Guest stgislander Posted September 12, 2007 Posted September 12, 2007 I just completed a fresh installation of WinXP and I immediately began getting the "System Has No Paging File or the Paging File Is Too Small" error. Before asking my question I thought I'd review the other posts to see if I could fix the problem. My project requires only the OS and my control application so a small (4GB) removable microdrive was selected. The drive has only one partition. Both files C:\pagefile.sys and C:\windows\system32\temppf.sys were located on the drive. I followed the suggestions in KB Article 315270 and ensured that all users (Administrator and one other) has Full Control permissions. I also followed some suggestions from Pegasus about giving everybody full access using the "cacls c: /e /g everyone:F" command, and ensuring that the SYSTEM account has full access to the HKLM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Memory Management registry key. I even checked that the "Read-only" box was not checked in the C:\pagefile.sys properties per someones suggestion. Nothing fixed the error. Finally, following a thought from R. McCarty that the C:\pagefile.sys file might be corrupt, I deleted it thinking that a new file would be created when I set the page file size in Windows Explorer\Properties\Advanced\Performance\Advanced\Virtual Memory. Of course that wasn't the case, and I am unable to copy C:\windows\system32\temppf.sys to the root because the system says the file's in use. Can anyone offer any assistance?
Guest R. McCarty Posted September 12, 2007 Posted September 12, 2007 Re: Another System Has No Paging File or the Paging File Too Small Err Set Pagefile to None, Reboot, Defrag the volume, then set a manually sized pagefile of say 256 or 384 Megabytes ( Min/Max ). I still would recommend you use Add/Remove programs ( Windows Components ) and then say XPLite to trim back the footprint of XP. You can also reduce it further if you purge the \DllCache which will recover ~500 Meg. Actually, I'd download and use Perfect Disk 8.0 in both a Boot and GUI mode pass to get the drive optimized. On several occasions I've been able to get Windows XP installed/running in a 2.7 Gigabyte disk footprint. Perfect Disk 8.0 evaluation versions here: http://www.raxco.com/products/downloadit/ "stgislander" <stgislander@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:20FB6531-89A7-4886-A602-9EB392306E1F@microsoft.com... >I just completed a fresh installation of WinXP and I immediately began > getting the "System Has No Paging File or the Paging File Is Too Small" > error. Before asking my question I thought I'd review the other posts to > see > if I could fix the problem. My project requires only the OS and my > control > application so a small (4GB) removable microdrive was selected. The drive > has only one partition. Both files C:\pagefile.sys and > C:\windows\system32\temppf.sys were located on the drive. > > I followed the suggestions in KB Article 315270 and ensured that all users > (Administrator and one other) has Full Control permissions. I also > followed > some suggestions from Pegasus about giving everybody full access using the > "cacls c: /e /g everyone:F" command, and ensuring that the SYSTEM account > has > full access to the HKLM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Memory > Management registry key. I even checked that the "Read-only" box was not > checked in the C:\pagefile.sys properties per someones suggestion. > Nothing > fixed the error. > > Finally, following a thought from R. McCarty that the C:\pagefile.sys file > might be corrupt, I deleted it thinking that a new file would be created > when > I set the page file size in Windows > Explorer\Properties\Advanced\Performance\Advanced\Virtual Memory. Of > course > that wasn't the case, and I am unable to copy > C:\windows\system32\temppf.sys > to the root because the system says the file's in use. > > Can anyone offer any assistance?
Guest stgislander Posted September 12, 2007 Posted September 12, 2007 Re: Another System Has No Paging File or the Paging File Too Small Re: Another System Has No Paging File or the Paging File Too Small Thanks for the suggestions. I followed your instructions including defraging the volume and trimming some of the Windows components. I did not locate a \DllCache folder to purge. Even after manually sizing pagefile to 256MB (initial) and 384MB (maximum), I still get the "System Has No Paging File or the Paging File Is Too Small" error after reboot. "R. McCarty" wrote: > Set Pagefile to None, Reboot, Defrag the volume, then set a manually > sized pagefile of say 256 or 384 Megabytes ( Min/Max ). I still would > recommend you use Add/Remove programs ( Windows Components ) > and then say XPLite to trim back the footprint of XP. You can also > reduce it further if you purge the \DllCache which will recover ~500 Meg. > Actually, I'd download and use Perfect Disk 8.0 in both a Boot and > GUI mode pass to get the drive optimized. On several occasions I've > been able to get Windows XP installed/running in a 2.7 Gigabyte disk > footprint. > > Perfect Disk 8.0 evaluation versions here: > http://www.raxco.com/products/downloadit/ > > "stgislander" <stgislander@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:20FB6531-89A7-4886-A602-9EB392306E1F@microsoft.com... > >I just completed a fresh installation of WinXP and I immediately began > > getting the "System Has No Paging File or the Paging File Is Too Small" > > error. Before asking my question I thought I'd review the other posts to > > see > > if I could fix the problem. My project requires only the OS and my > > control > > application so a small (4GB) removable microdrive was selected. The drive > > has only one partition. Both files C:\pagefile.sys and > > C:\windows\system32\temppf.sys were located on the drive. > > > > I followed the suggestions in KB Article 315270 and ensured that all users > > (Administrator and one other) has Full Control permissions. I also > > followed > > some suggestions from Pegasus about giving everybody full access using the > > "cacls c: /e /g everyone:F" command, and ensuring that the SYSTEM account > > has > > full access to the HKLM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Memory > > Management registry key. I even checked that the "Read-only" box was not > > checked in the C:\pagefile.sys properties per someones suggestion. > > Nothing > > fixed the error. > > > > Finally, following a thought from R. McCarty that the C:\pagefile.sys file > > might be corrupt, I deleted it thinking that a new file would be created > > when > > I set the page file size in Windows > > Explorer\Properties\Advanced\Performance\Advanced\Virtual Memory. Of > > course > > that wasn't the case, and I am unable to copy > > C:\windows\system32\temppf.sys > > to the root because the system says the file's in use. > > > > Can anyone offer any assistance? > > >
Guest R. McCarty Posted September 12, 2007 Posted September 12, 2007 Re: Another System Has No Paging File or the Paging File Too Small Re: Another System Has No Paging File or the Paging File Too Small To purge \DllCache, open Command prompt window and type SFC \PurgeCache [Enter] What Anti-Virus or other Security software is installed ? Some products ( eTrust 7.x ) can interfere with Pagefile changes. "stgislander" <stgislander@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:B53E6F61-CEDA-48D5-8699-5CF846A27F1E@microsoft.com... > Thanks for the suggestions. I followed your instructions including > defraging > the volume and trimming some of the Windows components. I did not locate > a > \DllCache folder to purge. Even after manually sizing pagefile to 256MB > (initial) and 384MB (maximum), I still get the "System Has No Paging File > or > the Paging File Is Too Small" error after reboot. > > "R. McCarty" wrote: > >> Set Pagefile to None, Reboot, Defrag the volume, then set a manually >> sized pagefile of say 256 or 384 Megabytes ( Min/Max ). I still would >> recommend you use Add/Remove programs ( Windows Components ) >> and then say XPLite to trim back the footprint of XP. You can also >> reduce it further if you purge the \DllCache which will recover ~500 Meg. >> Actually, I'd download and use Perfect Disk 8.0 in both a Boot and >> GUI mode pass to get the drive optimized. On several occasions I've >> been able to get Windows XP installed/running in a 2.7 Gigabyte disk >> footprint. >> >> Perfect Disk 8.0 evaluation versions here: >> http://www.raxco.com/products/downloadit/ >> >> "stgislander" <stgislander@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:20FB6531-89A7-4886-A602-9EB392306E1F@microsoft.com... >> >I just completed a fresh installation of WinXP and I immediately began >> > getting the "System Has No Paging File or the Paging File Is Too Small" >> > error. Before asking my question I thought I'd review the other posts >> > to >> > see >> > if I could fix the problem. My project requires only the OS and my >> > control >> > application so a small (4GB) removable microdrive was selected. The >> > drive >> > has only one partition. Both files C:\pagefile.sys and >> > C:\windows\system32\temppf.sys were located on the drive. >> > >> > I followed the suggestions in KB Article 315270 and ensured that all >> > users >> > (Administrator and one other) has Full Control permissions. I also >> > followed >> > some suggestions from Pegasus about giving everybody full access using >> > the >> > "cacls c: /e /g everyone:F" command, and ensuring that the SYSTEM >> > account >> > has >> > full access to the HKLM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session >> > Manager\Memory >> > Management registry key. I even checked that the "Read-only" box was >> > not >> > checked in the C:\pagefile.sys properties per someones suggestion. >> > Nothing >> > fixed the error. >> > >> > Finally, following a thought from R. McCarty that the C:\pagefile.sys >> > file >> > might be corrupt, I deleted it thinking that a new file would be >> > created >> > when >> > I set the page file size in Windows >> > Explorer\Properties\Advanced\Performance\Advanced\Virtual Memory. Of >> > course >> > that wasn't the case, and I am unable to copy >> > C:\windows\system32\temppf.sys >> > to the root because the system says the file's in use. >> > >> > Can anyone offer any assistance? >> >> >>
