Guest John Posted September 8, 2007 Posted September 8, 2007 Hi, Just want to say, if you have some third party software to cleanup your hard drive, don't bother reading this. But, if you don't want to pay a company to do the hard work of cleaning your drive for you, consider reading this. A good way to start, is to clean up your disk. The more disk space you have, the faster your computer will run. Click on Start (Vista users click on the Windows Logo), click on run and type in "%temp%" without quotation marks. Click on OK. You will see lots (and I mean lots) of rubbish, just sitting there, with probably no point at all. Click on Edit, click on Select All, and hit 'DEL' on your keyboard. It deletes everything*. Why should you do this? IT'S ALL RUBBISH! Now, right click on the Taskbar and click on 'Show the Desktop'. Right click on the Recycle Bin and click on 'Empty the Recycle Bin'. * Some files such as 'cmdline.dll' do not delete. Best to just leave them alone and skip the file/folder. Okay, thats a start. Next, open Internet Explorer or your default web browser. In Internet Explorer, click on Tools, Options and click on Delete. Now click on Delete All. Clear the 'Also delete settings stored by add-ons' check box and click Yes. This deletes, Cookies, Temporary Internet Files, Form Data etc. So you have deleted IE's cache. Open Disk Cleanup on your computer. Select anything you want to delete and click 'OK'. Click Yes. Just 2 more steps to go, and you are finished speeding up Windows. Don't worry, this will only take a few minutes. The 4th step - Cleanup your registry. Windows processes your *ENTIRE* registry, whether there are several errors or not. This can slow down your startup time. A good registry cleaner can be downloaded here: http://www.wisecleaner.com/download.html Always, repeat, ALWAYS backup your registry before you clean it. If one thing goes wrong with the Windows registry, possibly everything does. Thats why you backup your registry and documents. Not enough proof? Well what happens when you accidently burn down your house, and you remember that you didn't buy insurance? Instructions for Wise Registry Cleaner are located here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgTkXAvtnCA 5 - Remove programs you don't use. You can do this in Add or Remove Programs. And the final step - Defrag your system! Click on start (Logo in Vista), point to All Programs, point to Accessories, point to System Tools and click on Disk Defragmenter. And then, click on Defragment! And there you have it! 6 Ways to speed up Windows! -- A story of success always has a beginning.
Guest Curt Christianson Posted September 8, 2007 Posted September 8, 2007 Re: 6 Ways to speed up Windows. Discussion of Registry "Cleaners" http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099 -- HTH, Curt Windows Support Center http://www.aumha.org Practically Nerded,... http://dundats.mvps.org/Index.htm
Guest Ron Badour Posted September 8, 2007 Posted September 8, 2007 Re: 6 Ways to speed up Windows. I'm afraid that some of your ideas are not supported by credible evidence: > A good way to start, is to clean up your disk. > The more disk space you have, the faster your computer will run. I don't believe this is true. > Click on Start (Vista users click on the Windows Logo), click on run and > type in "%temp%" without quotation marks. Click on OK. You will see lots > (and > I mean lots) of rubbish, just sitting there, with probably no point at > all. > Click on Edit, click on Select All, and hit 'DEL' on your keyboard. It > deletes everything*. Why should you do this? IT'S ALL RUBBISH! I agree but only because that some of the crap in the temp folder can cause problems, it does waste disk space and there is no sense in defraging temporary data that should have already been deleted. I don't see this as a performance issue. > * Some files such as ' cmdline.dll ' do not delete. Best to just leave > them > alone and skip the file/folder. Anything that is in the recyle bin should delete. In a quick Google search, I found speculation that cmdline.dll may be malware of some sort and if so, that would explain why it is hard to get rid of but not how it got in the trash bin. > The 4th step - Cleanup your registry. Windows processes your *ENTIRE* > registry, whether there are several errors or not. This can slow down your > startup time. Registry cleaners are all hype for the most part. What difference does it make if there are a hundred extraneous entries when there are hundreds of thousands of entries overall? Microsoft finally gave up on trying to make a reg cleaner. They apparently found out it was too destructive and they quietly removed it from the download section years ago. What will slow down the start up time and general performance is loading **needless** programs at boot and having them run in the background. > 5 - Remove programs you don't use. > You can do this in Add or Remove Programs. I don't see any reason to have unneeded programs on the drive but I don't see that removing them will increase performance unless they are running in the background. -- Regards Ron Badour MS MVP 1997 - 2007
