Guest John Posted September 1, 2007 Posted September 1, 2007 Hi xp is on my primary sata disk and on my secondary sata disk there is a separate install of vista. So if I disable the primary (xp) disk in setup then vista boots from secondary disk. Can I make it easy to boot vista as needed by adding a vista entry in my xp boot.ini? If yes, what would be the entry considering the vista is on secondary (disk1?) drive and in first partition? Thanks Regards
Guest John Barnett MVP Posted September 1, 2007 Posted September 1, 2007 Re: Booting vista alongside xp Check this link from my website: http://vistasupport.mvps.org/install_windows_xp_on_machine_running_vista.htm I know you already have XP on drive 0. What you need to do is pay attention to the section marked VistaBootPro in the above linked article. -- John Barnett MVP Associate Expert Windows - Shell/User Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this mail/post.. "John" <John@nospam.infovis.co.uk> wrote in message news:eTdQ7dJ7HHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > Hi > > xp is on my primary sata disk and on my secondary sata disk there is a > separate install of vista. So if I disable the primary (xp) disk in setup > then vista boots from secondary disk. Can I make it easy to boot vista as > needed by adding a vista entry in my xp boot.ini? If yes, what would be > the entry considering the vista is on secondary (disk1?) drive and in > first partition? > > Thanks > > Regards
Guest John Posted September 1, 2007 Posted September 1, 2007 Re: Booting vista alongside xp I booted into xp drive, ran VistaBootPro and selected to install Vista Boot loader on disk C: (xp drive). On reboot it comes up with the following; Windows failed to start...insert system disk and select repair... File: \Boot\BCD Error: 0x0000000f Info: An error occurred while attempting to read the boot configuration data. Any ideas? Just to be clear, which disk (primary or secondary) should be xp and vista as they are both on separate physical disks. Under which OS (xp or vista) would I run VistaBootPro ? Which disk/drive I should select to install vista boot loader? Thanks Regards "John Barnett MVP" <freelanceit@mvps.org.NOSPAM> wrote in message news:e64fbBK7HHA.5424@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > Check this link from my website: > http://vistasupport.mvps.org/install_windows_xp_on_machine_running_vista.htm > > I know you already have XP on drive 0. What you need to do is pay > attention to the section marked VistaBootPro in the above linked article. > > -- > John Barnett MVP > Associate Expert > Windows - Shell/User > > Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org > Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org > > The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any > kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, > reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable > for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out > of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in > this mail/post.. > > "John" <John@nospam.infovis.co.uk> wrote in message > news:eTdQ7dJ7HHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> Hi >> >> xp is on my primary sata disk and on my secondary sata disk there is a >> separate install of vista. So if I disable the primary (xp) disk in setup >> then vista boots from secondary disk. Can I make it easy to boot vista as >> needed by adding a vista entry in my xp boot.ini? If yes, what would be >> the entry considering the vista is on secondary (disk1?) drive and in >> first partition? >> >> Thanks >> >> Regards >
Guest John Barnett MVP Posted September 1, 2007 Posted September 1, 2007 Re: Booting vista alongside xp Hi John, The boot options should be on drive C: This drive would be the primary drive. With past versions of Windows one would install the 'oldest' operating system first, followed by the newest. With Vista this is not necessary. You can install Vista on C: and then installed XP on D (or XP on C: and Vista on D:) it doesn't really matter. What 'does' matter is that the boot option files are located on the C: drive. You will need to unhide the system files so go to Windows Explorer and click the Organize button. From the menu click the Folder and Search options. In the folder options window, Click the View tab. Look for the hidden files and folders section and click the radio button next to the 'show hidden files and folders', then remove the check mark from the 'hide protected operating system files (recommended)' A warning message will appear; just click OK to close the message. Finally Click OK on the Folder options window. In Windows Explorer scroll down to Computer and click on it to expand the list. Now click on the C: drive. Look for the following file: Bootmgr If the file is there then the boot files are where they should be. If it isn't there, then check the contents of your second hard drive. If the bootmgr file is on the second hard drive then we have a problem. I regularly dual booted with XP and Vista but one of the downsides is that, when you boot to XP, XP deletes all system restore files and shadow copies from the Vista drive. Now I use virtual machine software and run XP from a virtual machine within windows Vista (problem is you need plenty of memory to run both systems and you can't use VMs on Home Basic or Home Premium. They can only legally be used on Vista Business and Ultimate - see the Microsoft End user Licence Agreement) During the time i dual booted I put XP on my C: drive and Vista on my D: drive. This was fine. However, when I wanted to get rid of XP I installed Vista on my C: drive, but the boot files defaulted to my D: drive. I never found a solution to that problem, hence the virtual machine. I even removed my second drive and re-installed Vista to my primary C: drive. When this was done all the boot files were on C: When I re-installed my second drive and installed XP I had no access to XP, so I used the Vista DVD to do a startup recovery. Once that was done, I was back to square one, the boot files were put back on the second hard drive, not the primary one. -- John Barnett MVP Associate Expert Windows - Shell/User Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this mail/post.. "John" <John@nospam.infovis.co.uk> wrote in message