iTunes 7.3.2

September 6, 2007

Hi,

Does anyone know where I can get the download for *iTunes 7.3.2*? Will

this *iTunes* work with the Windows 98SE? I tried the Apples website and the

one they have now is 7.4 and it is for XP and above. The reason I want to

know is because I need it for the class notes from the teacher. The teacher

does podcasts for his classes.

TIA

Angel

September 7, 2007

Re: iTunes 7.3.2

No version of iTunes runs on 98SE.

"Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message

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> Hi,

> Does anyone know where I can get the download for *iTunes 7.3.2*? Will

> this *iTunes* work with the Windows 98SE? I tried the Apples website and

the

> one they have now is 7.4 and it is for XP and above. The reason I want to

> know is because I need it for the class notes from the teacher. The

teacher

> does podcasts for his classes.

> TIA

> Angel

>

September 7, 2007

Re: iTunes 7.3.2

> "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message

> news:eOMncQN8HHA.4436@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> > Hi,

> > Does anyone know where I can get the download for *iTunes 7.3.2*?

Will

> > this *iTunes* work with the Windows 98SE? I tried the Apples website and

> > the one they have now is 7.4 and it is for XP and above.

"John" <nospam@nospam.nospam> wrote in message

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>

> No version of iTunes runs on 98SE.

Of course this is increasingly common. Linux may offer a cheap

solution. PCs that run Linux as well as Win98 sometimes enable

Linux connection with devices built exclusively for XP and Vista.

--

Don Phillipson

Carlsbad Springs

(Ottawa, Canada)

September 7, 2007

Re: iTunes 7.3.2

Hello!

"Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message news:eOMncQN8HHA.4436@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> Hi,

> know is because I need it for the class notes from the teacher. The teacher

> does podcasts for his classes.

You don't need iTunes to play podcasts ...

Roman

September 7, 2007

Re: iTunes 7.3.2

"roman modic" <modicr@astral-it.com> wrote in message

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> Hello!

>

> "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message

news:eOMncQN8HHA.4436@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> > Hi,

> > know is because I need it for the class notes from the teacher. The

teacher

> > does podcasts for his classes.

>

> You don't need iTunes to play podcasts ...

>

> Roman

>

Roman,

Some podcasts do work without iTunes. Example: 1.1. Our teacher uses the

iTunes 7.3.2. I have tried his links without the iTunes and I could not get

it. Maybe his link was wrong, I will keep trying. I found the iTunes 7.3.2

by Googling it. The site said that Windows 2000 was required. The newer

version 7.4 requires XP or later.

Thanks,

Angel

September 9, 2007

Re: iTunes 7.3.2

"Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message

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>

> "roman modic" <modicr@astral-it.com> wrote in message

> news:u%23DsDiW8HHA.3916@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> > Hello!

> >

> > "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message

> news:eOMncQN8HHA.4436@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> > > Hi,

> > > know is because I need it for the class notes from the teacher. The

> teacher

> > > does podcasts for his classes.

> >

> > You don't need iTunes to play podcasts ...

> >

> > Roman

> >

> Roman,

> Some podcasts do work without iTunes. Example: 1.1. Our teacher uses the

> iTunes 7.3.2. I have tried his links without the iTunes and I could not

get

> it. Maybe his link was wrong, I will keep trying. I found the iTunes 7.3.2

> by Googling it. The site said that Windows 2000 was required. The newer

> version 7.4 requires XP or later.

> Thanks,

> Angel

>

Hi,

Well, the iTunes for podcasts is accessible through the Universities. It

is called iTunesU. The one they are using now is Version 7.4. I can't even

get the 7.3.2 without paying for it. The teacher said that the 7.3.2 was the

one to get. According to the site for iTunesU, it is not. 7.3.2 would not

work on this computer anyway. The teachers use iTunes to get the notes from

the classes to the students. These are the ones you need the iTunes to

access the notes. I guess they think all use the latest technology. When you

tell other students that you are still using the Windows 98SE, they look at

you with a ? on their faces. and you get a frown from them. Most have fried

several computers since 98SE. Mine is still going strong.

I spoke to the girl at the reference desk in the library at the

University, she said that maybe I could access the notes through the

Computer Room in the library. I may try that next week.

Today I was speaking to the city Fire Chief at a meeting. He told me that

his daughter went back to reinstalling XP. She had Vista and it always was

crashing, she hated Vista.

Thanks everyone,

Angel

September 9, 2007

Re: iTunes 7.3.2

Angel wrote:

> "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message

> news:%23JjyW7X8HHA.2476@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>

>> "roman modic" <modicr@astral-it.com> wrote in message

>> news:u%23DsDiW8HHA.3916@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>> Hello!

>>>

>>> "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message

>> news:eOMncQN8HHA.4436@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>> Hi,

>>>> know is because I need it for the class notes from the teacher. The

teacher

>>>> does podcasts for his classes.

>>>

>>> You don't need iTunes to play podcasts ...

>>>

>>> Roman

>>>

>> Roman,

>> Some podcasts do work without iTunes. Example: 1.1. Our teacher uses the

>> iTunes 7.3.2. I have tried his links without the iTunes and I could not

get

>> it. Maybe his link was wrong, I will keep trying. I found the iTunes

7.3.2

>> by Googling it. The site said that Windows 2000 was required. The newer

>> version 7.4 requires XP or later.

>> Thanks,

>> Angel

If it works on Win2K, which is a bit dated, too, maybe there is a slight

chance it might work on Win98SE? Have you tried installing it? I've

done that sometimes, and, on some rare occasions, a program will install,

even though it didn't mention Win98SE as being "supported". Of course, a

lot of the time the installer just flat out balks, and says "No way, Jose!".

However, if you're planning on trying this, you probably should have a good

and recent system backup, just in case it messes up. I use a backup USB

2.0 hard drive enclosure (containing an identical IDE hard disk) for this

kind of work.

September 9, 2007

Re: iTunes 7.3.2

"Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

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> Angel wrote:

> > "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message

> > news:%23JjyW7X8HHA.2476@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> >>

> >> "roman modic" <modicr@astral-it.com> wrote in message

> >> news:u%23DsDiW8HHA.3916@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> >>> Hello!

> >>>

> >>> "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message

> >> news:eOMncQN8HHA.4436@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> >>>> Hi,

> >>>> know is because I need it for the class notes from the teacher. The

> teacher

> >>>> does podcasts for his classes.

> >>>

> >>> You don't need iTunes to play podcasts ...

> >>>

> >>> Roman

> >>>

> >> Roman,

> >> Some podcasts do work without iTunes. Example: 1.1. Our teacher uses

the

> >> iTunes 7.3.2. I have tried his links without the iTunes and I could not

> get

> >> it. Maybe his link was wrong, I will keep trying. I found the iTunes

> 7.3.2

> >> by Googling it. The site said that Windows 2000 was required. The

newer

> >> version 7.4 requires XP or later.

> >> Thanks,

> >> Angel

>

> If it works on Win2K, which is a bit dated, too, maybe there is a slight

> chance it might work on Win98SE? Have you tried installing it? I've

> done that sometimes, and, on some rare occasions, a program will install,

> even though it didn't mention Win98SE as being "supported". Of course,

a

> lot of the time the installer just flat out balks, and says "No way,

Jose!".

