Device cal or user cal

[Guest Ford]

I have a Windows 2003 R2 Server with accounting software that i want to be

able to access from any of our 20 XP client computers from four differnet

stores via the web to the server. Which do i need device cals or user cals?

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Ford

[Guest Ratnesh Yadav [MSFT]]

Re: Device cal or user cal

 

If you have stores with fixed machine and different users access accounting

software from those machines then Per Device will be good idea.

And if you have mobile users who access accounting software from different

machines then Per User License will be good.

 

If you have more users than client machine then user Per Device, and if you

have more client machines than users, use Per User.

 

I am not sure what you mean by saying “different stores via the web to the

server”

 

Ratnesh [MSFT]

 

"Ford" <Ford@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

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>I have a Windows 2003 R2 Server with accounting software that i want to be

> able to access from any of our 20 XP client computers from four differnet

> stores via the web to the server. Which do i need device cals or user

> cals?

> --

> Ford

[Guest Hank Arnold (MVP)]

Re: Device cal or user cal

 

Ford wrote:

> I have a Windows 2003 R2 Server with accounting software that i want to be

> able to access from any of our 20 XP client computers from four differnet

> stores via the web to the server. Which do i need device cals or user cals?

 

If you have more computers than users, get per device licenses. More

users than computers? Get per user. Make sure before you decide. It

isn't easy th change. IIRC, you *might* get one chance to change the

type, if it;s early enough...

 

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Regards,

Hank Arnold

Microsoft MVP

Windows Server - Directory Services

[Guest Ford]

Re: Device cal or user cal

 

I have 4 different supermarket locations that need access to the terminal

server. Typically it will be the same user logging into the terminal server

from the same computer at each location. However it could be a different

user from the same machine. So i guess device cal is correct.

 

Is it is safe to assume that if you use the same user login ID that no

matter how many different machines you log in from it is only counted as one

user? Example

Administator and PW is the same no matter whcih machine you use. WOuld this

be one user cal?

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Ford

 

 

"Ratnesh Yadav [MSFT]" wrote:

> If you have stores with fixed machine and different users access accounting

> software from those machines then Per Device will be good idea.

> And if you have mobile users who access accounting software from different

> machines then Per User License will be good.

>

> If you have more users than client machine then user Per Device, and if you

> have more client machines than users, use Per User.

>

> I am not sure what you mean by saying “different stores via the web to the

> server”

>

> Ratnesh [MSFT]

>

> "Ford" <Ford@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:A9753B13-AE4C-4091-816A-4BA99B26D175@microsoft.com...

> >I have a Windows 2003 R2 Server with accounting software that i want to be

> > able to access from any of our 20 XP client computers from four differnet

> > stores via the web to the server. Which do i need device cals or user

> > cals?

> > --

> > Ford

>

>

[Guest Vera Noest [MVP]]

Re: Device cal or user cal

 

Comments inline

 

=?Utf-8?B?Rm9yZA==?= <Ford@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote on 10

sep 2007:

> I have 4 different supermarket locations that need access to the

> terminal server. Typically it will be the same user logging

> into the terminal server from the same computer at each

> location. However it could be a different user from the same

> machine. So i guess device cal is correct.

 

Yes.

> Is it is safe to assume that if you use the same user login ID

> that no matter how many different machines you log in from it is

> only counted as one user? Example

> Administator and PW is the same no matter whcih machine you use.

> WOuld this be one user cal?

 

The above would be true if you choose Per User TS CALs. But you

can't have Per User and Per Device on the same TS simultaneously,

so it is not correct if you choose Per Device TS CALs.

 

If you need to logon as Administrator, you can connect to the

console session of the server. A console session never requires a

TS CAL. Use "mstsc /console" (without the quotes).

 

_________________________________________________________

Vera Noest

MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net

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[Guest Gregg Hill]

Re: Device cal or user cal

 

May I add a clarification? If I understand TS licensing correctly, then if

you log in using one user name from multiple machines, AND it is the same

PERSON logging in, then yes, a single user CAL would cover that one person

logging in from multiple computers. If you are asking "Can I use one user

name and have ten different PEOPLE using one name," then you would need ten

user CALs.

 

Vera, is that correct?

 

--

Gregg Hill

 

DISCLAIMER WARNING: the information contained in any reply I make is merely

an OPINION, one that I hope you will consider when you make a choice as to

what you will do on your systems or network.

 

**No recommendation is to be implied by my OPINION.**

 

There, that should cover it!

 

 

 

 

 

 

"Vera Noest [MVP]" <Vera.Noest@remove-this.hem.utfors.se> wrote in message

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> Comments inline

>

> =?Utf-8?B?Rm9yZA==?= <Ford@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote on 10

> sep 2007:

>

>> I have 4 different supermarket locations that need access to the

>> terminal server. Typically it will be the same user logging

>> into the terminal server from the same computer at each

>> location. However it could be a different user from the same

>> machine. So i guess device cal is correct.

>

> Yes.