news:%23RaNGaK7HHA.5980@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >I booted into xp drive, ran VistaBootPro and selected to install Vista Boot >loader on disk C: (xp drive). On reboot it comes up with the following; > > Windows failed to start...insert system disk and select repair... > > File: \Boot\BCD > > Error: 0x0000000f > > Info: An error occurred while attempting to read the boot configuration > data. > > Any ideas? Just to be clear, which disk (primary or secondary) should be > xp and vista as they are both on separate physical disks. Under which OS > (xp or vista) would I run VistaBootPro ? Which disk/drive I should select > to install vista boot loader? > > Thanks > > Regards > > "John Barnett MVP" <freelanceit@mvps.org.NOSPAM> wrote in message > news:e64fbBK7HHA.5424@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> Check this link from my website: >> http://vistasupport.mvps.org/install_windows_xp_on_machine_running_vista.htm >> >> I know you already have XP on drive 0. What you need to do is pay >> attention to the section marked VistaBootPro in the above linked article. >> >> -- >> John Barnett MVP >> Associate Expert >> Windows - Shell/User >> >> Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org >> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org >> >> The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any >> kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, >> reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable >> for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out >> of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in >> this mail/post.. >> >> "John" <John@nospam.infovis.co.uk> wrote in message >> news:eTdQ7dJ7HHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>> Hi >>> >>> xp is on my primary sata disk and on my secondary sata disk there is a >>> separate install of vista. So if I disable the primary (xp) disk in >>> setup then vista boots from secondary disk. Can I make it easy to boot >>> vista as needed by adding a vista entry in my xp boot.ini? If yes, what >>> would be the entry considering the vista is on secondary (disk1?) drive >>> and in first partition? >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Regards >> >
Guest John Barnett MVP Posted September 1, 2007 Posted September 1, 2007 Re: Booting vista alongside xp John, On checking VistaBootPro there is an option, under system boot loader, to install the boot loader to a specific drive. You might try that in case the boot loader had been installed on your second drive. As for which OS to install VistaBootPro to, the best bet would be XP which, from what I gather, is what you have already done. -- John Barnett MVP Associate Expert Windows - Shell/User Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this mail/post.. "John" <John@nospam.infovis.co.uk> wrote in message news:%23RaNGaK7HHA.5980@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >I booted into xp drive, ran VistaBootPro and selected to install Vista Boot >loader on disk C: (xp drive). On reboot it comes up with the following; > > Windows failed to start...insert system disk and select repair... > > File: \Boot\BCD > > Error: 0x0000000f > > Info: An error occurred while attempting to read the boot configuration > data. > > Any ideas? Just to be clear, which disk (primary or secondary) should be > xp and vista as they are both on separate physical disks. Under which OS > (xp or vista) would I run VistaBootPro ? Which disk/drive I should select > to install vista boot loader? > > Thanks > > Regards > > "John Barnett MVP" <freelanceit@mvps.org.NOSPAM> wrote in message > news:e64fbBK7HHA.5424@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> Check this link from my website: >> http://vistasupport.mvps.org/install_windows_xp_on_machine_running_vista.htm >> >> I know you already have XP on drive 0. What you need to do is pay >> attention to the section marked VistaBootPro in the above linked article. >> >> -- >> John Barnett MVP >> Associate Expert >> Windows - Shell/User >> >> Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org >> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org >> >> The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any >> kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, >> reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable >> for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out >> of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in >> this mail/post.. >> >> "John" <John@nospam.infovis.co.uk> wrote in message >> news:eTdQ7dJ7HHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>> Hi >>> >>> xp is on my primary sata disk and on my secondary sata disk there is a >>> separate install of vista. So if I disable the primary (xp) disk in >>> setup then vista boots from secondary disk. Can I make it easy to boot >>> vista as needed by adding a vista entry in my xp boot.ini? If yes, what >>> would be the entry considering the vista is on secondary (disk1?) drive >>> and in first partition? >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Regards >> >
Guest Timothy Daniels Posted September 2, 2007 Posted September 2, 2007 Re: Booting vista alongside xp "John Barnett MVP" wrote: > The boot options should be on drive C: This drive would be the primary drive. > With past versions of Windows one would install the 'oldest' operating system > first, followed by the newest. With Vista this is not necessary. You can > install Vista on C: and then installed XP on D (or XP on C: and Vista on D:) > it doesn't really matter. What 'does' matter is that the boot option files are > located on the C: drive. Does it really matter that the "drive", i.e. logical disk/partition, is named "C:"? Or must the boot files be on the "active" primary partition of the hard drive that is at the head of the Hard Drive Boot Order? (The latter is the case for WinXP.) In the simplest of cases in which there is only one HD and the OS was installed on the first partition available, that partition would be called "C:" and it would contain the boot files. But *must* Vista's boot files be on a partition of that name if there are more than one partition in the system and more than one OS? (For WinXP, the answer would be "No".) *TimDaniels*
