Guest Angel Posted September 6, 2007 Posted September 6, 2007 Hi, Does anyone know where I can get the download for *iTunes 7.3.2*? Will this *iTunes* work with the Windows 98SE? I tried the Apples website and the one they have now is 7.4 and it is for XP and above. The reason I want to know is because I need it for the class notes from the teacher. The teacher does podcasts for his classes. TIA Angel
Guest John Posted September 7, 2007 Posted September 7, 2007 Re: iTunes 7.3.2 No version of iTunes runs on 98SE. "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message news:eOMncQN8HHA.4436@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > Hi, > Does anyone know where I can get the download for *iTunes 7.3.2*? Will > this *iTunes* work with the Windows 98SE? I tried the Apples website and the > one they have now is 7.4 and it is for XP and above. The reason I want to > know is because I need it for the class notes from the teacher. The teacher > does podcasts for his classes. > TIA > Angel > >
Guest Don Phillipson Posted September 7, 2007 Posted September 7, 2007 Re: iTunes 7.3.2 > "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message > news:eOMncQN8HHA.4436@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > > Hi, > > Does anyone know where I can get the download for *iTunes 7.3.2*? Will > > this *iTunes* work with the Windows 98SE? I tried the Apples website and > > the one they have now is 7.4 and it is for XP and above. "John" <nospam@nospam.nospam> wrote in message news:%23GrTSjV8HHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > > No version of iTunes runs on 98SE. Of course this is increasingly common. Linux may offer a cheap solution. PCs that run Linux as well as Win98 sometimes enable Linux connection with devices built exclusively for XP and Vista. -- Don Phillipson Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada)
Guest roman modic Posted September 7, 2007 Posted September 7, 2007 Re: iTunes 7.3.2 Hello! "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message news:eOMncQN8HHA.4436@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > Hi, > know is because I need it for the class notes from the teacher. The teacher > does podcasts for his classes. You don't need iTunes to play podcasts ... Roman
Guest Angel Posted September 7, 2007 Posted September 7, 2007 Re: iTunes 7.3.2 "roman modic" <modicr@astral-it.com> wrote in message news:u%23DsDiW8HHA.3916@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > Hello! > > "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message news:eOMncQN8HHA.4436@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > > Hi, > > know is because I need it for the class notes from the teacher. The teacher > > does podcasts for his classes. > > You don't need iTunes to play podcasts ... > > Roman > Roman, Some podcasts do work without iTunes. Example: 1.1. Our teacher uses the iTunes 7.3.2. I have tried his links without the iTunes and I could not get it. Maybe his link was wrong, I will keep trying. I found the iTunes 7.3.2 by Googling it. The site said that Windows 2000 was required. The newer version 7.4 requires XP or later. Thanks, Angel
Guest Angel Posted September 9, 2007 Posted September 9, 2007 Re: iTunes 7.3.2 "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message news:%23JjyW7X8HHA.2476@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > > "roman modic" <modicr@astral-it.com> wrote in message > news:u%23DsDiW8HHA.3916@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > Hello! > > > > "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message > news:eOMncQN8HHA.4436@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > > > Hi, > > > know is because I need it for the class notes from the teacher. The > teacher > > > does podcasts for his classes. > > > > You don't need iTunes to play podcasts ... > > > > Roman > > > Roman, > Some podcasts do work without iTunes. Example: 1.1. Our teacher uses the > iTunes 7.3.2. I have tried his links without the iTunes and I could not get > it. Maybe his link was wrong, I will keep trying. I found the iTunes 7.3.2 > by Googling it. The site said that Windows 2000 was required. The newer > version 7.4 requires XP or later. > Thanks, > Angel > Hi, Well, the iTunes for podcasts is accessible through the Universities. It is called iTunesU. The one they are using now is Version 7.4. I can't even get the 7.3.2 without paying for it. The teacher said that the 7.3.2 was the one to get. According to the site for iTunesU, it is not. 7.3.2 would not work on this computer anyway. The teachers use iTunes to get the notes from the classes to the students. These are the ones you need the iTunes to access the notes. I guess they think all use the latest technology. When you tell other students that you are still using the Windows 98SE, they look at you with a ? on their faces. and you get a frown from them. Most have fried several computers since 98SE. Mine is still going strong. I spoke to the girl at the reference desk in the library at the University, she said that maybe I could access the notes through the Computer Room in the library. I may try that next week. Today I was speaking to the city Fire Chief at a meeting. He told me that his daughter went back to reinstalling XP. She had Vista and it always was crashing, she hated Vista. Thanks everyone, Angel
Guest Bill in Co. Posted September 9, 2007 Posted September 9, 2007 Re: iTunes 7.3.2 Angel wrote: > "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message > news:%23JjyW7X8HHA.2476@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> >> "roman modic" <modicr@astral-it.com> wrote in message >> news:u%23DsDiW8HHA.3916@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>> Hello! >>> >>> "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message >> news:eOMncQN8HHA.4436@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>> Hi, >>>> know is because I need it for the class notes from the teacher. The teacher >>>> does podcasts for his classes. >>> >>> You don't need iTunes to play podcasts ... >>> >>> Roman >>> >> Roman, >> Some podcasts do work without iTunes. Example: 1.1. Our teacher uses the >> iTunes 7.3.2. I have tried his links without the iTunes and I could not get >> it. Maybe his link was wrong, I will keep trying. I found the iTunes 7.3.2 >> by Googling it. The site said that Windows 2000 was required. The newer >> version 7.4 requires XP or later. >> Thanks, >> Angel If it works on Win2K, which is a bit dated, too, maybe there is a slight chance it might work on Win98SE? Have you tried installing it? I've done that sometimes, and, on some rare occasions, a program will install, even though it didn't mention Win98SE as being "supported". Of course, a lot of the time the installer just flat out balks, and says "No way, Jose!". However, if you're planning on trying this, you probably should have a good and recent system backup, just in case it messes up. I use a backup USB 2.0 hard drive enclosure (containing an identical IDE hard disk) for this kind of work.
