Guest wylbur37 Posted September 10, 2007 Posted September 10, 2007 When using the Internet via WiFi at a public place such as a library or cafe, it is conceivable that the people running the router could be capturing all of your transmissions and therefore could be recording your name, account numbers, etc. Are there ways to prevent or minimize this hazard? For example, would it help to use something like Torpark? What would you recommend?
Guest R. McCarty Posted September 10, 2007 Posted September 10, 2007 Re: How to protect your privacy while on WiFi ? Just make sure you only send sensitive data when the "Lock" symbol is closed ( If using IE ) which denotes an encrypted transmission using https. "wylbur37" <wylbur37nospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1189441418.726044.206640@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com... > When using the Internet via WiFi at a public place such as a library > or cafe, it is conceivable that the people running the router > could be capturing all of your transmissions and therefore > could be recording your name, account numbers, etc. > > Are there ways to prevent or minimize this hazard? > > For example, would it help to use something like Torpark? > > What would you recommend? >
Guest Tom Porterfield Posted September 10, 2007 Posted September 10, 2007 Re: How to protect your privacy while on WiFi ? wylbur37 wrote: > When using the Internet via WiFi at a public place such as a library > or cafe, it is conceivable that the people running the router > could be capturing all of your transmissions and therefore > could be recording your name, account numbers, etc. > > Are there ways to prevent or minimize this hazard? > > For example, would it help to use something like Torpark? > > What would you recommend? My first recommendation is to not use public WiFi networks to send personally identifiable data. If you do plan on sending private or personal information from a public WiFi then make sure you are using a secure protocol such as SSL or other. This will insure the data is properly encrypted and only readable on the server holding the certificate. -- Tom Porterfield
Guest me Posted September 10, 2007 Posted September 10, 2007 Re: How to protect your privacy while on WiFi ? Tunnel your traffic through a secure SOCKS server.
Guest Dana Posted September 10, 2007 Posted September 10, 2007 Re: How to protect your privacy while on WiFi ? "wylbur37" <wylbur37nospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1189441418.726044.206640@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com... > When using the Internet via WiFi at a public place such as a library > or cafe, it is conceivable that the people running the router > could be capturing all of your transmissions and therefore > could be recording your name, account numbers, etc. > > Are there ways to prevent or minimize this hazard? Do not use public wifi, and if you do, do not send sensitive items over the link. > > For example, would it help to use something like Torpark? Seems Torpark will not help on the wireless part at all. > > What would you recommend? >
Guest rms Posted September 10, 2007 Posted September 10, 2007 Re: How to protect your privacy while on WiFi ? > When using the Internet via WiFi at a public place such as a library > or cafe, it is conceivable that the people running the router > could be capturing all of your transmissions and therefore > could be recording your name, account numbers, etc. Yep. Or in the Evil Twin attack, someone could set up their own AP and force your pc to attach to it. There is also 'cookie hijacking', whereby if your connection is unencrypted, it is a utility-and-one-click away from being hijacked and someone reading all your emails. > Are there ways to prevent or minimize this hazard? > For example, would it help to use something like Torpark? Torpark is now 'Xerobank' http://xerobank.com/xB_browser.html It looks like you are talking about browsing from other people's machines, so this is a good option, but remember there could still be keyloggers and such running on those machines to steal information, and you'd never know. Keyloggers can be bypassed somewhat by cuttingandpasting from a file on a thumbdrive or by using one of the various programs designed to defeat them. If on your own machine, I've also been using another free VPN service, Anchorfree http://anchorfree.com/ which does add ad banners to some sites, but works fine for me the few times I've used it. http://www.witopia.net/ is another, there are others. rms
Guest HeyBub Posted September 10, 2007 Posted September 10, 2007 Re: How to protect your privacy while on WiFi ? wylbur37 wrote: > When using the Internet via WiFi at a public place such as a library > or cafe, it is conceivable that the people running the router > could be capturing all of your transmissions and therefore > could be recording your name, account numbers, etc. > > Are there ways to prevent or minimize this hazard? > > For example, would it help to use something like Torpark? > > What would you recommend? Doesn't matter. If they want to know, they'll know. Consider the following: Police: "Did you call regarding a man exponsing himself?" Librarian: "Yes, it happened right over there at that public terminal." Police: "Do you know who it was or have surveillance tapes?" Librarian: "Yes, but you can't see them." Police: "Why not?" Librarian: "Because we value the privacy of our patrons." Police: "(???) Well, what CAN you tell us?" Librarian: "That you'll have to have a warrant." (pause) Police: "We don't need no stinkin' warrant! (hits librarian with stick) Now you give it up or I'll beat you so hard, you won't be able to lie down!"
