FREEZE! You're a genius if you can figure this one out!!!

September 8, 2007

Homegrown with MSI K8T Neo-V and AMD Athlon 64bit 754 socket 3400+; 1.5GB

Ram, ATI Radeon X1600Pro AGP 512MB video, 4 HD's, 2 SATA and all 4 connected

to PCI adaptor card. The machine freezes up at random but always when a

video file, such as an .wmv or internet feed news video is played.

Downloaded .wmv files also cause it to freeze. I have to reboot as it will

not accept any keyboard or mouse commands. Videos from online sources, DVD

or one of my stored Pinnacle videos is played. I am using Windows Media

Player. Plugins are installed for DVD play. I also have Nero 7 Ultra

Edition and Microsoft Plus! Digital Media Edition installed. MP3, CDs and

WMA files played through WMP do not cause a problem.

Here is what I have been through both here and at a local shop:

Replaced the motjherboard and processor with identical components in hopes

of not having to reload all of my software. Tried 4 different MBs, identical

to the original.

Purchased new 160GB HD and did a clean install of XP SP2 OS using the shop's

disc; my license.

Purchased two new 1GB Ram, one of which was then declared bad by the shop

(it does post up in another computer) DDR

I have uninstalled/downloaded/installed various versions of Windows Media

Player

I have uninstalled/downloaded/installed various versions of Adobe Reader

As I write this I put a video in the DVD player. It plays UNTIL I attempt

to use the control for full screen either by double clicking on the image or

using the pull down menu for view. Freezes up.

Swapped out video cards

Eliminated all hardware and built it back up with new drivers.

Checked for viruses home and at the shop.

At this moment I'm working in Corel Paint Shop Pro without any difficulties.

I also have not had any problems playing FreeCell. Emails through Microsoft

Outlook and online page loading have not been a problem. The tech said one

stick of the new 1GB Sandisc ram failed to post but I have a 512 in there and

it posts with the other 1GB, showing 1.5 GB. The tech said he swapped ram in

the two slots with no post.

What's left???

thanks

September 8, 2007

RE: FREEZE! You're a genius if you can figure this one out!!!

Here's another twist: although audio files play through WM I just attempted

to play one in Nero 7 and the system immediately froze up.

Go figure.

"Al Can Help" wrote:

> Homegrown with MSI K8T Neo-V and AMD Athlon 64bit 754 socket 3400+; 1.5GB

> Ram, ATI Radeon X1600Pro AGP 512MB video, 4 HD's, 2 SATA and all 4 connected

> to PCI adaptor card. The machine freezes up at random but always when a

> video file, such as an .wmv or internet feed news video is played.

> Downloaded .wmv files also cause it to freeze. I have to reboot as it will

> not accept any keyboard or mouse commands. Videos from online sources, DVD

> or one of my stored Pinnacle videos is played. I am using Windows Media

> Player. Plugins are installed for DVD play. I also have Nero 7 Ultra

> Edition and Microsoft Plus! Digital Media Edition installed. MP3, CDs and

> WMA files played through WMP do not cause a problem.

> Here is what I have been through both here and at a local shop:

> Replaced the motjherboard and processor with identical components in hopes

> of not having to reload all of my software. Tried 4 different MBs, identical

> to the original.

> Purchased new 160GB HD and did a clean install of XP SP2 OS using the shop's

> disc; my license.

> Purchased two new 1GB Ram, one of which was then declared bad by the shop

> (it does post up in another computer) DDR

> I have uninstalled/downloaded/installed various versions of Windows Media

> Player

> I have uninstalled/downloaded/installed various versions of Adobe Reader

> As I write this I put a video in the DVD player. It plays UNTIL I attempt

> to use the control for full screen either by double clicking on the image or

> using the pull down menu for view. Freezes up.

> Swapped out video cards

> Eliminated all hardware and built it back up with new drivers.

> Checked for viruses home and at the shop.

> At this moment I'm working in Corel Paint Shop Pro without any difficulties.

> I also have not had any problems playing FreeCell. Emails through Microsoft

> Outlook and online page loading have not been a problem. The tech said one

> stick of the new 1GB Sandisc ram failed to post but I have a 512 in there and

> it posts with the other 1GB, showing 1.5 GB. The tech said he swapped ram in

> the two slots with no post.

> What's left???

> thanks

>

September 8, 2007

Re: FREEZE! You're a genius if you can figure this one out!!!

Motherboard BIOS flashed to latest release ?, Using the latest Chipset

driver package?

Four disk drives, 2 SATA and 2 IDE ? Which ones are connected to a

PCI controller card and what Vendor/Model PCI add-in card.

Sounds to me like a possible IRQ mapping issue. I'd look and check

that the system is using a APIC controller ( 23 IRQs ), MsInfo32.Exe

to check IRQ map.

I'd probably drop any traditional IDE/PATA devices and use SATA

exclusively. It would also be a good idea to Chkdsk all your volumes.

You would also want to verify that all drives are operating at their

highest rated UDMA modes ( 5 or 6 ).

"Al Can Help" <AlCanHelp@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:CA71E627-BEC0-487E-8341-B69484B8ECFD@microsoft.com...

> Homegrown with MSI K8T Neo-V and AMD Athlon 64bit 754 socket 3400+; 1.5GB

> Ram, ATI Radeon X1600Pro AGP 512MB video, 4 HD's, 2 SATA and all 4

> connected

> to PCI adaptor card. The machine freezes up at random but always when a

> video file, such as an .wmv or internet feed news video is played.