Guest Angel Posted September 9, 2007 Posted September 9, 2007 Re: iTunes 7.3.2 "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:eYfaV5n8HHA.5316@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > Angel wrote: > > "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message > > news:%23JjyW7X8HHA.2476@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > >> > >> "roman modic" <modicr@astral-it.com> wrote in message > >> news:u%23DsDiW8HHA.3916@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > >>> Hello! > >>> > >>> "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message > >> news:eOMncQN8HHA.4436@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > >>>> Hi, > >>>> know is because I need it for the class notes from the teacher. The > teacher > >>>> does podcasts for his classes. > >>> > >>> You don't need iTunes to play podcasts ... > >>> > >>> Roman > >>> > >> Roman, > >> Some podcasts do work without iTunes. Example: 1.1. Our teacher uses the > >> iTunes 7.3.2. I have tried his links without the iTunes and I could not > get > >> it. Maybe his link was wrong, I will keep trying. I found the iTunes > 7.3.2 > >> by Googling it. The site said that Windows 2000 was required. The newer > >> version 7.4 requires XP or later. > >> Thanks, > >> Angel > > If it works on Win2K, which is a bit dated, too, maybe there is a slight > chance it might work on Win98SE? Have you tried installing it? I've > done that sometimes, and, on some rare occasions, a program will install, > even though it didn't mention Win98SE as being "supported". Of course, a > lot of the time the installer just flat out balks, and says "No way, Jose!". > However, if you're planning on trying this, you probably should have a good > and recent system backup, just in case it messes up. I use a backup USB > 2.0 hard drive enclosure (containing an identical IDE hard disk) for this > kind of work. > Hi Bill, I usually use the backup that came with the computer (Drive Image) to backup the computer about every week or so. I don't have USB 2.0. The only have (2) 1.1 USB ports. I would have to get the USB 2.0 port for it and the EHD. I would have to get my grandson put it in for me. He is good at things with the computers. I have too much electricity in my own system, I would be afraid that I would fry the motherboard. Of course, I know the precautions. The 7.3.2 iTunes as I understand it is the old one, some companies are using it for their music now and ask for a yearly fee to use it. The one the University uses now is free and it is 7.4 under iTunesU. When I read about it, you need XP or Vista to use it. I will try to find out more from the University Computer Room that is located in the Library Building. I had also put out a question to the Technical dept. at the University concerning this question about using an older version on 98SE to get the notes. I do not want to have to buy a new computer just for classes. If I was going for a diploma, I would probably do it. I am auditing the classes. This does not warrant the expense of a new computer. I am enjoying the classes. I learn something new almost everyday. Angel
Guest Vince Posted September 10, 2007 Posted September 10, 2007 Re: iTunes 7.3.2 On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 14:42:28 -0400, "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote: >Some podcasts do work without iTunes. Example: 1.1. Our teacher uses the >iTunes 7.3.2. I have tried his links without the iTunes and I could not get >it. Maybe his link was wrong, I will keep trying. I found the iTunes 7.3.2 >by Googling it. The site said that Windows 2000 was required. The newer >version 7.4 requires XP or later. The real question is - where is he distributing his content? If it's only available from the Apple iTunes web site, it's iTunes only. If it's available from another web site, via RSS or some other vehicle, you should be able to download the content and access it with programs that work on Windows 98. What is the URI for his content/class notes?
Guest Vince Posted September 10, 2007 Posted September 10, 2007 Re: iTunes 7.3.2 On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 09:44:37 -0500, Vince <nobody@home.invalid> wrote: >The real question is - where is he distributing his content? If it's >only available from the Apple iTunes web site, it's iTunes only. Oops. Googled for iTunesU. It's the Apple web site! iTunes only! You're out of luck. Working with the folks at the University library is your best bet at this point.
Guest Angel Posted September 11, 2007 Posted September 11, 2007 Re: iTunes 7.3.2 "Vince" <nobody@home.invalid> wrote in message news:6plae3lv2krb0i3io9tetleddt5ie45bsd@4ax.com... > On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 14:42:28 -0400, "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote: > > >Some podcasts do work without iTunes. Example: 1.1. Our teacher uses the > >iTunes 7.3.2. I have tried his links without the iTunes and I could not get > >it. Maybe his link was wrong, I will keep trying. I found the iTunes 7.3.2 > >by Googling it. The site said that Windows 2000 was required. The newer > >version 7.4 requires XP or later. > > The real question is - where is he distributing his content? If it's > only available from the Apple iTunes web site, it's iTunes only. If > it's available from another web site, via RSS or some other vehicle, > you should be able to download the content and access it with programs > that work on Windows 98. > > What is the URI for his content/class notes? Vince, When I tried his link it took me to the download page from Apple. It wanted you to download a later version. 7.4. Today I got an email from the help desk at the University with a link to download 7.3.2. I tried the link and it would not download that version. The link is: http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/win/29621&vid=44272&mode=inf Maybe you can try to find out if it will work. It took me to a page and would not even try to download. Thanks, Angel
Guest MEB Posted September 11, 2007 Posted September 11, 2007 Re: iTunes 7.3.2 "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message news:O%23cWWLB9HHA.600@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... | | "Vince" <nobody@home.invalid> wrote in message | news:6plae3lv2krb0i3io9tetleddt5ie45bsd@4ax.com... | > On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 14:42:28 -0400, "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote: | > | > >Some podcasts do work without iTunes. Example: 1.1. Our teacher uses the | > >iTunes 7.3.2. I have tried his links without the iTunes and I could not | get | > >it. Maybe his link was wrong, I will keep trying. I found the iTunes | 7.3.2 | > >by Googling it. The site said that Windows 2000 was required. The newer | > >version 7.4 requires XP or later. | > | > The real question is - where is he distributing his content? If it's | > only available from the Apple iTunes web site, it's iTunes only. If | > it's available from another web site, via RSS or some other vehicle, | > you should be able to download the content and access it with programs | > that work on Windows 98. | > | > What is the URI for his content/class notes? | | Vince, | When I tried his link it took me to the download page from Apple. It | wanted you to download a later version. 7.4. | Today I got an email from the help desk at the University with a link to | download 7.3.2. I tried the link and it would not download that version. The | link is: | http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/win/29621&vid=44272&mode=inf | Maybe you can try to find out if it will work. It took me to a page and | would not even try to download. | Thanks, | Angel | | Tried that link, no luck, though it will show info back to version 4.1 [2003]. Are you downloading TO an iPod, or are you trying from your hard drive, or directly from the NET? How about these for 98SE: http://www.redchairsoftware.com/anapod/ - costs http://www.98-drivers.com/ipod.html - MUST donate 5 dollars Or how about WinAMP? ALL require that you have an iPod [proprietary format]... -- MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com ________
