Guest Glenn Posted September 6, 2007 Posted September 6, 2007 couple questions Machine is 4 years old. Want to get a new hd, (in case). Mine is a 60g. The new ones are larger than that and cheap. Somewhere on this thing there is information about if it is 16, 32, etc. bit which seems to determine the hd makeup. Where is it hidden? What else do I need to know? Will probably just clone the old to the new and make it primary but I would consider starting it off clean with my original cd of XP Pro. How much crap does M$ give to activate it?
Guest Bob I Posted September 6, 2007 Posted September 6, 2007 Re: upgrade Why not just use the cloning software that comes with most new hard drives? Glenn wrote: > couple questions > > Machine is 4 years old. Want to get a new hd, (in case). Mine is a 60g. The new ones are larger than that and cheap. Somewhere on this thing there is information about if it is 16, 32, etc. bit which seems to determine the hd makeup. Where is it hidden? > > What else do I need to know? > > Will probably just clone the old to the new and make it primary but I would consider starting it off clean with my original cd of XP Pro. How much crap does M$ give to activate it?
Guest Glenn Posted September 6, 2007 Posted September 6, 2007 Re: upgrade It does? OK [g] "Bob I" <birelan@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:uXCZABK8HHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > Why not just use the cloning software that comes with > most new hard drives? > > Glenn wrote: > >> couple questions >> >> Machine is 4 years old. Want to get a new hd, (in >> case). Mine is a 60g. The new ones are larger than >> that and cheap. Somewhere on this thing there is >> information about if it is 16, 32, etc. bit which >> seems to determine the hd makeup. Where is it >> hidden? What else do I need to know? >> >> Will probably just clone the old to the new and make >> it primary but I would consider starting it off >> clean with my original cd of XP Pro. How much crap >> does M$ give to activate it? >
Guest Tim Slattery Posted September 6, 2007 Posted September 6, 2007 Re: upgrade "Glenn" <pilcheg@kc.rr.com> wrote: > Machine is 4 years old. Want to get a new hd, (in case). Mine is a 60g. The > new ones are larger than that and cheap. Somewhere on this thing there is > information about if it is 16, 32, etc. bit which seems to determine the hd > makeup. Where is it hidden? I don't know what you're talking about. Disks are not 16 or 32-bit. Your hardware, operating system and applications are. Since you're running WinXP, your hardware, OS, and apps are pretty surely all 32-bit. But that has no bearing on your disks. >Will probably just clone the old to the new and make it primary but I >would consider starting it off clean with my original cd of XP Pro. >How much crap does M$ give to activate it? You probably won't have any trouble activating the system if you install from scratch. A new disk does not constitute a "new computer" so even an OEM system should work. -- Tim Slattery MS MVP(DTS) Slattery_T@bls.gov http://members.cox.net/slatteryt
Guest Glenn Posted September 6, 2007 Posted September 6, 2007 Re: upgrade "Tim Slattery" <Slattery_T@bls.gov> wrote in message news:bna0e3tm8q30m1a74kb7ifcdbprr8599b9@4ax.com... > "Glenn" <pilcheg@kc.rr.com> wrote: > >> Machine is 4 years old. Want to get a new hd, (in >> case). Mine is a 60g. The >> new ones are larger than that and cheap. Somewhere >> on this thing there is >> information about if it is 16, 32, etc. bit which >> seems to determine the hd >> makeup. Where is it hidden? > > I don't know what you're talking about. Disks are not > 16 or 32-bit. > Your hardware, operating system and applications are. > Since you're > running WinXP, your hardware, OS, and apps are pretty > surely all > 32-bit. But that has no bearing on your disks. > I read in the lit on one hd that it was 160g but if some condition wasn't met, maybe 64 bit (?) it would only put out 137 g. That is the reason for the question. Where is the bit info hidden? > -- > Tim Slattery > MS MVP(DTS) > Slattery_T@bls.gov > http://members.cox.net/slatteryt
Guest Ken Blake, MVP Posted September 6, 2007 Posted September 6, 2007 Re: upgrade On Thu, 6 Sep 2007 10:27:44 -0500, "Glenn" <pilcheg@kc.rr.com> wrote: > couple questions > > Machine is 4 years old. Want to get a new hd, (in case). Mine is a 60g. > The new ones are larger than that and cheap. > Somewhere on this thing > there is information about if it is 16, 32, etc. bit > which seems to determine the hd makeup. Where is it hidden? I don't understand what you are asking. Disk drives don't come as 16-bit or 32-bit. > What else do I need to know? Nothing. Just buy an IDE drive (assuming that that's the interface you have) of the size you want. However, note that with an older computer there's one issue to be aware of: to fully support a drive larger than 137GB, you need 1. A motherboard with a BIOS and controller that supports 48-bit LBA (or alternatively, an add-in controller card that does). 2. At least SP1 of Windows XP. > Will probably just clone the old to the new and make it primary Why not simply add it as a second drive? Assuming that there's room in the case, and a sufficiently large power supply, that's both easier and lets you end up with more disk space. > but I would consider starting it off clean with my original cd > of XP Pro. How much crap does M$ give to activate it? None at all. It should activate over the internet just as it did the first time. -- Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User Please Reply to the Newsgroup