Guest Mark Shroyer Posted September 10, 2007 Posted September 10, 2007 Re: How to protect your privacy while on WiFi ? On 2007-09-10, me <cwilliams28@cox.net> wrote: > Tunnel your traffic through a secure SOCKS server. Using an encrypted SOCKS proxy is a good solution for securing individual applications, but it has some limitations. In particular: When using SOCKS to protect Web traffic, your HTTP requests and responses themselves will be encrypted as per your web browser's proxy configuration, but DNS requests generally will not. So while nobody on the wireless LAN would be able to directly see the pages you're looking at, they could easily tell precisely which Web servers you visit unless you take extra care to ensure that the browser bypasses the system DNS resolver, querying the SOCKS server instead (e.g., the network.proxy.socks_remote_dns setting in Firefox). Torpark, now known as xB Browser, also provides HTTP traffic encryption (over the Tor network, which itself uses a SOCKS interface). I'd imagine that it goes the extra step in tunneling DNS traffic by default, but I can't speak from personal experience. For my part I protect my privacy on untrusted networks with OpenVPN. I have a couple OpenVPN instances on my home network's gateway, one of which is configured to push a local default route and DNS server to clients. So when I connect my laptop to this VPN (using Angelo Laub's excellent Tunnelblick front-end for OS X), none of my Web, DNS, IM, or email traffic is legible to anybody on the wireless LAN. And as an added benefit, I get access to all the file shares and other services behind the NAT on my home network. If you have a spare old PC lying around and a reasonable amount of experience with Unix systems, I highly recommend setting up an OpenBSD home router with OpenVPN. Not only do you get a secure firewall and VPN solution, but once you have a full-fledged BSD server as your network gateway you'll discover no end of handy uses for the machine, which simply would not have been possible with a Linksys or Netgear from Best Buy. If you're interested in running your own VPN, I'd be happy to email you the self-reference system configuration manual that I wrote while installing my OpenBSD / OpenVPN gateway. (I'm planning to put it up on my web page eventually, but I haven't yet had the chance to proofread it for spelling and technical errors.) It might sound intimidating, but OpenVPN is in fact fantastically simple to set up if you have any Unix or Linux experience whatsoever. References: http://openvpn.net/ http://www.tunnelblick.net/ http://www.openbsd.org/ -- Mark Shroyer http://markshroyer.com/
Guest rms Posted September 10, 2007 Posted September 10, 2007 Re: How to protect your privacy while on WiFi ? > For my part I protect my privacy on untrusted networks with OpenVPN. Great *if you can install a home server*. witopia/anchorfree/etc also use the vpn concept (witopia is built on openvpn i think) but you just install a simple app on the laptop and use their servers for the tunnel. rms
Guest Unruh Posted September 11, 2007 Posted September 11, 2007 Re: How to protect your privacy while on WiFi ? wylbur37 <wylbur37nospam@yahoo.com> writes: >When using the Internet via WiFi at a public place such as a library >or cafe, it is conceivable that the people running the router >could be capturing all of your transmissions and therefore >could be recording your name, account numbers, etc. Use ssh. But the greater danger is taht they have put trojaned files onto the computers. Thus you cannot really trust the puttyssh they installed for example, or even the keyboard, since that could be captured. If it is your own computer, then use ssh, and do not use web browsers. >Are there ways to prevent or minimize this hazard? >For example, would it help to use something like Torpark? >What would you recommend?
Guest Airman Thunderbird Posted September 12, 2007 Posted September 12, 2007 Re: How to protect your privacy while on WiFi ? Been using this since April: http://www.jiwire.com/hotspot-helper.htm Seems to work well. wylbur37 wrote: > When using the Internet via WiFi at a public place such as a library > or cafe, it is conceivable that the people running the router > could be capturing all of your transmissions and therefore > could be recording your name, account numbers, etc. > > Are there ways to prevent or minimize this hazard? > > For example, would it help to use something like Torpark? > > What would you recommend? >
Guest llanalott@yahoo.com Posted September 12, 2007 Posted September 12, 2007 Re: How to protect your privacy while on WiFi ? wylbur37 wrote: > When using the Internet via WiFi at a public place such as a library > or cafe, it is conceivable that the people running the router > could be capturing all of your transmissions and therefore > could be recording your name, account numbers, etc. > > Are there ways to prevent or minimize this hazard? > > For example, would it help to use something like Torpark? > > What would you recommend? It's public computers you use? If it's theirs and they will let you reboot the computer you could use live cds with tor. Incognito, RocKate, Phantomix, ELE, Anonym.OS . These are Linux and BSD. Download the ISO, burn to CD, reboot computer. Make sure BIOS is set to boot CD before the hard drive. Public proxies with encryption. I know of snoopblocker.
Guest Goldy Posted September 16, 2007 Posted September 16, 2007 Re: How to protect your privacy while on WiFi ? On Sep 10, 9:23 am, wylbur37 <wylbur37nos...@yahoo.com> wrote: > When using the Internet via WiFi at a public place such as a library > or cafe, it is conceivable that the people running the router > could be capturing all of your transmissions and therefore > could be recording your name, account numbers, etc. > > Are there ways to prevent or minimize this hazard? > > For example, would it help to use something like Torpark? > > What would you recommend? I use JanusVM, but then again I am one of the developers so my opinion is basis. However, it is a transparent proxy that tunnels all of your traffic through Tor. It runs on your computer, not someone elses who you might not trust or know. With JanusVM, you don't have to reconfigure your existing application, which in turn also protects you from side-channel attacks. And the best part, it is FREE! (donations are nice though :) >From the site... " JanusVM Features * Works with WiFi. * Support multiple users in a LAN. * Protects you from most man-in-the-middle attacks. * Protects you from Javascript, Java, and Flash based side-channel privacy attacks. * Protects your identity and your true location by masking your IP Address. * Encrypts and re-routes your DNS request and ALL TCP traffic to ensure strong privacy. * Strips out most privacy sensitive information your web browser may leak. * Blocks popups, annoying ads, banners, and other obnoxious Internet junk. * Very simple setup and operation. * Works transparently for applications using TCP. (No UDP or ICMP support) " As you would with WiFi or any other type of public connection, MAKE SURE the sites you visit are using httpS. If httpS is not an option, then be very selective about what information you do share with those websites. If you do not use https, then whoever is running the exit node could possibly watch your traffic, but at least the people locally who could be sniffing the wireless won't have a clue as to what you are doing. Enjoy! http://www.JanusVM.com
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