> However, if you're planning on trying this, you probably should have a

good

> and recent system backup, just in case it messes up. I use a backup USB

> 2.0 hard drive enclosure (containing an identical IDE hard disk) for this

> kind of work.

>

Hi Bill,

I usually use the backup that came with the computer (Drive Image) to

backup the computer about every week or so. I don't have USB 2.0. The only

have (2) 1.1 USB ports. I would have to get the USB 2.0 port for it and the

EHD. I would have to get my grandson put it in for me. He is good at things

with the computers. I have too much electricity in my own system, I would be

afraid that I would fry the motherboard. Of course, I know the precautions.

The 7.3.2 iTunes as I understand it is the old one, some companies are using

it for their music now and ask for a yearly fee to use it. The one the

University uses now is free and it is 7.4 under iTunesU. When I read about

it, you need XP or Vista to use it. I will try to find out more from the

University Computer Room that is located in the Library Building. I had also

put out a question to the Technical dept. at the University concerning this

question about using an older version on 98SE to get the notes. I do not

want to have to buy a new computer just for classes. If I was going for a

diploma, I would probably do it. I am auditing the classes. This does not

warrant the expense of a new computer. I am enjoying the classes. I learn

something new almost everyday.

Angel

September 10, 2007

Re: iTunes 7.3.2

On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 14:42:28 -0400, "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote:

>Some podcasts do work without iTunes. Example: 1.1. Our teacher uses the

>iTunes 7.3.2. I have tried his links without the iTunes and I could not get

>it. Maybe his link was wrong, I will keep trying. I found the iTunes 7.3.2

>by Googling it. The site said that Windows 2000 was required. The newer

>version 7.4 requires XP or later.

The real question is - where is he distributing his content? If it's

only available from the Apple iTunes web site, it's iTunes only. If

it's available from another web site, via RSS or some other vehicle,

you should be able to download the content and access it with programs

that work on Windows 98.

What is the URI for his content/class notes?

September 10, 2007

Re: iTunes 7.3.2

On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 09:44:37 -0500, Vince <nobody@home.invalid> wrote:

>The real question is - where is he distributing his content? If it's

>only available from the Apple iTunes web site, it's iTunes only.

Oops. Googled for iTunesU. It's the Apple web site!

iTunes only!

You're out of luck.

Working with the folks at the University library is your best bet at

this point.

September 11, 2007

Re: iTunes 7.3.2

"Vince" <nobody@home.invalid> wrote in message

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> On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 14:42:28 -0400, "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote:

>

> >Some podcasts do work without iTunes. Example: 1.1. Our teacher uses the

> >iTunes 7.3.2. I have tried his links without the iTunes and I could not

get

> >it. Maybe his link was wrong, I will keep trying. I found the iTunes

7.3.2

> >by Googling it. The site said that Windows 2000 was required. The newer

> >version 7.4 requires XP or later.

>

> The real question is - where is he distributing his content? If it's

> only available from the Apple iTunes web site, it's iTunes only. If

> it's available from another web site, via RSS or some other vehicle,

> you should be able to download the content and access it with programs

> that work on Windows 98.

>

> What is the URI for his content/class notes?

Vince,

When I tried his link it took me to the download page from Apple. It

wanted you to download a later version. 7.4.

Today I got an email from the help desk at the University with a link to

download 7.3.2. I tried the link and it would not download that version. The

link is:

http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/win/29621&vid=44272&mode=inf

Maybe you can try to find out if it will work. It took me to a page and

would not even try to download.

Thanks,

Angel

September 11, 2007

Re: iTunes 7.3.2

"Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message

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|

| "Vince" <nobody@home.invalid> wrote in message

| news:6plae3lv2krb0i3io9tetleddt5ie45bsd@4ax.com...

| > On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 14:42:28 -0400, "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote:

| >

| > >Some podcasts do work without iTunes. Example: 1.1. Our teacher uses

the

| > >iTunes 7.3.2. I have tried his links without the iTunes and I could not

| get

| > >it. Maybe his link was wrong, I will keep trying. I found the iTunes

| 7.3.2

| > >by Googling it. The site said that Windows 2000 was required. The

newer

| > >version 7.4 requires XP or later.

| >

| > The real question is - where is he distributing his content? If it's

| > only available from the Apple iTunes web site, it's iTunes only. If

| > it's available from another web site, via RSS or some other vehicle,

| > you should be able to download the content and access it with programs

| > that work on Windows 98.

| >

| > What is the URI for his content/class notes?

|

| Vince,

| When I tried his link it took me to the download page from Apple.

It

| wanted you to download a later version. 7.4.

| Today I got an email from the help desk at the University with a link to

| download 7.3.2. I tried the link and it would not download that version.

The

| link is:

| http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/win/29621&vid=44272&mode=inf

| Maybe you can try to find out if it will work. It took me to a page and

| would not even try to download.

| Thanks,

| Angel

|

Tried that link, no luck, though it will show info back to version 4.1

[2003].

Are you downloading TO an iPod, or are you trying from your hard drive, or

directly from the NET?

How about these for 98SE:

http://www.redchairsoftware.com/anapod/ - costs

http://www.98-drivers.com/ipod.html - MUST donate 5 dollars

Or how about WinAMP?

ALL require that you have an iPod [proprietary format]...

--

MEB

http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

________

September 11, 2007

Re: iTunes 7.3.2

Interesting Discussion. MEB, do you know if it is possible to run your Ipod

songs through Windows 98 SE and has anyone successfully accomplished this

task. I tried myself a while back with my Ipod Mini but did not have any

success.

"MEB" wrote:

>

> "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message

> news:O%23cWWLB9HHA.600@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> |

> | "Vince" <nobody@home.invalid> wrote in message

> | news:6plae3lv2krb0i3io9tetleddt5ie45bsd@4ax.com...

> | > On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 14:42:28 -0400, "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote:

> | >

> | > >Some podcasts do work without iTunes. Example: 1.1. Our teacher uses

> the

> | > >iTunes 7.3.2. I have tried his links without the iTunes and I could not

> | get

> | > >it. Maybe his link was wrong, I will keep trying. I found the iTunes

> | 7.3.2

> | > >by Googling it. The site said that Windows 2000 was required. The

> newer

> | > >version 7.4 requires XP or later.

> | >

> | > The real question is - where is he distributing his content? If it's

> | > only available from the Apple iTunes web site, it's iTunes only. If

> | > it's available from another web site, via RSS or some other vehicle,

> | > you should be able to download the content and access it with programs

> | > that work on Windows 98.

> | >

> | > What is the URI for his content/class notes?

> |

> | Vince,

> | When I tried his link it took me to the download page from Apple.

> It

> | wanted you to download a later version. 7.4.

> | Today I got an email from the help desk at the University with a link to

> | download 7.3.2. I tried the link and it would not download that version.

> The

> | link is:

> | http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/win/29621&vid=44272&mode=inf

> | Maybe you can try to find out if it will work. It took me to a page and

> | would not even try to download.

> | Thanks,

> | Angel

> |

>

> Tried that link, no luck, though it will show info back to version 4.1

> [2003].

