Re: Moving My Pictures - Mike M

September 5, 2007

Re: Moving My Pictures - Mike M

Hi Mike

I finally decided I really need to have My Pictures living on my desktop,

but before TweakUI will do the deed it pops up this scary warning:

"Carelessly changing a special folder may render your system unusable.

For example, don't set two special folders equal to each other, or set a

special folder equal to a system folder like the Fonts folder.

Continue changing special folders?"

If I move the My Pictures folder to the desktop it will then reside: inside

the Desktop folder, which is inside the Windows folder, which is inside the

C: folder; instead of where it is now: inside the My Documents folder which

is inside the C: folder.

Will making my proposed move have the effect of setting it "equal" to any

other system folder?? I must admit I haven't a clue what this means!

Also (and I see now Dapper Dan is grappling with this issue too):

"Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message

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> > --moving My Pictures to the desktop where it would be subject to

> > ravaging by System Restore

>

> Whilst storing files in a location other than My Documents (and a few

> other places including Temp and TIF) does mean that System Restore will

> monitor the contents of the folder remember that SR has no interest in any

> graphics or media files such as those with jpg, bmp, tif, gif or png

> extensions. If you want to know which file extensions are monitored by SR

> then have a look at the <EXTENSIONS> <Include> section of the file

> filelist.xml located at C:Windows\System\Restore (you can open it using

> notepad). You will find that SR has no interest is the vast majority of

> user data files and can, if necessary, be easily modified to exclude any

> specific file type that a user needs to exclude. Details available of how

> to so do if required.

During the one SysRes I've done since I reinstalled Me on 8/8 (to purge a

Powertoy I installed that messed up in spite of an assurance promising

Me compatibility), I watched shortcuts disappear off my desktop and some

I'd deleted reappear. After the reboot I opened the desktop folder where

I'd stashed freshly downloaded new versions of some favorite programs and

discovered them missing. So SR routed out some of my personal files, thus

my original concern about SR and moving My Pictures to the desktop. At the

bottom of SR's "filelist.xml" in the category named <include> I find two of

my image file extensions--PSP, TUB;--as well as EOT, TTF, and LNK. Can I

use Notepad to edit that file and remove these "includes"?

Even if so, I intend to schedule SmartSync Pro to backup certain folders at

my nightly shutdown--and My Pictures will definitely be one of them!

Thanks SO muchly for your help :-)

carol

September 5, 2007

Re: Moving My Pictures - Mike M

Re: Moving My Pictures - Mike M

Two objects being the same would be if, for example you chose to make the

My Documents object "C:\Data" and the My Pictures object also "C:\Data".

Having My Pictures point to C:\Windows\Desktop\Pictures is not a problem

if the Desktop is C:\Windows\Desktop. This is no different to the default

of My Pictures being within My Documents (C:\My Documents and C:\My

Documents\My Pictures). If you then wanted to exclude the Desktop and any

folders placed there from System Restore that would take another five

minutes and require a second to get the details of how to do this post

although this isn't really necessary since system restore has no interest

in your data files such as photographs and graphics..

> Also (and I see now Dapper Dan is grappling with this issue too):

Does he? I wasn't aware that you were having an issue let alone Dan. You

asked about moving My Pictures out of My Documents on 17 August and I

explained what you had to do. You then digressed and talked about the

limitations of your graphics software and its open dialogue.

--

Mike Maltby

mike.maltby@gmail.com

caroloyl <caroloyl@gmail-expungethis.com> wrote:

> Hi Mike

>

> I finally decided I really need to have My Pictures living on my

> desktop, but before TweakUI will do the deed it pops up this scary

> warning:

>

> "Carelessly changing a special folder may render your system unusable.

> For example, don't set two special folders equal to each other, or

> set a special folder equal to a system folder like the Fonts folder.

> Continue changing special folders?"

>

> If I move the My Pictures folder to the desktop it will then reside:

> inside the Desktop folder, which is inside the Windows folder, which

> is inside the C: folder; instead of where it is now: inside the My

> Documents folder which is inside the C: folder.

>

> Will making my proposed move have the effect of setting it "equal" to

> any other system folder?? I must admit I haven't a clue what this

> means!

>

> Also (and I see now Dapper Dan is grappling with this issue too):

September 5, 2007

Re: Moving My Pictures - Mike M

Re: Moving My Pictures - Mike M

No issue with me. I think it was the explanation of what file associations

are protected by SR.

Dan

"Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message

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> Two objects being the same would be if, for example you chose to make the

> My Documents object "C:\Data" and the My Pictures object also "C:\Data".

