Backup for Desktop and laptops

[Guest MarcusB]

We want to implement easy backup for our users loging to our domain from

laptops and desktops.

We was trying Symantec BackupExec with DLO option but it is not what we

looking for exactly. We want that backup will copy files from some

folders on laptops to the share on file server in their original form,

thus we can recover files and backup them later manually without any

extra software.

It will be great if some of you know any software wchich can do the job.

 

/Marcus

[Guest Danny Sanders]

Re: Backup for Desktop and laptops

 

Best practice is to create a share on a file server for each user and then

train them to open from that share and save to that share. Then backup the

file server nightly.

 

This way you only need a license for backup software for the server not

every laptop and desktop on the network.

 

 

hth

DDS

 

"MarcusB" <marcusb@llunet.se> wrote in message

news:uRigRZ76HHA.4348@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> We want to implement easy backup for our users loging to our domain from

> laptops and desktops.

> We was trying Symantec BackupExec with DLO option but it is not what we

> looking for exactly. We want that backup will copy files from some folders

> on laptops to the share on file server in their original form, thus we can

> recover files and backup them later manually without any extra software.

> It will be great if some of you know any software wchich can do the job.

>

> /Marcus

[Guest MarcusB]

Re: Backup for Desktop and laptops

 

The problem is that not all users are so good in it and many of them use

computers offline home thus they need to save file locally.

I need some software which can do the things in the background.

So far we was using Syncback for synchronizing folders on laptops and

server and robocopy. But I want software with client - server with local

agents and in real time. Whenever file will change agent will copy it to

the server.

 

 

 

/Marcus

 

Danny Sanders wrote:

> Best practice is to create a share on a file server for each user and then

> train them to open from that share and save to that share. Then backup the

> file server nightly.

>

> This way you only need a license for backup software for the server not

> every laptop and desktop on the network.

>

>

> hth

> DDS

>

> "MarcusB" <marcusb@llunet.se> wrote in message

> news:uRigRZ76HHA.4348@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> We want to implement easy backup for our users loging to our domain from

>> laptops and desktops.

>> We was trying Symantec BackupExec with DLO option but it is not what we

>> looking for exactly. We want that backup will copy files from some folders

>> on laptops to the share on file server in their original form, thus we can

>> recover files and backup them later manually without any extra software.

>> It will be great if some of you know any software wchich can do the job.

>>

>> /Marcus

>

>

[Guest Danny Sanders]

Re: Backup for Desktop and laptops

 

> The problem is that not all users are so good in it

 

You know your users better than I do, but I've found that most users can

learn this one simple step of saving files to the server.

 

 

many of them use

> computers offline home thus they need to save file locally.

> I need some software which can do the things in the background.

 

Offline files is the answer to laptop users. When out of the office they

have access to their files. When they reconnect to the network the laptop

replicates the changes to the server. Before they log off it replicates the

files again. This is free.

See:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/900701/en-us

 

 

But if you want to spend the money, just Google laptop backup. Tons of

companies provide this.

 

hth

DDS

 

 

 

 

"MarcusB" <marcusb@llunet.se> wrote in message

news:%23sJzEF%236HHA.980@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> The problem is that not all users are so good in it and many of them use

> computers offline home thus they need to save file locally.

> I need some software which can do the things in the background.

> So far we was using Syncback for synchronizing folders on laptops and

> server and robocopy. But I want software with client - server with local

> agents and in real time. Whenever file will change agent will copy it to

> the server.

>

>

>

> /Marcus

>

> Danny Sanders wrote:

>> Best practice is to create a share on a file server for each user and

>> then train them to open from that share and save to that share. Then

>> backup the file server nightly.

>>

>> This way you only need a license for backup software for the server not

>> every laptop and desktop on the network.

>>

>>

>> hth

>> DDS

>>

>> "MarcusB" <marcusb@llunet.se> wrote in message

>> news:uRigRZ76HHA.4348@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>> We want to implement easy backup for our users loging to our domain from

>>> laptops and desktops.

>>> We was trying Symantec BackupExec with DLO option but it is not what we

>>> looking for exactly. We want that backup will copy files from some

>>> folders on laptops to the share on file server in their original form,

>>> thus we can recover files and backup them later manually without any

>>> extra software.

>>> It will be great if some of you know any software wchich can do the job.

>>>

>>> /Marcus

>>

[Guest MarcusB]

Re: Backup for Desktop and laptops

 

We already bought Symantec with DLO but it do not meet our expectation.

We need simple realitime file copying after they change, with central

managament and agents on all clients.

 

 

/Marcus

Danny Sanders wrote:

>> The problem is that not all users are so good in it

>

> You know your users better than I do, but I've found that most users can

> learn this one simple step of saving files to the server.

>

>

> many of them use

>> computers offline home thus they need to save file locally.

>> I need some software which can do the things in the background.

>

> Offline files is the answer to laptop users. When out of the office they

> have access to their files. When they reconnect to the network the laptop

> replicates the changes to the server. Before they log off it replicates the

> files again. This is free.

> See:

> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/900701/en-us

>

>

> But if you want to spend the money, just Google laptop backup. Tons of

> companies provide this.

>

> hth

> DDS

>

>

>

>

> "MarcusB" <marcusb@llunet.se> wrote in message

> news:%23sJzEF%236HHA.980@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> The problem is that not all users are so good in it and many of them use

>> computers offline home thus they need to save file locally.

>> I need some software which can do the things in the background.