>

> Are you downloading TO an iPod, or are you trying from your hard drive, or

> directly from the NET?

>

> How about these for 98SE:

>

> http://www.redchairsoftware.com/anapod/ - costs

> http://www.98-drivers.com/ipod.html - MUST donate 5 dollars

>

> Or how about WinAMP?

>

> ALL require that you have an iPod [proprietary format]...

>

> --

> MEB

> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> ________

>

September 11, 2007

Re: iTunes 7.3.2

Dan, I don't know what you mean by "run your Ipod songs through Windows 98

SE" but you can use Xplay from http://www.mediafour.com to load mp3s on his nano on

his 98SE system. If by "Ipod songs" you mean "iTunes purchases" I don't

think they are playable on 98SE but I could be wrong. Good luck.

"Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

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> Interesting Discussion. MEB, do you know if it is possible to run your

Ipod

> songs through Windows 98 SE and has anyone successfully accomplished this

> task. I tried myself a while back with my Ipod Mini but did not have any

> success.

>

September 11, 2007

Re: iTunes 7.3.2

MEB,

I am not trying to download anything to the iTunes. I am trying to get

the notes that our professor downloads to iTunes. His podcasts of the

classes. You need the 7.3.2 version to get his notes. So that is as simple

as I can describe the problem. The Link that the dept. gave me won't work.

So I guess that the best I can do is try to get it up at the University. If

that does not work, then I am OOL! Oh, well, that's life!!

Angel

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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>

> "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message

> news:O%23cWWLB9HHA.600@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> |

> | "Vince" <nobody@home.invalid> wrote in message

> | news:6plae3lv2krb0i3io9tetleddt5ie45bsd@4ax.com...

> | > On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 14:42:28 -0400, "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote:

> | >

> | > >Some podcasts do work without iTunes. Example: 1.1. Our teacher uses

> the

> | > >iTunes 7.3.2. I have tried his links without the iTunes and I could

not

> | get

> | > >it. Maybe his link was wrong, I will keep trying. I found the iTunes

> | 7.3.2

> | > >by Googling it. The site said that Windows 2000 was required. The

> newer

> | > >version 7.4 requires XP or later.

> | >

> | > The real question is - where is he distributing his content? If it's

> | > only available from the Apple iTunes web site, it's iTunes only. If

> | > it's available from another web site, via RSS or some other vehicle,

> | > you should be able to download the content and access it with programs

> | > that work on Windows 98.

> | >

> | > What is the URI for his content/class notes?

> |

> | Vince,

> | When I tried his link it took me to the download page from

Apple.

> It

> | wanted you to download a later version. 7.4.

> | Today I got an email from the help desk at the University with a link to

> | download 7.3.2. I tried the link and it would not download that version.

> The

> | link is:

> | http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/win/29621&vid=44272&mode=inf

> | Maybe you can try to find out if it will work. It took me to a page

and

> | would not even try to download.

> | Thanks,

> | Angel

> |

>

> Tried that link, no luck, though it will show info back to version 4.1

> [2003].

>

> Are you downloading TO an iPod, or are you trying from your hard drive,

or

> directly from the NET?

>

> How about these for 98SE:

>

> http://www.redchairsoftware.com/anapod/ - costs

> http://www.98-drivers.com/ipod.html - MUST donate 5 dollars

>

> Or how about WinAMP?

>

> ALL require that you have an iPod [proprietary format]...

>

> --

> MEB

> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> ________

>

September 11, 2007

Re: iTunes 7.3.2

"Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message

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| MEB,

| I am not trying to download anything to the iTunes. I am trying to

get

| the notes that our professor downloads to iTunes. His podcasts of the

| classes. You need the 7.3.2 version to get his notes. So that is as simple

| as I can describe the problem. The Link that the dept. gave me won't work.

| So I guess that the best I can do is try to get it up at the University.

If

| that does not work, then I am OOL! Oh, well, that's life!!

| Angel

Okay, that was already understood.

What I was indirectly trying to show was; that if one intends to attempt

iPod/iTunes usage in 9X/ME, one will likely need to use a *non-official*

program or pluggin during the attempt. Though the iPod can be used for

pretty much anything, i.e. from a mobile *hard drive* to a music/video

player [depending upon the hardware version/supported aspects], to provide

this in an *unsupported* OS like 9X apparently requires something other than

one of Apple's official versions.

Several parties on the NET are working on *pluggins* and/or programs to

allow such usage, but these will NEVER be official *Apple authorized* for

9X/ME as Apple never really intended such usage. Apple is also constantly

creating newer versions which apparently are NOT compatible with previous

versions. One could reasonably claim this is done to ensure Apple remains in

control of its products and software necessary to use them. One could also

raise claim that this may be an attempt to force iPod users to upgrade the

device. I have seen materials which claim Apple feels that four years [or

less] is the *life* of one of its devices.

That, of course, remains the major points of contention to the users of

Apple's products, be the user running 9X/ME or one of the officially

supported applications from Apple..

|

| "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

| news:%23KFKqiF9HHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

| >

| > "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message

| > news:O%23cWWLB9HHA.600@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

| > |

| > | "Vince" <nobody@home.invalid> wrote in message

| > | news:6plae3lv2krb0i3io9tetleddt5ie45bsd@4ax.com...

| > | > On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 14:42:28 -0400, "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote:

| > | >

| > | > >Some podcasts do work without iTunes. Example: 1.1. Our teacher

uses

| > the

| > | > >iTunes 7.3.2. I have tried his links without the iTunes and I could

| not

| > | get

| > | > >it. Maybe his link was wrong, I will keep trying. I found the

iTunes

| > | 7.3.2

| > | > >by Googling it. The site said that Windows 2000 was required. The

| > newer

| > | > >version 7.4 requires XP or later.

| > | >

| > | > The real question is - where is he distributing his content? If

it's

| > | > only available from the Apple iTunes web site, it's iTunes only. If

| > | > it's available from another web site, via RSS or some other vehicle,

| > | > you should be able to download the content and access it with

programs

| > | > that work on Windows 98.

| > | >

| > | > What is the URI for his content/class notes?

| > |

| > | Vince,

| > | When I tried his link it took me to the download page from

| Apple.

| > It

| > | wanted you to download a later version. 7.4.

| > | Today I got an email from the help desk at the University with a link

to

| > | download 7.3.2. I tried the link and it would not download that

version.

| > The

| > | link is:

| > |

http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/win/29621&vid=44272&mode=inf

| > | Maybe you can try to find out if it will work. It took me to a page

| and

| > | would not even try to download.

| > | Thanks,

| > | Angel

| > |

| >

| > Tried that link, no luck, though it will show info back to version 4.1

| > [2003].

| >

| > Are you downloading TO an iPod, or are you trying from your hard drive,

| or

| > directly from the NET?

| >

| > How about these for 98SE:

| >

| > http://www.redchairsoftware.com/anapod/ - costs

| > http://www.98-drivers.com/ipod.html - MUST donate 5 dollars

| >

| > Or how about WinAMP?

| >

| > ALL require that you have an iPod [proprietary format]...

| >

| > --

| > MEB

| > ________

| >

--

MEB

http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

________

September 11, 2007

Re: iTunes 7.3.2

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:%23KFKqiF9HHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>

> "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message

> news:O%23cWWLB9HHA.600@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> |

> | "Vince" <nobody@home.invalid> wrote in message

> | news:6plae3lv2krb0i3io9tetleddt5ie45bsd@4ax.com...

