Standard 2003 4GB RAM barrier

"Edwin vMierlo [MVP]" <EdwinvMierlo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

message news:%23UtUxFS8HHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> unfortunately ... no

>

> 1) you need enterprise for start

> 2) enabale the /PAE boot switch (probably in combination with the /3GB

> switch)

> 3) AND (!!) your application(s) need to be AWE compatible

>

> ... then you can use all of your 16GB Ram

>

> HTH,

> Edwin.

>

> "Bill Nguyen" <billn_nospam_please@jaco.com> wrote in message

> news:u1xs3SO8HHA.464@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> I have a 16GB AM Dell Poweredge server. Can I install standard 2003

> instead

>> of enterprise version and still able to utilize all 16GB RAM?

>>

>> Thanks a million

>>

>> Bill

>>

>

September 7, 2007

Re: Standard 2003 4GB RAM barrier

Mathieu;

I like this option since it's a true solution.

Is ther any draw back?

Also, where can I het the 64-bit? If I download the trial version, can I use

my open license ID to make it permanent?

Thanks

Bill

"Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message

news:O9aSDCW8HHA.2476@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> or go 64 bits ;)

>

> --

> Cordialement,

> Mathieu CHATEAU

>

> "Edwin vMierlo [MVP]" <EdwinvMierlo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

> message news:%23UtUxFS8HHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> unfortunately ... no

>>

>> 1) you need enterprise for start

>> 2) enabale the /PAE boot switch (probably in combination with the /3GB

>> switch)

>> 3) AND (!!) your application(s) need to be AWE compatible

>>

>> ... then you can use all of your 16GB Ram

>>

>> HTH,

>> Edwin.

>>

>> "Bill Nguyen" <billn_nospam_please@jaco.com> wrote in message

>> news:u1xs3SO8HHA.464@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>> I have a 16GB AM Dell Poweredge server. Can I install standard 2003

>> instead

>>> of enterprise version and still able to utilize all 16GB RAM?

>>>

>>> Thanks a million

>>>

>>> Bill

>>>

>>

>

September 7, 2007

Re: Standard 2003 4GB RAM barrier

Hello,

What are you going to run onto ?

32 bits application can run on 64 bits through the WOW64, normally without

notice.

Which application do you expect to use the 16G of ram ? SQL ?

Check if your application exist in 64 bits version, which would be the best.

I think 32 bits & 64 bits version are the same price, but you would have to

check.

Are your CPU 64bits enabled (EMT64 for example) ?

--

Cordialement,

Mathieu CHATEAU

"Bill Nguyen" <billn_nospam_please@jaco.com> wrote in message

news:Oso0YoW8HHA.600@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> Mathieu;

>

> I like this option since it's a true solution.

> Is ther any draw back?

>

> Also, where can I het the 64-bit? If I download the trial version, can I

> use my open license ID to make it permanent?

>

> Thanks

>

> Bill

>

> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message

> news:O9aSDCW8HHA.2476@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> or go 64 bits ;)

>>

>> --

>> Cordialement,

>> Mathieu CHATEAU

>>

>> "Edwin vMierlo [MVP]" <EdwinvMierlo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

>> message news:%23UtUxFS8HHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>> unfortunately ... no

>>>

>>> 1) you need enterprise for start

>>> 2) enabale the /PAE boot switch (probably in combination with the /3GB

>>> switch)

>>> 3) AND (!!) your application(s) need to be AWE compatible

>>>

>>> ... then you can use all of your 16GB Ram

>>>

>>> HTH,

>>> Edwin.

>>>

>>> "Bill Nguyen" <billn_nospam_please@jaco.com> wrote in message

>>> news:u1xs3SO8HHA.464@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>> I have a 16GB AM Dell Poweredge server. Can I install standard 2003

>>> instead

>>>> of enterprise version and still able to utilize all 16GB RAM?

>>>>

>>>> Thanks a million

>>>>

>>>> Bill

>>>>

>>>

>>

>

September 7, 2007

Re: Standard 2003 4GB RAM barrier

I have 16GB in the server and would like to take advantage of it.

Will run IIS 6.0/7.0, sql2005, either 32 or 64-bit if necessary.

Some on the web-based apps are developed using .NET, and I hope that would

run on both platform.

I have only CD for 32-bit. I need to know where I can download the 64-bit

standard version

Thanks

Bill

"Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message

news:uy1E2vW8HHA.5424@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> Hello,

>

> What are you going to run onto ?