Guest Curt Christianson Posted September 8, 2007 Posted September 8, 2007 Re: 6 Ways to speed up Windows. Sic 'em Ron! I knew if you were around we'd hear something. Thank you. -- HTH, Curt Windows Support Center http://www.aumha.org Practically Nerded,... http://dundats.mvps.org/Index.htm "Ron Badour" <Sorry@NoAddress.com> wrote in message news:e5Kczyc8HHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... | I'm afraid that some of your ideas are not supported by credible evidence: | | > A good way to start, is to clean up your disk. | > The more disk space you have, the faster your computer will run. | | I don't believe this is true. | | > Click on Start (Vista users click on the Windows Logo), click on run and | > type in "%temp%" without quotation marks. Click on OK. You will see lots | > (and | > I mean lots) of rubbish, just sitting there, with probably no point at | > all. | > Click on Edit, click on Select All, and hit 'DEL' on your keyboard. It | > deletes everything*. Why should you do this? IT'S ALL RUBBISH! | | I agree but only because that some of the crap in the temp folder can cause | problems, it does waste disk space and there is no sense in defraging | temporary data that should have already been deleted. I don't see this as a | performance issue. | | > * Some files such as ' cmdline.dll ' do not delete. Best to just leave | > them | > alone and skip the file/folder. | | Anything that is in the recyle bin should delete. In a quick Google search, | I found speculation that cmdline.dll may be malware of some sort and if so, | that would explain why it is hard to get rid of but not how it got in the | trash bin. | | > The 4th step - Cleanup your registry. Windows processes your *ENTIRE* | > registry, whether there are several errors or not. This can slow down your | > startup time. | | Registry cleaners are all hype for the most part. What difference does it | make if there are a hundred extraneous entries when there are hundreds of | thousands of entries overall? Microsoft finally gave up on trying to make a | reg cleaner. They apparently found out it was too destructive and they | quietly removed it from the download section years ago. What will slow down | the start up time and general performance is loading **needless** programs | at boot and having them run in the background. | | > 5 - Remove programs you don't use. | > You can do this in Add or Remove Programs. | | I don't see any reason to have unneeded programs on the drive but I don't | see that removing them will increase performance unless they are running in | the background. | -- | Regards | | Ron Badour | MS MVP 1997 - 2007 | | | | | | |
Guest Curt Christianson Posted September 8, 2007 Posted September 8, 2007 Re: 6 Ways to speed up Windows. Sic 'em Ron! I knew if you were around we'd hear something. Thank you. -- HTH, Curt Windows Support Center http://www.aumha.org Practically Nerded,... http://dundats.mvps.org/Index.htm "Ron Badour" <Sorry@NoAddress.com> wrote in message news:e5Kczyc8HHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... | I'm afraid that some of your ideas are not supported by credible evidence: | | > A good way to start, is to clean up your disk. | > The more disk space you have, the faster your computer will run. | | I don't believe this is true. | | > Click on Start (Vista users click on the Windows Logo), click on run and | > type in "%temp%" without quotation marks. Click on OK. You will see lots | > (and | > I mean lots) of rubbish, just sitting there, with probably no point at | > all. | > Click on Edit, click on Select All, and hit 'DEL' on your keyboard. It | > deletes everything*. Why should you do this? IT'S ALL RUBBISH! | | I agree but only because that some of the crap in the temp folder can cause | problems, it does waste disk space and there is no sense in defraging | temporary data that should have already been deleted. I don't see this as a | performance issue. | | > * Some files such as ' cmdline.dll ' do not delete. Best to just leave | > them | > alone and skip the file/folder. | | Anything that is in the recyle bin should delete. In a quick Google search, | I found speculation that cmdline.dll may be malware of some sort and if so, | that would explain why it is hard to get rid of but not how it got in the | trash bin. | | > The 4th step - Cleanup your registry. Windows processes your *ENTIRE* | > registry, whether there are several errors or not. This can slow down your | > startup time. | | Registry cleaners are all hype for the most part. What difference does it | make if there are a hundred extraneous entries when there are hundreds of | thousands of entries overall? Microsoft finally gave up on trying to make a | reg cleaner. They apparently found out it was too destructive and they | quietly removed it from the download section years ago. What will slow down | the start up time and general performance is loading **needless** programs | at boot and having them run in the background. | | > 5 - Remove programs you don't use. | > You can do this in Add or Remove Programs. | | I don't see any reason to have unneeded programs on the drive but I don't | see that removing them will increase performance unless they are running in | the background. | -- | Regards | | Ron Badour | MS MVP 1997 - 2007 | | | | | | |