> | > On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 14:42:28 -0400, "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote:

> | >

> | > >Some podcasts do work without iTunes. Example: 1.1. Our teacher uses

> the

> | > >iTunes 7.3.2. I have tried his links without the iTunes and I could

not

> | get

> | > >it. Maybe his link was wrong, I will keep trying. I found the iTunes

> | 7.3.2

> | > >by Googling it. The site said that Windows 2000 was required. The

> newer

> | > >version 7.4 requires XP or later.

> | >

> | > The real question is - where is he distributing his content? If it's

> | > only available from the Apple iTunes web site, it's iTunes only. If

> | > it's available from another web site, via RSS or some other vehicle,

> | > you should be able to download the content and access it with programs

> | > that work on Windows 98.

All I know about it is that you need iTunes to get the podcast notes.

The instructions say, that "after you download the iTunes Version 7.3.2,

then restart the computer. Use the link again. Once you arrive at the

Univesity's region of the iTunes network, navigate to the Arts and Sciences

icon, click on that. then click on the course of his that you want, then

click on the podcast you want, and then it should start for you."

When I used his link it did not work. When I typed his link in the

address bar it came up at the Apple website to download the Version 7.4.

The link I sent you was the link from the Help Desk of the library not

his.This was the link that they said to use to download the Version 7.3.2.

Angel

> | >

> | > What is the URI for his content/class notes?

> |

> | Vince,

> | When I tried his link it took me to the download page from

Apple.

> It

> | wanted you to download a later version. 7.4.

> | Today I got an email from the help desk at the University with a link to

> | download 7.3.2. I tried the link and it would not download that version.

> The

> | link is:

> | http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/win/29621&vid=44272&mode=inf

> | Maybe you can try to find out if it will work. It took me to a page

and

> | would not even try to download.

> | Thanks,

> | Angel

> |

>

> Tried that link, no luck, though it will show info back to version 4.1

> [2003].

>

> Are you downloading TO an iPod, or are you trying from your hard drive,

or

> directly from the NET?

>

> How about these for 98SE:

>

> http://www.redchairsoftware.com/anapod/ - costs

> http://www.98-drivers.com/ipod.html - MUST donate 5 dollars

>

> Or how about WinAMP?

>

> ALL require that you have an iPod [proprietary format]...

>

> --

> MEB

> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> ________

>

September 11, 2007

Re: iTunes 7.3.2

{in line below}

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:OYBLh1K9HHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>

> "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message

> news:O0DotTJ9HHA.4880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> | MEB,

> | I am not trying to download anything to the iTunes. I am trying to

> get

> | the notes that our professor downloads to iTunes. His podcasts of the

> | classes. You need the 7.3.2 version to get his notes. So that is as

simple

> | as I can describe the problem. The Link that the dept. gave me won't

work.

> | So I guess that the best I can do is try to get it up at the University.

> If

> | that does not work, then I am OOL! Oh, well, that's life!!

> | Angel

>

> Okay, that was already understood.

> What I was indirectly trying to show was; that if one intends to attempt

> iPod/iTunes usage in 9X/ME, one will likely need to use a *non-official*

> program or pluggin during the attempt. Though the iPod can be used for

> pretty much anything, i.e. from a mobile *hard drive* to a music/video

> player [depending upon the hardware version/supported aspects], to provide

> this in an *unsupported* OS like 9X apparently requires something other

than

> one of Apple's official versions.

>

> Several parties on the NET are working on *pluggins* and/or programs to

> allow such usage, but these will NEVER be official *Apple authorized* for

> 9X/ME as Apple never really intended such usage. Apple is also constantly

> creating newer versions which apparently are NOT compatible with previous

> versions. One could reasonably claim this is done to ensure Apple remains

in

> control of its products and software necessary to use them. One could also

> raise claim that this may be an attempt to force iPod users to upgrade the

> device. I have seen materials which claim Apple feels that four years [or

> less] is the *life* of one of its devices.

> That, of course, remains the major points of contention to the users of

> Apple's products, be the user running 9X/ME or one of the officially

> supported applications from Apple..

>

> |

> | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> | news:%23KFKqiF9HHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> | >

> | > "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message

> | > news:O%23cWWLB9HHA.600@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> | > |

> | > | "Vince" <nobody@home.invalid> wrote in message

> | > | news:6plae3lv2krb0i3io9tetleddt5ie45bsd@4ax.com...

> | > | > On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 14:42:28 -0400, "Angel" <angel@noway.com>

wrote:

> | > | >

> | > | > >Some podcasts do work without iTunes. Example: 1.1. Our teacher

> uses

> | > the

> | > | > >iTunes 7.3.2. I have tried his links without the iTunes and I

could

> | not

> | > | get

> | > | > >it. Maybe his link was wrong, I will keep trying. I found the

> iTunes

> | > | 7.3.2

> | > | > >by Googling it. The site said that Windows 2000 was required.

The

> | > newer

> | > | > >version 7.4 requires XP or later.

> | > | >

> | > | > The real question is - where is he distributing his content? If

> it's

> | > | > only available from the Apple iTunes web site, it's iTunes only.

If

> | > | > it's available from another web site, via RSS or some other

vehicle,

> | > | > you should be able to download the content and access it with

> programs

> | > | > that work on Windows 98.

> | > | >

> | > | > What is the URI for his content/class notes?

> | > |

> | > | Vince,

> | > | When I tried his link it took me to the download page from

> | Apple.

> | > It

> | > | wanted you to download a later version. 7.4.

> | > | Today I got an email from the help desk at the University with a

link

> to

> | > | download 7.3.2. I tried the link and it would not download that

> version.

> | > The

> | > | link is:

> | > |

> http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/win/29621&vid=44272&mode=inf

> | > | Maybe you can try to find out if it will work. It took me to a

page

> | and

> | > | would not even try to download.

> | > | Thanks,

> | > | Angel

> | > |

> | >

> | > Tried that link, no luck, though it will show info back to version

4.1

> | > [2003].

> | >

> | > Are you downloading TO an iPod, or are you trying from your hard

drive,

No, I do not have an iPod. My teacher does.

> | or

> | > directly from the NET?

From the NET, I guess.

> | >

> | > How about these for 98SE:

> | >

> | > http://www.redchairsoftware.com/anapod/ - costs

> | > http://www.98-drivers.com/ipod.html - MUST donate 5 dollars

> | >

> | > Or how about WinAMP?

> | >

> | > ALL require that you have an iPod [proprietary format]...