Guest stgislander Posted September 12, 2007 Posted September 12, 2007 Re: Another System Has No Paging File or the Paging File Too Small Re: Another System Has No Paging File or the Paging File Too Small There is no anti-virus or other security software installed. This is a new, fresh OS installation. "R. McCarty" wrote: > To purge \DllCache, open Command prompt window and type > SFC \PurgeCache [Enter] > What Anti-Virus or other Security software is installed ? Some > products ( eTrust 7.x ) can interfere with Pagefile changes. > > "stgislander" <stgislander@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:B53E6F61-CEDA-48D5-8699-5CF846A27F1E@microsoft.com... > > Thanks for the suggestions. I followed your instructions including > > defraging > > the volume and trimming some of the Windows components. I did not locate > > a > > \DllCache folder to purge. Even after manually sizing pagefile to 256MB > > (initial) and 384MB (maximum), I still get the "System Has No Paging File > > or > > the Paging File Is Too Small" error after reboot. > > > > "R. McCarty" wrote: > > > >> Set Pagefile to None, Reboot, Defrag the volume, then set a manually > >> sized pagefile of say 256 or 384 Megabytes ( Min/Max ). I still would > >> recommend you use Add/Remove programs ( Windows Components ) > >> and then say XPLite to trim back the footprint of XP. You can also > >> reduce it further if you purge the \DllCache which will recover ~500 Meg. > >> Actually, I'd download and use Perfect Disk 8.0 in both a Boot and > >> GUI mode pass to get the drive optimized. On several occasions I've > >> been able to get Windows XP installed/running in a 2.7 Gigabyte disk > >> footprint. > >> > >> Perfect Disk 8.0 evaluation versions here: > >> http://www.raxco.com/products/downloadit/ > >> > >> "stgislander" <stgislander@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> news:20FB6531-89A7-4886-A602-9EB392306E1F@microsoft.com... > >> >I just completed a fresh installation of WinXP and I immediately began > >> > getting the "System Has No Paging File or the Paging File Is Too Small" > >> > error. Before asking my question I thought I'd review the other posts > >> > to > >> > see > >> > if I could fix the problem. My project requires only the OS and my > >> > control > >> > application so a small (4GB) removable microdrive was selected. The > >> > drive > >> > has only one partition. Both files C:\pagefile.sys and > >> > C:\windows\system32\temppf.sys were located on the drive. > >> > > >> > I followed the suggestions in KB Article 315270 and ensured that all > >> > users > >> > (Administrator and one other) has Full Control permissions. I also > >> > followed > >> > some suggestions from Pegasus about giving everybody full access using > >> > the > >> > "cacls c: /e /g everyone:F" command, and ensuring that the SYSTEM > >> > account > >> > has > >> > full access to the HKLM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session > >> > Manager\Memory > >> > Management registry key. I even checked that the "Read-only" box was > >> > not > >> > checked in the C:\pagefile.sys properties per someones suggestion. > >> > Nothing > >> > fixed the error. > >> > > >> > Finally, following a thought from R. McCarty that the C:\pagefile.sys > >> > file > >> > might be corrupt, I deleted it thinking that a new file would be > >> > created > >> > when > >> > I set the page file size in Windows > >> > Explorer\Properties\Advanced\Performance\Advanced\Virtual Memory. Of > >> > course > >> > that wasn't the case, and I am unable to copy > >> > C:\windows\system32\temppf.sys > >> > to the root because the system says the file's in use. > >> > > >> > Can anyone offer any assistance? > >> > >> > >> > > >
Guest R. McCarty Posted September 12, 2007 Posted September 12, 2007 Re: Another System Has No Paging File or the Paging File Too Small Re: Another System Has No Paging File or the Paging File Too Small OK, that helps. Have you checked the System Event Log ? you may have startup issues. Speaking of that what sort of boot time are you getting ? Event Log, Click Start, Run (type) EventVwr.Msc [Enter] Expand the System Log in the Left pane, check Right Pane for red icons that denote errors. "stgislander" <stgislander@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:686E6B2C-359D-4D27-95B3-540428E18219@microsoft.com... > There is no anti-virus or other security software installed. This is a > new, > fresh OS installation. > > "R. McCarty" wrote: > >> To purge \DllCache, open Command prompt window and type >> SFC \PurgeCache [Enter] >> What Anti-Virus or other Security software is installed ? Some >> products ( eTrust 7.x ) can interfere with Pagefile changes. >> >> "stgislander" <stgislander@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:B53E6F61-CEDA-48D5-8699-5CF846A27F1E@microsoft.com... >> > Thanks for the suggestions. I followed your instructions including >> > defraging >> > the volume and trimming some of the Windows components. I did not >> > locate >> > a >> > \DllCache folder to purge. Even after manually sizing pagefile to >> > 256MB >> > (initial) and 384MB (maximum), I still get the "System Has No Paging >> > File >> > or >> > the Paging File Is Too Small" error after reboot. >> > >> > "R. McCarty" wrote: >> > >> >> Set Pagefile to None, Reboot, Defrag the volume, then set a manually >> >> sized pagefile of say 256 or 384 Megabytes ( Min/Max ). I still would >> >> recommend you use Add/Remove programs ( Windows Components ) >> >> and then say XPLite to trim back the footprint of XP. You can also >> >> reduce it further if you purge the \DllCache which will recover ~500 >> >> Meg. >> >> Actually, I'd download and use Perfect Disk 8.0 in both a Boot and >> >> GUI mode pass to get the drive optimized. On several occasions I've >> >> been able to get Windows XP installed/running in a 2.7 Gigabyte disk >> >> footprint. >> >> >> >> Perfect Disk 8.0 evaluation versions here: >> >> http://www.raxco.com/products/downloadit/ >> >> >> >> "stgislander" <stgislander@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> >> news:20FB6531-89A7-4886-A602-9EB392306E1F@microsoft.com... >> >> >I just completed a fresh installation of WinXP and I immediately >> >> >began >> >> > getting the "System Has No Paging File or the Paging File Is Too >> >> > Small" >> >> > error. Before asking my question I thought I'd review the other >> >> > posts >> >> > to >> >> > see >> >> > if I could fix the problem. My project requires only the OS and my >> >> > control >> >> > application so a small (4GB) removable microdrive was selected. The >> >> > drive >> >> > has only one partition. Both files C:\pagefile.sys and >> >> > C:\windows\system32\temppf.sys were located on the drive. >> >> > >> >> > I followed the suggestions in KB Article 315270 and ensured that all >> >> > users >> >> > (Administrator and one other) has Full Control permissions. I also >> >> > followed >> >> > some suggestions from Pegasus about giving everybody full access >> >> > using >> >> > the >> >> > "cacls c: /e /g everyone:F" command, and ensuring that the SYSTEM >> >> > account >> >> > has >> >> > full access to the HKLM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session >> >> > Manager\Memory >> >> > Management registry key. I even checked that the "Read-only" box >> >> > was >> >> > not >> >> > checked in the C:\pagefile.sys properties per someones suggestion. >> >> > Nothing >> >> > fixed the error. >> >> > >> >> > Finally, following a thought from R. McCarty that the >> >> > C:\pagefile.sys >> >> > file >> >> > might be corrupt, I deleted it thinking that a new file would be >> >> > created >> >> > when >> >> > I set the page file size in Windows >> >> > Explorer\Properties\Advanced\Performance\Advanced\Virtual Memory. >> >> > Of >> >> > course >> >> > that wasn't the case, and I am unable to copy >> >> > C:\windows\system32\temppf.sys >> >> > to the root because the system says the file's in use. >> >> > >> >> > Can anyone offer any assistance? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
Guest Script Posted September 12, 2007 Posted September 12, 2007 RE: Another System Has No Paging File or the Paging File Too Small Err Random thought: Eliminate "Hibernation", if possible? "stgislander" wrote: > I just completed a fresh installation of WinXP and I immediately began > getting the "System Has No Paging File or the Paging File Is Too Small" > error. Before asking my question I thought I'd review the other posts to see > if I could fix the problem. My project requires only the OS and my control > application so a small (4GB) removable microdrive was selected. The drive > has only one partition. Both files C:\pagefile.sys and > C:\windows\system32\temppf.sys were located on the drive. > > I followed the suggestions in KB Article 315270 and ensured that all users > (Administrator and one other) has Full Control permissions. I also followed > some suggestions from Pegasus about giving everybody full access using the > "cacls c: /e /g everyone:F" command, and ensuring that the SYSTEM account has > full access to the HKLM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Memory > Management registry key. I even checked that the "Read-only" box was not > checked in the C:\pagefile.sys properties per someones suggestion. Nothing > fixed the error. > > Finally, following a thought from R. McCarty that the C:\pagefile.sys file > might be corrupt, I deleted it thinking that a new file would be created when > I set the page file size in Windows > Explorer\Properties\Advanced\Performance\Advanced\Virtual Memory. Of course > that wasn't the case, and I am unable to copy C:\windows\system32\temppf.sys > to the root because the system says the file's in use. > > Can anyone offer any assistance?