Guest John Posted September 8, 2007 Posted September 8, 2007 Re: 6 Ways to speed up Windows. Yeah, but I pointed out a DIFFERENT registry cleaner. And it cleaned my registry - I made sure that it did. Didn't you test other programs before you said that everything in my post was wrong? -- A story of success always has a beginning. "Curt Christianson" wrote: > Discussion of Registry "Cleaners" > http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099 > > -- > HTH, > Curt > > Windows Support Center > http://www.aumha.org > Practically Nerded,... > http://dundats.mvps.org/Index.htm > > >
Guest John Posted September 8, 2007 Posted September 8, 2007 Re: 6 Ways to speed up Windows. > I agree but only because that some of the crap in the temp folder can cause > problems, it does waste disk space and there is no sense in defraging > temporary data that should have already been deleted. I don't see this as a > performance issue. I disk defragmenter defragments your ENTIRE system. Didn't you think about that? When did I say only to defragment the TEMP folder? -- A story of success always has a beginning. "Ron Badour" wrote: > I'm afraid that some of your ideas are not supported by credible evidence: > > > A good way to start, is to clean up your disk. > > The more disk space you have, the faster your computer will run. > > I don't believe this is true. > > > Click on Start (Vista users click on the Windows Logo), click on run and > > type in "%temp%" without quotation marks. Click on OK. You will see lots > > (and > > I mean lots) of rubbish, just sitting there, with probably no point at > > all. > > Click on Edit, click on Select All, and hit 'DEL' on your keyboard. It > > deletes everything*. Why should you do this? IT'S ALL RUBBISH! > > I agree but only because that some of the crap in the temp folder can cause > problems, it does waste disk space and there is no sense in defraging > temporary data that should have already been deleted. I don't see this as a > performance issue. > > > * Some files such as ' cmdline.dll ' do not delete. Best to just leave > > them > > alone and skip the file/folder. > > Anything that is in the recyle bin should delete. In a quick Google search, > I found speculation that cmdline.dll may be malware of some sort and if so, > that would explain why it is hard to get rid of but not how it got in the > trash bin. > > > The 4th step - Cleanup your registry. Windows processes your *ENTIRE* > > registry, whether there are several errors or not. This can slow down your > > startup time. > > Registry cleaners are all hype for the most part. What difference does it > make if there are a hundred extraneous entries when there are hundreds of > thousands of entries overall? Microsoft finally gave up on trying to make a > reg cleaner. They apparently found out it was too destructive and they > quietly removed it from the download section years ago. What will slow down > the start up time and general performance is loading **needless** programs > at boot and having them run in the background. > > > 5 - Remove programs you don't use. > > You can do this in Add or Remove Programs. > > I don't see any reason to have unneeded programs on the drive but I don't > see that removing them will increase performance unless they are running in > the background. > -- > Regards > > Ron Badour > MS MVP 1997 - 2007 > > > > > > > >
Guest John Posted September 8, 2007 Posted September 8, 2007 Re: 6 Ways to speed up Windows. Ah, so you just want to rant about my post do you? -- A story of success always has a beginning. "Curt Christianson" wrote: > Sic 'em Ron! I knew if you were around we'd hear something. Thank you. > > -- > HTH, > Curt > > Windows Support Center > http://www.aumha.org > Practically Nerded,... > http://dundats.mvps.org/Index.htm > > "Ron Badour" <Sorry@NoAddress.com> wrote in message > news:e5Kczyc8HHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > | I'm afraid that some of your ideas are not supported by credible evidence: > | > | > A good way to start, is to clean up your disk. > | > The more disk space you have, the faster your computer will run. > | > | I don't believe this is true. > | > | > Click on Start (Vista users click on the Windows Logo), click on run and > | > type in "%temp%" without quotation marks. Click on OK. You will see lots > | > (and > | > I mean lots) of rubbish, just sitting there, with probably no point at > | > all. > | > Click on Edit, click on Select All, and hit 'DEL' on your keyboard. It > | > deletes everything*. Why should you do this? IT'S ALL RUBBISH! > | > | I agree but only because that some of the crap in the temp folder can > cause > | problems, it does waste disk space and there is no sense in defraging > | temporary data that should have already been deleted. I don't see this as > a > | performance issue. > | > | > * Some files such as ' cmdline.dll ' do not delete. Best to just leave > | > them > | > alone and skip the file/folder. > | > | Anything that is in the recyle bin should delete. In a quick Google > search, > | I found speculation that cmdline.dll may be malware of some sort and if > so, > | that would explain why it is hard to get rid of but not how it got in the > | trash bin. > | > | > The 4th step - Cleanup your registry. Windows processes your *ENTIRE* > | > registry, whether there are several errors or not. This can slow down > your > | > startup time. > | > | Registry cleaners are all hype for the most part. What difference does it > | make if there are a hundred extraneous entries when there are hundreds of > | thousands of entries overall? Microsoft finally gave up on trying to make > a > | reg cleaner. They apparently found out it was too destructive and they > | quietly removed it from the download section years ago. What will slow > down > | the start up time and general performance is loading **needless** programs > | at boot and having them run in the background. > | > | > 5 - Remove programs you don't use. > | > You can do this in Add or Remove Programs. > | > | I don't see any reason to have unneeded programs on the drive but I don't > | see that removing them will increase performance unless they are running > in > | the background. > | -- > | Regards > | > | Ron Badour > | MS MVP 1997 - 2007 > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > > >
Guest Curt Christianson Posted September 8, 2007 Posted September 8, 2007 Re: 6 Ways to speed up Windows. Where did I say *everything* in your post was wrong?? *Nowhere* I ONLY posted a link to a discussion of Registry Cleaners. -- HTH, Curt Windows Support Center http://www.aumha.org Practically Nerded,... http://dundats.mvps.org/Index.htm "John" <chicken989-chickens@yahoo.com.au.myyahoodisposableaddress> wrote in message news:2DD47207-ABB4-4D65-9AA5-328D13130D3E@microsoft.com... | Yeah, but I pointed out a DIFFERENT registry cleaner. | | And it cleaned my registry - I made sure that it did. | | Didn't you test other programs before you said that everything in my post | was wrong? | -- | A story of success always has a beginning. | | | "Curt Christianson" wrote: | | > Discussion of Registry "Cleaners" | > http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099 | > | > -- | > HTH, | > Curt | > | > Windows Support Center | > http://www.aumha.org | > Practically Nerded,... | > http://dundats.mvps.org/Index.htm | > | > | >
Guest Curt Christianson Posted September 8, 2007 Posted September 8, 2007 Re: 6 Ways to speed up Windows. You are right, a disk defragmenter defrags the entire system,but Ron never accused you of saying "only the Temp folder". -- HTH, Curt Windows Support Center http://www.aumha.org Practically Nerded,... http://dundats.mvps.org/Index.htm "John" <chicken989-chickens@yahoo.com.au.myyahoodisposableaddress> wrote in message news:8E2070A1-DB55-45F8-B51F-FDBFCD83CCD0@microsoft.com... |> I agree but only because that some of the crap in the temp folder can cause | > problems, it does waste disk space and there is no sense in defraging | > temporary data that should have already been deleted. I don't see this as a | > performance issue. | | I disk defragmenter defragments your ENTIRE system. Didn't you think about | that? | When did I say only to defragment the TEMP folder? | -- | A story of success always has a beginning. | | | "Ron Badour" wrote: | | > I'm afraid that some of your ideas are not supported by credible evidence: | > | > > A good way to start, is to clean up your disk. | > > The more disk space you have, the faster your computer will run. | > | > I don't believe this is true. | > | > > Click on Start (Vista users click on the Windows Logo), click on run and | > > type in "%temp%" without quotation marks. Click on OK. You will see lots | > > (and | > > I mean lots) of rubbish, just sitting there, with probably no point at | > > all. | > > Click on Edit, click on Select All, and hit 'DEL' on your keyboard. It | > > deletes everything*. Why should you do this? IT'S ALL RUBBISH! | > | > I agree but only because that some of the crap in the temp folder can cause | > problems, it does waste disk space and there is no sense in defraging | > temporary data that should have already been deleted. I don't see this as a | > performance issue. | > | > > * Some files such as ' cmdline.dll ' do not delete. Best to just leave | > > them | > > alone and skip the file/folder. | > | > Anything that is in the recyle bin should delete. In a quick Google search, | > I found speculation that cmdline.dll may be malware of some sort and if so, | > that would explain why it is hard to get rid of but not how it got in the | > trash bin. | > | > > The 4th step - Cleanup your registry. Windows processes your *ENTIRE* | > > registry, whether there are several errors or not. This can slow down your | > > startup time. | > | > Registry cleaners are all hype for the most part. What difference does it | > make if there are