> 32 bits application can run on 64 bits through the WOW64, normally without

> notice.

> Which application do you expect to use the 16G of ram ? SQL ?

>

> Check if your application exist in 64 bits version, which would be the

> best.

>

> I think 32 bits & 64 bits version are the same price, but you would have

> to check.

>

> Are your CPU 64bits enabled (EMT64 for example) ?

>

> --

> Cordialement,

> Mathieu CHATEAU

>

> "Bill Nguyen" <billn_nospam_please@jaco.com> wrote in message

> news:Oso0YoW8HHA.600@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> Mathieu;

>>

>> I like this option since it's a true solution.

>> Is ther any draw back?

>>

>> Also, where can I het the 64-bit? If I download the trial version, can I

>> use my open license ID to make it permanent?

>>

>> Thanks

>>

>> Bill

>>

>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message

>> news:O9aSDCW8HHA.2476@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>> or go 64 bits ;)

>>>

>>> --

>>> Cordialement,

>>> Mathieu CHATEAU

>>>

>>> "Edwin vMierlo [MVP]" <EdwinvMierlo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

>>> message news:%23UtUxFS8HHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>> unfortunately ... no

>>>>

>>>> 1) you need enterprise for start

>>>> 2) enabale the /PAE boot switch (probably in combination with the /3GB

>>>> switch)

>>>> 3) AND (!!) your application(s) need to be AWE compatible

>>>>

>>>> ... then you can use all of your 16GB Ram

>>>>

>>>> HTH,

>>>> Edwin.

>>>>

>>>> "Bill Nguyen" <billn_nospam_please@jaco.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:u1xs3SO8HHA.464@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>> I have a 16GB AM Dell Poweredge server. Can I install standard 2003

>>>> instead

>>>>> of enterprise version and still able to utilize all 16GB RAM?

>>>>>

>>>>> Thanks a million

>>>>>

>>>>> Bill

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>

>

September 7, 2007

Re: Standard 2003 4GB RAM barrier

SQL 2005 exist in 64 bits, so it will clearly boost on it.

IIS is part of the system, so it would be 64 bits (to be confirmed).

Are you sure of being able to use so much memory ?

I would rather put two smaller server

--

Cordialement,

Mathieu CHATEAU

"Bill Nguyen" <billn_nospam_please@jaco.com> wrote in message

news:e9eEZVZ8HHA.1444@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>I have 16GB in the server and would like to take advantage of it.

> Will run IIS 6.0/7.0, sql2005, either 32 or 64-bit if necessary.

>

> Some on the web-based apps are developed using .NET, and I hope that would

> run on both platform.

> I have only CD for 32-bit. I need to know where I can download the 64-bit

> standard version

>

> Thanks

>

> Bill

>

> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message

> news:uy1E2vW8HHA.5424@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> Hello,

>>

>> What are you going to run onto ?

>> 32 bits application can run on 64 bits through the WOW64, normally

>> without notice.

>> Which application do you expect to use the 16G of ram ? SQL ?

>>

>> Check if your application exist in 64 bits version, which would be the

>> best.

>>

>> I think 32 bits & 64 bits version are the same price, but you would have

>> to check.

>>

>> Are your CPU 64bits enabled (EMT64 for example) ?

>>

>> --

>> Cordialement,

>> Mathieu CHATEAU

>>

>> "Bill Nguyen" <billn_nospam_please@jaco.com> wrote in message

>> news:Oso0YoW8HHA.600@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>> Mathieu;

>>>

>>> I like this option since it's a true solution.

>>> Is ther any draw back?

>>>

>>> Also, where can I het the 64-bit? If I download the trial version, can I

>>> use my open license ID to make it permanent?

>>>

>>> Thanks

>>>

>>> Bill

>>>

>>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message

>>> news:O9aSDCW8HHA.2476@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>> or go 64 bits ;)

>>>>

>>>> --

>>>> Cordialement,

>>>> Mathieu CHATEAU

>>>>

>>>> "Edwin vMierlo [MVP]" <EdwinvMierlo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

>>>> message news:%23UtUxFS8HHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>> unfortunately ... no

>>>>>

>>>>> 1) you need enterprise for start

>>>>> 2) enabale the /PAE boot switch (probably in combination with the /3GB

>>>>> switch)

>>>>> 3) AND (!!) your application(s) need to be AWE compatible

>>>>>

>>>>> ... then you can use all of your 16GB Ram

>>>>>

>>>>> HTH,

>>>>> Edwin.

