Safe Mode. You will temporarily be unable to connect to the Internet > while in Safe Mode. > > Thanks & Regards, > > Ken Zhao > > Microsoft Online Support > Microsoft Global Technical Support Center > > Get Secure! - http://www.microsoft.com/security <http://www.microsoft.com/security> > ==================================================== > When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader so > that others may learn and benefit from your issue. > ==================================================== > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. > > > > > -------------------- > | Message-ID: <46D5E422.2090708@_removeme_ubiquisys.com> > | Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 22:24:50 +0100 > | From: "Adrian Marsh (NNTP)" <adrian.marsh@_removeme_ubiquisys.com> > | User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) > | MIME-Version: 1.0 > | Subject: Re: Random processes stealing 50% CPU > | References: <uxpDq0l6HHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl> > <EaiBi.7269$924.535@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net> > | In-Reply-To: <EaiBi.7269$924.535@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net> > | Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > | Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > | Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general > | NNTP-Posting-Host: 213-162-121-253.adrian080.adsl.metronet.co.uk > 213.162.121.253 > | Lines: 1 > | Path: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl > | Xref: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:118179 > | X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general > | > | Yeah.. thats what I try, but then the next one "takes over" the 50%.. so > | I kill that.. and it moves on.. Problem is I just can't see a commen link. > | > | The ones in my list are just a shortlist example.. > | > | Unknown wrote: > | > In an effort to locate, try shutting down two at a time. Start with > firefox > | > and google. > | >
Guest Unknown Posted August 30, 2007 Posted August 30, 2007 Re: Random processes stealing 50% CPU Have you tried running msconfig and removing all items from the start menu? Did you check the registry at HKEY-LOCAL-MACHINES\Software\Microsoft\windows\current version\run? "Adrian Marsh (NNTP)" <adrian.marsh@_removeme_ubiquisys.com> wrote in message news:O$Fb$Ko6HHA.4660@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > Theres definitely a performance impact on the machine.. Other procsses > halt for a few seconds..
Guest Ken Zhao [MSFT] Posted August 31, 2007 Posted August 31, 2007 Re: Random processes stealing 50% CPU Hello Adrian, Actually, more 3rd applications cannot start in Safe Mode. That will help us verify if the CPU usage issue occurs in a clean system mode. And then we can use msconfig to troubleshoot the root cause one by one. Thanks & Regards, Ken Zhao Microsoft Online Support Microsoft Global Technical Support Center Get Secure! - http://www.microsoft.com/security <http://www.microsoft.com/security> ==================================================== When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader so that others may learn and benefit from your issue. ==================================================== This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. -------------------- | Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 14:21:45 +0100 | From: Adrian Marsh <adrianmarsh@community.nospam> | User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) | MIME-Version: 1.0 | Subject: Re: Random processes stealing 50% CPU | References: <uxpDq0l6HHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl> <EaiBi.7269$924.535@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net> <46D5E422.2090708@_removeme_ubiquisys.com> <CH9VWbs6HHA.4200@TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl> | In-Reply-To: <CH9VWbs6HHA.4200@TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl> | Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed | Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit | Message-ID: <#Mwj3iw6HHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl> | Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general | NNTP-Posting-Host: office.ubiquisys.com 88.96.204.222 | Lines: 1 | Path: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl | Xref: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:118370 | X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general | | Hi Ken, | | Can I ask what this actually proves? If I restart in safe mode, I | probably won't be able to run half the programs anyway.. | | Adrian | | Ken Zhao [MSFT] wrote: | > Hello Adrian, | > | > Thank you for using newsgroup! | > | > From your post, I suggest we first restart the computer in Safe Mode to see | > if the problem also occurs in this mode. Safe Mode loads a minimally | > protected-mode configuration, disabling Windows device drivers and using | > the standard VGA display adapter. | > | > 1. Restart the computer. | > 2. Keep pressing F8 key until the Windows Startup menu appears. | > 3. Choose the Safe Mode with Network, and press Enter. | > | > Note: Some third party applications and hardware devices cannot be used | > during Safe Mode. You will temporarily be unable to connect to the Internet | > while in Safe Mode. | > | > Thanks & Regards, | > | > Ken Zhao | > | > Microsoft Online Support | > Microsoft Global Technical Support Center | > | > Get Secure! - http://www.microsoft.com/security <http://www.microsoft.com/security> | > ==================================================== | > When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader so | > that others may learn and benefit from your issue. | > ==================================================== | > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. | > | > | > | > | > -------------------- | > | Message-ID: <46D5E422.2090708@_removeme_ubiquisys.com> | > | Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 22:24:50 +0100 | > | From: "Adrian Marsh (NNTP)" <adrian.marsh@_removeme_ubiquisys.com> | > | User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) | > | MIME-Version: 1.0 | > | Subject: Re: Random processes stealing 50% CPU | > | References: <uxpDq0l6HHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl> | > <EaiBi.7269$924.535@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net> | > | In-Reply-To: <EaiBi.7269$924.535@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net> | > | Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 | > | Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit | > | Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general | > | NNTP-Posting-Host: 213-162-121-253.adrian080.adsl.metronet.co.uk | > 213.162.121.253 | > | Lines: 1 | > | Path: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl | > | Xref: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:118179 | > | X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general | > | | > | Yeah.. thats what I try, but then the next one "takes over" the 50%.. so | > | I kill that.. and it moves on.. Problem is I just can't see a commen link. | > | | > | The ones in my list are just a shortlist example.. | > | | > | Unknown wrote: | > | > In an effort to locate, try shutting down two at a time. Start with | > firefox | > | > and google. | > | | > |
Guest Adrian Marsh Posted August 31, 2007 Posted August 31, 2007 Re: Random processes stealing 50% CPU I've a current theory that its the Nvidia drivers causing problems. There was an update on the nvidia site that I've just upgraded to so I'm testing that now. I found a bunch of event messages this morning from Nvidia about other apps hanging (including those I've seen crash).. Will notify back to the group. Ken Zhao [MSFT] wrote: > Hello Adrian, > > Actually, more 3rd applications cannot start in Safe Mode. That will help > us verify if the CPU usage issue occurs in a clean system mode. And then we > can use msconfig to troubleshoot the root cause one by one. > > Thanks & Regards, > > Ken Zhao > > Microsoft Online Support > Microsoft Global Technical Support Center > > Get Secure! - http://www.microsoft.com/security <http://www.microsoft.com/security> > ==================================================== > When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader so > that others may learn and benefit from your issue. > ==================================================== > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. > > > > > > -------------------- > | Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 14:21:45 +0100 > | From: Adrian Marsh <adrianmarsh@community.nospam> > | User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) > | MIME-Version: 1.0 > | Subject: Re: Random processes stealing 50% CPU > | References: <uxpDq0l6HHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl> > <EaiBi.7269$924.535@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net> > <46D5E422.2090708@_removeme_ubiquisys.com> > <CH9VWbs6HHA.4200@TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl> > | In-Reply-To: <CH9VWbs6HHA.4200@TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl> > | Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > | Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > | Message-ID: <#Mwj3iw6HHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl> > | Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general > | NNTP-Posting-Host: office.ubiquisys.com 88.96.204.222 > | Lines: 1 > | Path: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl > | Xref: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:118370 > | X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general > | > | Hi Ken, > | > | Can I ask what this actually proves? If I restart in safe mode, I > | probably won't be able to run half the programs anyway.. > | > | Adrian > | > | Ken Zhao [MSFT] wrote: > | > Hello Adrian, > | > > | > Thank you for using newsgroup! > | > > | > From your post, I suggest we first restart the computer in Safe Mode to > see > | > if the problem also occurs in this mode. Safe Mode loads a minimally > | > protected-mode configuration, disabling Windows device drivers and > using > | > the standard VGA display adapter. > | > > | > 1. Restart the computer. > | > 2. Keep pressing F8 key until the Windows Startup menu appears. > | > 3. Choose the Safe Mode with Network, and press Enter. > | > > | > Note: Some third party applications and hardware devices cannot be used > | > during Safe Mode. You will temporarily be unable to connect to the > Internet > | > while in Safe Mode. > | > > | > Thanks & Regards, > | > > | > Ken Zhao > | > > | > Microsoft Online Support > | > Microsoft Global Technical Support Center > | > > | > Get Secure! - http://www.microsoft.com/security > <http://www.microsoft.com/security> > | > ==================================================== > | > When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader > so > | > that others may learn and benefit from your issue. > | > ==================================================== > | > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no > rights. > | > > | > > | > > | > > | > -------------------- > | > | Message-ID: <46D5E422.2090708@_removeme_ubiquisys.com> > | > | Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 22:24:50 +0100 > | > | From: "Adrian Marsh (NNTP)" <adrian.marsh@_removeme_ubiquisys.com> > | > | User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) > | > | MIME-Version: 1.0 > | > | Subject: Re: Random processes stealing 50% CPU > | > | References: <uxpDq0l6HHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl> > | > <EaiBi.7269$924.535@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net> > | > | In-Reply-To: <EaiBi.7269$924.535@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net> > | > | Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > | > | Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > | > | Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general > | > | NNTP-Posting-Host: 213-162-121-253.adrian080.adsl.metronet.co.uk > | > 213.162.121.253 > | > | Lines: 1 > | > | Path: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl > | > | Xref: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:118179 > | > | X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general > | > | > | > | Yeah.. thats what I try, but then the next one "takes over" the 50%.. > so > | > | I kill that.. and it moves on.. Problem is I just can't see a commen > link. > | > | > | > | The ones in my list are just a shortlist example.. > | > | > | > | Unknown wrote: > | > | > In an effort to locate, try shutting down two at a time. Start with > | > firefox > | > | > and google. > | > | > | > > | >