a hundred extraneous entries when there are hundreds of | > thousands of entries overall? Microsoft finally gave up on trying to make a | > reg cleaner. They apparently found out it was too destructive and they | > quietly removed it from the download section years ago. What will slow down | > the start up time and general performance is loading **needless** programs | > at boot and having them run in the background. | > | > > 5 - Remove programs you don't use. | > > You can do this in Add or Remove Programs. | > | > I don't see any reason to have unneeded programs on the drive but I don't | > see that removing them will increase performance unless they are running in | > the background. | > -- | > Regards | > | > Ron Badour | > MS MVP 1997 - 2007 | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | >
Guest Ron Badour Posted September 8, 2007 Posted September 8, 2007 Re: 6 Ways to speed up Windows. I didn't say that--I said I agree with deleting the junk in the temp folder because it makes no sense to have to defrag useless data that should have been deleted. However, from a performance stand point, deleting the junk in the temp folder makes no difference to a computer's speed. -- Regards Ron Badour MS MVP 1997 - 2007 "John" <chicken989-chickens@yahoo.com.au.myyahoodisposableaddress> wrote in message news:8E2070A1-DB55-45F8-B51F-FDBFCD83CCD0@microsoft.com... >> I agree but only because that some of the crap in the temp folder can >> cause >> problems, it does waste disk space and there is no sense in defraging >> temporary data that should have already been deleted. I don't see this >> as a >> performance issue. > > I disk defragmenter defragments your ENTIRE system. Didn't you think about > that? > When did I say only to defragment the TEMP folder? > -- > A story of success always has a beginning. > > > "Ron Badour" wrote: > >> I'm afraid that some of your ideas are not supported by credible >> evidence: >> >> > A good way to start, is to clean up your disk. >> > The more disk space you have, the faster your computer will run. >> >> I don't believe this is true. >> >> > Click on Start (Vista users click on the Windows Logo), click on run >> > and >> > type in "%temp%" without quotation marks. Click on OK. You will see >> > lots >> > (and >> > I mean lots) of rubbish, just sitting there, with probably no point at >> > all. >> > Click on Edit, click on Select All, and hit 'DEL' on your keyboard. It >> > deletes everything*. Why should you do this? IT'S ALL RUBBISH! >> >> I agree but only because that some of the crap in the temp folder can >> cause >> problems, it does waste disk space and there is no sense in defraging >> temporary data that should have already been deleted. I don't see this >> as a >> performance issue. >> >> > * Some files such as ' cmdline.dll ' do not delete. Best to just leave >> > them >> > alone and skip the file/folder. >> >> Anything that is in the recyle bin should delete. In a quick Google >> search, >> I found speculation that cmdline.dll may be malware of some sort and if >> so, >> that would explain why it is hard to get rid of but not how it got in the >> trash bin. >> >> > The 4th step - Cleanup your registry. Windows processes your *ENTIRE* >> > registry, whether there are several errors or not. This can slow down >> > your >> > startup time. >> >> Registry cleaners are all hype for the most part. What difference does >> it >> make if there are a hundred extraneous entries when there are hundreds of >> thousands of entries overall? Microsoft finally gave up on trying to >> make a >> reg cleaner. They apparently found out it was too destructive and they >> quietly removed it from the download section years ago. What will slow >> down >> the start up time and general performance is loading **needless** >> programs >> at boot and having them run in the background. >> >> > 5 - Remove programs you don't use. >> > You can do this in Add or Remove Programs. >> >> I don't see any reason to have unneeded programs on the drive but I don't >> see that removing them will increase performance unless they are running >> in >> the background. >> -- >> Regards >> >> Ron Badour >> MS MVP 1997 - 2007 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
Guest Bruce Chambers Posted September 8, 2007 Posted September 8, 2007 Re: 6 Ways to speed up Windows. John wrote: > Ah, so you just want to rant about my post do you? Considering that your so-called "advice" was mostly nonsense, what did you expect? -- Bruce Chambers Help us help you: http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. -Bertrand Russell