What is *an iPod [proprietary format]*

> | >

> | > --

> | > MEB

> | > ________

> | >

>

> --

> MEB

> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> ________

>

Angel

>

September 12, 2007

Security Concerns with Windows

Security Concerns with Windows

4 years or less --- wow that makes Microsoft seem like a saint in comparison

with thier support of Windows 98 and 98 Second Edition from 1998/1999 until

July 11, 2006 which is really awesome on Microsoft's part in my opinion. Now

lest you think I am totally for Microsoft you must remember that I feel that

eliminating the 9x operating systems was Microsoft's major mistake and I know

Microsoft wanted to cut down on costs but with cutting down on costs

Microsoft allowed for hackers to attack their products more easily. I am

talking about how XP and even Vista which are NT (New Technology) based the

business source code as compared to the 9x consumer source code of 98 and 98

Second Edition. The surface attack area is much greater in these current NT

products because they provide many more opportunities of attack. Yes, Vista

is much more secure than XP but also is currently less backwards compatible

than XP. Yes, Vista has 256 bit cipher strength in Internet Explorer which

not even XP Professional has currently. You can just go to the help and

about tab to prove this fact that the cipher strength of IE 6 and 7 in

Windows XP Professional is still only 128 bit compared to 256 bit cipher

strength. I was really worried and freaked out before because it was so

scary to have someone hack or steal my password somehow through 128 bit

encryption of webmail.aps.edu and my email of weiser_dan@aps.edu. It was

also scary to have someone or many people --- I don't know --- hack through

my home computer which is connected via an ethernet wire so it is not

wireless and has full stealth status of at least over 1000 ports according to

the Shields Up Test at grc.com. This is really crazy since I am really

careful to read emails in plain texts, not open up attachments, use AVG

antivirus full scans frequently and it updates daily automatically as well as

using the protections of Spybot Search and Destroy and SpywareBlaster from

Majorgeeks.com. I think the person was able to take advantage of

vulnerability(ies) in Cisco VPN access which allowed me to acess the APS

(Albuquerque Public School) network at home and which I had been granted full

access from by Ken Cole who is the Director of Technology at APS schools.

Anyway, it seems the hack happened through the vulnerabilities in VPN

(Virtual Private Networking) access and the Department of Homeland security

website has mentioned some current vulnerabilites with Cisco VPN access that

may have been patched by now. I am an email subscriber now to the us-cert

site.

September 12, 2007

Re: iTunes 7.3.2

Excuse this, but this thread was splitting apart, so I cut and pasted from

your other answer to this one.

"Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message

news:uLHN1wL9HHA.5404@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

| {in line below}

|

| "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

| news:OYBLh1K9HHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

| > "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message

| > news:O%23cWWLB9HHA.600@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

| > |

| > | "Vince" <nobody@home.invalid> wrote in message

| > | news:6plae3lv2krb0i3io9tetleddt5ie45bsd@4ax.com...

| > | > On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 14:42:28 -0400, "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote:

| > | >

| > | > >Some podcasts do work without iTunes. Example: 1.1. Our teacher

uses

| > the

| > | > >iTunes 7.3.2. I have tried his links without the iTunes and I could

| not

| > | get

| > | > >it. Maybe his link was wrong, I will keep trying. I found the

iTunes

| > | 7.3.2

| > | > >by Googling it. The site said that Windows 2000 was required. The

| > newer

| > | > >version 7.4 requires XP or later.

| > | >

| > | > The real question is - where is he distributing his content? If

it's

| > | > only available from the Apple iTunes web site, it's iTunes only. If

| > | > it's available from another web site, via RSS or some other vehicle,

| > | > you should be able to download the content and access it with

programs

| > | > that work on Windows 98.

|

| All I know about it is that you need iTunes to get the podcast notes.

| The instructions say, that "after you download the iTunes Version 7.3.2,

| then restart the computer. Use the link again. Once you arrive at the

| Univesity's region of the iTunes network, navigate to the Arts and

Sciences

| icon, click on that. then click on the course of his that you want, then

| click on the podcast you want, and then it should start for you."

| When I used his link it did not work. When I typed his link in the

| address bar it came up at the Apple website to download the Version 7.4.

| The link I sent you was the link from the Help Desk of the library not

| his.This was the link that they said to use to download the Version 7.3.2.

| Angel

Again, understood. So as you were advised, if its on the Apple iTunes site

as a pod cast, either you find some software to access it or you will have

to access it from some other computer.

|

| >

| > "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message

| > news:O0DotTJ9HHA.4880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

| > | MEB,

| > | I am not trying to download anything to the iTunes. I am trying

to

| > get

| > | the notes that our professor downloads to iTunes. His podcasts of the

| > | classes. You need the 7.3.2 version to get his notes. So that is as

| simple

| > | as I can describe the problem. The Link that the dept. gave me won't

| work.

| > | So I guess that the best I can do is try to get it up at the

University.

| > If

| > | that does not work, then I am OOL! Oh, well, that's life!!

| > | Angel

| >

| > Okay, that was already understood.

| > What I was indirectly trying to show was; that if one intends to

attempt

| > iPod/iTunes usage in 9X/ME, one will likely need to use a *non-official*

| > program or pluggin during the attempt. Though the iPod can be used for

| > pretty much anything, i.e. from a mobile *hard drive* to a music/video

| > player [depending upon the hardware version/supported aspects], to

provide

| > this in an *unsupported* OS like 9X apparently requires something other

| than

| > one of Apple's official versions.

| >

| > Several parties on the NET are working on *pluggins* and/or programs to

| > allow such usage, but these will NEVER be official *Apple authorized*

for

| > 9X/ME as Apple never really intended such usage. Apple is also

constantly

| > creating newer versions which apparently are NOT compatible with

remains

| in

| > control of its products and software necessary to use them. One could

also

| > raise claim that this may be an attempt to force iPod users to upgrade

the

| > device. I have seen materials which claim Apple feels that four years

[or

| > less] is the *life* of one of its devices.

| > That, of course, remains the major points of contention to the users of

| > Apple's products, be the user running 9X/ME or one of the officially

| > supported applications from Apple..

| >

| > |

| > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

| > | news:%23KFKqiF9HHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

| > | >

| > http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/win/29621&vid=44272&mode=inf

| > | > | Maybe you can try to find out if it will work. It took me to a

| page

| > | and

| > | > | would not even try to download.

| > | > | Thanks,

| > | > | Angel

| > | > |

| > | >

| > | > Tried that link, no luck, though it will show info back to version

| 4.1

| > | > [2003].

| > | >

| > | > Are you downloading TO an iPod, or are you trying from your hard

| drive,

|

| No, I do not have an iPod. My teacher does.

Right, and there lay the problem. If you had an iPod then this discussion

would be leading in a different direction.

|

| > | or

| > | > directly from the NET?

|

| From the NET, I guess.

Right, and off of Apple's own site apparently.

|

| > | >

| > | > How about these for 98SE:

| > | >

| > | > http://www.redchairsoftware.com/anapod/ - costs

| > | > http://www.98-drivers.com/ipod.html - MUST donate 5 dollars

| > | >

| > | > Or how about WinAMP?

| > | >

| > | > ALL require that you have an iPod [proprietary format]...

|

| What is *an iPod [proprietary format]*

Hmm, think of it like a picture [bmp, gif, jpg, wmf, etc.], or sound [wav,

mp3, asf, ogg vorbis, aaif, etc.]. Each differing format requires a program

which supports that format.