Guest Ken Blake, MVP Posted September 6, 2007 Posted September 6, 2007 Re: upgrade On Thu, 6 Sep 2007 11:51:30 -0500, "Glenn" <pilcheg@kc.rr.com> wrote: > > "Tim Slattery" <Slattery_T@bls.gov> wrote in message > news:bna0e3tm8q30m1a74kb7ifcdbprr8599b9@4ax.com... > > "Glenn" <pilcheg@kc.rr.com> wrote: > > > >> Machine is 4 years old. Want to get a new hd, (in > >> case). Mine is a 60g. The > >> new ones are larger than that and cheap. Somewhere > >> on this thing there is > >> information about if it is 16, 32, etc. bit which > >> seems to determine the hd > >> makeup. Where is it hidden? > > > > I don't know what you're talking about. Disks are not > > 16 or 32-bit. > > Your hardware, operating system and applications are. > > Since you're > > running WinXP, your hardware, OS, and apps are pretty > > surely all > > 32-bit. But that has no bearing on your disks. > > > I read in the lit on one hd that it was 160g but if > some condition wasn't met, maybe 64 bit (?) it would > only put out 137 g. That is the reason for the > question. You read wrong. I explained the 137GB 48-bit LBA issue in my previous message. Note that the 48-bits has to be supported on the motherboard and on the operating system, *not* on the HD. > Where is the bit info hidden? No such thing, as both Tim and I pointed out. -- Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User Please Reply to the Newsgroup
Guest Tim Slattery Posted September 6, 2007 Posted September 6, 2007 Re: upgrade "Glenn" <pilcheg@kc.rr.com> wrote: >I read in the lit on one hd that it was 160g but if >some condition wasn't met, maybe 64 bit (?) it would >only put out 137 g. That is the reason for the >question. OK, now I get it. If your BIOS doesn't support 48-bit LBA (Large Block Addressing), then it won't be able to see more than 137GB of your disk. 48-bit LBA has been the standard for quite a while now, any computer that came with XP pretty surely supports it. -- Tim Slattery MS MVP(DTS) Slattery_T@bls.gov http://members.cox.net/slatteryt
Guest Unknown Posted September 6, 2007 Posted September 6, 2007 Re: upgrade Don't you mean Logical Block Addressing? "Tim Slattery" <Slattery_T@bls.gov> wrote in message news:pfn0e3pjgsduqi4du79v703f2hnoqsu2l9@4ax.com... > "Glenn" <pilcheg@kc.rr.com> wrote: > >>I read in the lit on one hd that it was 160g but if >>some condition wasn't met, maybe 64 bit (?) it would >>only put out 137 g. That is the reason for the >>question. > > OK, now I get it. If your BIOS doesn't support 48-bit LBA (Large Block > Addressing), then it won't be able to see more than 137GB of your > disk. 48-bit LBA has been the standard for quite a while now, any > computer that came with XP pretty surely supports it. > > -- > Tim Slattery > MS MVP(DTS) > Slattery_T@bls.gov > http://members.cox.net/slatteryt
Guest Glenn Posted September 7, 2007 Posted September 7, 2007 Re: upgrade OK thanks everybody. Installed a 160G IDE/PATA. Downloaded a free clone, by the way none come with any hd I looked at. and now have the full 160G with my OS on it. I'll reverse the plugs and make it C drive and and make the 60G my second. May even format it after I'm SURE everything is on the 160 and have it for my clean D drive. "Tim Slattery" <Slattery_T@bls.gov> wrote in message news:pfn0e3pjgsduqi4du79v703f2hnoqsu2l9@4ax.com... > "Glenn" <pilcheg@kc.rr.com> wrote: > >>I read in the lit on one hd that it was 160g but if >>some condition wasn't met, maybe 64 bit (?) it would >>only put out 137 g. That is the reason for the >>question. > > OK, now I get it. If your BIOS doesn't support 48-bit > LBA (Large Block > Addressing), then it won't be able to see more than > 137GB of your > disk. 48-bit LBA has been the standard for quite a > while now, any > computer that came with XP pretty surely supports it. > > -- > Tim Slattery > MS MVP(DTS) > Slattery_T@bls.gov > http://members.cox.net/slatteryt
Guest Tim Slattery Posted September 7, 2007 Posted September 7, 2007 Re: upgrade "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote: >Don't you mean Logical Block Addressing? Yeah, I probably do. -- Tim Slattery MS MVP(DTS) Slattery_T@bls.gov http://members.cox.net/slatteryt
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