Guest Dan Posted September 11, 2007 Posted September 11, 2007 Re: iTunes 7.3.2 Interesting Discussion. MEB, do you know if it is possible to run your Ipod songs through Windows 98 SE and has anyone successfully accomplished this task. I tried myself a while back with my Ipod Mini but did not have any success. "MEB" wrote: > > > "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message > news:O%23cWWLB9HHA.600@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > | > | "Vince" <nobody@home.invalid> wrote in message > | news:6plae3lv2krb0i3io9tetleddt5ie45bsd@4ax.com... > | > On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 14:42:28 -0400, "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote: > | > > | > >Some podcasts do work without iTunes. Example: 1.1. Our teacher uses > the > | > >iTunes 7.3.2. I have tried his links without the iTunes and I could not > | get > | > >it. Maybe his link was wrong, I will keep trying. I found the iTunes > | 7.3.2 > | > >by Googling it. The site said that Windows 2000 was required. The > newer > | > >version 7.4 requires XP or later. > | > > | > The real question is - where is he distributing his content? If it's > | > only available from the Apple iTunes web site, it's iTunes only. If > | > it's available from another web site, via RSS or some other vehicle, > | > you should be able to download the content and access it with programs > | > that work on Windows 98. > | > > | > What is the URI for his content/class notes? > | > | Vince, > | When I tried his link it took me to the download page from Apple. > It > | wanted you to download a later version. 7.4. > | Today I got an email from the help desk at the University with a link to > | download 7.3.2. I tried the link and it would not download that version. > The > | link is: > | http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/win/29621&vid=44272&mode=inf > | Maybe you can try to find out if it will work. It took me to a page and > | would not even try to download. > | Thanks, > | Angel > | > | > > Tried that link, no luck, though it will show info back to version 4.1 > [2003]. > > Are you downloading TO an iPod, or are you trying from your hard drive, or > directly from the NET? > > How about these for 98SE: > > http://www.redchairsoftware.com/anapod/ - costs > http://www.98-drivers.com/ipod.html - MUST donate 5 dollars > > Or how about WinAMP? > > ALL require that you have an iPod [proprietary format]... > > -- > MEB > http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com > ________ > > > >
Guest John Posted September 11, 2007 Posted September 11, 2007 Re: iTunes 7.3.2 Dan, I don't know what you mean by "run your Ipod songs through Windows 98 SE" but you can use Xplay from http://www.mediafour.com to load mp3s on his nano on his 98SE system. If by "Ipod songs" you mean "iTunes purchases" I don't think they are playable on 98SE but I could be wrong. Good luck. "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:BD3447AE-36F3-406A-A208-07B7C14254FC@microsoft.com... > Interesting Discussion. MEB, do you know if it is possible to run your Ipod > songs through Windows 98 SE and has anyone successfully accomplished this > task. I tried myself a while back with my Ipod Mini but did not have any > success. >
Guest Angel Posted September 11, 2007 Posted September 11, 2007 Re: iTunes 7.3.2 MEB, I am not trying to download anything to the iTunes. I am trying to get the notes that our professor downloads to iTunes. His podcasts of the classes. You need the 7.3.2 version to get his notes. So that is as simple as I can describe the problem. The Link that the dept. gave me won't work. So I guess that the best I can do is try to get it up at the University. If that does not work, then I am OOL! Oh, well, that's life!! Angel "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:%23KFKqiF9HHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > > > "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message > news:O%23cWWLB9HHA.600@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > | > | "Vince" <nobody@home.invalid> wrote in message > | news:6plae3lv2krb0i3io9tetleddt5ie45bsd@4ax.com... > | > On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 14:42:28 -0400, "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote: > | > > | > >Some podcasts do work without iTunes. Example: 1.1. Our teacher uses > the > | > >iTunes 7.3.2. I have tried his links without the iTunes and I could not > | get > | > >it. Maybe his link was wrong, I will keep trying. I found the iTunes > | 7.3.2 > | > >by Googling it. The site said that Windows 2000 was required. The > newer > | > >version 7.4 requires XP or later. > | > > | > The real question is - where is he distributing his content? If it's > | > only available from the Apple iTunes web site, it's iTunes only. If > | > it's available from another web site, via RSS or some other vehicle, > | > you should be able to download the content and access it with programs > | > that work on Windows 98. > | > > | > What is the URI for his content/class notes? > | > | Vince, > | When I tried his link it took me to the download page from Apple. > It > | wanted you to download a later version. 7.4. > | Today I got an email from the help desk at the University with a link to > | download 7.3.2. I tried the link and it would not download that version. > The > | link is: > | http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/win/29621&vid=44272&mode=inf > | Maybe you can try to find out if it will work. It took me to a page and > | would not even try to download. > | Thanks, > | Angel > | > | > > Tried that link, no luck, though it will show info back to version 4.1 > [2003]. > > Are you downloading TO an iPod, or are you trying from your hard drive, or > directly from the NET? > > How about these for 98SE: > > http://www.redchairsoftware.com/anapod/ - costs > http://www.98-drivers.com/ipod.html - MUST donate 5 dollars > > Or how about WinAMP? > > ALL require that you have an iPod [proprietary format]... > > -- > MEB > http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com > ________ > > >
Guest MEB Posted September 11, 2007 Posted September 11, 2007 Re: iTunes 7.3.2 "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message news:O0DotTJ9HHA.4880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... | MEB, | I am not trying to download anything to the iTunes. I am trying to get | the notes that our professor downloads to iTunes. His podcasts of the | classes. You need the 7.3.2 version to get his notes. So that is as simple | as I can describe the problem. The Link that the dept. gave me won't work. | So I guess that the best I can do is try to get it up at the University. If | that does not work, then I am OOL! Oh, well, that's life!! | Angel Okay, that was already understood. What I was indirectly trying to show was; that if one intends to attempt iPod/iTunes usage in 9X/ME, one will likely need to use a *non-official* program or pluggin during the attempt. Though the iPod can be used for pretty much anything, i.e. from a mobile *hard drive* to a music/video player [depending upon the hardware version/supported aspects], to provide this in an *unsupported* OS like 9X apparently requires something other than one of Apple's official versions. Several parties on the NET are working on *pluggins* and/or programs to allow such usage, but these will NEVER be official *Apple authorized* for 9X/ME as Apple never really intended such usage. Apple is also constantly creating newer versions which apparently are NOT compatible with previous versions. One could reasonably claim this is done to ensure Apple remains in control of its products and software necessary to use them. One could also raise claim that this may be an attempt to force iPod users to upgrade the device. I have seen materials which claim Apple feels that four years [or less] is the *life* of one of its devices. That, of course, remains the major points of contention to the users of Apple's products, be the user running 9X/ME or one of the officially supported applications from Apple.. | | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message | news:%23KFKqiF9HHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... | > | > | > "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message | > news:O%23cWWLB9HHA.600@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... | > | | > | "Vince" <nobody@home.invalid> wrote in message | > | news:6plae3lv2krb0i3io9tetleddt5ie45bsd@4ax.com... | > | > On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 14:42:28 -0400, "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote: | > | > | > | > >Some podcasts do work without iTunes. Example: 1.1. Our teacher uses | > the | > | > >iTunes 7.3.2. I have tried his links without the iTunes and I could | not | > | get | > | > >it. Maybe his link was wrong, I will keep trying. I found the iTunes | > | 7.3.2 | > | > >by Googling it. The site said that Windows 2000 was required. The | > newer | > | > >version 7.4 requires XP or later. | > | > | > | > The real question is - where is he distributing his content? If it's | > | > only available from the Apple iTunes web site, it's iTunes only. If | > | > it's available from another web site, via RSS or some other vehicle, | > | > you should be able to download the content and access it with programs | > | > that work on Windows 98. | > | > | > | > What is the URI for his content/class notes? | > | | > | Vince, | > | When I tried his link it took me to the download page from | Apple. | > It | > | wanted you to download a later version. 