> Downloaded .wmv files also cause it to freeze. I have to reboot as it

> will

> not accept any keyboard or mouse commands. Videos from online sources,

> DVD

> or one of my stored Pinnacle videos is played. I am using Windows Media

> Player. Plugins are installed for DVD play. I also have Nero 7 Ultra

> Edition and Microsoft Plus! Digital Media Edition installed. MP3, CDs and

> WMA files played through WMP do not cause a problem.

> Here is what I have been through both here and at a local shop:

> Replaced the motjherboard and processor with identical components in hopes

> of not having to reload all of my software. Tried 4 different MBs,

> identical

> to the original.

> Purchased new 160GB HD and did a clean install of XP SP2 OS using the

> shop's

> disc; my license.

> Purchased two new 1GB Ram, one of which was then declared bad by the shop

> (it does post up in another computer) DDR

> I have uninstalled/downloaded/installed various versions of Windows Media

> Player

> I have uninstalled/downloaded/installed various versions of Adobe Reader

> As I write this I put a video in the DVD player. It plays UNTIL I attempt

> to use the control for full screen either by double clicking on the image

> or

> using the pull down menu for view. Freezes up.

> Swapped out video cards

> Eliminated all hardware and built it back up with new drivers.

> Checked for viruses home and at the shop.

> At this moment I'm working in Corel Paint Shop Pro without any

> difficulties.

> I also have not had any problems playing FreeCell. Emails through

> Microsoft

> Outlook and online page loading have not been a problem. The tech said

> one

> stick of the new 1GB Sandisc ram failed to post but I have a 512 in there

> and

> it posts with the other 1GB, showing 1.5 GB. The tech said he swapped ram

> in

> the two slots with no post.

> What's left???

> thanks

>

September 8, 2007

Re: FREEZE! You're a genius if you can figure this one out!!!

And; you havent used msupdate for any drivers have you?

"Al Can Help" <AlCanHelp@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:CA71E627-BEC0-487E-8341-B69484B8ECFD@microsoft.com...

> Homegrown with MSI K8T Neo-V and AMD Athlon 64bit 754 socket 3400+; 1.5GB

> Ram, ATI Radeon X1600Pro AGP 512MB video, 4 HD's, 2 SATA and all 4

> connected

> to PCI adaptor card. The machine freezes up at random but always when a

> video file, such as an .wmv or internet feed news video is played.

> Downloaded .wmv files also cause it to freeze. I have to reboot as it

> will

> not accept any keyboard or mouse commands. Videos from online sources,

> DVD

> or one of my stored Pinnacle videos is played. I am using Windows Media

> Player. Plugins are installed for DVD play. I also have Nero 7 Ultra

> Edition and Microsoft Plus! Digital Media Edition installed. MP3, CDs and

> WMA files played through WMP do not cause a problem.

> Here is what I have been through both here and at a local shop:

> Replaced the motjherboard and processor with identical components in hopes

> of not having to reload all of my software. Tried 4 different MBs,

> identical

> to the original.

> Purchased new 160GB HD and did a clean install of XP SP2 OS using the

> shop's

> disc; my license.

> Purchased two new 1GB Ram, one of which was then declared bad by the shop

> (it does post up in another computer) DDR

> I have uninstalled/downloaded/installed various versions of Windows Media

> Player

> I have uninstalled/downloaded/installed various versions of Adobe Reader

> As I write this I put a video in the DVD player. It plays UNTIL I attempt

> to use the control for full screen either by double clicking on the image

> or

> using the pull down menu for view. Freezes up.

> Swapped out video cards

> Eliminated all hardware and built it back up with new drivers.

> Checked for viruses home and at the shop.

> At this moment I'm working in Corel Paint Shop Pro without any

> difficulties.

> I also have not had any problems playing FreeCell. Emails through

> Microsoft

> Outlook and online page loading have not been a problem. The tech said

> one

> stick of the new 1GB Sandisc ram failed to post but I have a 512 in there

> and

> it posts with the other 1GB, showing 1.5 GB. The tech said he swapped ram

> in

> the two slots with no post.

> What's left???

> thanks

>

September 8, 2007

Re: FREEZE! You're a genius if you can figure this one out!!!

Screech! You just flew over my head.

The PCI card came with the Seagate ST3200822A SATA. I do have 2 SATA and 2

IDE drives hooked directly to the card. This configuration has served me for

over a year.

Here's what happened: I was installed additional PC133 into a friend's

computer. SOMEHOW I inserted one stick of PC133 into my machine. Conclusion

was to replace the MB as the system was down. In so doing I inherited this

problem and have been trying for 3 months to get it solved.

I can print these suggestions out for a higher force to examine. I do have

some much younger (20's) associates who claim they can fix anything.

I CAN disconnect the two IDE drives and only use them when I want to backup

or access the files on there. I'll try that the next time it freezes up.

Anything I said that gives you more insight?

thanks!

a

"R. McCarty" wrote:

> Motherboard BIOS flashed to latest release ?, Using the latest Chipset

> driver package?

>

> Four disk drives, 2 SATA and 2 IDE ? Which ones are connected to a

> PCI controller card and what Vendor/Model PCI add-in card.

>

> Sounds to me like a possible IRQ mapping issue. I'd look and check

> that the system is using a APIC controller ( 23 IRQs ), MsInfo32.Exe

> to check IRQ map.

>

> I'd probably drop any traditional IDE/PATA devices and use SATA

> exclusively. It would also be a good idea to Chkdsk all your volumes.