>>>>>

>>>>> "Bill Nguyen" <billn_nospam_please@jaco.com> wrote in message

>>>>> news:u1xs3SO8HHA.464@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>>> I have a 16GB AM Dell Poweredge server. Can I install standard 2003

>>>>> instead

>>>>>> of enterprise version and still able to utilize all 16GB RAM?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Thanks a million

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Bill

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>

>

September 7, 2007

Re: Standard 2003 4GB RAM barrier

In article <e9eEZVZ8HHA.1444@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>,

billn_nospam_please@jaco.com says...

> I have 16GB in the server and would like to take advantage of it.

> Will run IIS 6.0/7.0, sql2005, either 32 or 64-bit if necessary.

>

> Some on the web-based apps are developed using .NET, and I hope that would

> run on both platform.

> I have only CD for 32-bit. I need to know where I can download the 64-bit

> standard version

Unless your .Net app (assuming the part that is using IIS) is internal

only, meaning not exposed to the public, you DO NOT WANT SQL ON THE SAME

SERVER.

The proper web config has your Web server in the DMZ network with only

TCP 1433 passed through the DMZ to the LAN IP of the SQL Server, and not

AD/Domain authentication permitted. This protects the data on the SQL

Server, protects the LAN, protects your users, etc...

If the server is internal use ONLY, then you would still benefit from

two servers as SQL is a real resource pig (drives and memory).

--

Leythos

- Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.

- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a

drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"

spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)

September 7, 2007

Re: Standard 2003 4GB RAM barrier

Mathieu;

I can take out 8GB to use elsewhere. Still, the point is to cross the 4GB

barrier.

Still need answer for this question, please:

Also, where can I get the 64-bit? If I download the trial version, can I

use my open license ID to make it permanent?

Thanks

Bill

"Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message

news:%23iRdjlZ8HHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> SQL 2005 exist in 64 bits, so it will clearly boost on it.

> IIS is part of the system, so it would be 64 bits (to be confirmed).

>

> Are you sure of being able to use so much memory ?

> I would rather put two smaller server

>

> --

> Cordialement,

> Mathieu CHATEAU

>

> "Bill Nguyen" <billn_nospam_please@jaco.com> wrote in message

> news:e9eEZVZ8HHA.1444@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>I have 16GB in the server and would like to take advantage of it.

>> Will run IIS 6.0/7.0, sql2005, either 32 or 64-bit if necessary.

>>

>> Some on the web-based apps are developed using .NET, and I hope that

>> would run on both platform.

>> I have only CD for 32-bit. I need to know where I can download the 64-bit

>> standard version

>>

>> Thanks

>>

>> Bill

>>

>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message

>> news:uy1E2vW8HHA.5424@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>> Hello,

>>>

>>> What are you going to run onto ?

>>> 32 bits application can run on 64 bits through the WOW64, normally

>>> without notice.

>>> Which application do you expect to use the 16G of ram ? SQL ?

>>>

>>> Check if your application exist in 64 bits version, which would be the

>>> best.

>>>

>>> I think 32 bits & 64 bits version are the same price, but you would have

>>> to check.

>>>

>>> Are your CPU 64bits enabled (EMT64 for example) ?

>>>

>>> --

>>> Cordialement,

>>> Mathieu CHATEAU

http://www.microsoft.com/servers/64bit/faqs.mspx

>>>

>>> "Bill Nguyen" <billn_nospam_please@jaco.com> wrote in message

>>> news:Oso0YoW8HHA.600@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>> Mathieu;

>>>>

>>>> I like this option since it's a true solution.

>>>> Is ther any draw back?

>>>>

>>>> Also, where can I het the 64-bit? If I download the trial version, can

>>>> I use my open license ID to make it permanent?