Guest Bruce Chambers Posted September 8, 2007 Posted September 8, 2007 Re: 6 Ways to speed up Windows. John wrote: > Yeah, but I pointed out a DIFFERENT registry cleaner. > > And it cleaned my registry - I made sure that it did. > > Didn't you test other programs before you said that everything in my post > was wrong? Having repeatedly seen the results of inexperienced people using automated registry "cleaners," I can only advise all but the most experienced computer technicians (and/or hobbyists) to avoid them all. Experience has shown me that such tools simply are not safe in the hands of the inexperienced user. If you lack the knowledge and experience to maintain your registry by yourself, then you also lack the knowledge and experience to safely configure and use any automated registry cleaner, no matter how safe they claim to be. More importantly, no one has *ever* demonstrated that the use of an automated registry cleaner, particularly by an untrained, inexperienced computer user, does _any_ real good, whatsoever. There's certainly been no empirical evidence offered to demonstrate that the use of such products to "clean" WinXP's registry improves a computer's performance or stability. Given the potential for harm, it's just not worth the risk. Granted, most registry "cleaners" won't cause problems each and every time they're used, but the potential for harm is always there. And, since no registry "cleaner" has ever been demonstrated to do any good (think of them like treating the flu with chicken soup - there's no real medicinal value, but it sometimes provides a warming placebo effect), I always tell people that the risks far out-weigh the non-existent benefits. I will concede that a good registry scanning tool, in the hands of an experienced and knowledgeable technician or hobbyist can be a useful time-saving diagnostic tool, as long as it's not allowed to make any changes automatically. But I really don't think that there are any registry cleaners that are truly safe for the general public to use. Experience has proven just the opposite: such tools simply are not safe in the hands of the inexperienced user. -- Bruce Chambers Help us help you: http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. -Bertrand Russell
Guest Doug W. Posted September 8, 2007 Posted September 8, 2007 Re: 6 Ways to speed up Windows. "Experience has proven just the opposite: such tools simply are not safe in the hands of the inexperienced user." - I agree Bruce. - Perhaps "John" should just take a good "colon" cleaner...probably do as much go. - Doug W. - "Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message news:ujklqIj8HHA.5504@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > John wrote: >> Yeah, but I pointed out a DIFFERENT registry cleaner. >> >> And it cleaned my registry - I made sure that it did. >> >> Didn't you test other programs before you said that >> everything in my post was wrong? > > > Having repeatedly seen the results of inexperienced people > using automated registry "cleaners," I can only advise all > but the most experienced computer technicians (and/or > hobbyists) to avoid them all. Experience has shown me that > such tools simply are not safe in the hands of the > inexperienced user. If you lack the knowledge and experience > to maintain your registry by yourself, then you also lack the > knowledge and experience to safely configure and use any > automated registry cleaner, no matter how safe they claim to > be. > > More importantly, no one has *ever* demonstrated that the > use of an automated registry cleaner, particularly by an > untrained, inexperienced computer user, does _any_ real good, > whatsoever. There's certainly been no empirical evidence > offered to demonstrate that the use of such products to > "clean" WinXP's registry improves a computer's performance or > stability. Given the potential for harm, it's just not worth > the risk. > > Granted, most registry "cleaners" won't cause problems > each and every time they're used, but the potential for harm > is always there. And, since no registry "cleaner" has ever > been demonstrated to do any good (think of them like treating > the flu with chicken soup - there's no real medicinal value, > but it sometimes provides a warming placebo effect), I always > tell people that the risks far out-weigh the non-existent > benefits. > > I will concede that a good registry scanning tool, in the > hands of an experienced and knowledgeable technician or > hobbyist can be a useful time-saving diagnostic tool, as long > as it's not allowed to make any changes automatically. But I > really don't think that there are any registry cleaners that > are truly safe for the general public to use. Experience has > proven just the opposite: such tools simply are not safe in > the hands of the inexperienced user. > > > -- > > Bruce Chambers > > Help us help you: > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm > http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html > > They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little > temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin > Franklin > > Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most > do. -Bertrand Russell