Guest Ken Zhao [MSFT] Posted September 3, 2007 Posted September 3, 2007 Re: Random processes stealing 50% CPU If you have any results, please feel free to post back. Ken Zhao Microsoft Online Support Microsoft Global Technical Support Center Get Secure! - http://www.microsoft.com/security <http://www.microsoft.com/security> ==================================================== When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader so that others may learn and benefit from your issue. ==================================================== This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. -------------------- | Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 11:45:14 +0100 | From: Adrian Marsh <adrianmarsh@community.nospam> | User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) | MIME-Version: 1.0 | Subject: Re: Random processes stealing 50% CPU | References: <uxpDq0l6HHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl> <EaiBi.7269$924.535@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net> <46D5E422.2090708@_removeme_ubiquisys.com> <CH9VWbs6HHA.4200@TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl> <#Mwj3iw6HHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl> <oYNLfE66HHA.5204@TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl> | In-Reply-To: <oYNLfE66HHA.5204@TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl> | Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed | Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit | Message-ID: <#RNfEw76HHA.3528@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl> | Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general | NNTP-Posting-Host: office.ubiquisys.com 88.96.204.222 | Lines: 1 | Path: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl | Xref: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:118704 | X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general | | I've a current theory that its the Nvidia drivers causing problems. | There was an update on the nvidia site that I've just upgraded to so I'm | testing that now. | | I found a bunch of event messages this morning from Nvidia about other | apps hanging (including those I've seen crash).. | | Will notify back to the group. | | Ken Zhao [MSFT] wrote: | > Hello Adrian, | > | > Actually, more 3rd applications cannot start in Safe Mode. That will help | > us verify if the CPU usage issue occurs in a clean system mode. And then we | > can use msconfig to troubleshoot the root cause one by one. | > | > Thanks & Regards, | > | > Ken Zhao | > | > Microsoft Online Support | > Microsoft Global Technical Support Center | > | > Get Secure! - http://www.microsoft.com/security <http://www.microsoft.com/security> | > ==================================================== | > When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader so | > that others may learn and benefit from your issue. | > ==================================================== | > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. | > | > | > | > | > | > -------------------- | > | Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 14:21:45 +0100 | > | From: Adrian Marsh <adrianmarsh@community.nospam> | > | User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) | > | MIME-Version: 1.0 | > | Subject: Re: Random processes stealing 50% CPU | > | References: <uxpDq0l6HHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl> | > <EaiBi.7269$924.535@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net> | > <46D5E422.2090708@_removeme_ubiquisys.com> | > <CH9VWbs6HHA.4200@TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl> | > | In-Reply-To: <CH9VWbs6HHA.4200@TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl> | > | Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed | > | Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit | > | Message-ID: <#Mwj3iw6HHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl> | > | Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general | > | NNTP-Posting-Host: office.ubiquisys.com 88.96.204.222 | > | Lines: 1 | > | Path: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl | > | Xref: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:118370 | > | X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general | > | | > | Hi Ken, | > | | > | Can I ask what this actually proves? If I restart in safe mode, I | > | probably won't be able to run half the programs anyway.. | > | | > | Adrian | > | | > | Ken Zhao [MSFT] wrote: | > | > Hello Adrian, | > | > | > | > Thank you for using newsgroup! | > | > | > | > From your post, I suggest we first restart the computer in Safe Mode to | > see | > | > if the problem also occurs in this mode. Safe Mode loads a minimally | > | > protected-mode configuration, disabling Windows device drivers and | > using | > | > the standard VGA display adapter. | > | > | > | > 1. Restart the computer. | > | > 2. Keep pressing F8 key until the Windows Startup menu appears. | > | > 3. Choose the Safe Mode with Network, and press Enter. | > | > | > | > Note: Some third party applications and hardware devices cannot be used | > | > during Safe Mode. You will temporarily be unable to connect to the | > Internet | > | > while in Safe Mode. | > | > | > | > Thanks & Regards, | > | > | > | > Ken Zhao | > | > | > | > Microsoft