Podcasts require something that can decrypt/interpret the format. Though

there are other *podcasts* [non-Apple formats] the ones you're trying to

access:

1. Are on an Apple forum/site.

2. Were created with Apple's software in its format.

2. And the site checks for iTunes on your computer.

How?

Here you need to think of something like Adobe Reader. When you access a

site with a PDF, the Reader is called via its BHO hook to access, decode,

and view the PDF. If you haven't installed Adobe Reader [or a program that

provides that function AND places a hook] then the site link errors. Your

only option is to download the PDF, and use some other local PDF viewing

program to open it.

Same holds true for iTunes/iPodCasts. IF [emphasis] it were possible to

access the podcast and download it to your computer, then you could use some

program [which supports that format] to view/listen to the teacher's

lecture. OR you have to search for some *player* which supports the

iPod/iTunes format, works in 98 AND could pass the site check [not likely].

Apparently though, as the intended podcasts are on Apple [or some

subsidiary], likely someone else would have to access the files and download

them for you since you will fail the installed iTunes\iPod software

installation check for the site. I checked iTunesU, and could find no public

*backdoor* area [even the xml page requires iTunes]. Or as you have

suggested, perhaps the school's library or computer area can be used to do

so..

If you could then tranfer that downloaded lecture/class notes to some

mobile storage device, you could possibly then use a non-official PodCast

viewer/player on your 98 system after loading on your hard drive.. however,

you may have another stumbling block: requires QuickTime [7.1.6], though

perhaps that has also been addressed within an unofficial application ...

Here's another one.

http://www.yamipod.com

http://www.yamipod.com/main/modules/docs/

Anyway, seems we've come to a close on the issue. SOL

| > | >

| > | > --

| > | > MEB

| > | > ________

| > | >

| >

| > --

| > MEB

| > ________

| >

| Angel

| >

--

MEB

http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

________

September 12, 2007

Re: Security Concerns with Windows

Re: Security Concerns with Windows

Ah Dan, having been both side of the coin hacker/security, I'll make this

brief.

There is no truly unbreakable security. The only way the government has

found is to completely destroy all materials, and run a separate network

from any public access. Even then security can and has been breached.

A network ALWAYS has tracks to follow.

However, posting as you do, it is no wonder that you were attacked. Likely

some beginning hacker, cutting their teeth...

I mean nothing personal, just that you need to get a little more savvy out

here, and calm down. There was an old saying: "Loose lips sink ships."

As for Cisco issues, yes, I had posted that in this group.

--

MEB

http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

________

September 12, 2007

Re: Security Concerns with Windows

Re: Security Concerns with Windows

Thanks MEB.

"MEB" wrote:

> Ah Dan, having been both side of the coin hacker/security, I'll make this

> brief.

>

> There is no truly unbreakable security. The only way the government has

> found is to completely destroy all materials, and run a separate network

> from any public access. Even then security can and has been breached.

>

> A network ALWAYS has tracks to follow.

>

> However, posting as you do, it is no wonder that you were attacked. Likely

> some beginning hacker, cutting their teeth...

> I mean nothing personal, just that you need to get a little more savvy out

> here, and calm down. There was an old saying: "Loose lips sink ships."

>

> As for Cisco issues, yes, I had posted that in this group.

>

> --

> MEB

> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> ________

>

September 12, 2007

Re: iTunes 7.3.2

Hi MEB,

No problem with the combining the thread.

I understand the problem with trying to even download the Podcasts

using my computer. Even if I can access the lecture notes at the library

they would be in voice, as I understand it. Then I would have trouble

getting them to my computer. The last time I used the computer at the

library there was no sound. If they still have no sound, then I would not be

able to hear them. I will have to check on that before I even try. If they

had speakers or earphone capability, I could hear them. I would have to take

notes as I do in class.

I also understand that I would have to have iTunes capability on the

computer in order to transfer the lectures. The only portable devices I have

is s Sandisk flash drive and a floppy disk

I also found that the Apple Co. has again upgraded the version to

7.4.1 as of last night. I do not know what the version is today. It looks

like they upgrade it almost every week!! At the Apple Site, they had someone

giving a presentation and you had to have Quick Time 7 to see it. I could

hear it but could not see it. It was about the new iPod.

Thank you so very much for the explanation of things and help. I will

let you all know what happens.

Angel

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:edBJgaQ9HHA.464@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>

> Excuse this, but this thread was splitting apart, so I cut and pasted

from

> your other answer to this one.

>

> "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message

> news:uLHN1wL9HHA.5404@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> | {in line below}

> |

> | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> | news:OYBLh1K9HHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> | > "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message

> | > news:O%23cWWLB9HHA.600@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> | > |

> | > | "Vince" <nobody@home.invalid> wrote in message

> | > | news:6plae3lv2krb0i3io9tetleddt5ie45bsd@4ax.com...

> | > | > On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 14:42:28 -0400, "Angel" <angel@noway.com>

wrote:

> | > | >

> | > | > >Some podcasts do work without iTunes. Example: 1.1. Our teacher

> uses

> | > the

> | > | > >iTunes 7.3.2. I have tried his links without the iTunes and I

could

> | not

> | > | get

> | > | > >it. Maybe his link was wrong, I will keep trying. I found the

> iTunes

> | > | 7.3.2

> | > | > >by Googling it. The site said that Windows 2000 was required.

The

> | > newer

> | > | > >version 7.4 requires XP or later.

> | > | >

> | > | > The real question is - where is he distributing his content? If

> it's

> | > | > only available from the Apple iTunes web site, it's iTunes only.

If

> | > | > it's available from another web site, via RSS or some other

vehicle,

> | > | > you should be able to download the content and access it with

> programs

> | > | > that work on Windows 98.

> |

> | All I know about it is that you need iTunes to get the podcast

notes.

> | The instructions say, that "after you download the iTunes Version 7.3.2,

> | then restart the computer. Use the link again. Once you arrive at the

> | Univesity's region of the iTunes network, navigate to the Arts and

> Sciences

> | icon, click on that. then click on the course of his that you want, then

> | click on the podcast you want, and then it should start for you."

> | When I used his link it did not work. When I typed his link in the

> | address bar it came up at the Apple website to download the Version 7.4.

> | The link I sent you was the link from the Help Desk of the library not

> | his.This was the link that they said to use to download the Version

7.3.2.

> | Angel

>

> Again, understood. So as you were advised, if its on the Apple iTunes

site

> as a pod cast, either you find some software to access it or you will have

> to access it from some other computer.

>

> |

> | >

> | > "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message

> | > news:O0DotTJ9HHA.4880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> | > | MEB,

> | > | I am not trying to download anything to the iTunes. I am trying

> to

> | > get

> | > | the notes that our professor downloads to iTunes. His podcasts of

the

> | > | classes. You need the 7.3.2 version to get his notes. So that is as

> | simple

> | > | as I can describe the problem. The Link that the dept. gave me won't

> | work.

> | > | So I guess that the best I can do is try to get it up at the

> University.

> | > If

> | > | that does not work, then I am OOL! Oh, well, that's life!!

> | > | Angel

> | >

> | > Okay, that was already understood.