Guest Ken Blake, MVP Posted September 8, 2007 Posted September 8, 2007 Re: 6 Ways to speed up Windows. On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 20:00:00 -0700, John <chicken989-chickens@yahoo.com.au.myyahoodisposableaddress> wrote: > Hi, > > Just want to say, if you have some third party software to cleanup your hard > drive, don't bother reading this. But, if you don't want to pay a company to > do the hard work of cleaning your drive for you, consider reading this. You've already gotten other responses that said the same things I say below, but they are worth repeating. > A good way to start, is to clean up your disk. > The more disk space you have, the faster your computer will run. Completely false. Deleting unneeded files is often a good thing to do (if you know what you are doing), because it makes more room for files you do need, but it has no effect on performance. > Click on Start (Vista users click on the Windows Logo), click on run and > type in "%temp%" without quotation marks. Click on OK. You will see lots (and > I mean lots) of rubbish, just sitting there, with probably no point at all. > Click on Edit, click on Select All, and hit 'DEL' on your keyboard. It > deletes everything*. Why should you do this? IT'S ALL RUBBISH! Deleting temp files is certainly good to do, but it has *no* effect on performance. > Now, right click on the Taskbar and click on 'Show the Desktop'. Right click > on the Recycle Bin and click on 'Empty the Recycle Bin'. The purpose of the recycle bin is to enable you to easily recover files accidentally deleted. If you delete what's there, you lose that ability. If you don't want that ability, simply turn off the use of the Recycle Bin. Although I do *not* recommend that, it provides the same effect as your recommendation much more easily. Certainly the Recycle Bin contents should be deleted periodically, but only after assuring yourself that you don't need anything there. And this recommendation, too, has *no* effect on performance. > * Some files such as 'cmdline.dll' do not delete. Why not? > Best to just leave them > alone and skip the file/folder. Why? > Okay, thats a start. > > Next, open Internet Explorer or your default web browser. > > In Internet Explorer, click on Tools, Options and click on Delete. > Now click on Delete All. Clear the 'Also delete settings stored by add-ons' > check box and click Yes. > > This deletes, Cookies, Temporary Internet Files, Form Data etc. > > So you have deleted IE's cache. Open Disk Cleanup on your computer. > Select anything you want to delete and click 'OK'. Click Yes. > > Just 2 more steps to go, and you are finished speeding up Windows. > Don't worry, this will only take a few minutes. > > The 4th step - Cleanup your registry. Windows processes your *ENTIRE* > registry, whether there are several errors or not. This can slow down your > startup time. This is the worst advice of all. I strongly suggest you avoid using any registry cleaning program. Cleaning of the registry isn't needed and is dangerous. Leave the registry alone and don't use any registry cleaner. Despite what many people think, and what vendors of registry cleaning software try to convince you of, having unused registry entries doesn't really hurt you. The risk of a serious problem caused by a registry cleaner erroneously removing an entry you need is far greater than any potential benefit it may have. > A good registry cleaner can be downloaded here: > http://www.wisecleaner.com/download.html > > Always, repeat, ALWAYS backup your registry before you clean it. Yes, if you must do this, that is of course excellent advice. But better advice is not to use the registry cleaner at all. If the result of using the registry cleaner is an unbootable computer (and that unfortunately does sometimes happen) the backup won't help you at all. > If one thing goes wrong with the Windows registry, possibly everything does. > Thats why you backup your registry and documents. Not enough proof? Well > what happens when you accidently burn down your house, and you remember that > you didn't buy insurance? > Instructions for Wise Registry Cleaner are located here: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgTkXAvtnCA > > 5 - Remove programs you don't use. > You can do this in Add or Remove Programs. That's certainly not bad advice, but again, it will have *no* effect on performance. All in all, a poor collection of recommendations. -- Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User Please Reply to the Newsgroup
Guest HeyBub Posted September 8, 2007 Posted September 8, 2007 Re: 6 Ways to speed up Windows. John wrote: > The more disk space you have, the faster your computer will run. Not true. > This deletes, Cookies, Temporary Internet Files, Form Data etc. Which have no effect on computer speed. > > The 4th step - Cleanup your registry. Windows processes your *ENTIRE* > registry, whether there are several errors or not. This can slow down > your startup time. Windows loads the registry, true. This takes about 5 milliseconds. > A good registry cleaner can be downloaded here: > http://www.wisecleaner.com/download.html There is no such thing as a "good registry cleaner." > 5 - Remove programs you don't use. Superfluous programs do not slow down a computer. > And the final step - Defrag your system! This does help with computer efficiency. Marginally. > > 6 Ways to speed up Windows! 1 Ways to speed up Windows!