>> So far we was using Syncback for synchronizing folders on laptops and

>> server and robocopy. But I want software with client - server with local

>> agents and in real time. Whenever file will change agent will copy it to

>> the server.

>>

>>

>>

>> /Marcus

>>

>> Danny Sanders wrote:

>>> Best practice is to create a share on a file server for each user and

>>> then train them to open from that share and save to that share. Then

>>> backup the file server nightly.

>>>

>>> This way you only need a license for backup software for the server not

>>> every laptop and desktop on the network.

>>>

>>>

>>> hth

>>> DDS

>>>

>>> "MarcusB" <marcusb@llunet.se> wrote in message

>>> news:uRigRZ76HHA.4348@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>> We want to implement easy backup for our users loging to our domain from

>>>> laptops and desktops.

>>>> We was trying Symantec BackupExec with DLO option but it is not what we

>>>> looking for exactly. We want that backup will copy files from some

>>>> folders on laptops to the share on file server in their original form,

>>>> thus we can recover files and backup them later manually without any

>>>> extra software.

>>>> It will be great if some of you know any software wchich can do the job.

>>>>

>>>> /Marcus

>

[Guest vidguide2@gmail.com]

Re: Backup for Desktop and laptops

 

On Sep 3, 7:16 pm, MarcusB <marc...@llunet.se> wrote:

> We already bought Symantec with DLO but it do not meet our expectation.

> We need simple realitime file copying after they change, with central

> managament and agents on all clients.

>

> /Marcus

>

>

>

> Danny Sanders wrote:

> >> The problem is that not all users are so good in it

>

> > You know your users better than I do, but I've found that most users can

> > learn this one simple step of saving files to the server.

>

> > many of them use

> >> computers offline home thus they need to save file locally.

> >> I need some software which can do the things in the background.

>

> > Offline files is the answer to laptop users. When out of the office they

> > have access to their files. When they reconnect to the network the laptop

> > replicates the changes to the server. Before they log off it replicates the

> > files again. This is free.

> > See:

> >http://support.microsoft.com/kb/900701/en-us

>

> > But if you want to spend the money, just Google laptop backup. Tons of

> > companies provide this.

>

> > hth

> > DDS

>

> > "MarcusB" <marc...@llunet.se> wrote in message

> >news:%23sJzEF%236HHA.980@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> >> The problem is that not all users are so good in it and many of them use

> >> computers offline home thus they need to save file locally.

> >> I need some software which can do the things in the background.

> >> So far we was using Syncback for synchronizing folders on laptops and

> >> server and robocopy. But I want software with client - server with local

> >> agents and in real time. Whenever file will change agent will copy it to

> >> the server.

>

> >> /Marcus

>

> >> Danny Sanders wrote:

> >>> Best practice is to create a share on a file server for each user and

> >>> then train them to open from that share and save to that share. Then

> >>> backup the file server nightly.

>

> >>> This way you only need a license for backup software for the server not

> >>> every laptop and desktop on the network.

>

> >>> hth

> >>> DDS

>

> >>> "MarcusB" <marc...@llunet.se> wrote in message

> >>>news:uRigRZ76HHA.4348@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> >>>> We want to implement easy backup for our users loging to our domain from

> >>>> laptops and desktops.

> >>>> We was trying Symantec BackupExec with DLO option but it is not what we

> >>>> looking for exactly. We want that backup will copy files from some

> >>>> folders on laptops to the share on file server in their original form,

> >>>> thus we can recover files and backup them later manually without any

> >>>> extra software.n

> >>>> It will be great if some of you know any software wchich can do the job.

>

> >>>> /Marcus- Hide quoted text -

>

> - Show quoted text -

 

DLO can recreate the files and structure in a perfectly useable form

if you turn off compression and encryption. I believe you also need to

disable Version control.

 

mind you, you say its for simple recovery, DLO does provide a very

simple recovery option that infact can be pushed out from the server.

This is especially useful for a laptop user, they can call in from a

remotely location, and as long as they are on the VPN, you can push

the recovered file to them as needed.

 

DLO will also do immediate/live file updating if you use the "Whenever

a file changes" option. upgrade any machiens are that arnt currently

NTFS to use NTFS, and this option will work flawlessly.

[Guest jott]

Re: Backup for Desktop and laptops

 

 

Have you had success with recreating Symantec DLO files and folders on

the server in a readable form?

 

I am trying the same thing on DLO (version 11d). I set up a test backup

selection with compression, encryption, and delta file transfer turned

off, and revision control set to 1 revision in the network user data

folder and 0 revisions in the desktop user data folder. I’ve found that

even with these settings, DLO still adds a string (e.g.,

[00g078jB2udkH7000000gE]) in front of each file name stored on the

server, and it also adds a string of extended characters to the

beginning of each file’s contents.

 

Symantec’s support team did not think it was possible to do this, so if

you know of any settings I can change to accomplish what was discussed

in this message thread, I would really appreciate any insight you have!

Thanks in advance.

 

vidguide2@gmail.com;3135810 Wrote:

>

> DLO can recreate the files and structure in a perfectly useable form

> if you turn off compression and encryption. I believe you also need to

> disable Version control.

>

> mind you, you say its for simple recovery, DLO does provide a very

> simple recovery option that infact can be pushed out from the server.

> This is especially useful for a laptop user, they can call in from a

> remotely location, and as long as they are on the VPN, you can push

> the recovered file to them as needed.

>

> DLO will also do immediate/live file updating if you use the "Whenever

> a file changes" option. upgrade any machiens are that arnt currently

> NTFS to use NTFS, and this option will work flawlessly.

 

 

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