>

>> Is it is safe to assume that if you use the same user login ID

>> that no matter how many different machines you log in from it is

>> only counted as one user? Example

>> Administator and PW is the same no matter whcih machine you use.

>> WOuld this be one user cal?

>

> The above would be true if you choose Per User TS CALs. But you

> can't have Per User and Per Device on the same TS simultaneously,

> so it is not correct if you choose Per Device TS CALs.

>

> If you need to logon as Administrator, you can connect to the

> console session of the server. A console session never requires a

> TS CAL. Use "mstsc /console" (without the quotes).

>

> _________________________________________________________

> Vera Noest

> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net

> *----------- Please reply in newsgroup -------------*

[Guest Ratnesh Yadav [MSFT]]

Re: Device cal or user cal

 

> "Can I use one user name and have ten different PEOPLE using one name,"

> then you would need ten user CALs."

 

Yes, in above case you will be required to buy 10 Per User CALs.

 

Ratnesh

 

"Gregg Hill" <bogus@nowhere.com> wrote in message

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> May I add a clarification? If I understand TS licensing correctly, then if

> you log in using one user name from multiple machines, AND it is the same

> PERSON logging in, then yes, a single user CAL would cover that one person

> logging in from multiple computers. If you are asking "Can I use one user

> name and have ten different PEOPLE using one name," then you would need

> ten user CALs.

>

> Vera, is that correct?

>

> --

> Gregg Hill

>

> DISCLAIMER WARNING: the information contained in any reply I make is

> merely an OPINION, one that I hope you will consider when you make a

> choice as to what you will do on your systems or network.

>

> **No recommendation is to be implied by my OPINION.**

>

> There, that should cover it!

>

>

>

>

>

>

> "Vera Noest [MVP]" <Vera.Noest@remove-this.hem.utfors.se> wrote in message

> news:Xns99A79197E2019veranoesthemutforsse@207.46.248.16...

>> Comments inline

>>

>> =?Utf-8?B?Rm9yZA==?= <Ford@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote on 10

>> sep 2007:

>>

>>> I have 4 different supermarket locations that need access to the

>>> terminal server. Typically it will be the same user logging

>>> into the terminal server from the same computer at each

>>> location. However it could be a different user from the same

>>> machine. So i guess device cal is correct.

>>

>> Yes.

>>

>>> Is it is safe to assume that if you use the same user login ID

>>> that no matter how many different machines you log in from it is

>>> only counted as one user? Example

>>> Administator and PW is the same no matter whcih machine you use.

>>> WOuld this be one user cal?

>>

>> The above would be true if you choose Per User TS CALs. But you

>> can't have Per User and Per Device on the same TS simultaneously,

>> so it is not correct if you choose Per Device TS CALs.

>>

>> If you need to logon as Administrator, you can connect to the

>> console session of the server. A console session never requires a

>> TS CAL. Use "mstsc /console" (without the quotes).

>>

>> _________________________________________________________

>> Vera Noest

>> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

>> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net

>> *----------- Please reply in newsgroup -------------*

>

>

[Guest Vera Noest [MVP]]

Re: Device cal or user cal

 

Yes, "User" in Per User CALs should be interpreted as "person", not

as "user account".

_________________________________________________________

Vera Noest

MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net

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"Gregg Hill" <bogus@nowhere.com> wrote on 11 sep 2007:

> May I add a clarification? If I understand TS licensing

> correctly, then if you log in using one user name from multiple

> machines, AND it is the same PERSON logging in, then yes, a

> single user CAL would cover that one person logging in from

> multiple computers. If you are asking "Can I use one user name

> and have ten different PEOPLE using one name," then you would

> need ten user CALs.

>

> Vera, is that correct?

[Guest Gregg Hill]

Re: Device cal or user cal

 

Cool. I just wanted to make sure the OP understood that. I thought I had it

right!

 

--

Gregg Hill

 

DISCLAIMER WARNING: the information contained in any reply I make is merely

an OPINION, one that I hope you will consider when you make a choice as to

what you will do on your systems or network.

 

**No recommendation is to be implied by my OPINION.**

 

There, that should cover it!

 

 

 

 

 

 

"Vera Noest [MVP]" <Vera.Noest@remove-this.hem.utfors.se> wrote in message

news:Xns99A8832BEA5F9veranoesthemutforsse@207.46.248.16...

> Yes, "User" in Per User CALs should be interpreted as "person", not

> as "user account".

> _________________________________________________________

> Vera Noest

> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net

> *----------- Please reply in newsgroup -------------*

>

> "Gregg Hill" <bogus@nowhere.com> wrote on 11 sep 2007:

>

>> May I add a clarification? If I understand TS licensing

>> correctly, then if you log in using one user name from multiple

>> machines, AND it is the same PERSON logging in, then yes, a

>> single user CAL would cover that one person logging in from

>> multiple computers. If you are asking "Can I use one user name

>> and have ten different PEOPLE using one name," then you would

>> need ten user CALs.

>>

>> Vera, is that correct?