7.4. | > | Today I got an email from the help desk at the University with a link to | > | download 7.3.2. I tried the link and it would not download that version. | > The | > | link is: | > | http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/win/29621&vid=44272&mode=inf | > | Maybe you can try to find out if it will work. It took me to a page | and | > | would not even try to download. | > | Thanks, | > | Angel | > | | > | | > | > Tried that link, no luck, though it will show info back to version 4.1 | > [2003]. | > | > Are you downloading TO an iPod, or are you trying from your hard drive, | or | > directly from the NET? | > | > How about these for 98SE: | > | > http://www.redchairsoftware.com/anapod/ - costs | > http://www.98-drivers.com/ipod.html - MUST donate 5 dollars | > | > Or how about WinAMP? | > | > ALL require that you have an iPod [proprietary format]... | > | > -- | > MEB | > ________ | > -- MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com ________
Guest Angel Posted September 11, 2007 Posted September 11, 2007 Re: iTunes 7.3.2 "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:%23KFKqiF9HHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > > > "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message > news:O%23cWWLB9HHA.600@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > | > | "Vince" <nobody@home.invalid> wrote in message > | news:6plae3lv2krb0i3io9tetleddt5ie45bsd@4ax.com... > | > On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 14:42:28 -0400, "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote: > | > > | > >Some podcasts do work without iTunes. Example: 1.1. Our teacher uses > the > | > >iTunes 7.3.2. I have tried his links without the iTunes and I could not > | get > | > >it. Maybe his link was wrong, I will keep trying. I found the iTunes > | 7.3.2 > | > >by Googling it. The site said that Windows 2000 was required. The > newer > | > >version 7.4 requires XP or later. > | > > | > The real question is - where is he distributing his content? If it's > | > only available from the Apple iTunes web site, it's iTunes only. If > | > it's available from another web site, via RSS or some other vehicle, > | > you should be able to download the content and access it with programs > | > that work on Windows 98. All I know about it is that you need iTunes to get the podcast notes. The instructions say, that "after you download the iTunes Version 7.3.2, then restart the computer. Use the link again. Once you arrive at the Univesity's region of the iTunes network, navigate to the Arts and Sciences icon, click on that. then click on the course of his that you want, then click on the podcast you want, and then it should start for you." When I used his link it did not work. When I typed his link in the address bar it came up at the Apple website to download the Version 7.4. The link I sent you was the link from the Help Desk of the library not his.This was the link that they said to use to download the Version 7.3.2. Angel > | > > | > What is the URI for his content/class notes? > | > | Vince, > | When I tried his link it took me to the download page from Apple. > It > | wanted you to download a later version. 7.4. > | Today I got an email from the help desk at the University with a link to > | download 7.3.2. I tried the link and it would not download that version. > The > | link is: > | http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/win/29621&vid=44272&mode=inf > | Maybe you can try to find out if it will work. It took me to a page and > | would not even try to download. > | Thanks, > | Angel > | > | > > Tried that link, no luck, though it will show info back to version 4.1 > [2003]. > > Are you downloading TO an iPod, or are you trying from your hard drive, or > directly from the NET? > > How about these for 98SE: > > http://www.redchairsoftware.com/anapod/ - costs > http://www.98-drivers.com/ipod.html - MUST donate 5 dollars > > Or how about WinAMP? > > ALL require that you have an iPod [proprietary format]... > > -- > MEB > http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com > ________ > > >
Guest Angel Posted September 11, 2007 Posted September 11, 2007 Re: iTunes 7.3.2 {in line below} "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:OYBLh1K9HHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > > > "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message > news:O0DotTJ9HHA.4880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > | MEB, > | I am not trying to download anything to the iTunes. I am trying to > get > | the notes that our professor downloads to iTunes. His podcasts of the > | classes. You need the 7.3.2 version to get his notes. So that is as simple > | as I can describe the problem. The Link that the dept. gave me won't work. > | So I guess that the best I can do is try to get it up at the University. > If > | that does not work, then I am OOL! Oh, well, that's life!! > | Angel > > Okay, that was already understood. > What I was indirectly trying to show was; that if one intends to attempt > iPod/iTunes usage in 9X/ME, one will likely need to use a *non-official* > program or pluggin during the attempt. Though the iPod can be used for > pretty much anything, i.e. from a mobile *hard drive* to a music/video > player [depending upon the hardware version/supported aspects], to provide > this in an *unsupported* OS like 9X apparently requires something other than > one of Apple's official versions. > > Several parties on the NET are working on *pluggins* and/or programs to > allow such usage, but these will NEVER be official *Apple authorized* for > 9X/ME as Apple never really intended such usage. Apple is also constantly > creating newer versions which apparently are NOT compatible with previous > versions. One could reasonably claim this is done to ensure Apple remains in > control of its products and software necessary to use them. One could also > raise claim that this may be an attempt to force iPod users to upgrade the > device. I have seen materials which claim Apple feels that four years [or > less] is the *life* of one of its devices. > That, of course, remains the major points of contention to the users of > Apple's products, be the user running 9X/ME or one of the officially > supported applications from Apple.. > > | > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message > | news:%23KFKqiF9HHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > | > > | > > | > "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message > | > news:O%23cWWLB9HHA.600@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > | > | > | > | "Vince" <nobody@home.invalid> wrote in message > | > | news:6plae3lv2krb0i3io9tetleddt5ie45bsd@4ax.com... > | > | > On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 14:42:28 -0400, "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote: > | > | > > | > | > >Some podcasts do work without iTunes. Example: 1.1. Our teacher > uses > | > the > | > | > >iTunes 7.3.2. I have tried his links without the iTunes and I could > | not > | > | get > | > | > >it. Maybe his link was wrong, I will keep trying. I found the > iTunes > | > | 7.3.2 > | > | > >by Googling it. The site said that Windows 2000 was required. The > | > newer > | > | > >version 7.4 requires XP or later. > | > | > > | > | > The real question is - where is he distributing his content? If > it's > | > | > only available from the Apple iTunes web site, it's iTunes only. If > | > | > it's available from another web site, via RSS or some other vehicle, > | > | > you should be able to download the content and access it with > programs > | > | > that work on Windows 98. > | > | > > | > | > What is the URI for his content/class notes? > | > | > | > | Vince, > | > | When I tried his link it took me to the download page from > | Apple. > | > It > | > | wanted you to download a later version. 7.4. > | > | Today I got an email from the help desk at the University with a link > to > | > | download 7.3.2. I tried the link and it would not download that > version. > | > The > | > | link is: > | > | > http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/win/29621&vid=44272&mode=inf > | > | Maybe you can try to find out if it will work. It took me to a page > | and > | > | would not even try to download. > | > | Thanks, > | > | Angel > | > | > | > | > | > > | > Tried that link, no luck, though it will show info back to version 4.1 > | > [2003]. > | > > | > Are you downloading TO an iPod, or are you trying from your hard drive, No, I do not have an iPod. My teacher does. > | or > | > directly from the NET? From the NET, I guess. > | > > | > How about these for 98SE: > | > > | > http://www.redchairsoftware.com/anapod/ - costs > | > http://www.98-drivers.com/ipod.html - MUST donate 5 dollars > | > > | > Or how about WinAMP? > | > > | > ALL require that you have an iPod [proprietary format]... What is *an iPod [proprietary format]* > | > > | > -- > | > MEB > | > ________ > | > > > -- > MEB > http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com > ________ > Angel >