Guest John John Posted September 13, 2007 Posted September 13, 2007 Re: Another System Has No Paging File or the Paging File Too SmallErr Re: Another System Has No Paging File or the Paging File Too SmallErr If you want to boot from a flash drive you will probably need to run without a pagefile. Windows does not tolerate pagefiles too well on removable devices. John stgislander wrote: > I just completed a fresh installation of WinXP and I immediately began > getting the "System Has No Paging File or the Paging File Is Too Small" > error. Before asking my question I thought I'd review the other posts to see > if I could fix the problem. My project requires only the OS and my control > application so a small (4GB) removable microdrive was selected. The drive > has only one partition. Both files C:\pagefile.sys and > C:\windows\system32\temppf.sys were located on the drive. > > I followed the suggestions in KB Article 315270 and ensured that all users > (Administrator and one other) has Full Control permissions. I also followed > some suggestions from Pegasus about giving everybody full access using the > "cacls c: /e /g everyone:F" command, and ensuring that the SYSTEM account has > full access to the HKLM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Memory > Management registry key. I even checked that the "Read-only" box was not > checked in the C:\pagefile.sys properties per someones suggestion. Nothing > fixed the error. > > Finally, following a thought from R. McCarty that the C:\pagefile.sys file > might be corrupt, I deleted it thinking that a new file would be created when > I set the page file size in Windows > Explorer\Properties\Advanced\Performance\Advanced\Virtual Memory. Of course > that wasn't the case, and I am unable to copy C:\windows\system32\temppf.sys > to the root because the system says the file's in use. > > Can anyone offer any assistance?
Guest stgislander Posted September 13, 2007 Posted September 13, 2007 Re: Another System Has No Paging File or the Paging File Too Small Re: Another System Has No Paging File or the Paging File Too Small There are two errors in this morning's System event log. #1 - The System Restore initialization process failed. #2 - The System Restore Service service terminated with the following error: The system cannot find the device specified. The time from pressing the ON button to the error message is 53 seconds. "R. McCarty" wrote: > OK, that helps. Have you checked the System Event Log ? you > may have startup issues. Speaking of that what sort of boot time > are you getting ? > Event Log, Click Start, Run (type) EventVwr.Msc [Enter] > Expand the System Log in the Left pane, check Right Pane for > red icons that denote errors. > > "stgislander" <stgislander@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:686E6B2C-359D-4D27-95B3-540428E18219@microsoft.com... > > There is no anti-virus or other security software installed. This is a > > new, > > fresh OS installation. > > > > "R. McCarty" wrote: > > > >> To purge \DllCache, open Command prompt window and type > >> SFC \PurgeCache [Enter] > >> What Anti-Virus or other Security software is installed ? Some > >> products ( eTrust 7.x ) can interfere with Pagefile changes. > >> > >> "stgislander" <stgislander@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> news:B53E6F61-CEDA-48D5-8699-5CF846A27F1E@microsoft.com... > >> > Thanks for the suggestions. I followed your instructions including > >> > defraging > >> > the volume and trimming some of the Windows components. I did not > >> > locate > >> > a > >> > \DllCache folder to purge. Even after manually sizing pagefile to > >> > 256MB > >> > (initial) and 384MB (maximum), I still get the "System Has No Paging > >> > File > >> > or > >> > the Paging File Is Too Small" error after reboot. > >> > > >> > "R. McCarty" wrote: > >> > > >> >> Set Pagefile to None, Reboot, Defrag the volume, then set a manually > >> >> sized pagefile of say 256 or 384 Megabytes ( Min/Max ). I still would > >> >> recommend you use Add/Remove programs ( Windows Components ) > >> >> and then say XPLite to trim back the footprint of XP. You can also > >> >> reduce it further if you purge the \DllCache which will recover ~500 > >> >> Meg. > >> >> Actually, I'd download and use Perfect Disk 8.0 in both a Boot and > >> >> GUI mode pass to get the drive optimized. On several occasions I've > >> >> been able to get Windows XP installed/running in a 2.7 Gigabyte disk > >> >> footprint. > >> >> > >> >> Perfect Disk 8.0 evaluation versions here: > >> >> http://www.raxco.com/products/downloadit/ > >> >> > >> >> "stgislander" <stgislander@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> >> news:20FB6531-89A7-4886-A602-9EB392306E1F@microsoft.com... > >> >> >I just completed a fresh installation of WinXP and I immediately > >> >> >began > >> >> > getting the "System Has No Paging File or the Paging File Is Too > >> >> > Small" > >> >> > error. Before asking my question I thought I'd review the other > >> >> > posts > >> >> > to > >> >> > see > >> >> > if I could fix the problem. My project requires only the OS and my > >> >> > control > >> >> > application so a small (4GB) removable microdrive was selected. The > >> >> > drive > >> >> > has only one partition. Both files C:\pagefile.sys and > >> >> > C:\windows\system32\temppf.sys were located on the drive. > >> >> > > >> >> > I followed the suggestions in KB Article 315270 and ensured that all > >> >> > users > >> >> > (Administrator and one other) has Full Control permissions. I also > >> >> > followed > >> >> > some suggestions from Pegasus about giving everybody full access > >> >> > using > >> >> > the > >> >> > "cacls c: /e /g everyone:F" command, and ensuring that the SYSTEM > >> >> > account > >> >> > has > >> >> > full access to the HKLM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session > >> >> > Manager\Memory > >> >> > Management registry key. I even checked that the "Read-only" box > >> >> > was > >> >> > not > >> >> > checked in the C:\pagefile.sys properties per someones suggestion. > >> >> > Nothing > >> >> > fixed the error. > >> >> > > >> >> > Finally, following a thought from R. McCarty that the > >> >> > C:\pagefile.sys > >> >> > file > >> >> > might be corrupt, I deleted it thinking that a new file would be > >> >> > created > >> >> > when > >> >> > I set the page file size in Windows > >> >> > Explorer\Properties\Advanced\Performance\Advanced\Virtual Memory. > >> >> > Of > >> >> > course > >> >> > that wasn't the case, and I am unable to copy > >> >> > C:\windows\system32\temppf.sys > >> >> > to the root because the system says the file's in use. > >> >> > > >> >> > Can anyone offer any assistance? > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > >> > >> > > >
Guest R. McCarty Posted September 13, 2007 Posted September 13, 2007 Re: Another System Has No Paging File or the Paging File Too Small Re: Another System Has No Paging File or the Paging File Too Small 53 is OK, I'd suggest you either disable System Restore or set it's reserved space to something that might hold 2 restore points, say 500 Megabytes ( Max ). Also someone yesterday mentioned the Hibernation ( Hiberfil.Sys ). I would agree you might want to set Hibernation support to disabled. This would recover disk space = to your Physical RAM count. "stgislander" <stgislander@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:C104D431-6A53-4EF7-A23D-1CF60BED01EA@microsoft.com... > There are two errors in this morning's System event log. > > #1 - The System Restore initialization process failed. > #2 - The System Restore Service service terminated with the following > error: > The system cannot find the device specified. > > The time from pressing the ON button to the error message is 53 seconds. > > "R. McCarty" wrote: > >> OK, that helps. Have you checked the System Event Log ? you >> may have startup issues. Speaking of that what sort of boot time >> are you getting ? >> Event Log, Click Start, Run (type) EventVwr.Msc [Enter] >> Expand the System Log in the Left pane, check Right Pane for >> red icons that denote errors. >> >> "stgislander" <stgislander@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:686E6B2C-359D-4D27-95B3-540428E18219@microsoft.com... >> > There is no anti-virus or other security software installed. This is a >> > new, >> > fresh OS installation. >> > >> > "R. McCarty" wrote: >> > >> >> To purge \DllCache, open Command prompt