> You would also want to verify that all drives are operating at their

> highest rated UDMA modes ( 5 or 6 ).

>

> "Al Can Help" <AlCanHelp@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:CA71E627-BEC0-487E-8341-B69484B8ECFD@microsoft.com...

> > Homegrown with MSI K8T Neo-V and AMD Athlon 64bit 754 socket 3400+; 1.5GB

> > Ram, ATI Radeon X1600Pro AGP 512MB video, 4 HD's, 2 SATA and all 4

> > connected

> > to PCI adaptor card. The machine freezes up at random but always when a

> > video file, such as an .wmv or internet feed news video is played.

> > Downloaded .wmv files also cause it to freeze. I have to reboot as it

> > will

> > not accept any keyboard or mouse commands. Videos from online sources,

> > DVD

> > or one of my stored Pinnacle videos is played. I am using Windows Media

> > Player. Plugins are installed for DVD play. I also have Nero 7 Ultra

> > Edition and Microsoft Plus! Digital Media Edition installed. MP3, CDs and

> > WMA files played through WMP do not cause a problem.

> > Here is what I have been through both here and at a local shop:

> > Replaced the motjherboard and processor with identical components in hopes

> > of not having to reload all of my software. Tried 4 different MBs,

> > identical

> > to the original.

> > Purchased new 160GB HD and did a clean install of XP SP2 OS using the

> > shop's

> > disc; my license.

> > Purchased two new 1GB Ram, one of which was then declared bad by the shop

> > (it does post up in another computer) DDR

> > I have uninstalled/downloaded/installed various versions of Windows Media

> > Player

> > I have uninstalled/downloaded/installed various versions of Adobe Reader

> > As I write this I put a video in the DVD player. It plays UNTIL I attempt

> > to use the control for full screen either by double clicking on the image

> > or

> > using the pull down menu for view. Freezes up.

> > Swapped out video cards

> > Eliminated all hardware and built it back up with new drivers.

> > Checked for viruses home and at the shop.

> > At this moment I'm working in Corel Paint Shop Pro without any

> > difficulties.

> > I also have not had any problems playing FreeCell. Emails through

> > Microsoft

> > Outlook and online page loading have not been a problem. The tech said

> > one

> > stick of the new 1GB Sandisc ram failed to post but I have a 512 in there

> > and

> > it posts with the other 1GB, showing 1.5 GB. The tech said he swapped ram

> > in

> > the two slots with no post.

> > What's left???

> > thanks

> >

>

September 8, 2007

Re: FREEZE! You're a genius if you can figure this one out!!!

I have not. Am I wrong in assuming that Computer St. Louis, having taken the

machine back in 3 times and did the fresh install would not have done this?

Another problem I was having were the USB ports. They simply would not post.

This happened with at least two of the motherboards I submitted to them. I

bought 5 off the internet (replacing the exact board so I wouldn't have to

reload) and they said 2 were bad. I'm not soooo sure of this. These people

should know what they're doing.

Any help am I?

a

"DL" wrote:

> And; you havent used msupdate for any drivers have you?

>

> "Al Can Help" <AlCanHelp@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:CA71E627-BEC0-487E-8341-B69484B8ECFD@microsoft.com...

> > Homegrown with MSI K8T Neo-V and AMD Athlon 64bit 754 socket 3400+; 1.5GB

> > Ram, ATI Radeon X1600Pro AGP 512MB video, 4 HD's, 2 SATA and all 4

> > connected

> > to PCI adaptor card. The machine freezes up at random but always when a

> > video file, such as an .wmv or internet feed news video is played.

> > Downloaded .wmv files also cause it to freeze. I have to reboot as it

> > will

> > not accept any keyboard or mouse commands. Videos from online sources,

> > DVD

> > or one of my stored Pinnacle videos is played. I am using Windows Media

> > Player. Plugins are installed for DVD play. I also have Nero 7 Ultra

> > Edition and Microsoft Plus! Digital Media Edition installed. MP3, CDs and

> > WMA files played through WMP do not cause a problem.

> > Here is what I have been through both here and at a local shop:

> > Replaced the motjherboard and processor with identical components in hopes

> > of not having to reload all of my software. Tried 4 different MBs,

> > identical

> > to the original.

> > Purchased new 160GB HD and did a clean install of XP SP2 OS using the

> > shop's

> > disc; my license.

> > Purchased two new 1GB Ram, one of which was then declared bad by the shop

> > (it does post up in another computer) DDR

> > I have uninstalled/downloaded/installed various versions of Windows Media

> > Player

> > I have uninstalled/downloaded/installed various versions of Adobe Reader

> > As I write this I put a video in the DVD player. It plays UNTIL I attempt

> > to use the control for full screen either by double clicking on the image

> > or

> > using the pull down menu for view. Freezes up.

> > Swapped out video cards

> > Eliminated all hardware and built it back up with new drivers.

> > Checked for viruses home and at the shop.

> > At this moment I'm working in Corel Paint Shop Pro without any

> > difficulties.

> > I also have not had any problems playing FreeCell. Emails through

> > Microsoft

> > Outlook and online page loading have not been a problem. The tech said

> > one

> > stick of the new 1GB Sandisc ram failed to post but I have a 512 in there

> > and

> > it posts with the other 1GB, showing 1.5 GB. The tech said he swapped ram

> > in

> > the two slots with no post.

> > What's left???

> > thanks

> >

>

September 8, 2007

Re: FREEZE! You're a genius if you can figure this one out!!!