Guest Lil' Dave Posted September 9, 2007 Posted September 9, 2007 Re: 6 Ways to speed up Windows. Speed up? More like cleanup unused stuff and make some filespace for the most part. "John" <chicken989-chickens@yahoo.com.au.myyahoodisposableaddress> wrote in message news:477E9989-85BA-4172-8BA4-2E8BBDEA4E9E@microsoft.com... > Hi, > > Just want to say, if you have some third party software to cleanup your > hard > drive, don't bother reading this. But, if you don't want to pay a company > to > do the hard work of cleaning your drive for you, consider reading this. > > A good way to start, is to clean up your disk. > The more disk space you have, the faster your computer will run. > Click on Start (Vista users click on the Windows Logo), click on run and > type in "%temp%" without quotation marks. Click on OK. You will see lots > (and > I mean lots) of rubbish, just sitting there, with probably no point at > all. > Click on Edit, click on Select All, and hit 'DEL' on your keyboard. It > deletes everything*. Why should you do this? IT'S ALL RUBBISH! > Vast majority is just that. Doesn't speed up anything by its elimination. > Now, right click on the Taskbar and click on 'Show the Desktop'. Right > click > on the Recycle Bin and click on 'Empty the Recycle Bin'. > Okay. Same as above. > * Some files such as 'cmdline.dll' do not delete. Best to just leave them > alone and skip the file/folder. > > Okay, thats a start. > > Next, open Internet Explorer or your default web browser. > > In Internet Explorer, click on Tools, Options and click on Delete. > Now click on Delete All. Clear the 'Also delete settings stored by > add-ons' > check box and click Yes. > Here we go again... > This deletes, Cookies, Temporary Internet Files, Form Data etc. > > So you have deleted IE's cache. Open Disk Cleanup on your computer. > Select anything you want to delete and click 'OK'. Click Yes. You want to do this for many reasons, but not to speed up the PC. > > Just 2 more steps to go, and you are finished speeding up Windows. > Don't worry, this will only take a few minutes. > > The 4th step - Cleanup your registry. Windows processes your *ENTIRE* > registry, whether there are several errors or not. This can slow down your > startup time. > > A good registry cleaner can be downloaded here: > http://www.wisecleaner.com/download.html > > Always, repeat, ALWAYS backup your registry before you clean it. > If one thing goes wrong with the Windows registry, possibly everything > does. > Thats why you backup your registry and documents. Not enough proof? Well > what happens when you accidently burn down your house, and you remember > that > you didn't buy insurance? > > Instructions for Wise Registry Cleaner are located here: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgTkXAvtnCA > Okay, I've backed up the registry, used the registry cleaner. Rebooted. Now can't get windows to open. > 5 - Remove programs you don't use. > You can do this in Add or Remove Programs. > Just removing files from the hard drive. And possibly some boot items in the startup group. The latter could help a little. > And the final step - Defrag your system! > Click on start (Logo in Vista), point to All Programs, point to > Accessories, > point to System Tools and click on Disk Defragmenter. > And then, click on Defragment! > Windows does this automatically in the background as long as you don't turn off the PC. Good descriptor of most users. > And there you have it! > > 6 Ways to speed up Windows! > -- > A story of success always has a beginning. Not a Vista newsgroup. Thanks. Dave
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