window and type >> >> SFC \PurgeCache [Enter] >> >> What Anti-Virus or other Security software is installed ? Some >> >> products ( eTrust 7.x ) can interfere with Pagefile changes. >> >> >> >> "stgislander" <stgislander@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> >> news:B53E6F61-CEDA-48D5-8699-5CF846A27F1E@microsoft.com... >> >> > Thanks for the suggestions. I followed your instructions including >> >> > defraging >> >> > the volume and trimming some of the Windows components. I did not >> >> > locate >> >> > a >> >> > \DllCache folder to purge. Even after manually sizing pagefile to >> >> > 256MB >> >> > (initial) and 384MB (maximum), I still get the "System Has No Paging >> >> > File >> >> > or >> >> > the Paging File Is Too Small" error after reboot. >> >> > >> >> > "R. McCarty" wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> Set Pagefile to None, Reboot, Defrag the volume, then set a >> >> >> manually >> >> >> sized pagefile of say 256 or 384 Megabytes ( Min/Max ). I still >> >> >> would >> >> >> recommend you use Add/Remove programs ( Windows Components ) >> >> >> and then say XPLite to trim back the footprint of XP. You can also >> >> >> reduce it further if you purge the \DllCache which will recover >> >> >> ~500 >> >> >> Meg. >> >> >> Actually, I'd download and use Perfect Disk 8.0 in both a Boot and >> >> >> GUI mode pass to get the drive optimized. On several occasions >> >> >> I've >> >> >> been able to get Windows XP installed/running in a 2.7 Gigabyte >> >> >> disk >> >> >> footprint. >> >> >> >> >> >> Perfect Disk 8.0 evaluation versions here: >> >> >> http://www.raxco.com/products/downloadit/ >> >> >> >> >> >> "stgislander" <stgislander@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in >> >> >> message >> >> >> news:20FB6531-89A7-4886-A602-9EB392306E1F@microsoft.com... >> >> >> >I just completed a fresh installation of WinXP and I immediately >> >> >> >began >> >> >> > getting the "System Has No Paging File or the Paging File Is Too >> >> >> > Small" >> >> >> > error. Before asking my question I thought I'd review the other >> >> >> > posts >> >> >> > to >> >> >> > see >> >> >> > if I could fix the problem. My project requires only the OS and >> >> >> > my >> >> >> > control >> >> >> > application so a small (4GB) removable microdrive was selected. >> >> >> > The >> >> >> > drive >> >> >> > has only one partition. Both files C:\pagefile.sys and >> >> >> > C:\windows\system32\temppf.sys were located on the drive. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > I followed the suggestions in KB Article 315270 and ensured that >> >> >> > all >> >> >> > users >> >> >> > (Administrator and one other) has Full Control permissions. I >> >> >> > also >> >> >> > followed >> >> >> > some suggestions from Pegasus about giving everybody full access >> >> >> > using >> >> >> > the >> >> >> > "cacls c: /e /g everyone:F" command, and ensuring that the SYSTEM >> >> >> > account >> >> >> > has >> >> >> > full access to the HKLM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session >> >> >> > Manager\Memory >> >> >> > Management registry key. I even checked that the "Read-only" box >> >> >> > was >> >> >> > not >> >> >> > checked in the C:\pagefile.sys properties per someones >> >> >> > suggestion. >> >> >> > Nothing >> >> >> > fixed the error. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Finally, following a thought from R. McCarty that the >> >> >> > C:\pagefile.sys >> >> >> > file >> >> >> > might be corrupt, I deleted it thinking that a new file would be >> >> >> > created >> >> >> > when >> >> >> > I set the page file size in Windows >> >> >> > Explorer\Properties\Advanced\Performance\Advanced\Virtual Memory. >> >> >> > Of >> >> >> > course >> >> >> > that wasn't the case, and I am unable to copy >> >> >> > C:\windows\system32\temppf.sys >> >> >> > to the root because the system says the file's in use. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Can anyone offer any assistance? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
Guest stgislander Posted September 13, 2007 Posted September 13, 2007 Re: Another System Has No Paging File or the Paging File Too Small Re: Another System Has No Paging File or the Paging File Too Small Ok... there is no checkbox to disable System Restore on my System Properties page. Is there another way to do it? Also, the box for "Enable hibernation" is not checked. "R. McCarty" wrote: > 53 is OK, I'd suggest you either disable System Restore or set it's > reserved space to something that might hold 2 restore points, say > 500 Megabytes ( Max ). Also someone yesterday mentioned the > Hibernation ( Hiberfil.Sys ). I would agree you might want to set > Hibernation support to disabled. This would recover disk space = > to your Physical RAM count. > > "stgislander" <stgislander@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:C104D431-6A53-4EF7-A23D-1CF60BED01EA@microsoft.com... > > There are two errors in this morning's System event log. > > > > #1 - The System Restore initialization process failed. > > #2 - The System Restore Service service terminated with the following > > error: > > The system cannot find the device specified. > > > > The time from pressing the ON button to the error message is 53 seconds. > > > > "R. McCarty" wrote: > > > >> OK, that helps. Have you checked the System Event Log ? you > >> may have startup issues. Speaking of that what sort of boot time > >> are you getting ? > >> Event Log, Click Start, Run (type) EventVwr.Msc [Enter] > >> Expand the System Log in the Left pane, check Right Pane for > >> red icons that denote errors. > >> > >> "stgislander" <stgislander@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> news:686E6B2C-359D-4D27-95B3-540428E18219@microsoft.com... > >> > There is no anti-virus or other security software installed. This is a > >> > new, > >> > fresh OS installation. > >> > > >> > "R. McCarty" wrote: > >> > > >> >> To purge \DllCache, open Command prompt window and type > >> >> SFC \PurgeCache [Enter] > >> >> What Anti-Virus or other Security software is installed ? Some > >> >> products ( eTrust 7.x ) can interfere with Pagefile changes. > >> >> > >> >> "stgislander" <stgislander@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> >> news:B53E6F61-CEDA-48D5-8699-5CF846A27F1E@microsoft.com... > >> >> > Thanks for the suggestions. I followed your instructions including > >> >> > defraging > >> >> > the volume and trimming some of the Windows components. I did not > >> >> > locate > >> >> > a > >> >> > \DllCache folder to purge. Even after manually sizing pagefile to > >> >> > 256MB > >> >> > (initial) and 384MB (maximum), I still get the "System Has No Paging > >> >> > File > >> >> > or > >> >> > the Paging File Is Too Small" error after reboot. > >> >> > > >> >> > "R. McCarty" wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> Set Pagefile to None, Reboot, Defrag the volume, then set a > >> >> >> manually > >> >> >> sized pagefile of say 256 or 384 Megabytes ( Min/Max ). I still > >> >> >> would > >> >> >> recommend you use Add/Remove programs ( Windows Components ) > >> >> >> and then say XPLite to trim back the footprint of XP. You can also > >> >> >> reduce it further if you purge the \DllCache which will recover > >> >> >> ~500 > >> >> >> Meg. > >> >> >> Actually, I'd download and use Perfect Disk 8.0 in both a Boot and > >> >> >> GUI mode pass to get the drive optimized. On several occasions > >> >> >> I've > >> >> >> been able to get Windows XP installed/running in a 2.7 Gigabyte > >> >> >> disk > >> >> >> footprint. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Perfect Disk 8.0 evaluation versions here: > >> >> >> http://www.raxco.com/products/downloadit/ > >> >> >> > >> >> >> "stgislander" <stgislander@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in > >> >> >> message > >> >> >> news:20FB6531-89A7-4886-A602-9EB392306E1F@microsoft.com... > >> >> >> >I just completed a fresh installation of WinXP and I immediately > >> >> >> >began > >> >> >> > getting the "System Has No Paging File or the Paging File Is Too > >> >> >> > Small" > >> >> >> > error. Before asking my question I thought I'd review the other > >> >> >> > posts > >> >> >> > to > >> >> >> > see > >> >> >> > if I could fix the problem. My project requires only the OS and > >> >> >> > my > >> >> >> > control > >> >> >> > application so a small (4GB) removable microdrive was selected. > >> >> >> > The > >> >> >> > drive > >> >> >> > has only one partition. Both files C:\pagefile.sys and > >> >> >> > C:\windows\system32\temppf.sys were located on the drive. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > I followed the suggestions in KB Article 315270 and ensured that > >> >> >> > all > >> >> >> > users > >> >> >> > (Administrator and one other) has Full Control permissions. I > >> >> >> > also > >> >> >> > followed > >> >> >> > some suggestions from Pegasus about giving everybody full access > >> >> >> > using > >> >> >> > the > >> >> >> > "cacls c: /e /g everyone:F" command, and ensuring that the SYSTEM > >> >> >> > account > >> >> >> > has > >> >> >> > full access to the HKLM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session > >> >> >> > Manager\Memory > >> >> >> > Management registry key. I even checked that the "Read-only" box > >> >> >> > was > >> >> >> > not > >> >> >> > checked in the C:\pagefile.sys properties per someones > >> >> >> > suggestion. > >> >> >> > Nothing > >> >> >> > fixed the error. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Finally, following a thought from R. McCarty that the > >> >> >> > C:\pagefile.sys > >> >> >> > file > >> >> >> > might be corrupt, I deleted it thinking that a new file would be > >> >> >> > created > >> >> >> > when > >> >> >> > I set the page file size in Windows > >> >> >> > Explorer\Properties\Advanced\Performance\Advanced\Virtual Memory. > >> >> >> > Of > >> >> >> > course > >> >> >> > that wasn't the case, and I am unable to copy > >> >> >> > C:\windows\system32\temppf.sys > >> >> >> > to the root because the system says the file's in use. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Can anyone offer any assistance? > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > >> > >> > > >
Guest R. McCarty Posted September 13, 2007 Posted September 13, 2007 Re: Another System Has No Paging File or the Paging File Too Small Re: Another System Has No Paging File or the Paging File Too Small Hibernation is OK then, I'd probably just set the Start Mode for the System Restore service to Disabled ( 4 ). That will ensure that it is not running. Can be done with Services.Msc. "stgislander" <stgislander@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:FBA9D349-3788-40B0-A0A8-28D767B21269@microsoft.com... > Ok... there is no checkbox to disable System Restore on my System > Properties > page. Is there another way to do it? Also, the box for "Enable > hibernation" > is not checked. > > "R. McCarty" wrote: > >> 53 is OK, I'd suggest you either disable System Restore or set it's >> reserved space to something that might hold 2 restore points, say >> 500 Megabytes ( Max ). Also someone yesterday mentioned the >> Hibernation ( Hiberfil.Sys ). I would agree you might want to set >> Hibernation support to disabled. This would recover disk space = >> to your Physical RAM count. >> >> "stgislander" <stgislander@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:C104D431-6A53-4EF7-A23D-1CF60BED01EA@microsoft.com... >> > There are two errors in this morning's System event log. >> > >> > #1 - The System Restore initialization process failed. >> > #2 - The System Restore Service service terminated with the following >> > error: >> > The system cannot find the device specified. >> > >> > The time from pressing the ON button to the error message is 53 >> > seconds. >> > >> > "R. McCarty" wrote: >> > >> >> OK, that helps. Have you checked the System Event Log ? you >> >> may have startup issues. Speaking of that what sort of boot time >> >> are you getting ? >> >> Event Log, Click Start, Run (type) EventVwr.Msc [Enter] >> >> Expand the System Log in the Left pane, check Right Pane for >> >> red icons that denote errors. >> >> >> >> "stgislander" <stgislander@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> >> news:686E6B2C-359D-4D27-95B3-540428E18219@microsoft.com... >> >> > There is no anti-virus or other security software installed. This >> >> > is a >> >> > new, >> >> > fresh OS installation. >> >> > >> >> > "R. McCarty" wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> To purge \DllCache, open Command prompt window and type >> >> >> SFC \PurgeCache [Enter] >> >> >> What Anti-Virus or other Security software is installed ? Some >> >> >> products ( eTrust 7.x ) can interfere with Pagefile changes. >> >> >> >> >> >> "stgislander" <stgislander@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in >> >> >> message >> >> >> news:B53E6F61-CEDA-48D5-8699-5CF846A27F1E@microsoft.com... >> >> >> > Thanks for the suggestions. I followed your instructions >> >> >> > including >> >> >> > defraging >> >> >> > the volume and trimming some of the Windows components. I did >> >> >> > not >> >> >> > locate >> >> >> > a >> >> >> > \DllCache folder to purge. Even after manually sizing pagefile >> >> >> > to >> >> >> > 256MB >> >> >> > (initial) and 384MB (maximum), I still get the "System Has No >> >> >> > Paging >> >> >> > File >> >> >> > or >> >> >> > the Paging File Is Too Small" error after reboot. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > "R. McCarty" wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Set Pagefile to None, Reboot, Defrag the volume, then set a >> >> >> >> manually >> >> >> >> sized pagefile of say 256 or 384 Megabytes ( Min/Max ). I still >> >> >> >> would >> >> >> >> recommend you use Add/Remove programs ( Windows Components ) >> >> >> >> and then say XPLite to trim back the footprint of XP. You can >> >> >> >> also >> >> >> >> reduce it further if you purge the \DllCache which will recover >> >> >> >> ~500 >> >> >> >> Meg. >> >> >> >> Actually, I'd download and use Perfect Disk 8.0 in both a Boot >> >> >> >> and >> >> >> >> GUI mode pass to get the drive optimized. On several occasions >> >> >> >> I've >> >> >> >> been able to get Windows XP installed/running in a 2.7 Gigabyte >> >> >> >> disk >> >> >> >> footprint. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Perfect Disk 8.0 evaluation versions here: >> >> >> >> http://www.raxco.com/products/downloadit/ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "stgislander" <stgislander@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in >> >> >> >> message >> >> >> >> news:20FB6531-89A7-4886-A602-9EB392306E1F@microsoft.com... >> >> >> >> >I just completed a fresh installation of WinXP and I >> >> >> >> >immediately >> >> >> >> >began >> >> >> >> > getting the "System Has No Paging File or the Paging File Is >> >> >> >> > Too >> >> >> >> > Small" >> >> >> >> > error. Before asking my question I thought I'd review the >> >> >> >> > other >> >> >> >> > posts >> >> >> >> > to >> >> >> >> > see >> >> >> >> > if I could fix the problem. My project requires only the OS >> >> >> >> > and >> >> >> >> > my >> >> >> >> > control >> >> >> >> > application so a small (4GB) removable microdrive was >> >> >> >> > selected. >> >> >> >> > The >> >> >> >> > drive >> >> >> >> > has only one partition. Both files C:\pagefile.sys and >> >> >> >> > C:\windows\system32\temppf.sys were located on the drive. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > I followed the suggestions in KB Article 315270 and ensured >> >> >> >> > that >> >> >> >> > all >> >> >> >> > users >> >> >> >> > (Administrator and one other) has Full Control permissions. I >> >> >> >> > also >> >> >> >> > followed >> >> >> >> > some suggestions from Pegasus about giving everybody full >> >> >> >> > access >> >> >> >> > using >> >> >> >> > the >> >> >> >> > "cacls c: /e /g everyone:F" command, and ensuring that the >> >> >> >> > SYSTEM >> >> >> >> > account >> >> >> >> > has >> >> >> >> > full access to the HKLM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session >> >> >> >> > Manager\Memory >> >> >> >> > Management registry key. I even checked that the "Read-only" >> >> >> >> > box >> >> >> >> > was >> >> >> >> > not >> >> >> >> > checked in the C:\pagefile.sys properties per someones >> >> >> >> > suggestion. >> >> >> >> > Nothing >> >> >> >> > fixed the error. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Finally, following a thought from R. McCarty that the >> >> >> >> > C:\pagefile.sys >> >> >> >> > file >> >> >> >> > might be corrupt, I deleted it thinking that a new file would >> >> >> >> > be >> >> >> >> > created >> >> >> >> > when >> >> >> >> > I set the page file size in Windows >> >> >> >> > Explorer\Properties\Advanced\Performance\Advanced\Virtual >> >> >> >> > Memory. >> >> >> >> > Of >> >> >> >> > course >> >> >> >> > that wasn't the case, and I am unable to copy >> >> >> >> > C:\windows\system32\temppf.sys >> >> >> >> > to the root because the system says the file's in use. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Can anyone offer any assistance? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