Guest Dan Posted September 12, 2007 Posted September 12, 2007 Security Concerns with Windows Security Concerns with Windows 4 years or less --- wow that makes Microsoft seem like a saint in comparison with thier support of Windows 98 and 98 Second Edition from 1998/1999 until July 11, 2006 which is really awesome on Microsoft's part in my opinion. Now lest you think I am totally for Microsoft you must remember that I feel that eliminating the 9x operating systems was Microsoft's major mistake and I know Microsoft wanted to cut down on costs but with cutting down on costs Microsoft allowed for hackers to attack their products more easily. I am talking about how XP and even Vista which are NT (New Technology) based the business source code as compared to the 9x consumer source code of 98 and 98 Second Edition. The surface attack area is much greater in these current NT products because they provide many more opportunities of attack. Yes, Vista is much more secure than XP but also is currently less backwards compatible than XP. Yes, Vista has 256 bit cipher strength in Internet Explorer which not even XP Professional has currently. You can just go to the help and about tab to prove this fact that the cipher strength of IE 6 and 7 in Windows XP Professional is still only 128 bit compared to 256 bit cipher strength. I was really worried and freaked out before because it was so scary to have someone hack or steal my password somehow through 128 bit encryption of webmail.aps.edu and my email of weiser_dan@aps.edu. It was also scary to have someone or many people --- I don't know --- hack through my home computer which is connected via an ethernet wire so it is not wireless and has full stealth status of at least over 1000 ports according to the Shields Up Test at grc.com. This is really crazy since I am really careful to read emails in plain texts, not open up attachments, use AVG antivirus full scans frequently and it updates daily automatically as well as using the protections of Spybot Search and Destroy and SpywareBlaster from Majorgeeks.com. I think the person was able to take advantage of vulnerability(ies) in Cisco VPN access which allowed me to acess the APS (Albuquerque Public School) network at home and which I had been granted full access from by Ken Cole who is the Director of Technology at APS schools. Anyway, it seems the hack happened through the vulnerabilities in VPN (Virtual Private Networking) access and the Department of Homeland security website has mentioned some current vulnerabilites with Cisco VPN access that may have been patched by now. I am an email subscriber now to the us-cert site. <cut for length concerns>
Guest MEB Posted September 12, 2007 Posted September 12, 2007 Re: iTunes 7.3.2 Excuse this, but this thread was splitting apart, so I cut and pasted from your other answer to this one. "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message news:uLHN1wL9HHA.5404@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... | {in line below} | | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message | news:OYBLh1K9HHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... | > "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message | > news:O%23cWWLB9HHA.600@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... | > | | > | "Vince" <nobody@home.invalid> wrote in message | > | news:6plae3lv2krb0i3io9tetleddt5ie45bsd@4ax.com... | > | > On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 14:42:28 -0400, "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote: | > | > | > | > >Some podcasts do work without iTunes. Example: 1.1. Our teacher uses | > the | > | > >iTunes 7.3.2. I have tried his links without the iTunes and I could | not | > | get | > | > >it. Maybe his link was wrong, I will keep trying. I found the iTunes | > | 7.3.2 | > | > >by Googling it. The site said that Windows 2000 was required. The | > newer | > | > >version 7.4 requires XP or later. | > | > | > | > The real question is - where is he distributing his content? If it's | > | > only available from the Apple iTunes web site, it's iTunes only. If | > | > it's available from another web site, via RSS or some other vehicle, | > | > you should be able to download the content and access it with programs | > | > that work on Windows 98. | | All I know about it is that you need iTunes to get the podcast notes. | The instructions say, that "after you download the iTunes Version 7.3.2, | then restart the computer. Use the link again. Once you arrive at the | Univesity's region of the iTunes network, navigate to the Arts and Sciences | icon, click on that. then click on the course of his that you want, then | click on the podcast you want, and then it should start for you." | When I used his link it did not work. When I typed his link in the | address bar it came up at the Apple website to download the Version 7.4. | The link I sent you was the link from the Help Desk of the library not | his.This was the link that they said to use to download the Version 7.3.2. | Angel Again, understood. So as you were advised, if its on the Apple iTunes site as a pod cast, either you find some software to access it or you will have to access it from some other computer. | | > | > | > "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message | > news:O0DotTJ9HHA.4880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... | > | MEB, | > | I am not trying to download anything to the iTunes. I am trying to | > get | > | the notes that our professor downloads to iTunes. His podcasts of the | > | classes. You need the 7.3.2 version to get his notes. So that is as | simple | > | as I can describe the problem. The Link that the dept. gave me won't | work. | > | So I guess that the best I can do is try to get it up at the University. | > If | > | that does not work, then I am OOL! Oh, well, that's life!! | > | Angel | > | > Okay, that was already understood. | > What I was indirectly trying to show was; that if one intends to attempt | > iPod/iTunes usage in 9X/ME, one will likely need to use a *non-official* | > program or pluggin during the attempt. Though the iPod can be used for | > pretty much anything, i.e. from a mobile *hard drive* to a music/video | > player [depending upon the hardware version/supported aspects], to provide | > this in an *unsupported* OS like 9X apparently requires something other | than | > one of Apple's official versions. | > | > Several parties on the NET are working on *pluggins* and/or programs to | > allow such usage, but these will NEVER be official *Apple authorized* for | > 9X/ME as Apple never really intended such usage. Apple is also constantly | > creating newer versions which apparently are NOT compatible with previous | > versions. One could reasonably claim this is done to ensure Apple remains | in | > control of its products and software necessary to use them. One could also | > raise claim that this may be an attempt to force iPod users to upgrade the | > device. I have seen materials which claim Apple feels that four years [or | > less] is the *life* of one of its devices. | > That, of course, remains the major points of contention to the users of | > Apple's products, be the user running 9X/ME or one of the officially | > supported applications from Apple.. | > | > | | > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message | > | news:%23KFKqiF9HHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... | > | > | > | > | > http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/win/29621&vid=44272&mode=inf | > | > | Maybe you can try to find out if it will work. It took me to a | page | > | and | > | > | would not even try to download. | > | > | Thanks, | > | > | Angel | > | > | | > | > | | > | > | > | > Tried that link, no luck, though it will show info back to version | 4.1 | > | > [2003]. | > | > | > | > Are you downloading TO an iPod, or are you trying from your hard | drive, | | No, I do not have an iPod. My teacher does. Right, and there lay the problem. If you had an iPod then this discussion would be leading in a different direction. | | > | or | > | > directly from the NET? | | From the NET, I guess. Right, and off of Apple's own site apparently. | | > | > | > | > How about these for 98SE: | > | > | > | > http://www.redchairsoftware.com/anapod/ - costs | > | > http://www.98-drivers.com/ipod.html - MUST donate 5 dollars | > | > | > | > Or how about WinAMP? | > | > | > | > ALL require that you have an iPod [proprietary format]... | | What is *an iPod [proprietary format]* Hmm, think of it like a picture [bmp, gif, jpg, wmf, etc.], or sound [wav, mp3, asf, ogg vorbis, aaif, etc.]