> | > What I was indirectly trying to show was; that if one intends to

> attempt

> | > iPod/iTunes usage in 9X/ME, one will likely need to use a

*non-official*

> | > program or pluggin during the attempt. Though the iPod can be used for

> | > pretty much anything, i.e. from a mobile *hard drive* to a music/video

> | > player [depending upon the hardware version/supported aspects], to

> provide

> | > this in an *unsupported* OS like 9X apparently requires something

other

> | than

> | > one of Apple's official versions.

> | >

> | > Several parties on the NET are working on *pluggins* and/or programs

to

> | > allow such usage, but these will NEVER be official *Apple authorized*

> for

> | > 9X/ME as Apple never really intended such usage. Apple is also

> constantly

> | > creating newer versions which apparently are NOT compatible with

> previous

> | > versions. One could reasonably claim this is done to ensure Apple

> remains

> | in

> | > control of its products and software necessary to use them. One could

> also

> | > raise claim that this may be an attempt to force iPod users to upgrade

> the

> | > device. I have seen materials which claim Apple feels that four years

> [or

> | > less] is the *life* of one of its devices.

> | > That, of course, remains the major points of contention to the users

of

> | > Apple's products, be the user running 9X/ME or one of the officially

> | > supported applications from Apple..

> | >

> | > |

> | > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> | > | news:%23KFKqiF9HHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> | > | >

> | >

http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/win/29621&vid=44272&mode=inf

> | > | > | Maybe you can try to find out if it will work. It took me to

a

> | page

> | > | and

> | > | > | would not even try to download.

> | > | > | Thanks,

> | > | > | Angel

> | > | > |

> | > | >

> | > | > Tried that link, no luck, though it will show info back to

version

> | 4.1

> | > | > [2003].

> | > | >

> | > | > Are you downloading TO an iPod, or are you trying from your hard

> | drive,

> |

> | No, I do not have an iPod. My teacher does.

>

> Right, and there lay the problem. If you had an iPod then this discussion

> would be leading in a different direction.

>

> |

> | > | or

> | > | > directly from the NET?

> |

> | From the NET, I guess.

>

> Right, and off of Apple's own site apparently.

>

> |

> | > | >

> | > | > How about these for 98SE:

> | > | >

> | > | > http://www.redchairsoftware.com/anapod/ - costs

> | > | > http://www.98-drivers.com/ipod.html - MUST donate 5 dollars

> | > | >

> | > | > Or how about WinAMP?

> | > | >

> | > | > ALL require that you have an iPod [proprietary format]...

> |

> | What is *an iPod [proprietary format]*

>

> Hmm, think of it like a picture [bmp, gif, jpg, wmf, etc.], or sound

[wav,

> mp3, asf, ogg vorbis, aaif, etc.]. Each differing format requires a

program

> which supports that format.

>

> Podcasts require something that can decrypt/interpret the format. Though

> there are other *podcasts* [non-Apple formats] the ones you're trying to

> access:

>

> 1. Are on an Apple forum/site.

>

> 2. Were created with Apple's software in its format.

>

> 2. And the site checks for iTunes on your computer.

>

> How?

> Here you need to think of something like Adobe Reader. When you access a

> site with a PDF, the Reader is called via its BHO hook to access, decode,

> and view the PDF. If you haven't installed Adobe Reader [or a program that

> provides that function AND places a hook] then the site link errors. Your

> only option is to download the PDF, and use some other local PDF viewing

> program to open it.

>

> Same holds true for iTunes/iPodCasts. IF [emphasis] it were possible to

> access the podcast and download it to your computer, then you could use

some

> program [which supports that format] to view/listen to the teacher's

> lecture. OR you have to search for some *player* which supports the

> iPod/iTunes format, works in 98 AND could pass the site check [not

likely].

>

> Apparently though, as the intended podcasts are on Apple [or some

> subsidiary], likely someone else would have to access the files and

download

> them for you since you will fail the installed iTunes\iPod software

> installation check for the site. I checked iTunesU, and could find no

public

> *backdoor* area [even the xml page requires iTunes]. Or as you have

> suggested, perhaps the school's library or computer area can be used to do

> so..

>

> If you could then tranfer that downloaded lecture/class notes to some

> mobile storage device, you could possibly then use a non-official PodCast

> viewer/player on your 98 system after loading on your hard drive..

however,

> you may have another stumbling block: requires QuickTime [7.1.6], though

> perhaps that has also been addressed within an unofficial application ...

>

> Here's another one.

> http://www.yamipod.com

> http://www.yamipod.com/main/modules/docs/

>

> Anyway, seems we've come to a close on the issue. SOL

>

> | > | >

> | > | > --

> | > | > MEB

> | > | > ________

> | > | >

> | >

> | > --

> | > MEB

> | > ________

> | >

> | Angel

> | >

>

> --

> MEB

> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> ________

>

September 13, 2007

Re: iTunes 7.3.2

"Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message

news:%23VwWsYX9HHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

| Hi MEB,

| No problem with the combining the thread.

| I understand the problem with trying to even download the Podcasts

| using my computer. Even if I can access the lecture notes at the library

| they would be in voice, as I understand it. Then I would have trouble

| getting them to my computer. The last time I used the computer at the

| library there was no sound. If they still have no sound, then I would not

be

| able to hear them. I will have to check on that before I even try. If they

| had speakers or earphone capability, I could hear them. I would have to

take

| notes as I do in class.

| I also understand that I would have to have iTunes capability on

the

| computer in order to transfer the lectures. The only portable devices I

have

| is s Sandisk flash drive and a floppy disk

| I also found that the Apple Co. has again upgraded the version to

| 7.4.1 as of last night. I do not know what the version is today. It looks

| like they upgrade it almost every week!! At the Apple Site, they had

someone

| giving a presentation and you had to have Quick Time 7 to see it. I could

| hear it but could not see it. It was about the new iPod.

| Thank you so very much for the explanation of things and help. I

will

| let you all know what happens.

| Angel

Okay, I'll keep looking around occasionally to see if any one makes any

progress on an SE answer.

[Nothing below this but the prior convos]

|

| "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

| news:edBJgaQ9HHA.464@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

| >

| > Excuse this, but this thread was splitting apart, so I cut and pasted

| from

| > your other answer to this one.

| >

| > "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message

| > news:uLHN1wL9HHA.5404@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

| > | {in line below}

| > |

| > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

| > | news:OYBLh1K9HHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

| > | > "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message

| > | > news:O%23cWWLB9HHA.600@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

| > | > |

| > | > | "Vince" <nobody@home.invalid> wrote in message

| > | > | news:6plae3lv2krb0i3io9tetleddt5ie45bsd@4ax.com...

| > | > | > On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 14:42:28 -0400, "Angel" <angel@noway.com>

| wrote:

| > | > | >

| > | > | > >Some podcasts do work without iTunes. Example: 1.1. Our teacher

| > uses

| > | > the

| > | > | > >iTunes 7.3.2. I have tried his links without the iTunes and I

| could

| > | not

| > | > | get

| > | > | > >it. Maybe his link was wrong, I will keep trying. I found the

| > iTunes

| > | > | 7.3.2

| > | > | > >by Googling it. The site said that Windows 2000 was required.