Guest stgislander Posted September 13, 2007 Posted September 13, 2007 Re: Another System Has No Paging File or the Paging File Too Small Re: Another System Has No Paging File or the Paging File Too Small System Restore service is disabled, but the pagefile error still occurs. John John stated that Windows does not tolerate pagefiles on removable devices, and that I should set Virtual memory to "no paging file". Your thoughts on that? "R. McCarty" wrote: > Hibernation is OK then, I'd probably just set the Start Mode for the > System Restore service to Disabled ( 4 ). That will ensure that it is > not running. Can be done with Services.Msc. > > "stgislander" <stgislander@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:FBA9D349-3788-40B0-A0A8-28D767B21269@microsoft.com... > > Ok... there is no checkbox to disable System Restore on my System > > Properties > > page. Is there another way to do it? Also, the box for "Enable > > hibernation" > > is not checked. > > > > "R. McCarty" wrote: > > > >> 53 is OK, I'd suggest you either disable System Restore or set it's > >> reserved space to something that might hold 2 restore points, say > >> 500 Megabytes ( Max ). Also someone yesterday mentioned the > >> Hibernation ( Hiberfil.Sys ). I would agree you might want to set > >> Hibernation support to disabled. This would recover disk space = > >> to your Physical RAM count. > >> > >> "stgislander" <stgislander@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> news:C104D431-6A53-4EF7-A23D-1CF60BED01EA@microsoft.com... > >> > There are two errors in this morning's System event log. > >> > > >> > #1 - The System Restore initialization process failed. > >> > #2 - The System Restore Service service terminated with the following > >> > error: > >> > The system cannot find the device specified. > >> > > >> > The time from pressing the ON button to the error message is 53 > >> > seconds. > >> > > >> > "R. McCarty" wrote: > >> > > >> >> OK, that helps. Have you checked the System Event Log ? you > >> >> may have startup issues. Speaking of that what sort of boot time > >> >> are you getting ? > >> >> Event Log, Click Start, Run (type) EventVwr.Msc [Enter] > >> >> Expand the System Log in the Left pane, check Right Pane for > >> >> red icons that denote errors. > >> >> > >> >> "stgislander" <stgislander@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> >> news:686E6B2C-359D-4D27-95B3-540428E18219@microsoft.com... > >> >> > There is no anti-virus or other security software installed. This > >> >> > is a > >> >> > new, > >> >> > fresh OS installation. > >> >> > > >> >> > "R. McCarty" wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> To purge \DllCache, open Command prompt window and type > >> >> >> SFC \PurgeCache [Enter] > >> >> >> What Anti-Virus or other Security software is installed ? Some > >> >> >> products ( eTrust 7.x ) can interfere with Pagefile changes. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> "stgislander" <stgislander@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in > >> >> >> message > >> >> >> news:B53E6F61-CEDA-48D5-8699-5CF846A27F1E@microsoft.com... > >> >> >> > Thanks for the suggestions. I followed your instructions > >> >> >> > including > >> >> >> > defraging > >> >> >> > the volume and trimming some of the Windows components. I did > >> >> >> > not > >> >> >> > locate > >> >> >> > a > >> >> >> > \DllCache folder to purge. Even after manually sizing pagefile > >> >> >> > to > >> >> >> > 256MB > >> >> >> > (initial) and 384MB (maximum), I still get the "System Has No > >> >> >> > Paging > >> >> >> > File > >> >> >> > or > >> >> >> > the Paging File Is Too Small" error after reboot. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > "R. McCarty" wrote: > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> Set Pagefile to None, Reboot, Defrag the volume, then set a > >> >> >> >> manually > >> >> >> >> sized pagefile of say 256 or 384 Megabytes ( Min/Max ). I still > >> >> >> >> would > >> >> >> >> recommend you use Add/Remove programs ( Windows Components ) > >> >> >> >> and then say XPLite to trim back the footprint of XP. You can > >> >> >> >> also > >> >> >> >> reduce it further if you purge the \DllCache which will recover > >> >> >> >> ~500 > >> >> >> >> Meg. > >> >> >> >> Actually, I'd download and use Perfect Disk 8.0 in both a Boot > >> >> >> >> and > >> >> >> >> GUI mode pass to get the drive optimized. On several occasions > >> >> >> >> I've > >> >> >> >> been able to get Windows XP installed/running in a 2.7 Gigabyte > >> >> >> >> disk > >> >> >> >> footprint. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Perfect Disk 8.0 evaluation versions here: > >> >> >> >> http://www.raxco.com/products/downloadit/ > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> "stgislander" <stgislander@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in > >> >> >> >> message > >> >> >> >> news:20FB6531-89A7-4886-A602-9EB392306E1F@microsoft.com... > >> >> >> >> >I just completed a fresh installation of WinXP and I > >> >> >> >> >immediately > >> >> >> >> >began > >> >> >> >> > getting the "System Has No Paging File or the Paging File Is > >> >> >> >> > Too > >> >> >> >> > Small" > >> >> >> >> > error. Before asking my question I thought I'd review the > >> >> >> >> > other > >> >> >> >> > posts > >> >> >> >> > to > >> >> >> >> > see > >> >> >> >> > if I could fix the problem. My project requires only the OS > >> >> >> >> > and > >> >> >> >> > my > >> >> >> >> > control > >> >> >> >> > application so a small (4GB) removable microdrive was > >> >> >> >> > selected. > >> >> >> >> > The > >> >> >> >> > drive > >> >> >> >> > has only one partition. Both files C:\pagefile.sys and > >> >> >> >> > C:\windows\system32\temppf.sys were located on the drive. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > I followed the suggestions in KB Article 315270 and ensured > >> >> >> >> > that > >> >> >> >> > all > >> >> >> >> > users > >> >> >> >> > (Administrator and one other) has Full Control permissions. I > >> >> >> >> > also > >> >> >> >> > followed > >> >> >> >> > some suggestions from Pegasus about giving everybody full > >> >> >> >> > access > >> >> >> >> > using > >> >> >> >> > the > >> >> >> >> > "cacls c: /e /g everyone:F" command, and ensuring that the > >> >> >> >> > SYSTEM > >> >> >> >> > account > >> >> >> >> > has > >> >> >> >> > full access to the HKLM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session > >> >> >> >> > Manager\Memory > >> >> >> >> > Management registry key. I even checked that the "Read-only" > >> >> >> >> > box > >> >> >> >> > was > >> >> >> >> > not > >> >> >> >> > checked in the C:\pagefile.sys properties per someones > >> >> >> >> > suggestion. > >> >> >> >> > Nothing > >> >> >> >> > fixed the error. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > Finally, following a thought from R. McCarty that the > >> >> >> >> > C:\pagefile.sys > >> >> >> >> > file > >> >> >> >> > might be corrupt, I deleted it thinking that a new file would > >> >> >> >> > be > >> >> >> >> > created > >> >> >> >> > when > >> >> >> >> > I set the page file size in Windows > >> >> >> >> > Explorer\Properties\Advanced\Performance\Advanced\Virtual > >> >> >> >> > Memory. > >> >> >> >> > Of > >> >> >> >> > course > >> >> >> >> > that wasn't the case, and I am unable to copy > >> >> >> >> > C:\windows\system32\temppf.sys > >> >> >> >> > to the root because the system says the file's in use. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > Can anyone offer any assistance? > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > >> > >> > > >