>>>>

>>>> Thanks

>>>>

>>>> Bill

>>>>

>>>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message

>>>> news:O9aSDCW8HHA.2476@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>> or go 64 bits ;)

>>>>>

>>>>> --

>>>>> Cordialement,

>>>>> Mathieu CHATEAU

>>>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com

>>>>>

>>>>> "Edwin vMierlo [MVP]" <EdwinvMierlo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote

>>>>> in message news:%23UtUxFS8HHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>>> unfortunately ... no

>>>>>>

>>>>>> 1) you need enterprise for start

>>>>>> 2) enabale the /PAE boot switch (probably in combination with the

>>>>>> /3GB

>>>>>> switch)

>>>>>> 3) AND (!!) your application(s) need to be AWE compatible

>>>>>>

>>>>>> ... then you can use all of your 16GB Ram

>>>>>>

>>>>>> HTH,

>>>>>> Edwin.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> "Bill Nguyen" <billn_nospam_please@jaco.com> wrote in message

>>>>>> news:u1xs3SO8HHA.464@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>> I have a 16GB AM Dell Poweredge server. Can I install standard 2003

>>>>>> instead

>>>>>>> of enterprise version and still able to utilize all 16GB RAM?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Thanks a million

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Bill

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>

>

September 7, 2007

Re: Standard 2003 4GB RAM barrier

You're absolutely right.

The app is internal but we have a dedicated SQL server. IIS is propbably the

only service to be installed.

Thanks

Bill

"Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message

news:MPG.214b9ddd903dcbdb9898ef@adfree.Usenet.com...

> In article <e9eEZVZ8HHA.1444@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>,

> billn_nospam_please@jaco.com says...

>> I have 16GB in the server and would like to take advantage of it.

>> Will run IIS 6.0/7.0, sql2005, either 32 or 64-bit if necessary.

>>

>> Some on the web-based apps are developed using .NET, and I hope that

>> would

>> run on both platform.

>> I have only CD for 32-bit. I need to know where I can download the 64-bit

>> standard version

>

> Unless your .Net app (assuming the part that is using IIS) is internal

> only, meaning not exposed to the public, you DO NOT WANT SQL ON THE SAME

> SERVER.

>

> The proper web config has your Web server in the DMZ network with only

> TCP 1433 passed through the DMZ to the LAN IP of the SQL Server, and not

> AD/Domain authentication permitted. This protects the data on the SQL

> Server, protects the LAN, protects your users, etc...

>

> If the server is internal use ONLY, then you would still benefit from

> two servers as SQL is a real resource pig (drives and memory).

>

> --

>

> Leythos

> - Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.

> - Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a

> drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"

> spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)

September 8, 2007

Re: Standard 2003 4GB RAM barrier

Yes, you license is valid for 64 bits:

Volume licensing customers are free to exchange their 32-bit version of

Windows for the x64 version at any time, using their media kits.

Other customers should contact their OEM or regular fulfillment channels.

They may be able to assist you with media.

--

Cordialement,

Mathieu CHATEAU

"Bill Nguyen" <billn_nospam_please@jaco.com> wrote in message

news:%23xBtEea8HHA.1444@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> Mathieu;

>

> I can take out 8GB to use elsewhere. Still, the point is to cross the 4GB

> barrier.

> Still need answer for this question, please:

>

> Also, where can I get the 64-bit? If I download the trial version, can I

> use my open license ID to make it permanent?

>

> Thanks

>

> Bill

>

> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message

> news:%23iRdjlZ8HHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> SQL 2005 exist in 64 bits, so it will clearly boost on it.

>> IIS is part of the system, so it would be 64 bits (to be confirmed).

>>

>> Are you sure of being able to use so much memory ?

>> I would rather put two smaller server

>>

>> --

>> Cordialement,

>> Mathieu CHATEAU

>>

>> "Bill Nguyen" <billn_nospam_please@jaco.com> wrote in message

>> news:e9eEZVZ8HHA.1444@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>I have 16GB in the server and would like to take advantage of it.

>>> Will run IIS 6.0/7.0, sql2005, either 32 or 64-bit if necessary.

>>>

>>> Some on the web-based apps are developed using .NET, and I hope that

>>> would run on both platform.

>>> I have only CD for 32-bit. I need to know where I can download the

>>> 64-bit standard version

>>>

>>> Thanks

>>>

>>> Bill

>>>

>>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message

>>> news:uy1E2vW8HHA.5424@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>> Hello,

>>>>

>>>> What are you going to run onto ?

>>>> 32 bits application can run on 64 bits through the WOW64, normally

>>>> without notice.

>>>> Which application do you expect to use the 16G of ram ? SQL ?

>>>>

>>>> Check if your application exist in 64 bits version, which would be the

>>>> best.

>>>>

>>>> I think 32 bits & 64 bits version are the same price, but you would

>>>> have to check.

>>>>

>>>> Are your CPU 64bits enabled (EMT64 for example) ?