Online Support | > | > Microsoft Global Technical Support Center | > | > | > | > Get Secure! - http://www.microsoft.com/security | > <http://www.microsoft.com/security> | > | > ==================================================== | > | > When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader | > so | > | > that others may learn and benefit from your issue. | > | > ==================================================== | > | > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no | > rights. | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > -------------------- | > | > | Message-ID: <46D5E422.2090708@_removeme_ubiquisys.com> | > | > | Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 22:24:50 +0100 | > | > | From: "Adrian Marsh (NNTP)" <adrian.marsh@_removeme_ubiquisys.com> | > | > | User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) | > | > | MIME-Version: 1.0 | > | > | Subject: Re: Random processes stealing 50% CPU | > | > | References: <uxpDq0l6HHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl> | > | > <EaiBi.7269$924.535@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net> | > | > | In-Reply-To: <EaiBi.7269$924.535@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net> | > | > | Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 | > | > | Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit | > | > | Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general | > | > | NNTP-Posting-Host: 213-162-121-253.adrian080.adsl.metronet.co.uk | > | > 213.162.121.253 | > | > | Lines: 1 | > | > | Path: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl | > | > | Xref: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:118179 | > | > | X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general | > | > | | > | > | Yeah.. thats what I try, but then the next one "takes over" the 50%.. | > so | > | > | I kill that.. and it moves on.. Problem is I just can't see a commen | > link. | > | > | | > | > | The ones in my list are just a shortlist example.. | > | > | | > | > | Unknown wrote: | > | > | > In an effort to locate, try shutting down two at a time. Start with | > | > firefox | > | > | > and google. | > | > | | > | > | > | | > |
Guest Ken Zhao [MSFT] Posted September 6, 2007 Posted September 6, 2007 Re: Random processes stealing 50% CPU Hi, If you have any updates or need any further assistance on this issue, please feel free to let me know. Thanks & Regards, Ken Zhao Microsoft Online Support Microsoft Global Technical Support Center Get Secure! - http://www.microsoft.com/security <http://www.microsoft.com/security> ==================================================== When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader so that others may learn and benefit from your issue. ==================================================== This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. -------------------- | X-Tomcat-ID: 47126838 | References: <uxpDq0l6HHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl> <EaiBi.7269$924.535@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net> <46D5E422.2090708@_removeme_ubiquisys.com> <CH9VWbs6HHA.4200@TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl> <#Mwj3iw6HHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl> <oYNLfE66HHA.5204@TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl> <#RNfEw76HHA.3528@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl> | MIME-Version: 1.0 | Content-Type: text/plain | Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit | From: v-kzhao@online.microsoft.com ("Ken Zhao [MSFT]") | Organization: Microsoft | Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 04:43:13 GMT | Subject: Re: Random processes stealing 50% CPU | X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general | Message-ID: <#KWYyTe7HHA.4100@TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl> | Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general | Lines: 179 | Path: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl | Xref: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:119488 | NNTP-Posting-Host: tomcatimport2.phx.gbl 10.201.218.182 | | If you have any results, please feel free to post back. | | Ken Zhao | | Microsoft Online Support | Microsoft Global Technical Support Center | | Get Secure! - http://www.microsoft.com/security <http://www.microsoft.com/security> | ==================================================== | When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader so | that others may learn and benefit from your issue. | ==================================================== | This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. | | | | | -------------------- | | Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 11:45:14 +0100 | | From: Adrian Marsh <adrianmarsh@community.nospam> | | User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) | | MIME-Version: 1.0 | | Subject: Re: Random processes stealing 50% CPU | | References: <uxpDq0l6HHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl> | <EaiBi.7269$924.535@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net> | <46D5E422.2090708@_removeme_ubiquisys.com> | <CH9VWbs6HHA.4200@TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl> | <#Mwj3iw6HHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl> | <oYNLfE66HHA.5204@TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl> | | In-Reply-To: <oYNLfE66HHA.5204@TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl> | | Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed | | Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit | | Message-ID: <#RNfEw76HHA.3528@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl> | | Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general | | NNTP-Posting-Host: office.ubiquisys.com 88.96.204.222 | | Lines: 1 | | Path: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl | | Xref: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:118704 | | X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general | | | | I've