Guest R. McCarty Posted September 13, 2007 Posted September 13, 2007 Re: Another System Has No Paging File or the Paging File Too Small Re: Another System Has No Paging File or the Paging File Too Small No Pagefile would prevent any System Dump operations. Not a major issue but could make system instabilities harder to isolate. I guess you could get away with no Pagefile but that depends on how much physical RAM the PC has to work with. If this is an embedded solution, how much loading ( RAM / CPU resources ) is required for normal operation? My other concern would be Temp space. If the 4-Gigabyte drive is the only mass storage available to XP you'd want to closely monitor and maintain the Temp folders. "stgislander" <stgislander@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:C241C552-1901-49D4-BF51-2E377EE76716@microsoft.com... > System Restore service is disabled, but the pagefile error still occurs. > > John John stated that Windows does not tolerate pagefiles on removable > devices, and that I should set Virtual memory to "no paging file". Your > thoughts on that? > > "R. McCarty" wrote: > >> Hibernation is OK then, I'd probably just set the Start Mode for the >> System Restore service to Disabled ( 4 ). That will ensure that it is >> not running. Can be done with Services.Msc. >> >> "stgislander" <stgislander@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:FBA9D349-3788-40B0-A0A8-28D767B21269@microsoft.com... >> > Ok... there is no checkbox to disable System Restore on my System >> > Properties >> > page. Is there another way to do it? Also, the box for "Enable >> > hibernation" >> > is not checked. >> > >> > "R. McCarty" wrote: >> > >> >> 53 is OK, I'd suggest you either disable System Restore or set it's >> >> reserved space to something that might hold 2 restore points, say >> >> 500 Megabytes ( Max ). Also someone yesterday mentioned the >> >> Hibernation ( Hiberfil.Sys ). I would agree you might want to set >> >> Hibernation support to disabled. This would recover disk space = >> >> to your Physical RAM count. >> >> >> >> "stgislander" <stgislander@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> >> news:C104D431-6A53-4EF7-A23D-1CF60BED01EA@microsoft.com... >> >> > There are two errors in this morning's System event log. >> >> > >> >> > #1 - The System Restore initialization process failed. >> >> > #2 - The System Restore Service service terminated with the >> >> > following >> >> > error: >> >> > The system cannot find the device specified. >> >> > >> >> > The time from pressing the ON button to the error message is 53 >> >> > seconds. >> >> > >> >> > "R. McCarty" wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> OK, that helps. Have you checked the System Event Log ? you >> >> >> may have startup issues. Speaking of that what sort of boot time >> >> >> are you getting ? >> >> >> Event Log, Click Start, Run (type) EventVwr.Msc [Enter] >> >> >> Expand the System Log in the Left pane, check Right Pane for >> >> >> red icons that denote errors. >> >> >> >> >> >> "stgislander" <stgislander@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in >> >> >> message >> >> >> news:686E6B2C-359D-4D27-95B3-540428E18219@microsoft.com... >> >> >> > There is no anti-virus or other security software installed. >> >> >> > This >> >> >> > is a >> >> >> > new, >> >> >> > fresh OS installation. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > "R. McCarty" wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> To purge \DllCache, open Command prompt window and type >> >> >> >> SFC \PurgeCache [Enter] >> >> >> >> What Anti-Virus or other Security software is installed ? Some >> >> >> >> products ( eTrust 7.x ) can interfere with Pagefile changes. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "stgislander" <stgislander@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in >> >> >> >> message >> >> >> >> news:B53E6F61-CEDA-48D5-8699-5CF846A27F1E@microsoft.com... >> >> >> >> > Thanks for the suggestions. I followed your instructions >> >> >> >> > including >> >> >> >> > defraging >> >> >> >> > the volume and trimming some of the Windows components. I did >> >> >> >> > not >> >> >> >> > locate >> >> >> >> > a >> >> >> >> > \DllCache folder to purge. Even after manually sizing >> >> >> >> > pagefile >> >> >> >> > to >> >> >> >> > 256MB >> >> >> >> > (initial) and 384MB (maximum), I still get the "System Has No >> >> >> >> > Paging >> >> >> >> > File >> >> >> >> > or >> >> >> >> > the Paging File Is Too Small" error after reboot. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > "R. McCarty" wrote: >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> Set Pagefile to None, Reboot, Defrag the volume, then set a >> >> >> >> >> manually >> >> >> >> >> sized pagefile of say 256 or 384 Megabytes ( Min/Max ). I >> >> >> >> >> still >> >> >> >> >> would >> >> >> >> >> recommend you use Add/Remove programs ( Windows Components ) >> >> >> >> >> and then say XPLite to trim back the footprint of XP. You can >> >> >> >> >> also >> >> >> >> >> reduce it further if you purge the \DllCache which will >> >> >> >> >> recover >> >> >> >> >> ~500 >> >> >> >> >> Meg. >> >> >> >> >> Actually, I'd download and use Perfect Disk 8.0 in both a >> >> >> >> >> Boot >> >> >> >> >> and >> >> >> >> >> GUI mode pass to get the drive optimized. On several >> >> >> >> >> occasions >> >> >> >> >> I've >> >> >> >> >> been able to get Windows XP installed/running in a 2.7 >> >> >> >> >> Gigabyte >> >> >> >> >> disk >> >> >> >> >> footprint. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Perfect Disk 8.0 evaluation versions here: >> >> >> >> >> http://www.raxco.com/products/downloadit/ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "stgislander" <stgislander@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote >> >> >> >> >> in >> >> >> >> >> message >> >> >> >> >> news:20FB6531-89A7-4886-A602-9EB392306E1F@microsoft.com... >> >> >> >> >> >I just completed a fresh installation of WinXP and I >> >> >> >> >> >immediately >> >> >> >> >> >began >> >> >> >> >> > getting the "System Has No Paging File or the Paging File >> >> >> >> >> > Is >> >> >> >> >> > Too >> >> >> >> >> > Small" >> >> >> >> >> > error. Before asking my question I thought I'd review the >> >> >> >> >> > other >> >> >> >> >> > posts >> >> >> >> >> > to >> >> >> >> >> > see >> >> >> >> >> > if I could fix the problem. My project requires only the >> >> >> >> >> > OS >> >> >> >> >> > and >> >> >> >> >> > my >> >> >> >> >> > control >> >> >> >> >> > application so a small (4GB) removable microdrive was >> >> >> >> >> > selected. >> >> >> >> >> > The >> >> >> >> >> > drive >> >> >> >> >> > has only one partition. Both files C:\pagefile.sys and >> >> >> >> >> > C:\windows\system32\temppf.sys were located on the drive. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > I followed the suggestions in KB Article 315270 and ensured >> >> >> >> >> > that >> >> >> >> >> > all >> >> >> >> >> > users >> >> >> >> >> > (Administrator and one other) has Full Control permissions. >> >> >> >> >> > I >> >> >> >> >> > also >> >> >> >> >> > followed >> >> >> >> >> > some suggestions from Pegasus about giving everybody full >> >> >> >> >> > access >> >> >> >> >> > using >> >> >> >> >> > the >> >> >> >> >> > "cacls c: /e /g everyone:F" command, and ensuring that the >> >> >> >> >> > SYSTEM >> >> >> >> >> > account >> >> >> >> >> > has >> >> >> >> >> > full access to the HKLM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session >> >> >> >> >> > Manager\Memory >> >> >> >> >> > Management registry key. I even checked that the >> >> >> >> >> > "Read-only" >> >> >> >> >> > box >> >> >> >> >> > was >> >> >> >> >> > not >> >> >> >> >> > checked in the C:\pagefile.sys properties per someones >> >> >> >> >> > suggestion. >> >> >> >> >> > Nothing >> >> >> >> >> > fixed the error. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > Finally, following a thought from R. McCarty that the >> >> >> >> >> > C:\pagefile.sys >> >> >> >> >> > file >> >> >> >> >> > might be corrupt, I deleted it thinking that a new file >> >> >> >> >> > would >> >> >> >> >> > be >> >> >> >> >> > created >> >> >> >> >> > when >> >> >> >> >> > I set the page file size in Windows >> >> >> >> >> > Explorer\Properties\Advanced\Performance\Advanced\Virtual >> >> >> >> >> > Memory. >> >> >> >> >> > Of >> >> >> >> >> > course >> >> >> >> >> > that wasn't the case, and I am unable to copy >> >> >> >> >> > C:\windows\system32\temppf.sys >> >> >> >> >> > to the root because the system says the file's in use. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > Can anyone offer any assistance? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