I'm doubtful I can give you any exact information. Your description

includes too many variables/actions you've taken to help you sort it out.

To me, it seems like you've got a mix-&-match of various components

that don't match a "Technology Timeline" ( similar dates/technology

types ). Sometimes there are certain combinations of Hardware that

will just be a problem and a never ending headache to get resolved or

work together effectively.

"Al Can Help" <AlCanHelp@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:6297B165-BCDB-4B3E-8926-775A6CFF7138@microsoft.com...

> Screech! You just flew over my head.

> The PCI card came with the Seagate ST3200822A SATA. I do have 2 SATA and

> 2

> IDE drives hooked directly to the card. This configuration has served me

> for

> over a year.

> Here's what happened: I was installed additional PC133 into a friend's

> computer. SOMEHOW I inserted one stick of PC133 into my machine.

> Conclusion

> was to replace the MB as the system was down. In so doing I inherited

> this

> problem and have been trying for 3 months to get it solved.

> I can print these suggestions out for a higher force to examine. I do

> have

> some much younger (20's) associates who claim they can fix anything.

> I CAN disconnect the two IDE drives and only use them when I want to

> backup

> or access the files on there. I'll try that the next time it freezes up.

> Anything I said that gives you more insight?

> thanks!

> a

>

> "R. McCarty" wrote:

>

>> Motherboard BIOS flashed to latest release ?, Using the latest Chipset

>> driver package?

>>

>> Four disk drives, 2 SATA and 2 IDE ? Which ones are connected to a

>> PCI controller card and what Vendor/Model PCI add-in card.

>>

>> Sounds to me like a possible IRQ mapping issue. I'd look and check

>> that the system is using a APIC controller ( 23 IRQs ), MsInfo32.Exe

>> to check IRQ map.

>>

>> I'd probably drop any traditional IDE/PATA devices and use SATA

>> exclusively. It would also be a good idea to Chkdsk all your volumes.

>> You would also want to verify that all drives are operating at their

>> highest rated UDMA modes ( 5 or 6 ).

>>

>> "Al Can Help" <AlCanHelp@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:CA71E627-BEC0-487E-8341-B69484B8ECFD@microsoft.com...

>> > Homegrown with MSI K8T Neo-V and AMD Athlon 64bit 754 socket 3400+;

>> > 1.5GB

>> > Ram, ATI Radeon X1600Pro AGP 512MB video, 4 HD's, 2 SATA and all 4

>> > connected

>> > to PCI adaptor card. The machine freezes up at random but always when

>> > a

>> > video file, such as an .wmv or internet feed news video is played.

>> > Downloaded .wmv files also cause it to freeze. I have to reboot as it

>> > will

>> > not accept any keyboard or mouse commands. Videos from online sources,

>> > DVD

>> > or one of my stored Pinnacle videos is played. I am using Windows

>> > Media

>> > Player. Plugins are installed for DVD play. I also have Nero 7 Ultra

>> > Edition and Microsoft Plus! Digital Media Edition installed. MP3, CDs

>> > and

>> > WMA files played through WMP do not cause a problem.

>> > Here is what I have been through both here and at a local shop:

>> > Replaced the motjherboard and processor with identical components in

>> > hopes

>> > of not having to reload all of my software. Tried 4 different MBs,

>> > identical

>> > to the original.

>> > Purchased new 160GB HD and did a clean install of XP SP2 OS using the

>> > shop's

>> > disc; my license.

>> > Purchased two new 1GB Ram, one of which was then declared bad by the

>> > shop

>> > (it does post up in another computer) DDR

>> > I have uninstalled/downloaded/installed various versions of Windows

>> > Media

>> > Player

>> > I have uninstalled/downloaded/installed various versions of Adobe

>> > Reader

>> > As I write this I put a video in the DVD player. It plays UNTIL I

>> > attempt

>> > to use the control for full screen either by double clicking on the

>> > image

>> > or

>> > using the pull down menu for view. Freezes up.

>> > Swapped out video cards

>> > Eliminated all hardware and built it back up with new drivers.

>> > Checked for viruses home and at the shop.

>> > At this moment I'm working in Corel Paint Shop Pro without any

>> > difficulties.

>> > I also have not had any problems playing FreeCell. Emails through

>> > Microsoft

>> > Outlook and online page loading have not been a problem. The tech

>> > said

>> > one

>> > stick of the new 1GB Sandisc ram failed to post but I have a 512 in

>> > there

>> > and

>> > it posts with the other 1GB, showing 1.5 GB. The tech said he swapped

>> > ram

>> > in

>> > the two slots with no post.

>> > What's left???

>> > thanks

>> >

>>

September 8, 2007

Re: FREEZE! You're a genius if you can figure this one out!!!

If the system had not been working for over a year until I pulled a zinger I

could start from there.

This is very comlex, as anything with various drives, etc. can be.

I'll keep trying!

thanks again,

a

"R. McCarty" wrote:

> I'm doubtful I can give you any exact information. Your description

> includes too many variables/actions you've taken to help you sort it out.

>

> To me, it seems like you've got a mix-&-match of various components

> that don't match a "Technology Timeline" ( similar dates/technology

> types ). Sometimes there are certain combinations of Hardware that

> will just be a problem and a never ending headache to get resolved or

> work together effectively.

>

> "Al Can Help" <AlCanHelp@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:6297B165-BCDB-4B3E-8926-775A6CFF7138@microsoft.com...