a current theory that its the Nvidia drivers causing problems. | | There was an update on the nvidia site that I've just upgraded to so I'm | | testing that now. | | | | I found a bunch of event messages this morning from Nvidia about other | | apps hanging (including those I've seen crash).. | | | | Will notify back to the group. | | | | Ken Zhao [MSFT] wrote: | | > Hello Adrian, | | > | | > Actually, more 3rd applications cannot start in Safe Mode. That will | help | | > us verify if the CPU usage issue occurs in a clean system mode. And | then we | | > can use msconfig to troubleshoot the root cause one by one. | | > | | > Thanks & Regards, | | > | | > Ken Zhao | | > | | > Microsoft Online Support | | > Microsoft Global Technical Support Center | | > | | > Get Secure! - http://www.microsoft.com/security | <http://www.microsoft.com/security> | | > ==================================================== | | > When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader | so | | > that others may learn and benefit from your issue. | | > ==================================================== | | > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no | rights. | | > | | > | | > | | > | | > | | > -------------------- | | > | Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 14:21:45 +0100 | | > | From: Adrian Marsh <adrianmarsh@community.nospam> | | > | User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) | | > | MIME-Version: 1.0 | | > | Subject: Re: Random processes stealing 50% CPU | | > | References: <uxpDq0l6HHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl> | | > <EaiBi.7269$924.535@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net> | | > <46D5E422.2090708@_removeme_ubiquisys.com> | | > <CH9VWbs6HHA.4200@TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl> | | > | In-Reply-To: <CH9VWbs6HHA.4200@TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl> | | > | Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed | | > | Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit | | > | Message-ID: <#Mwj3iw6HHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl> | | > | Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general | | > | NNTP-Posting-Host: office.ubiquisys.com 88.96.204.222 | | > | Lines: 1 | | > | Path: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl | | > | Xref: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:118370 | | > | X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general | | > | | | > | Hi Ken, | | > | | | > | Can I ask what this actually proves? If I restart in safe mode, I | | > | probably won't be able to run half the programs anyway.. | | > | | | > | Adrian | | > | | | > | Ken Zhao [MSFT] wrote: | | > | > Hello Adrian, | | > | > | | > | > Thank you for using newsgroup! | | > | > | | > | > From your post, I suggest we first restart the computer in Safe | Mode to | | > see | | > | > if the problem also occurs in this mode. Safe Mode loads a | minimally | | > | > protected-mode configuration, disabling Windows device drivers and | | > using | | > | > the standard VGA display adapter. | | > | > | | > | > 1. Restart the computer. | | > | > 2. Keep pressing F8 key until the Windows Startup menu appears. | | > | > 3. Choose the Safe Mode with Network, and press Enter. | | > | > | | > | > Note: Some third party applications and hardware devices cannot be | used | | > | > during Safe Mode. You will temporarily be unable to connect to the | | > Internet | | > | > while in Safe Mode. | | > | > | | > | > Thanks & Regards, | | > | > | | > | > Ken Zhao | | > | > | | > | > Microsoft Online Support | | > | > Microsoft Global Technical Support Center | | > | > | | > | > Get Secure! - http://www.microsoft.com/security | | > <http://www.microsoft.com/security> | | > | > ==================================================== | | > | > When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your | newsreader | | > so | | > | > that others may learn and benefit from your issue. | | > | > ==================================================== | | > | > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no | | > rights. | | > | > | | > | > | | > | > | | > | > | | > | > -------------------- | | > | > | Message-ID: <46D5E422.2090708@_removeme_ubiquisys.com> | | > | > | Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 22:24:50 +0100 | | > | > | From: "Adrian Marsh (NNTP)" <adrian.marsh@_removeme_ubiquisys.com> | | > | > | User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) | | > | > | MIME-Version: 1.0 | | > | > | Subject: Re: Random processes stealing 50% CPU | | > | > | References: <uxpDq0l6HHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl> | | > | > <EaiBi.7269$924.535@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net> | | > | > | In-Reply-To: <EaiBi.7269$924.535@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net> | | > | > | Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 | | > | > | Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit | | > | > | Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general | | > | > | NNTP-Posting-Host: 213-162-121-253.adrian080.adsl.metronet.co.uk | | > | > 213.162.121.253 | | > | > | Lines: 1 | | > | > | Path: | TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl | | > | > | Xref: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl | microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:118179 | | > | > | X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general | | > | > | | | > | > | Yeah.. thats what I try, but then the next one "takes over" the | 50%.. | | > so | | > | > | I kill that.. and it moves on.. Problem is I just can't see a | commen | | > link. | | > | > | | | > | > | The ones in my list are just a shortlist example.. | | > | > | | | > | > | Unknown wrote: | | > | > | > In an effort to locate, try shutting down two at a time. Start | with | | > | > firefox | | > | > | > and google. | | > | > | | | > | > | | > | | | > | | | |
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