Guest - Bobb - Posted September 10, 2007 Posted September 10, 2007 I saw reference to this in another newgroup: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/category/category_slc.asp?Sort=3&Nav=|c:672|&Recs=30 If OEM version, how would a buyer know WHICH OEM hardware it goes with ??? ( Aren't they usuall for certain model hardware - like Dell Dimension 2100 ) It seems to be a full version of XP SP2. I thought an OEM version was restricted to a particular model. So would a " Full OEM version" work on ANY model PC ? I never knew an OEM CD to install on " any hardware". So the only difference between this and non-OEM version is that this will erase/format HDD prior to install ? ( see note there) " Note: This version of Microsoft Windows XP cannot be upgraded from earlier versions of Windows. If your operating system is Windows 2000/ME/98 you must backup your data before installation. This OEM version will only allow a clean Install, and your existing data will be deleted. " If only difference is that, why would anyone have bought this OEM version at retail ( since non-OEM version gives option to install over old software and dual-boot etc).
Guest Gordon Posted September 10, 2007 Posted September 10, 2007 Re: buy OEM version - I thought limited to mfr model ? "- Bobb -" <bobb@noemail.123> wrote in message news:usaYYc78HHA.1900@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >I saw reference to this in another newgroup: > http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/category/category_slc.asp?Sort=3&Nav=|c:672|&Recs=30 > > If OEM version, how would a buyer know WHICH OEM hardware it goes with ??? > ( Aren't they usuall for certain model hardware - like Dell Dimension > 2100 ) > It seems to be a full version of XP SP2. I thought an OEM version was > restricted to a particular model. So would a " Full OEM version" work on > ANY model PC ? I never knew an OEM CD to install on " any hardware". > > So the only difference between this and non-OEM version is that this will > erase/format HDD prior to install ? ( see note there) > " Note: This version of Microsoft Windows XP cannot be upgraded from > earlier versions of Windows. If your operating system is Windows > 2000/ME/98 you must backup your data before installation. This OEM version > will only allow a clean Install, and your existing data will be deleted. " > > If only difference is that, why would anyone have bought this OEM version > at retail ( since non-OEM version gives option to install over old > software and dual-boot etc). > There are two types of OEM - generic and BIOS-locked. the BIOS-locked version will only install on a certain machine, the generic version will install on ANY machine.
Guest Daave Posted September 10, 2007 Posted September 10, 2007 Re: buy OEM version - I thought limited to mfr model ? "Gordon" <gbplinux@gmail.com.invalid> wrote in message news:exMmdi78HHA.4752@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > "- Bobb -" <bobb@noemail.123> wrote in message > news:usaYYc78HHA.1900@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>I saw reference to this in another newgroup: >> http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/category/category_slc.asp?Sort=3&Nav=|c:672|&Recs=30 >> >> If OEM version, how would a buyer know WHICH OEM hardware it goes >> with ??? >> ( Aren't they usuall for certain model hardware - like Dell Dimension >> 2100 ) >> It seems to be a full version of XP SP2. I thought an OEM version was >> restricted to a particular model. So would a " Full OEM version" work >> on ANY model PC ? I never knew an OEM CD to install on " any >> hardware". >> >> So the only difference between this and non-OEM version is that this >> will erase/format HDD prior to install ? ( see note there) >> " Note: This version of Microsoft Windows XP cannot be upgraded from >> earlier versions of Windows. If your operating system is Windows >> 2000/ME/98 you must backup your data before installation. This OEM >> version will only allow a clean Install, and your existing data will >> be deleted. " >> >> If only difference is that, why would anyone have bought this OEM >> version at retail ( since non-OEM version gives option to install >> over old software and dual-boot etc). >> > > > There are two types of OEM - generic and BIOS-locked. the BIOS-locked > version will only install on a certain machine, the generic version > will install on ANY machine. But if you already have a qualifying earlier OS like 2000/ME/98 and its installation disk, you're arguably better off purchasing the retail upgrade version rather than a generic OEM version. One reason is that unlike the OEM, the license to use it does not die with the PC it is installed on. Furthermore, the upgrade version can allow you to perform an in-place upgrade (again, the OEM version only allows a clean install, as the OP pointed out). Then again, if it were me, I would do a clean install regardless. And since the upgrade version allows a clean install, that's what I would choose.