> > Screech! You just flew over my head.

> > The PCI card came with the Seagate ST3200822A SATA. I do have 2 SATA and

> > 2

> > IDE drives hooked directly to the card. This configuration has served me

> > for

> > over a year.

> > Here's what happened: I was installed additional PC133 into a friend's

> > computer. SOMEHOW I inserted one stick of PC133 into my machine.

> > Conclusion

> > was to replace the MB as the system was down. In so doing I inherited

> > this

> > problem and have been trying for 3 months to get it solved.

> > I can print these suggestions out for a higher force to examine. I do

> > have

> > some much younger (20's) associates who claim they can fix anything.

> > I CAN disconnect the two IDE drives and only use them when I want to

> > backup

> > or access the files on there. I'll try that the next time it freezes up.

> > Anything I said that gives you more insight?

> > thanks!

> > a

> >

> > "R. McCarty" wrote:

> >

> >> Motherboard BIOS flashed to latest release ?, Using the latest Chipset

> >> driver package?

> >>

> >> Four disk drives, 2 SATA and 2 IDE ? Which ones are connected to a

> >> PCI controller card and what Vendor/Model PCI add-in card.

> >>

> >> Sounds to me like a possible IRQ mapping issue. I'd look and check

> >> that the system is using a APIC controller ( 23 IRQs ), MsInfo32.Exe

> >> to check IRQ map.

> >>

> >> I'd probably drop any traditional IDE/PATA devices and use SATA

> >> exclusively. It would also be a good idea to Chkdsk all your volumes.

> >> You would also want to verify that all drives are operating at their

> >> highest rated UDMA modes ( 5 or 6 ).

> >>

> >> "Al Can Help" <AlCanHelp@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> >> news:CA71E627-BEC0-487E-8341-B69484B8ECFD@microsoft.com...

> >> > Homegrown with MSI K8T Neo-V and AMD Athlon 64bit 754 socket 3400+;

> >> > 1.5GB

> >> > Ram, ATI Radeon X1600Pro AGP 512MB video, 4 HD's, 2 SATA and all 4

> >> > connected

> >> > to PCI adaptor card. The machine freezes up at random but always when

> >> > a

> >> > video file, such as an .wmv or internet feed news video is played.

> >> > Downloaded .wmv files also cause it to freeze. I have to reboot as it

> >> > will

> >> > not accept any keyboard or mouse commands. Videos from online sources,

> >> > DVD

> >> > or one of my stored Pinnacle videos is played. I am using Windows

> >> > Media

> >> > Player. Plugins are installed for DVD play. I also have Nero 7 Ultra

> >> > Edition and Microsoft Plus! Digital Media Edition installed. MP3, CDs

> >> > and

> >> > WMA files played through WMP do not cause a problem.

> >> > Here is what I have been through both here and at a local shop:

> >> > Replaced the motjherboard and processor with identical components in

> >> > hopes

> >> > of not having to reload all of my software. Tried 4 different MBs,

> >> > identical

> >> > to the original.

> >> > Purchased new 160GB HD and did a clean install of XP SP2 OS using the

> >> > shop's

> >> > disc; my license.

> >> > Purchased two new 1GB Ram, one of which was then declared bad by the

> >> > shop

> >> > (it does post up in another computer) DDR

> >> > I have uninstalled/downloaded/installed various versions of Windows

> >> > Media

> >> > Player

> >> > I have uninstalled/downloaded/installed various versions of Adobe

> >> > Reader

> >> > As I write this I put a video in the DVD player. It plays UNTIL I

> >> > attempt

> >> > to use the control for full screen either by double clicking on the

> >> > image

> >> > or

> >> > using the pull down menu for view. Freezes up.

> >> > Swapped out video cards

> >> > Eliminated all hardware and built it back up with new drivers.

> >> > Checked for viruses home and at the shop.

> >> > At this moment I'm working in Corel Paint Shop Pro without any

> >> > difficulties.

> >> > I also have not had any problems playing FreeCell. Emails through

> >> > Microsoft

> >> > Outlook and online page loading have not been a problem. The tech

> >> > said

> >> > one

> >> > stick of the new 1GB Sandisc ram failed to post but I have a 512 in

> >> > there

> >> > and

> >> > it posts with the other 1GB, showing 1.5 GB. The tech said he swapped

> >> > ram

> >> > in

> >> > the two slots with no post.

> >> > What's left???

> >> > thanks

> >> >

> >>

>

September 8, 2007

Re: FREEZE! You're a genius if you can figure this one out!!!

It sounds like you've swapped out most if not all hardware except the power

supply. It could be the problem?

--

Harry Ohrn MS MVP [shell\User]

http://www.webtree.ca/windowsxp

"Al Can Help" <AlCanHelp@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:CA71E627-BEC0-487E-8341-B69484B8ECFD@microsoft.com...

> Homegrown with MSI K8T Neo-V and AMD Athlon 64bit 754 socket 3400+; 1.5GB

> Ram, ATI Radeon X1600Pro AGP 512MB video, 4 HD's, 2 SATA and all 4

> connected

> to PCI adaptor card. The machine freezes up at random but always when a

> video file, such as an .wmv or internet feed news video is played.

> Downloaded .wmv files also cause it to freeze. I have to reboot as it

> will

> not accept any keyboard or mouse commands. Videos from online sources,

> DVD

> or one of my stored Pinnacle videos is played. I am using Windows Media

> Player. Plugins are installed for DVD play. I also have Nero 7 Ultra

> Edition and Microsoft Plus! Digital Media Edition installed. MP3, CDs and

> WMA files played through WMP do not cause a problem.