Guest Paul Randall Posted September 3, 2007 Posted September 3, 2007 Re: Booting vista alongside xp Hi, John Barnett I think there is a different problem. I think the following implies that XP runs fine installed on C: drive: >>>> xp is on my primary sata disk ... I think the following implies that Vista runs fine installed on a different C: drive: >>>> ... and on my secondary sata disk there is a separate install of vista. >>>> So if I disable the primary (xp) disk in setup then vista boots from >>>> secondary disk. So both OS's registries have a bunch of file paths that reference C: drive and are supposed to point to files on the same drive the OS is installed on. If neither drive is disabled, then one of them cannot be drive C:. Only a boot manager that disables one drive or the other can enable dual booting, unless the OP reinstalls one of the OSs on a drive with some other drive letter. What do you think? -Paul Randall "John Barnett MVP" <freelanceit@mvps.org.NOSPAM> wrote in message news:eabf9jM7HHA.5096@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > Hi John, > > The boot options should be on drive C: This drive would be the primary > drive. With past versions of Windows one would install the 'oldest' > operating system first, followed by the newest. With Vista this is not > necessary. You can install Vista on C: and then installed XP on D (or XP > on C: and Vista on D:) it doesn't really matter. What 'does' matter is > that the boot option files are located on the C: drive. > > You will need to unhide the system files so go to Windows Explorer and > click the Organize button. From the menu click the Folder and Search > options. In the folder options window, Click the View tab. Look for the > hidden files and folders section and click the radio button next to the > 'show hidden files and folders', then remove the check mark from the 'hide > protected operating system files (recommended)' A warning message will > appear; just click OK to close the message. Finally Click OK on the > Folder options window. > > In Windows Explorer scroll down to Computer and click on it to expand the > list. Now click on the C: drive. Look for the following file: > > Bootmgr > > If the file is there then the boot files are where they should be. If it > isn't there, then check the contents of your second hard drive. If the > bootmgr file is on the second hard drive then we have a problem. > > I regularly dual booted with XP and Vista but one of the downsides is > that, when you boot to XP, XP deletes all system restore files and shadow > copies from the Vista drive. Now I use virtual machine software and run XP > from a virtual machine within windows Vista (problem is you need plenty of > memory to run both systems and you can't use VMs on Home Basic or Home > Premium. They can only legally be used on Vista Business and Ultimate - > see the Microsoft End user Licence Agreement) > > During the time i dual booted I put XP on my C: drive and Vista on my D: > drive. This was fine. However, when I wanted to get rid of XP I installed > Vista on my C: drive, but the boot files defaulted to my D: drive. I never > found a solution to that problem, hence the virtual machine. I even > removed my second drive and re-installed Vista to my primary C: drive. > When this was done all the boot files were on C: When I re-installed my > second drive and installed XP I had no access to XP, so I used the Vista > DVD to do a startup recovery. Once that was done, I was back to square > one, the boot files were put back on the second hard drive, not the > primary one. > > > -- > John Barnett MVP > Associate Expert > Windows - Shell/User > > Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org > Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org > > The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any > kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, > reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable > for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out > of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in > this mail/post.. >>> "John" <John@nospam.infovis.co.uk> wrote in message >>> news:eTdQ7dJ7HHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>> Hi >>>> >>>> xp is on my primary sata disk and on my secondary sata disk there is a >>>> separate install of vista. So if I disable the primary (xp) disk in >>>> setup then vista boots from secondary disk. Can I make it easy to boot >>>> vista as needed by adding a vista entry in my xp boot.ini? If yes, what >>>> would be the entry considering the vista is on secondary (disk1?) drive >>>> and in first partition?
Guest Timothy Daniels Posted September 3, 2007 Posted September 3, 2007 Re: Booting vista alongside xp If there are no shortcuts in either OS's partition that points to files in another partition, it doesn't matter *what* the RUNNING operating system calls its own partition. To be explicit, if Vista calls its own partition "C:" when it is running and calls WinXP's partition "D:", it matters not a whit that WinXP calls its own partition "C:" when it is running and calls Vista's partition "D:". So if there are no shortcuts that reference another partition, each running OS can be allowed to "see" the partition of the non-running OS without any problems. This happens all the time, BTW, when you clone a partition containing an OS, and it doesn't hurt anything. *TimDaniels* "Paul Randall" wrote: > Hi, John Barnett > I think there is a different problem. > > I think the following implies that XP runs fine installed on C: drive: >>>>> xp is on my primary sata disk ... > > I think the following implies that Vista runs fine installed on a different C: > drive: >>>>> ... and on my secondary sata disk there is a separate install of vista. So >>>>> if I disable the primary (xp) disk in setup then vista boots from >>>>> secondary disk. > > So both OS's registries have a bunch of file paths that reference C: drive and > are supposed to point to files on the same drive the OS is installed on. > > If neither drive is disabled, then one of them cannot be drive C:. Only a > boot manager that disables one drive or the other can enable dual booting, > unless the OP reinstalls one of the OSs on a drive with some other drive > letter. > > What do you think? > > -Paul Randall
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