. Each differing format requires a program which supports that format. Podcasts require something that can decrypt/interpret the format. Though there are other *podcasts* [non-Apple formats] the ones you're trying to access: 1. Are on an Apple forum/site. 2. Were created with Apple's software in its format. 2. And the site checks for iTunes on your computer. How? Here you need to think of something like Adobe Reader. When you access a site with a PDF, the Reader is called via its BHO hook to access, decode, and view the PDF. If you haven't installed Adobe Reader [or a program that provides that function AND places a hook] then the site link errors. Your only option is to download the PDF, and use some other local PDF viewing program to open it. Same holds true for iTunes/iPodCasts. IF [emphasis] it were possible to access the podcast and download it to your computer, then you could use some program [which supports that format] to view/listen to the teacher's lecture. OR you have to search for some *player* which supports the iPod/iTunes format, works in 98 AND could pass the site check [not likely]. Apparently though, as the intended podcasts are on Apple [or some subsidiary], likely someone else would have to access the files and download them for you since you will fail the installed iTunes\iPod software installation check for the site. I checked iTunesU, and could find no public *backdoor* area [even the xml page requires iTunes]. Or as you have suggested, perhaps the school's library or computer area can be used to do so.. If you could then tranfer that downloaded lecture/class notes to some mobile storage device, you could possibly then use a non-official PodCast viewer/player on your 98 system after loading on your hard drive.. however, you may have another stumbling block: requires QuickTime [7.1.6], though perhaps that has also been addressed within an unofficial application ... Here's another one. http://www.yamipod.com http://www.yamipod.com/main/modules/docs/ Anyway, seems we've come to a close on the issue. SOL | > | > | > | > -- | > | > MEB | > | > ________ | > | > | > | > -- | > MEB | > ________ | > | Angel | > -- MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com ________
Guest MEB Posted September 12, 2007 Posted September 12, 2007 Re: Security Concerns with Windows Re: Security Concerns with Windows Ah Dan, having been both side of the coin hacker/security, I'll make this brief. There is no truly unbreakable security. The only way the government has found is to completely destroy all materials, and run a separate network from any public access. Even then security can and has been breached. A network ALWAYS has tracks to follow. However, posting as you do, it is no wonder that you were attacked. Likely some beginning hacker, cutting their teeth... I mean nothing personal, just that you need to get a little more savvy out here, and calm down. There was an old saying: "Loose lips sink ships." As for Cisco issues, yes, I had posted that in this group. -- MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com ________
Guest Dan Posted September 12, 2007 Posted September 12, 2007 Re: Security Concerns with Windows Re: Security Concerns with Windows Thanks MEB. "MEB" wrote: > Ah Dan, having been both side of the coin hacker/security, I'll make this > brief. > > There is no truly unbreakable security. The only way the government has > found is to completely destroy all materials, and run a separate network > from any public access. Even then security can and has been breached. > > A network ALWAYS has tracks to follow. > > However, posting as you do, it is no wonder that you were attacked. Likely > some beginning hacker, cutting their teeth... > I mean nothing personal, just that you need to get a little more savvy out > here, and calm down. There was an old saying: "Loose lips sink ships." > > As for Cisco issues, yes, I had posted that in this group. > > -- > MEB > http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com > ________ > > > >
Guest Angel Posted September 12, 2007 Posted September 12, 2007 Re: iTunes 7.3.2 Hi MEB, No problem with the combining the thread. I understand the problem with trying to even download the Podcasts using my computer. Even if I can access the lecture notes at the library they would be in voice, as I understand it. Then I would have trouble getting them to my computer. The last time I used the computer at the library there was no sound. If they still have no sound, then I would not be able to hear them. I will have to check on that before I even try. If they had speakers or earphone capability, I could hear them. I would have to take notes as I do in class. I also understand that I would have to have iTunes capability on the computer in order to transfer the lectures. The only portable devices I have is s Sandisk flash drive and a floppy disk I also found that the Apple Co. has again upgraded the version to 7.4.1 as of last night. I do not know what the version is today. It looks like they upgrade it almost every week!! At the Apple Site, they had someone giving a presentation and you had to have Quick Time 7 to see it. I could hear it but could not see it. It was about the new iPod. Thank you so very much for the explanation of things and help. I will let you all know what happens. Angel "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:edBJgaQ9HHA.464@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > > Excuse this, but this thread was splitting apart, so I cut and pasted from > your other answer to this one. > > "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message > news:uLHN1wL9HHA.5404@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > | {in line below} > | > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message > | news:OYBLh1K9HHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > | > "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message > | > news:O%23cWWLB9HHA.600@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > | > | > | > | "Vince" <nobody@home.invalid> wrote in message > | > | news:6plae3lv2krb0i3io9tetleddt5ie45bsd@4ax.com... > | > | > On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 14:42:28 -0400, "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote: > | > | > > | > | > >Some podcasts do work without iTunes. Example: 1.1. Our teacher > uses > | > the > | > | > >iTunes 7.3.2. I have tried his links without the iTunes and I could > | not > | > | get > | > | > >it. Maybe his link was wrong, I will keep trying. I found the > iTunes > | > | 7.3.2 > | > | > >by Googling it. The site said that Windows 2000 was required. The > | > newer > | > | > >version 7.4 requires XP or later. > | > | > > | > | > The real question is - where is he distributing his content? If > it's > | > | > only available from the Apple iTunes web site, it's iTunes only. If > | > | > it's available from another web site, via RSS or some other vehicle, > | > | > you should be able to download the content and access it with > programs > | > | > that work on Windows 98. > | > | All I know about it is that you need iTunes to get the podcast notes. > | The instructions say, that "after you download the iTunes Version 7.3.2, > | then restart the computer. Use the link again. Once you arrive at the > | Univesity's region of the iTunes network, navigate to the Arts and > Sciences > | icon, click on that. then click on the course of his that you want, then > | click on the podcast you want, and then it should start for you." > | When I used his