> Having My Pictures point to C:\Windows\Desktop\Pictures is not a problem

> if the Desktop is C:\Windows\Desktop. This is no different to the default

> of My Pictures being within My Documents (C:\My Documents and C:\My

> Documents\My Pictures). If you then wanted to exclude the Desktop and any

> folders placed there from System Restore that would take another five

> minutes and require a second to get the details of how to do this post

> although this isn't really necessary since system restore has no interest

> in your data files such as photographs and graphics..

>

>> Also (and I see now Dapper Dan is grappling with this issue too):

>

> Does he? I wasn't aware that you were having an issue let alone Dan. You

> asked about moving My Pictures out of My Documents on 17 August and I

> explained what you had to do. You then digressed and talked about the

> limitations of your graphics software and its open dialogue.

> --

> Mike Maltby

> mike.maltby@gmail.com

>

> caroloyl <caroloyl@gmail-expungethis.com> wrote:

>

>> Hi Mike

>>

>> I finally decided I really need to have My Pictures living on my

>> desktop, but before TweakUI will do the deed it pops up this scary

>> warning:

>>

>> "Carelessly changing a special folder may render your system unusable.

>> For example, don't set two special folders equal to each other, or

>> set a special folder equal to a system folder like the Fonts folder.

>> Continue changing special folders?"

>>

>> If I move the My Pictures folder to the desktop it will then reside:

>> inside the Desktop folder, which is inside the Windows folder, which

>> is inside the C: folder; instead of where it is now: inside the My

>> Documents folder which is inside the C: folder.

>>

>> Will making my proposed move have the effect of setting it "equal" to

>> any other system folder?? I must admit I haven't a clue what this

>> means!

>>

>> Also (and I see now Dapper Dan is grappling with this issue too):

>

September 5, 2007

Re: Moving My Pictures - Mike M

Re: Moving My Pictures - Mike M

Thanks Dan,

I didn't recall seeing any post from you mentioning any problem with the

location of the My Pictures object. I hope you've now managed to sort out

your problems with SpyBot.

Cheers,

Mike M

Dapper Dan <dapperdan@home.com> wrote:

> No issue with me. I think it was the explanation of what file

> associations are protected by SR.

September 5, 2007

Re: Moving My Pictures - Mike M

Re: Moving My Pictures - Mike M

Hi Mike

Thanks for the folder "equality" clarification--I'm thinking the Tweak

writers just assumed the gal-on-the-street would understand.

From his recent post about troubles installing the Spybot update it seemed

Dapper Dan and I were both concerned with which file extensions

SystemRestore purges and/or replaces. The "also" part of my first post in

this thread was intended to point to the last paragraph I wrote in it

(quoted here--sorry that wasn't clear):

> During the one SysRes I've done since I reinstalled Me on 8/8 (to purge a

> Powertoy I installed that messed up in spite of an assurance promising

> Me compatibility), I watched shortcuts disappear off my desktop and some

> I'd deleted reappear. After the reboot I opened the desktop folder where

> I'd stashed freshly downloaded new versions of some favorite programs and

> discovered them missing. So SR routed out some of my personal files, thus

> my original concern about SR and moving My Pictures to the desktop. At

>the bottom of SR's "filelist.xml" in the category named <include> I find

> two of my image file extensions--PSP, TUB;--as well as EOT, TTF, and LNK.

>Can I use Notepad to edit that file and remove these "includes"?

In your reply to Dan (September 04, 2007 2:31 PM) you said:

Subject: Re: System Restore

> System restore does not archive and has no interest in data files wherever

> located unless one happens to have a file extension in the Extension

> Include list which is unusual if not extremely rare.

And in your post to me (August 22, 2007 3:34 PM) you mentioned:

> If you want to know which file extensions are monitored by SR

> then have a look at the <EXTENSIONS> <Include> section of the file

> filelist.xml located at C:Windows\System\Restore (you can open it using

> notepad). You will find that SR has no interest is the vast majority of

> user data files and can, if necessary, be easily modified to exclude any

> specific file type that a user needs to exclude. Details available of how

> to so do if required.

PSP and TUB are both Paint Shop Pro image file formats (which I transfer to

My Pictures after a short sojourn in my desktop Downloads folder), TTF and

EOT are font file extensions, and LNK--well it's a link. Why would SR

remove or replace any of these?--I certainly don't want it to.

Can I edit these extensions out of SR's <EXTENSIONS><Include> list using

Notepad? Can I add My Pictures and my personal desktop Downloads folder

to SR's <DIRECTORIES><Exclude> list? ("Documents and Settings" is already

excluded--but My Pictures won't be if I move it to the desktop.) Will the

EXE files in my Downloads folder still be removed (EXE is in the

<EXTENSIONS><Include> list) if I put the Downloads folder in the

<DIRECTORIES><Exclude> list?

Guess I need those details ;-) TIA

carol

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