> Here is what I have been through both here and at a local shop:

> Replaced the motjherboard and processor with identical components in hopes

> of not having to reload all of my software. Tried 4 different MBs,

> identical

> to the original.

> Purchased new 160GB HD and did a clean install of XP SP2 OS using the

> shop's

> disc; my license.

> Purchased two new 1GB Ram, one of which was then declared bad by the shop

> (it does post up in another computer) DDR

> I have uninstalled/downloaded/installed various versions of Windows Media

> Player

> I have uninstalled/downloaded/installed various versions of Adobe Reader

> As I write this I put a video in the DVD player. It plays UNTIL I attempt

> to use the control for full screen either by double clicking on the image

> or

> using the pull down menu for view. Freezes up.

> Swapped out video cards

> Eliminated all hardware and built it back up with new drivers.

> Checked for viruses home and at the shop.

> At this moment I'm working in Corel Paint Shop Pro without any

> difficulties.

> I also have not had any problems playing FreeCell. Emails through

> Microsoft

> Outlook and online page loading have not been a problem. The tech said

> one

> stick of the new 1GB Sandisc ram failed to post but I have a 512 in there

> and

> it posts with the other 1GB, showing 1.5 GB. The tech said he swapped ram

> in

> the two slots with no post.

> What's left???

> thanks

>

September 8, 2007

Re: FREEZE! You're a genius if you can figure this one out!!!

Power supplies have created many an unsuspecting problem haven't they?

I'm in the process of CD at the moment but I do have a spare and there is no

reason not to try it!

thanks!

a

"Harry Ohrn" wrote:

> It sounds like you've swapped out most if not all hardware except the power

> supply. It could be the problem?

>

> --

>

> Harry Ohrn MS MVP [shell\User]

> http://www.webtree.ca/windowsxp

>

> "Al Can Help" <AlCanHelp@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:CA71E627-BEC0-487E-8341-B69484B8ECFD@microsoft.com...

> > Homegrown with MSI K8T Neo-V and AMD Athlon 64bit 754 socket 3400+; 1.5GB

> > Ram, ATI Radeon X1600Pro AGP 512MB video, 4 HD's, 2 SATA and all 4

> > connected

> > to PCI adaptor card. The machine freezes up at random but always when a

> > video file, such as an .wmv or internet feed news video is played.

> > Downloaded .wmv files also cause it to freeze. I have to reboot as it

> > will

> > not accept any keyboard or mouse commands. Videos from online sources,

> > DVD

> > or one of my stored Pinnacle videos is played. I am using Windows Media

> > Player. Plugins are installed for DVD play. I also have Nero 7 Ultra

> > Edition and Microsoft Plus! Digital Media Edition installed. MP3, CDs and

> > WMA files played through WMP do not cause a problem.

> > Here is what I have been through both here and at a local shop:

> > Replaced the motjherboard and processor with identical components in hopes

> > of not having to reload all of my software. Tried 4 different MBs,

> > identical

> > to the original.

> > Purchased new 160GB HD and did a clean install of XP SP2 OS using the

> > shop's

> > disc; my license.

> > Purchased two new 1GB Ram, one of which was then declared bad by the shop

> > (it does post up in another computer) DDR

> > I have uninstalled/downloaded/installed various versions of Windows Media

> > Player

> > I have uninstalled/downloaded/installed various versions of Adobe Reader

> > As I write this I put a video in the DVD player. It plays UNTIL I attempt

> > to use the control for full screen either by double clicking on the image

> > or

> > using the pull down menu for view. Freezes up.

> > Swapped out video cards

> > Eliminated all hardware and built it back up with new drivers.

> > Checked for viruses home and at the shop.

> > At this moment I'm working in Corel Paint Shop Pro without any

> > difficulties.

> > I also have not had any problems playing FreeCell. Emails through

> > Microsoft

> > Outlook and online page loading have not been a problem. The tech said

> > one

> > stick of the new 1GB Sandisc ram failed to post but I have a 512 in there

> > and

> > it posts with the other 1GB, showing 1.5 GB. The tech said he swapped ram

> > in

> > the two slots with no post.

> > What's left???

> > thanks

> >

>

September 8, 2007

Re: FREEZE! You're a genius if you can figure this one out!!!

Unfortunately unless you 'know' your repairshop you can never know whether

they relied on default drivers or used the correct drivers supplied by your

mobo, and other hw manufacturers

..

"Al Can Help" <AlCanHelp@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:65B67063-7230-40B5-83A7-480EFFD1BB5E@microsoft.com...

>I have not. Am I wrong in assuming that Computer St. Louis, having taken

>the

> machine back in 3 times and did the fresh install would not have done

> this?

> Another problem I was having were the USB ports. They simply would not

> post.

> This happened with at least two of the motherboards I submitted to them.

> I

> bought 5 off the internet (replacing the exact board so I wouldn't have to

> reload) and they said 2 were bad. I'm not soooo sure of this. These

> people

> should know what they're doing.

> Any help am I?

> a

>

> "DL" wrote:

>

>> And; you havent used msupdate for any drivers have you?

>>

>> "Al Can Help" <AlCanHelp@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:CA71E627-BEC0-487E-8341-B69484B8ECFD@microsoft.com...