Guest smlunatick Posted September 10, 2007 Posted September 10, 2007 Re: buy OEM version - I thought limited to mfr model ? On Sep 10, 10:40 am, "Gordon" <gbpli...@gmail.com.invalid> wrote: > "- Bobb -" <b...@noemail.123> wrote in messagenews:usaYYc78HHA.1900@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > > > > > >I saw reference to this in another newgroup: > >http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/category/category_slc.asp?Sor...c:672|&Recs=30 > > > If OEM version, how would a buyer know WHICH OEM hardware it goes with ??? > > ( Aren't they usuall for certain model hardware - like Dell Dimension > > 2100 ) > > It seems to be a full version of XP SP2. I thought an OEM version was > > restricted to a particular model. So would a " Full OEM version" work on > > ANY model PC ? I never knew an OEM CD to install on " any hardware". > > > So the only difference between this and non-OEM version is that this will > > erase/format HDD prior to install ? ( see note there) > > " Note: This version of Microsoft Windows XP cannot be upgraded from > > earlier versions of Windows. If your operating system is Windows > > 2000/ME/98 you must backup your data before installation. This OEM version > > will only allow a clean Install, and your existing data will be deleted. " > > > If only difference is that, why would anyone have bought this OEM version > > at retail ( since non-OEM version gives option to install over old > > software and dual-boot etc). > > There are two types of OEM - generic and BIOS-locked. the BIOS-locked > version will only install on a certain machine, the generic version will > install on ANY machine.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Please maje that "three" types: BIOS/machine locked, General manufacturer "tweaked" and generic. BIOS/machine locked: developed my mass OEM PC makers and locked per PC model. General manufacturer "tweaked": Simlar to the "generic" OEM and requires unique OEM CD key, based from OEM PC manufacturer. BE WARE: a lot of times these version are sold as "generic" OEM version on the Internet. However, product activations are "pain" to do since Microsoft will not let these work with "generic" CD keys. Generic OEM: Eactly the same product as the retail version of Microsoft XP. However, sold directly with qualifing hardware component and supported directly by the hardware component vendor (aka seller.) No direct tech support from Microsoft.
Guest Ken Blake, MVP Posted September 10, 2007 Posted September 10, 2007 Re: buy OEM version - I thought limited to mfr model ? On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 10:30:09 -0400, "- Bobb -" <bobb@noemail.123> wrote: > I saw reference to this in another newgroup: > http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/category/category_slc.asp?Sort=3&Nav=|c:672|&Recs=30 > > If OEM version, how would a buyer know WHICH OEM hardware it goes with ??? > ( Aren't they usuall for certain model hardware - like Dell Dimension > 2100 ) > It seems to be a full version of XP SP2. I thought an OEM version was > restricted to a particular model. So would a " Full OEM version" work on > ANY model PC ? I never knew an OEM CD to install on " any hardware". There are two-types of OEM versions: 1. Those that particular OEMs customize for particular computers they sell, and are normally shipped pre-installed on those computers. They are also often (but not always) BIOS-locked to the particular motherboard model they come with, and won't install on anything else. 2. Generic OEM versions. Although they aren't retail versions, these are sold in the retail market, both by big chains like Walmart and by small local custom-builders. There was a time when the requirement was that these could only be sold with a computer, new motherboard, or new hard drive. Then the requirement was relaxed to be any hardware. And apparently now, even that requirement may be gone. In terms of the software they contain, these are identical to the retail versions. Both types of OEM versions have the following disadvantages as compared with the retail version: 1. Its license ties it permanently to the first computer it's installed on. It can never legally be moved to another computer, sold, or given away. 2. It can only do a clean installation, not an upgrade. 3. Microsoft provides no support for OEM versions. You can't call them with a problem, but instead have to get any needed support from your OEM; that support may range anywhere between good and non-existent. Or you can get support elsewhere, such as in these newsgroups. By the way, it's disadvantage number 1 above that's the deal-breaker for a generic OEM version, as far as I'm concerned. An OEM version usually costs only slightly less than a retail Upgrade version, and I think the Upgrade is worth that slight additional cost to get rid of that restriction. And contrary to what many people think, an Upgrade version *can* do a clean installation, as long as you have the CD of a previous qualifying version (buy a cheap used copy of Windows 98 on eBay if you don't have one) to show it when prompted. -- Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User Please Reply to the Newsgroup
Guest Lil' Dave Posted September 11, 2007 Posted September 11, 2007 Re: buy OEM version - I thought limited to mfr model ? "- Bobb -" <bobb@noemail.123> wrote in message news:usaYYc78HHA.1900@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >I saw reference to this in another newgroup: > http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/category/category_slc.asp?Sort=3&Nav=|c:672|&Recs=30 > > If OEM version, how would a buyer know WHICH OEM hardware it goes with ??? > ( Aren't they usuall for certain model hardware - like Dell Dimension > 2100 ) > It seems to be a full version of XP SP2. I thought an OEM version was > restricted to a particular model. So would a " Full OEM version" work on > ANY model PC ? I never knew an OEM CD to install on " any hardware". > > So the only difference between this and non-OEM version is that this will > erase/format HDD prior to install ? ( see note there) > " Note: This version of Microsoft Windows XP cannot be upgraded from > earlier versions of Windows. If your operating system is Windows > 2000/ME/98 you must backup your data before installation. This OEM version > will only allow a clean Install, and your existing data will be deleted. " > > If only difference is that, why would anyone have bought this OEM version > at retail ( since non-OEM version gives option to install over old > software and dual-boot etc). > Not everyone is in the same boat, nor has the same level of experience, nor wants or needs a prior windows installation, nor do all people rely on windows to keep their personal data intact. Some clean install on a wiped hard drive annually for their own reasons. Some smile at 30 day tech support as an incentive to buy a retail version. Some droid MVPs seem to think otherwise. Dave
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