>>>>

>>>> --

>>>> Cordialement,

>>>> Mathieu CHATEAU

> http://www.microsoft.com/servers/64bit/faqs.mspx

>>>>

>>>> "Bill Nguyen" <billn_nospam_please@jaco.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:Oso0YoW8HHA.600@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>> Mathieu;

>>>>>

>>>>> I like this option since it's a true solution.

>>>>> Is ther any draw back?

>>>>>

>>>>> Also, where can I het the 64-bit? If I download the trial version, can

>>>>> I use my open license ID to make it permanent?

>>>>>

>>>>> Thanks

>>>>>

>>>>> Bill

>>>>>

>>>>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message

>>>>> news:O9aSDCW8HHA.2476@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>>> or go 64 bits ;)

>>>>>>

>>>>>> --

>>>>>> Cordialement,

>>>>>> Mathieu CHATEAU

>>>>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com

>>>>>>

>>>>>> "Edwin vMierlo [MVP]" <EdwinvMierlo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote

>>>>>> in message news:%23UtUxFS8HHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>> unfortunately ... no

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> 1) you need enterprise for start

>>>>>>> 2) enabale the /PAE boot switch (probably in combination with the

>>>>>>> /3GB

>>>>>>> switch)

>>>>>>> 3) AND (!!) your application(s) need to be AWE compatible

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> ... then you can use all of your 16GB Ram

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> HTH,

>>>>>>> Edwin.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> "Bill Nguyen" <billn_nospam_please@jaco.com> wrote in message

>>>>>>> news:u1xs3SO8HHA.464@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>> I have a 16GB AM Dell Poweredge server. Can I install standard 2003

>>>>>>> instead

>>>>>>>> of enterprise version and still able to utilize all 16GB RAM?

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Thanks a million

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Bill

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>

>

September 10, 2007

Re: Standard 2003 4GB RAM barrier

Matthieu;

I'm waiting for the media to arrive.

I need to install the server in a hurry. Can I install the trial version

then upgrade to licensed version later?

Thanks

Bill

"Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message

news:exICAhe8HHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> Yes, you license is valid for 64 bits:

>

> Volume licensing customers are free to exchange their 32-bit version of

> Windows for the x64 version at any time, using their media kits.

> Other customers should contact their OEM or regular fulfillment channels.

> They may be able to assist you with media.

>

> --

> Cordialement,

> Mathieu CHATEAU

>

> "Bill Nguyen" <billn_nospam_please@jaco.com> wrote in message

> news:%23xBtEea8HHA.1444@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> Mathieu;

>>

>> I can take out 8GB to use elsewhere. Still, the point is to cross the 4GB

>> barrier.

>> Still need answer for this question, please:

>>

>> Also, where can I get the 64-bit? If I download the trial version, can I

>> use my open license ID to make it permanent?

>>

>> Thanks

>>

>> Bill

>>

>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message

>> news:%23iRdjlZ8HHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>> SQL 2005 exist in 64 bits, so it will clearly boost on it.

>>> IIS is part of the system, so it would be 64 bits (to be confirmed).

>>>

>>> Are you sure of being able to use so much memory ?

>>> I would rather put two smaller server

>>>

>>> --

>>> Cordialement,

>>> Mathieu CHATEAU

>>>

>>> "Bill Nguyen" <billn_nospam_please@jaco.com> wrote in message

>>> news:e9eEZVZ8HHA.1444@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>I have 16GB in the server and would like to take advantage of it.

>>>> Will run IIS 6.0/7.0, sql2005, either 32 or 64-bit if necessary.

>>>>

>>>> Some on the web-based apps are developed using .NET, and I hope that

>>>> would run on both platform.

>>>> I have only CD for 32-bit. I need to know where I can download the

>>>> 64-bit standard version

>>>>

>>>> Thanks

>>>>

>>>> Bill

>>>>

>>>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message

>>>> news:uy1E2vW8HHA.5424@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>> Hello,

>>>>>

>>>>> What are you going to run onto ?

>>>>> 32 bits application can run on 64 bits through the WOW64, normally

>>>>> without notice.

>>>>> Which application do you expect to use the 16G of ram ? SQL ?

>>>>>

>>>>> Check if your application exist in 64 bits version, which would be the

>>>>> best.

>>>>>

>>>>> I think 32 bits & 64 bits version are the same price, but you would

>>>>> have to check.