>> > Homegrown with MSI K8T Neo-V and AMD Athlon 64bit 754 socket 3400+;

>> > 1.5GB

>> > Ram, ATI Radeon X1600Pro AGP 512MB video, 4 HD's, 2 SATA and all 4

>> > connected

>> > to PCI adaptor card. The machine freezes up at random but always when

>> > a

>> > video file, such as an .wmv or internet feed news video is played.

>> > Downloaded .wmv files also cause it to freeze. I have to reboot as it

>> > will

>> > not accept any keyboard or mouse commands. Videos from online sources,

>> > DVD

>> > or one of my stored Pinnacle videos is played. I am using Windows

>> > Media

>> > Player. Plugins are installed for DVD play. I also have Nero 7 Ultra

>> > Edition and Microsoft Plus! Digital Media Edition installed. MP3, CDs

>> > and

>> > WMA files played through WMP do not cause a problem.

>> > Here is what I have been through both here and at a local shop:

>> > Replaced the motjherboard and processor with identical components in

>> > hopes

>> > of not having to reload all of my software. Tried 4 different MBs,

>> > identical

>> > to the original.

>> > Purchased new 160GB HD and did a clean install of XP SP2 OS using the

>> > shop's

>> > disc; my license.

>> > Purchased two new 1GB Ram, one of which was then declared bad by the

>> > shop

>> > (it does post up in another computer) DDR

>> > I have uninstalled/downloaded/installed various versions of Windows

>> > Media

>> > Player

>> > I have uninstalled/downloaded/installed various versions of Adobe

>> > Reader

>> > As I write this I put a video in the DVD player. It plays UNTIL I

>> > attempt

>> > to use the control for full screen either by double clicking on the

>> > image

>> > or

>> > using the pull down menu for view. Freezes up.

>> > Swapped out video cards

>> > Eliminated all hardware and built it back up with new drivers.

>> > Checked for viruses home and at the shop.

>> > At this moment I'm working in Corel Paint Shop Pro without any

>> > difficulties.

>> > I also have not had any problems playing FreeCell. Emails through

>> > Microsoft

>> > Outlook and online page loading have not been a problem. The tech

>> > said

>> > one

>> > stick of the new 1GB Sandisc ram failed to post but I have a 512 in

>> > there

>> > and

>> > it posts with the other 1GB, showing 1.5 GB. The tech said he swapped

>> > ram

>> > in

>> > the two slots with no post.

>> > What's left???

>> > thanks

>> >

>>

September 8, 2007

Re: FREEZE! You're a genius if you can figure this one out!!!

Which drivers would you start with?

I did try another power supply....5 secs of video.

My next trick is to disconnect the two IDE drives. I just cannot believe

this is happening after all of the replacement/reloading!

a

"DL" wrote:

> Unfortunately unless you 'know' your repairshop you can never know whether

> they relied on default drivers or used the correct drivers supplied by your

> mobo, and other hw manufacturers

> ..

> "Al Can Help" <AlCanHelp@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:65B67063-7230-40B5-83A7-480EFFD1BB5E@microsoft.com...

> >I have not. Am I wrong in assuming that Computer St. Louis, having taken

> >the

> > machine back in 3 times and did the fresh install would not have done

> > this?

> > Another problem I was having were the USB ports. They simply would not

> > post.

> > This happened with at least two of the motherboards I submitted to them.

> > I

> > bought 5 off the internet (replacing the exact board so I wouldn't have to

> > reload) and they said 2 were bad. I'm not soooo sure of this. These

> > people

> > should know what they're doing.

> > Any help am I?

> > a

> >

> > "DL" wrote:

> >

> >> And; you havent used msupdate for any drivers have you?

> >>

> >> "Al Can Help" <AlCanHelp@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> >> news:CA71E627-BEC0-487E-8341-B69484B8ECFD@microsoft.com...

> >> > Homegrown with MSI K8T Neo-V and AMD Athlon 64bit 754 socket 3400+;

> >> > 1.5GB

> >> > Ram, ATI Radeon X1600Pro AGP 512MB video, 4 HD's, 2 SATA and all 4

> >> > connected

> >> > to PCI adaptor card. The machine freezes up at random but always when

> >> > a

> >> > video file, such as an .wmv or internet feed news video is played.

> >> > Downloaded .wmv files also cause it to freeze. I have to reboot as it

> >> > will

> >> > not accept any keyboard or mouse commands. Videos from online sources,

> >> > DVD

> >> > or one of my stored Pinnacle videos is played. I am using Windows

> >> > Media

> >> > Player. Plugins are installed for DVD play. I also have Nero 7 Ultra

> >> > Edition and Microsoft Plus! Digital Media Edition installed. MP3, CDs

> >> > and

> >> > WMA files played through WMP do not cause a problem.

> >> > Here is what I have been through both here and at a local shop:

> >> > Replaced the motjherboard and processor with identical components in

> >> > hopes

> >> > of not having to reload all of my software. Tried 4 different MBs,

> >> > identical

> >> > to the original.

> >> > Purchased new 160GB HD and did a clean install of XP SP2 OS using the

> >> > shop's

> >> > disc; my license.

> >> > Purchased two new 1GB Ram, one of which was then declared bad by the

> >> > shop

> >> > (it does post up in another computer) DDR

> >> > I have uninstalled/downloaded/installed various versions of Windows

> >> > Media

> >> > Player

> >> > I have uninstalled/downloaded/installed various versions of Adobe

> >> > Reader

> >> > As I write this I put a video in the DVD player. It plays UNTIL I

> >> > attempt

> >> > to use the control for full screen either by double clicking on the

> >> > image

> >> > or

> >> > using the pull down menu for view. Freezes up.