link it did not work. When I typed his link in the > | address bar it came up at the Apple website to download the Version 7.4. > | The link I sent you was the link from the Help Desk of the library not > | his.This was the link that they said to use to download the Version 7.3.2. > | Angel > > Again, understood. So as you were advised, if its on the Apple iTunes site > as a pod cast, either you find some software to access it or you will have > to access it from some other computer. > > | > | > > | > > | > "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message > | > news:O0DotTJ9HHA.4880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > | > | MEB, > | > | I am not trying to download anything to the iTunes. I am trying > to > | > get > | > | the notes that our professor downloads to iTunes. His podcasts of the > | > | classes. You need the 7.3.2 version to get his notes. So that is as > | simple > | > | as I can describe the problem. The Link that the dept. gave me won't > | work. > | > | So I guess that the best I can do is try to get it up at the > University. > | > If > | > | that does not work, then I am OOL! Oh, well, that's life!! > | > | Angel > | > > | > Okay, that was already understood. > | > What I was indirectly trying to show was; that if one intends to > attempt > | > iPod/iTunes usage in 9X/ME, one will likely need to use a *non-official* > | > program or pluggin during the attempt. Though the iPod can be used for > | > pretty much anything, i.e. from a mobile *hard drive* to a music/video > | > player [depending upon the hardware version/supported aspects], to > provide > | > this in an *unsupported* OS like 9X apparently requires something other > | than > | > one of Apple's official versions. > | > > | > Several parties on the NET are working on *pluggins* and/or programs to > | > allow such usage, but these will NEVER be official *Apple authorized* > for > | > 9X/ME as Apple never really intended such usage. Apple is also > constantly > | > creating newer versions which apparently are NOT compatible with > previous > | > versions. One could reasonably claim this is done to ensure Apple > remains > | in > | > control of its products and software necessary to use them. One could > also > | > raise claim that this may be an attempt to force iPod users to upgrade > the > | > device. I have seen materials which claim Apple feels that four years > [or > | > less] is the *life* of one of its devices. > | > That, of course, remains the major points of contention to the users of > | > Apple's products, be the user running 9X/ME or one of the officially > | > supported applications from Apple.. > | > > | > | > | > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message > | > | news:%23KFKqiF9HHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > | > | > > | > | > > | > http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/win/29621&vid=44272&mode=inf > | > | > | Maybe you can try to find out if it will work. It took me to a > | page > | > | and > | > | > | would not even try to download. > | > | > | Thanks, > | > | > | Angel > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > > | > | > Tried that link, no luck, though it will show info back to version > | 4.1 > | > | > [2003]. > | > | > > | > | > Are you downloading TO an iPod, or are you trying from your hard > | drive, > | > | No, I do not have an iPod. My teacher does. > > Right, and there lay the problem. If you had an iPod then this discussion > would be leading in a different direction. > > | > | > | or > | > | > directly from the NET? > | > | From the NET, I guess. > > Right, and off of Apple's own site apparently. > > | > | > | > > | > | > How about these for 98SE: > | > | > > | > | > http://www.redchairsoftware.com/anapod/ - costs > | > | > http://www.98-drivers.com/ipod.html - MUST donate 5 dollars > | > | > > | > | > Or how about WinAMP? > | > | > > | > | > ALL require that you have an iPod [proprietary format]... > | > | What is *an iPod [proprietary format]* > > Hmm, think of it like a picture [bmp, gif, jpg, wmf, etc.], or sound [wav, > mp3, asf, ogg vorbis, aaif, etc.]. Each differing format requires a program > which supports that format. > > Podcasts require something that can decrypt/interpret the format. Though > there are other *podcasts* [non-Apple formats] the ones you're trying to > access: > > 1. Are on an Apple forum/site. > > 2. Were created with Apple's software in its format. > > 2. And the site checks for iTunes on your computer. > > How? > Here you need to think of something like Adobe Reader. When you access a > site with a PDF, the Reader is called via its BHO hook to access, decode, > and view the PDF. If you haven't installed Adobe Reader [or a program that > provides that function AND places a hook] then the site link errors. Your > only option is to download the PDF, and use some other local PDF viewing > program to open it. > > Same holds true for iTunes/iPodCasts. IF [emphasis] it were possible to > access the podcast and download it to your computer, then you could use some > program [which supports that format] to view/listen to the teacher's > lecture. OR you have to search for some *player* which supports the > iPod/iTunes format, works in 98 AND could pass the site check [not likely]. > > Apparently though, as the intended podcasts are on Apple [or some > subsidiary], likely someone else would have to access the files and download > them for you since you will fail the installed iTunes\iPod software > installation check for the site. I checked iTunesU, and could find no public > *backdoor* area [even the xml page requires iTunes]. Or as you have > suggested, perhaps the school's library or computer area can be used to do > so.. > > If you could then tranfer that downloaded lecture/class notes to some > mobile storage device, you could possibly then use a non-official PodCast > viewer/player on your 98 system after loading on your hard drive.. however, > you may have another stumbling block: requires QuickTime [7.1.6], though > perhaps that has also been addressed within an unofficial application ... > > Here's another one. > http://www.yamipod.com > http://www.yamipod.com/main/modules/docs/ > > Anyway, seems we've come to a close on the issue. SOL > > | > | > > | > | > -- > | > | > MEB > | > | > ________ > | > | > > | > > | > -- > | > MEB > | > ________ > | > > | Angel > | > > > -- > MEB > http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com > ________ > > >
Guest MEB Posted September 13, 2007 Posted September 13, 2007 Re: iTunes 7.3.2 "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message news:%23VwWsYX9HHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... | Hi MEB, | No problem with the combining the thread. | I understand the problem with trying to even download the Podcasts | using my computer. Even if I can access the lecture notes at the library | they would be in voice, as I understand it. Then I would have trouble | getting them to my computer. The last time I used the computer at the | library there was no sound. If they still have no sound, then I would not be | able to hear them. I will have to check on that before I even try. If they | had speakers or earphone capability, I could hear them. I would have to take | notes as I do in class. | I also understand that I would have to have iTunes capability on the | computer in order to transfer the lectures. The only portable devices I have | is s Sandisk flash drive and a floppy disk | I also found that the Apple Co. has again upgraded the version to | 7.4.1 as of last night. I do not know what the version is today. It looks | like they upgrade it almost every week!! At the Apple Site, they had someone | giving a presentation and you had to have Quick Time 7 to see it. I could | hear it but could not see it. It was about the new iPod. | Thank you so very much for the explanation of things and help. I will | let you all know what happens. | Angel Okay, I'll keep looking around occasionally to see if any one makes any progress on an SE answer. [Nothing below this but the prior convos] | | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message | news:edBJgaQ9HHA.464@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... | > | > | > Excuse this, but this thread was splitting apart, so I cut and pasted | from | > your other answer to this one. | > | > "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message | > news:uLHN1wL9HHA.5404@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... | > | {in line below} | > | | > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message | > | news:OYBLh1K9HHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... | > | > "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message | > | > news:O%23cWWLB9HHA.600@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... | > | > | | > | > | "Vince" <nobody@home.invalid> wrote in message | > | > | news:6plae3lv2krb0i3io9tetleddt5ie45bsd@4ax.com... | > | > | > On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 14:42:28 -0400, "Angel" <angel@noway.com> | wrote: | > | > | > | > | > | > >Some podcasts do work without iTunes. Example: 1.1. Our teacher | > uses | > | > the | > | > | > >iTunes 7.3.2. I have tried his links without the iTunes and I | could | > | not | > | > | get | > | > | > >it. Maybe his link was wrong, I will keep trying. I found the | > iTunes | > | > | 7.3.2 | > | > | > >by Googling it. The site said that Windows 2000 was required. | The | > | > newer | > | > | > >version 7.4 requires XP or later. | > | > | > | > | > | > The real question is - where is he distributing his content? If | > it's | > | > | > only available from the Apple iTunes web site, it's iTunes only. | If | > | > | > it's available from another web site, via RSS or some other | vehicle, | > | > | > you should be able to download the content and access it with | > programs | > | > | > that work on Windows 98. | > | | > | All I know about it is that you need iTunes to get the podcast | notes. | > | The instructions say, that "after you download the iTunes Version 7.3.2, | > | then restart the computer. Use the link again. Once you arrive at the | > | Univesity's region of the iTunes network, navigate to the Arts and | > Sciences | > | icon, click on that. then click on the course of his that you want, then | > | click on the podcast you want, and then it should start for you." | > | When I used his link it did not work. When I typed his link in the | > | address bar it came up at the Apple website to download the Version 7.4. | > | The link I sent you was the link from the Help Desk of the library not | > | his.This was the link that they said to use to download the Version | 7.3.2. | > | Angel | > | > Again, understood. So as you were advised, if its on the Apple iTunes | site | > as a pod cast, either you find some software to access it or you will have | > to access it from some other computer. | > | > | | > | > | > | > | > | > "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message | > | > news:O0DotTJ9HHA.4880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... | > | > | MEB, | > | > | I am not trying to download anything to the iTunes. I am trying | > to | > | > get | > | > | the notes that our professor downloads to iTunes. His podcasts of | the | > | > | classes. You need the 7.3.2 version to get his notes. So that is as | > | simple | > | > | as I can describe the problem. The Link that the dept. gave me won't | > | work. | > | > | So I guess that the best I can do is try to get it up at the | > University. | > | > If | > | > | that does not work, then I am OOL! Oh, well, that's life!! | > | > | Angel | > | > | > | > Okay, that was already understood. | > | > What I was indirectly trying to show was; that if one intends to | > attempt | > | > iPod/iTunes usage in 9X/ME, one will likely need to use a | *non-official* | > | > program or pluggin during the attempt. Though the iPod can be used for | > | > pretty much anything, i.e. from a mobile *hard drive* to a music/video | > | > player [depending upon the hardware version/supported aspects], to | > provide | > | > this in an *unsupported* OS like 9X apparently requires something | other | > | than | > | > one of Apple's official versions. | > | > | > | > Several parties on the NET are working on *pluggins* and/or programs | to | > | > allow such usage, but these will NEVER be official *Apple authorized* | > for | > | > 9X/ME as Apple never really intended such usage. Apple is also | > constantly | > | > creating newer versions which apparently are NOT compatible with | > previous | > | > versions. One could reasonably claim this is done to ensure Apple | > remains | > | in | > | > control of its products and software necessary to use them. One could | > also | > | > raise claim that this may be an attempt to force iPod users to upgrade | > the | > | > device. I have seen materials which claim Apple feels that four years | > [or | > | > less] is the *life* of one of its devices. | > | > That, of course, remains the major points of contention to the users | of | > | > Apple's products, be the user running 9X/ME or one of the officially | > | > supported applications from Apple.. | > | > | > | > | | > | > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message | > | > | news:%23KFKqiF9HHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/win/29621&vid=44272&mode=inf | > | > | > | Maybe you can try to find out if it will work. It took me to | a | > | page | > | > | and | > | > | > | would not even try to download. | > | > | > | Thanks, | > | > | > | Angel | > | > | > | | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | > | > Tried that link, no luck, though it will show info back to | version | > | 4.1 | > | > | > [2003]. | > | > | > | > | > | > Are you downloading TO an iPod, or are you trying from your hard | > | drive, | > | | > | No, I do not have an iPod. My teacher does. | > | > Right, and there lay the problem. If you had an iPod then this discussion | > would be leading in a different direction. | > | > | | > | > | or | > | > | > directly from the NET? | > | | > | From the NET, I guess. | > | > Right, and off of Apple's own site apparently. | > | > | | > | > | > | > | > | > How about these for 98SE: | > | > | > | > | > | > http://www.redchairsoftware.com/anapod/ - costs | > | > | > http://www.98-drivers.com/ipod.html - MUST donate 5 dollars | > | > | > | > | > | > Or how about WinAMP? | > | > | > | > | > | > ALL require that you have an iPod [proprietary format]... | > | | > | What is *an iPod [proprietary format]* | > | > Hmm, think of it like a picture [bmp, gif, jpg, wmf, etc.], or sound | [wav, | > mp3, asf, ogg vorbis, aaif, etc.]. Each differing format requires a | program | > which supports that format. | > | > Podcasts require something that can decrypt/interpret the format. Though | > there are other *podcasts* [non-Apple formats] the ones you're trying to | > access: | > | > 1. Are on an Apple forum/site. | > | > 2. Were created with Apple's software in its format. | > | > 2. And the site checks for iTunes on your computer. | > | > How? | > Here you need to think of something like Adobe Reader. When you access a | > site with a PDF, the Reader is called via its BHO hook to access, decode, | > and view the PDF. If you haven't installed Adobe Reader [or a program that | > provides that function AND places a hook] then the site link errors. Your | > only option is to download the PDF, and use some other local PDF viewing | > program to open it. | > | > Same holds true for iTunes/iPodCasts. IF [emphasis] it were possible to | > access the podcast and download it to your computer, then you could use | some | > program [which supports that format] to view/listen to the teacher's | > lecture. OR you have to search for some *player* which supports the | > iPod/iTunes format, works in 98 AND could pass the site check [not | likely]. | > | > Apparently though, as the intended podcasts are on Apple [or some | > subsidiary], likely someone else would have to access the files and | download | > them for you since you will fail the installed iTunes\iPod software | > installation check for the site. I checked iTunesU, and could find no | public | > *backdoor* area [even the xml page requires iTunes]. Or as you have | > suggested, perhaps the school's library or computer area can be used to do | > so.. | > | > If you could then tranfer that downloaded lecture/class notes to some | > mobile storage device, you could possibly then use a non-official PodCast | > viewer/player on your 98 system after loading on your hard drive.. | however, | > you may have another stumbling block: requires QuickTime [7.1.6], though | > perhaps that has also been addressed within an unofficial application .... | > | > Here's another one. | > http://www.yamipod.com | > http://www.yamipod.com/main/modules/docs/ | > | > Anyway, seems we've come to a close on the issue. SOL | > | > | > | > -- | > | > | > MEB | > | > | > ________ | > | > -- | > | > MEB | > | > ________ | > | > | > | Angel | > -- | > MEB | > ________ | > -- MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com ________
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