>>>>>

>>>>> Are your CPU 64bits enabled (EMT64 for example) ?

>>>>>

>>>>> --

>>>>> Cordialement,

>>>>> Mathieu CHATEAU

>>>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com

>>>>>

>>>>> "Bill Nguyen" <billn_nospam_please@jaco.com> wrote in message

>>>>> news:Oso0YoW8HHA.600@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>>> Mathieu;

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I like this option since it's a true solution.

>>>>>> Is ther any draw back?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Also, where can I het the 64-bit? If I download the trial version,

>>>>>> can I use my open license ID to make it permanent?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Thanks

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Bill

>>>>>>

>>>>>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message

>>>>>> news:O9aSDCW8HHA.2476@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>> or go 64 bits ;)

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>> Cordialement,

>>>>>>> Mathieu CHATEAU

>>>>>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> "Edwin vMierlo [MVP]" <EdwinvMierlo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote

>>>>>>> in message news:%23UtUxFS8HHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>> unfortunately ... no

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> 1) you need enterprise for start

>>>>>>>> 2) enabale the /PAE boot switch (probably in combination with the

>>>>>>>> /3GB

>>>>>>>> switch)

>>>>>>>> 3) AND (!!) your application(s) need to be AWE compatible

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> ... then you can use all of your 16GB Ram

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> HTH,

>>>>>>>> Edwin.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> "Bill Nguyen" <billn_nospam_please@jaco.com> wrote in message

>>>>>>>> news:u1xs3SO8HHA.464@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>> I have a 16GB AM Dell Poweredge server. Can I install standard

>>>>>>>>> 2003

>>>>>>>> instead

>>>>>>>>> of enterprise version and still able to utilize all 16GB RAM?

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Thanks a million

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Bill

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>

>

September 10, 2007

Re: Standard 2003 4GB RAM barrier

Hello,

It should as it's not an oem license.

Install the trial and try to register it immediately to be sure it's ok. You

may only loose half an hour on worst ;)

--

Cordialement,

Mathieu CHATEAU

>> http://www.microsoft.com/servers/64bit/faqs.mspx

"Bill Nguyen" <billn_nospam_please@jaco.com> wrote in message

news:uZfN$578HHA.3916@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> Matthieu;

>

> I'm waiting for the media to arrive.

> I need to install the server in a hurry. Can I install the trial version

> then upgrade to licensed version later?

>

> Thanks

>

> Bill

>

> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message

> news:exICAhe8HHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> Yes, you license is valid for 64 bits:

>>

>> Volume licensing customers are free to exchange their 32-bit version of

>> Windows for the x64 version at any time, using their media kits.

>> Other customers should contact their OEM or regular fulfillment channels.

>> They may be able to assist you with media.

>>

>> --

>> Cordialement,

>> Mathieu CHATEAU

>>

>> "Bill Nguyen" <billn_nospam_please@jaco.com> wrote in message

>> news:%23xBtEea8HHA.1444@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>> Mathieu;

>>>

>>> I can take out 8GB to use elsewhere. Still, the point is to cross the

>>> 4GB barrier.

>>> Still need answer for this question, please:

>>>

>>> Also, where can I get the 64-bit? If I download the trial version, can I

>>> use my open license ID to make it permanent?

>>>

>>> Thanks

>>>

>>> Bill

>>>

>>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message

>>> news:%23iRdjlZ8HHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>> SQL 2005 exist in 64 bits, so it will clearly boost on it.

>>>> IIS is part of the system, so it would be 64 bits (to be confirmed).

>>>>

>>>> Are you sure of being able to use so much memory ?

>>>> I would rather put two smaller server

>>>>

>>>> --

>>>> Cordialement,

>>>> Mathieu CHATEAU

>>>>

>>>> "Bill Nguyen" <billn_nospam_please@jaco.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:e9eEZVZ8HHA.1444@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>>I have 16GB in the server and would like to take advantage of it.

>>>>> Will run IIS 6.0/7.0, sql2005, either 32 or 64-bit if necessary.

>>>>>

>>>>> Some on the web-based apps are developed using .NET, and I hope that

>>>>> would run on both platform.

>>>>> I have only CD for 32-bit. I need to know where I can download the

>>>>> 64-bit standard version

>>>>>

>>>>> Thanks

>>>>>

>>>>> Bill

>>>>>

>>>>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message

>>>>> news:uy1E2vW8HHA.5424@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>>> Hello,

>>>>>>

>>>>>> What are you going to run onto ?