> >> > Swapped out video cards

> >> > Eliminated all hardware and built it back up with new drivers.

> >> > Checked for viruses home and at the shop.

> >> > At this moment I'm working in Corel Paint Shop Pro without any

> >> > difficulties.

> >> > I also have not had any problems playing FreeCell. Emails through

> >> > Microsoft

> >> > Outlook and online page loading have not been a problem. The tech

> >> > said

> >> > one

> >> > stick of the new 1GB Sandisc ram failed to post but I have a 512 in

> >> > there

> >> > and

> >> > it posts with the other 1GB, showing 1.5 GB. The tech said he swapped

> >> > ram

> >> > in

> >> > the two slots with no post.

> >> > What's left???

> >> > thanks

> >> >

> >>

>

September 8, 2007

Re: FREEZE! You're a genius if you can figure this one out!!!

The chipset & other mobo drivers from MSI

Video drivers from ATI

PS I assume Event viewer gave no clues

"Al Can Help" <AlCanHelp@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:5875B8AD-214E-49E9-9C16-F1B9C197A62D@microsoft.com...

> Which drivers would you start with?

> I did try another power supply....5 secs of video.

> My next trick is to disconnect the two IDE drives. I just cannot believe

> this is happening after all of the replacement/reloading!

> a

>

> "DL" wrote:

>

>> Unfortunately unless you 'know' your repairshop you can never know

>> whether

>> they relied on default drivers or used the correct drivers supplied by

>> your

>> mobo, and other hw manufacturers

>> ..

>> "Al Can Help" <AlCanHelp@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:65B67063-7230-40B5-83A7-480EFFD1BB5E@microsoft.com...

>> >I have not. Am I wrong in assuming that Computer St. Louis, having

>> >taken

>> >the

>> > machine back in 3 times and did the fresh install would not have done

>> > this?

>> > Another problem I was having were the USB ports. They simply would not

>> > post.

>> > This happened with at least two of the motherboards I submitted to

>> > them.

>> > I

>> > bought 5 off the internet (replacing the exact board so I wouldn't have

>> > to

>> > reload) and they said 2 were bad. I'm not soooo sure of this. These

>> > people

>> > should know what they're doing.

>> > Any help am I?

>> > a

>> >

>> > "DL" wrote:

>> >

>> >> And; you havent used msupdate for any drivers have you?

>> >>

>> >> "Al Can Help" <AlCanHelp@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> >> news:CA71E627-BEC0-487E-8341-B69484B8ECFD@microsoft.com...

>> >> > Homegrown with MSI K8T Neo-V and AMD Athlon 64bit 754 socket 3400+;

>> >> > 1.5GB

>> >> > Ram, ATI Radeon X1600Pro AGP 512MB video, 4 HD's, 2 SATA and all 4

>> >> > connected

>> >> > to PCI adaptor card. The machine freezes up at random but always

>> >> > when

>> >> > a

>> >> > video file, such as an .wmv or internet feed news video is played.

>> >> > Downloaded .wmv files also cause it to freeze. I have to reboot as

>> >> > it

>> >> > will

>> >> > not accept any keyboard or mouse commands. Videos from online

>> >> > sources,

>> >> > DVD

>> >> > or one of my stored Pinnacle videos is played. I am using Windows

>> >> > Media

>> >> > Player. Plugins are installed for DVD play. I also have Nero 7

>> >> > Ultra

>> >> > Edition and Microsoft Plus! Digital Media Edition installed. MP3,

>> >> > CDs

>> >> > and

>> >> > WMA files played through WMP do not cause a problem.

>> >> > Here is what I have been through both here and at a local shop:

>> >> > Replaced the motjherboard and processor with identical components in

>> >> > hopes

>> >> > of not having to reload all of my software. Tried 4 different MBs,

>> >> > identical

>> >> > to the original.

>> >> > Purchased new 160GB HD and did a clean install of XP SP2 OS using

>> >> > the

>> >> > shop's

>> >> > disc; my license.

>> >> > Purchased two new 1GB Ram, one of which was then declared bad by the

>> >> > shop

>> >> > (it does post up in another computer) DDR

>> >> > I have uninstalled/downloaded/installed various versions of Windows

>> >> > Media

>> >> > Player

>> >> > I have uninstalled/downloaded/installed various versions of Adobe

>> >> > Reader

>> >> > As I write this I put a video in the DVD player. It plays UNTIL I

>> >> > attempt

>> >> > to use the control for full screen either by double clicking on the

>> >> > image

>> >> > or

>> >> > using the pull down menu for view. Freezes up.

>> >> > Swapped out video cards

>> >> > Eliminated all hardware and built it back up with new drivers.

>> >> > Checked for viruses home and at the shop.

>> >> > At this moment I'm working in Corel Paint Shop Pro without any

>> >> > difficulties.

>> >> > I also have not had any problems playing FreeCell. Emails through

>> >> > Microsoft

>> >> > Outlook and online page loading have not been a problem. The tech

>> >> > said

>> >> > one

>> >> > stick of the new 1GB Sandisc ram failed to post but I have a 512 in

>> >> > there

>> >> > and

>> >> > it posts with the other 1GB, showing 1.5 GB. The tech said he

>> >> > swapped

>> >> > ram

>> >> > in

>> >> > the two slots with no post.

>> >> > What's left???

>> >> > thanks

>> >> >

>> >>

>>

September 8, 2007