| The

| > | > newer

| > | > | > >version 7.4 requires XP or later.

| > | > | >

| > | > | > The real question is - where is he distributing his content? If

| > it's

| > | > | > only available from the Apple iTunes web site, it's iTunes only.

| If

| > | > | > it's available from another web site, via RSS or some other

| vehicle,

| > | > | > you should be able to download the content and access it with

| > programs

| > | > | > that work on Windows 98.

| > |

| > | All I know about it is that you need iTunes to get the podcast

| notes.

| > | The instructions say, that "after you download the iTunes Version

7.3.2,

| > | then restart the computer. Use the link again. Once you arrive at the

| > | Univesity's region of the iTunes network, navigate to the Arts and

| > Sciences

| > | icon, click on that. then click on the course of his that you want,

then

| > | click on the podcast you want, and then it should start for you."

| > | When I used his link it did not work. When I typed his link in the

| > | address bar it came up at the Apple website to download the Version

7.4.

| > | The link I sent you was the link from the Help Desk of the library

not

| > | his.This was the link that they said to use to download the Version

| 7.3.2.

| > | Angel

| >

| > Again, understood. So as you were advised, if its on the Apple iTunes

| site

| > as a pod cast, either you find some software to access it or you will

have

| > to access it from some other computer.

| >

| > |

| > | >

| > | > "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message

| > | > news:O0DotTJ9HHA.4880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

| > | > | MEB,

| > | > | I am not trying to download anything to the iTunes. I am

trying

| > to

| > | > get

| > | > | the notes that our professor downloads to iTunes. His podcasts of

| the

| > | > | classes. You need the 7.3.2 version to get his notes. So that is

as

| > | simple

| > | > | as I can describe the problem. The Link that the dept. gave me

won't

| > | work.

| > | > | So I guess that the best I can do is try to get it up at the

| > University.

| > | > If

| > | > | that does not work, then I am OOL! Oh, well, that's life!!

| > | > | Angel

| > | >

| > | > Okay, that was already understood.

| > | > What I was indirectly trying to show was; that if one intends to

| > attempt

| > | > iPod/iTunes usage in 9X/ME, one will likely need to use a

| *non-official*

| > | > program or pluggin during the attempt. Though the iPod can be used

for

| > | > pretty much anything, i.e. from a mobile *hard drive* to a

music/video

| > | > player [depending upon the hardware version/supported aspects], to

| > provide

| > | > this in an *unsupported* OS like 9X apparently requires something

| other

| > | than

| > | > one of Apple's official versions.

| > | >

| > | > Several parties on the NET are working on *pluggins* and/or

programs

| to

| > | > allow such usage, but these will NEVER be official *Apple

authorized*

| > for

| > | > 9X/ME as Apple never really intended such usage. Apple is also

| > constantly

| > | > creating newer versions which apparently are NOT compatible with

| > previous

| > | > versions. One could reasonably claim this is done to ensure Apple

| > remains

| > | in

| > | > control of its products and software necessary to use them. One

could

| > also

| > | > raise claim that this may be an attempt to force iPod users to

upgrade

| > the

| > | > device. I have seen materials which claim Apple feels that four

years

| > [or

| > | > less] is the *life* of one of its devices.

| > | > That, of course, remains the major points of contention to the

users

| of

| > | > Apple's products, be the user running 9X/ME or one of the officially

| > | > supported applications from Apple..

| > | >

| > | > |

| > | > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

| > | > | news:%23KFKqiF9HHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

| > | > | >

| > | >

| http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/win/29621&vid=44272&mode=inf

| > | > | > | Maybe you can try to find out if it will work. It took me

to

| a

| > | page

| > | > | and

| > | > | > | would not even try to download.

| > | > | > | Thanks,

| > | > | > | Angel

| > | > | > |

| > | > | >

| > | > | > Tried that link, no luck, though it will show info back to

| version

| > | 4.1

| > | > | > [2003].

| > | > | >

| > | > | > Are you downloading TO an iPod, or are you trying from your

hard

| > | drive,

| > |

| > | No, I do not have an iPod. My teacher does.

| >

| > Right, and there lay the problem. If you had an iPod then this

discussion

| > would be leading in a different direction.

| >

| > |

| > | > | or

| > | > | > directly from the NET?

| > |

| > | From the NET, I guess.

| >

| > Right, and off of Apple's own site apparently.

| >

| > |

| > | > | >

| > | > | > How about these for 98SE:

| > | > | >

| > | > | > http://www.redchairsoftware.com/anapod/ - costs

| > | > | > http://www.98-drivers.com/ipod.html - MUST donate 5 dollars

| > | > | >

| > | > | > Or how about WinAMP?

| > | > | >

| > | > | > ALL require that you have an iPod [proprietary format]...

| > |

| > | What is *an iPod [proprietary format]*

| >

| > Hmm, think of it like a picture [bmp, gif, jpg, wmf, etc.], or sound

| [wav,

| > mp3, asf, ogg vorbis, aaif, etc.]. Each differing format requires a

| program

| > which supports that format.

| >

| > Podcasts require something that can decrypt/interpret the format.

Though

| > there are other *podcasts* [non-Apple formats] the ones you're trying to

| > access:

| >

| > 1. Are on an Apple forum/site.

| >

| > 2. Were created with Apple's software in its format.

| >

| > 2. And the site checks for iTunes on your computer.

| >

| > How?

| > Here you need to think of something like Adobe Reader. When you access

a

| > site with a PDF, the Reader is called via its BHO hook to access,

decode,

| > and view the PDF. If you haven't installed Adobe Reader [or a program

that

| > provides that function AND places a hook] then the site link errors.

Your

| > only option is to download the PDF, and use some other local PDF viewing

| > program to open it.

| >

| > Same holds true for iTunes/iPodCasts. IF [emphasis] it were possible to

| > access the podcast and download it to your computer, then you could use

| some

| > program [which supports that format] to view/listen to the teacher's

| > lecture. OR you have to search for some *player* which supports the

| > iPod/iTunes format, works in 98 AND could pass the site check [not

| likely].

| >

| > Apparently though, as the intended podcasts are on Apple [or some

| > subsidiary], likely someone else would have to access the files and

| download

| > them for you since you will fail the installed iTunes\iPod software

| > installation check for the site. I checked iTunesU, and could find no

| public

| > *backdoor* area [even the xml page requires iTunes]. Or as you have

| > suggested, perhaps the school's library or computer area can be used to

do

| > so..

| >

| > If you could then tranfer that downloaded lecture/class notes to some

| > mobile storage device, you could possibly then use a non-official

PodCast

| > viewer/player on your 98 system after loading on your hard drive..

| however,

| > you may have another stumbling block: requires QuickTime [7.1.6], though

| > perhaps that has also been addressed within an unofficial application

....

| >

| > Here's another one.

| > http://www.yamipod.com

| > http://www.yamipod.com/main/modules/docs/

| >

| > Anyway, seems we've come to a close on the issue. SOL

| >

| > | > | > --

| > | > | > MEB

| > | > | > ________

| > | > --

| > | > MEB

| > | > ________

| > | >

| > | Angel

| > --

| > MEB

| > ________

| >

--

MEB

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