>>>>>> 32 bits application can run on 64 bits through the WOW64, normally

>>>>>> without notice.

>>>>>> Which application do you expect to use the 16G of ram ? SQL ?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Check if your application exist in 64 bits version, which would be

>>>>>> the best.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I think 32 bits & 64 bits version are the same price, but you would

>>>>>> have to check.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Are your CPU 64bits enabled (EMT64 for example) ?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> --

>>>>>> Cordialement,

>>>>>> Mathieu CHATEAU

>>>>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com

>>>>>>

>>>>>> "Bill Nguyen" <billn_nospam_please@jaco.com> wrote in message

>>>>>> news:Oso0YoW8HHA.600@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>> Mathieu;

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> I like this option since it's a true solution.

>>>>>>> Is ther any draw back?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Also, where can I het the 64-bit? If I download the trial version,

>>>>>>> can I use my open license ID to make it permanent?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Thanks

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Bill

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message

>>>>>>> news:O9aSDCW8HHA.2476@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>> or go 64 bits ;)

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>> Cordialement,

>>>>>>>> Mathieu CHATEAU

>>>>>>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> "Edwin vMierlo [MVP]" <EdwinvMierlo@discussions.microsoft.com>

>>>>>>>> wrote in message news:%23UtUxFS8HHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>> unfortunately ... no

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> 1) you need enterprise for start

>>>>>>>>> 2) enabale the /PAE boot switch (probably in combination with the

>>>>>>>>> /3GB

>>>>>>>>> switch)

>>>>>>>>> 3) AND (!!) your application(s) need to be AWE compatible

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> ... then you can use all of your 16GB Ram

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> HTH,

>>>>>>>>> Edwin.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> "Bill Nguyen" <billn_nospam_please@jaco.com> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>> news:u1xs3SO8HHA.464@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>> I have a 16GB AM Dell Poweredge server. Can I install standard

>>>>>>>>>> 2003

>>>>>>>>> instead

>>>>>>>>>> of enterprise version and still able to utilize all 16GB RAM?

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Thanks a million

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Bill

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>

>

September 12, 2007

Re: Standard 2003 4GB RAM barrier

Mathieu;

I got it up & running well.

Thanks a bunch

Bill

"Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message

news:O9k%23p$78HHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> Hello,

>

> It should as it's not an oem license.

>

> Install the trial and try to register it immediately to be sure it's ok.

> You may only loose half an hour on worst ;)

>

> --

> Cordialement,

> Mathieu CHATEAU

>>> http://www.microsoft.com/servers/64bit/faqs.mspx

>

> "Bill Nguyen" <billn_nospam_please@jaco.com> wrote in message

> news:uZfN$578HHA.3916@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> Matthieu;

>>

>> I'm waiting for the media to arrive.

>> I need to install the server in a hurry. Can I install the trial version

>> then upgrade to licensed version later?

>>

>> Thanks

>>

>> Bill

>>

>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message

>> news:exICAhe8HHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>> Yes, you license is valid for 64 bits:

>>>

>>> Volume licensing customers are free to exchange their 32-bit version of

>>> Windows for the x64 version at any time, using their media kits.

>>> Other customers should contact their OEM or regular fulfillment

>>> channels. They may be able to assist you with media.

>>>

>>> --

>>> Cordialement,

>>> Mathieu CHATEAU

>>>

>>> "Bill Nguyen" <billn_nospam_please@jaco.com> wrote in message

>>> news:%23xBtEea8HHA.1444@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>> Mathieu;

>>>>

>>>> I can take out 8GB to use elsewhere. Still, the point is to cross the

>>>> 4GB barrier.

>>>> Still need answer for this question, please:

>>>>

>>>> Also, where can I get the 64-bit? If I download the trial version, can

>>>> I

>>>> use my open license ID to make it permanent?

>>>>

>>>> Thanks

>>>>

>>>> Bill

>>>>

>>>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message

>>>> news:%23iRdjlZ8HHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>> SQL 2005 exist in 64 bits, so it will clearly boost on it.

>>>>> IIS is part of the system, so it would be 64 bits (to be confirmed).

>>>>>

>>>>> Are you sure of being able to use so much memory ?

>>>>> I would rather put two smaller server

>>>>>

>>>>> --

>>>>> Cordialement,

>>>>> Mathieu CHATEAU

>>>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com

>>>>>

>>>>> "Bill Nguyen" <billn_nospam_please@jaco.com> wrote in message

>>>>> news:e9eEZVZ8HHA.1444@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>I have 16GB in the server and would like to take advantage of it.

>>>>>> Will run IIS 6.0/7.0, sql2005, either 32 or 64-bit if necessary.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Some on the web-based apps are developed using .NET, and I hope that

>>>>>> would run on both platform.

>>>>>> I have only CD for 32-bit. I need to know where I can download the

>>>>>> 64-bit standard version

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Thanks

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Bill

>>>>>>

>>>>>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message

>>>>>> news:uy1E2vW8HHA.5424@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>> Hello,

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> What are you going to run onto ?

>>>>>>> 32 bits application can run on 64 bits through the WOW64, normally

>>>>>>> without notice.

>>>>>>> Which application do you expect to use the 16G of ram ? SQL ?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Check if your application exist in 64 bits version, which would be

>>>>>>> the best.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> I think 32 bits & 64 bits version are the same price, but you would

>>>>>>> have to check.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Are your CPU 64bits enabled (EMT64 for example) ?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>> Cordialement,

>>>>>>> Mathieu CHATEAU

>>>>>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> "Bill Nguyen" <billn_nospam_please@jaco.com> wrote in message

>>>>>>> news:Oso0YoW8HHA.600@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>> Mathieu;

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> I like this option since it's a true solution.

>>>>>>>> Is ther any draw back?

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Also, where can I het the 64-bit? If I download the trial version,

>>>>>>>> can I use my open license ID to make it permanent?

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Thanks

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Bill

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message

>>>>>>>> news:O9aSDCW8HHA.2476@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>> or go 64 bits ;)

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>>> Cordialement,

>>>>>>>>> Mathieu CHATEAU

>>>>>>>>> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> "Edwin vMierlo [MVP]" <EdwinvMierlo@discussions.microsoft.com>

>>>>>>>>> wrote in message news:%23UtUxFS8HHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>> unfortunately ... no

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> 1) you need enterprise for start

>>>>>>>>>> 2) enabale the /PAE boot switch (probably in combination with the

>>>>>>>>>> /3GB

>>>>>>>>>> switch)

>>>>>>>>>> 3) AND (!!) your application(s) need to be AWE compatible

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> ... then you can use all of your 16GB Ram

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> HTH,

>>>>>>>>>> Edwin.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> "Bill Nguyen" <billn_nospam_please@jaco.com> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>> news:u1xs3SO8HHA.464@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>> I have a 16GB AM Dell Poweredge server. Can I install standard

>>>>>>>>>>> 2003

>>>>>>>>>> instead

>>>>>>>>>>> of enterprise version and still able to utilize all 16GB RAM?

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks a million

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Bill

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>

>

September 12, 2007

Re: Standard 2003 4GB RAM barrier

great :)

--

Cordialement,

Mathieu CHATEAU

"Bill Nguyen" <billn_nospam_please@jaco.com> wrote in message

news:u7rGTuN9HHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> Mathieu;

>

> I got it up & running well.

> Thanks a bunch

>

> Bill

>

> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message

> news:O9k%23p$78HHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> Hello,

>>

>> It should as it's not an oem license.

>>

>> Install the trial and try to register it immediately to be sure it's ok.

>> You may only loose half an hour on worst ;)

>>

>> --

>> Cordialement,

>> Mathieu CHATEAU

>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/servers/64bit/faqs.mspx

>>

>> "Bill Nguyen" <billn_nospam_please@jaco.com> wrote in message

>> news:uZfN$578HHA.3916@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>> Matthieu;

>>>

>>> I'm waiting for the media to arrive.

>>> I need to install the server in a hurry. Can I install the trial version

>>> then upgrade to licensed version later?

>>>

>>> Thanks

>>>

>>> Bill

>>>

>>> "Mathieu CHATEAU" <gollum123@free.fr> wrote in message

>>> news:exICAhe8HHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>> Yes, you license is valid for 64 bits:

>>>>

>>>> Volume licensing customers are free to exchange their 32-bit version of

>>>> Windows for the x64 version at any time, using their media kits.

>>>> Other customers should contact their OEM or regular fulfillment

>>>> channels. They may be able to assist you with media.

>>>>

>>>> --

>>>> Cordialement,

>>>> Mathieu CHATEAU