Guest stgislander Posted September 13, 2007 Posted September 13, 2007 Re: Another System Has No Paging File or the Paging File Too Small Re: Another System Has No Paging File or the Paging File Too Small The PC currently has 1GB RAM... originally it had 2GB. The old application software was pretty easy on RAM and CPU resourses, but I don't have the numbers off the top of my head. As soon as I get the new application software from the developer, I check the RAM/CPU loading. Same goes with the Temp folders. Thanks for the assistance. "R. McCarty" wrote: > No Pagefile would prevent any System Dump operations. Not a major > issue but could make system instabilities harder to isolate. I guess you > could get away with no Pagefile but that depends on how much physical > RAM the PC has to work with. If this is an embedded solution, how > much loading ( RAM / CPU resources ) is required for normal operation? > My other concern would be Temp space. If the 4-Gigabyte drive is the > only mass storage available to XP you'd want to closely monitor and > maintain the Temp folders. > > "stgislander" <stgislander@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:C241C552-1901-49D4-BF51-2E377EE76716@microsoft.com... > > System Restore service is disabled, but the pagefile error still occurs. > > > > John John stated that Windows does not tolerate pagefiles on removable > > devices, and that I should set Virtual memory to "no paging file". Your > > thoughts on that? > > > > "R. McCarty" wrote: > > > >> Hibernation is OK then, I'd probably just set the Start Mode for the > >> System Restore service to Disabled ( 4 ). That will ensure that it is > >> not running. Can be done with Services.Msc. > >> > >> "stgislander" <stgislander@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> news:FBA9D349-3788-40B0-A0A8-28D767B21269@microsoft.com... > >> > Ok... there is no checkbox to disable System Restore on my System > >> > Properties > >> > page. Is there another way to do it? Also, the box for "Enable > >> > hibernation" > >> > is not checked. > >> > > >> > "R. McCarty" wrote: > >> > > >> >> 53 is OK, I'd suggest you either disable System Restore or set it's > >> >> reserved space to something that might hold 2 restore points, say > >> >> 500 Megabytes ( Max ). Also someone yesterday mentioned the > >> >> Hibernation ( Hiberfil.Sys ). I would agree you might want to set > >> >> Hibernation support to disabled. This would recover disk space = > >> >> to your Physical RAM count. > >> >> > >> >> "stgislander" <stgislander@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> >> news:C104D431-6A53-4EF7-A23D-1CF60BED01EA@microsoft.com... > >> >> > There are two errors in this morning's System event log. > >> >> > > >> >> > #1 - The System Restore initialization process failed. > >> >> > #2 - The System Restore Service service terminated with the > >> >> > following > >> >> > error: > >> >> > The system cannot find the device specified. > >> >> > > >> >> > The time from pressing the ON button to the error message is 53 > >> >> > seconds. > >> >> > > >> >> > "R. McCarty" wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> OK, that helps. Have you checked the System Event Log ? you > >> >> >> may have startup issues. Speaking of that what sort of boot time > >> >> >> are you getting ? > >> >> >> Event Log, Click Start, Run (type) EventVwr.Msc [Enter] > >> >> >> Expand the System Log in the Left pane, check Right Pane for > >> >> >> red icons that denote errors. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> "stgislander" <stgislander@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in > >> >> >> message > >> >> >> news:686E6B2C-359D-4D27-95B3-540428E18219@microsoft.com... > >> >> >> > There is no anti-virus or other security software installed. > >> >> >> > This > >> >> >> > is a > >> >> >> > new, > >> >> >> > fresh OS installation. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > "R. McCarty" wrote: > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> To purge \DllCache, open Command prompt window and type > >> >> >> >> SFC \PurgeCache [Enter] > >> >> >> >> What Anti-Virus or other Security software is installed ? Some > >> >> >> >> products ( eTrust 7.x ) can interfere with Pagefile changes. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> "stgislander" <stgislander@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in > >> >> >> >> message > >> >> >> >> news:B53E6F61-CEDA-48D5-8699-5CF846A27F1E@microsoft.com... > >> >> >> >> > Thanks for the suggestions. I followed your instructions > >> >> >> >> > including > >> >> >> >> > defraging > >> >> >> >> > the volume and trimming some of the Windows components. I did > >> >> >> >> > not > >> >> >> >> > locate > >> >> >> >> > a > >> >> >> >> > \DllCache folder to purge. Even after manually sizing > >> >> >> >> > pagefile > >> >> >> >> > to > >> >> >> >> > 256MB > >> >> >> >> > (initial) and 384MB (maximum), I still get the "System Has No > >> >> >> >> > Paging > >> >> >> >> > File > >> >> >> >> > or > >> >> >> >> > the Paging File Is Too Small" error after reboot. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > "R. McCarty" wrote: > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> Set Pagefile to None, Reboot, Defrag the volume, then set a > >> >> >> >> >> manually > >> >> >> >> >> sized pagefile of say 256 or 384 Megabytes ( Min/Max ). I > >> >> >> >> >> still > >> >> >> >> >> would > >> >> >> >> >> recommend you use Add/Remove programs ( Windows Components ) > >> >> >> >> >> and then say XPLite to trim back the footprint of XP. You can > >> >> >> >> >> also > >> >> >> >> >> reduce it further if you purge the \DllCache which will > >> >> >> >> >> recover > >> >> >> >> >> ~500 > >> >> >> >> >> Meg. > >> >> >> >> >> Actually, I'd download and use Perfect Disk 8.0 in both a > >> >> >> >> >> Boot > >> >> >> >> >> and > >> >> >> >> >> GUI mode pass to get the drive optimized. On several > >> >> >> >> >> occasions > >> >> >> >> >> I've > >> >> >> >> >> been able to get Windows XP installed/running in a 2.7 > >> >> >> >> >> Gigabyte > >> >> >> >> >> disk > >> >> >> >> >> footprint. > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> Perfect Disk 8.0 evaluation versions here: > >> >> >> >> >> http://www.raxco.com/products/downloadit/ > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> "stgislander" <stgislander@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote > >> >> >> >> >> in > >> >> >> >> >> message > >> >> >> >> >> news:20FB6531-89A7-4886-A602-9EB392306E1F@microsoft.com... > >> >> >> >> >> >I just completed a fresh installation of WinXP and I > >> >> >> >> >> >immediately > >> >> >> >> >> >began > >> >> >> >> >> > getting the "System Has No Paging File or the Paging File > >> >> >> >> >> > Is > >> >> >> >> >> > Too > >> >> >> >> >> > Small" > >> >> >> >> >> > error. Before asking my question I thought I'd review the > >> >> >> >> >> > other > >> >> >> >> >> > posts > >> >> >> >> >> > to > >> >> >> >> >> > see > >> >> >> >> >> > if I could fix the problem. My project requires only the > >> >> >> >> >> > OS > >> >> >> >> >> > and > >> >> >> >> >> > my > >> >> >> >> >> > control > >> >> >> >> >> > application so a small (4GB) removable microdrive was > >> >> >> >> >> > selected. > >> >> >> >> >> > The > >> >> >> >> >> > drive > >> >> >> >> >> > has only one partition. Both files C:\pagefile.sys and > >> >> >> >> >> > C:\windows\system32\temppf.sys were located on the drive. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > I followed the suggestions in KB Article 315270 and ensured > >> >> >> >> >> > that > >> >> >> >> >> > all > >> >> >> >> >> > users > >> >> >> >> >> > (Administrator and one other) has Full Control permissions. > >> >> >> >> >> > I > >> >> >> >> >> > also > >> >> >> >> >> > followed > >> >> >> >> >> > some suggestions from Pegasus about giving everybody full > >> >> >> >> >> > access > >> >> >> >> >> > using > >> >> >> >> >> > the > >> >> >> >> >> > "cacls c: /e /g everyone:F" command, and ensuring that the > >> >> >> >> >> > SYSTEM > >> >> >> >> >> > account > >> >> >> >> >> > has > >> >> >> >> >> > full access to the HKLM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session > >> >> >> >> >> > Manager\Memory > >> >> >> >> >> > Management registry key. I even checked that the > >> >> >> >> >> > "Read-only" > >> >> >> >> >> > box > >> >> >> >> >> > was > >> >> >> >> >> > not > >> >> >> >> >> > checked in the C:\pagefile.sys properties per someones > >> >> >> >> >> > suggestion. > >> >> >> >> >> > Nothing > >> >> >> >> >> > fixed the error. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > Finally, following a thought from R. McCarty that the > >> >> >> >> >> > C:\pagefile.sys > >> >> >> >> >> > file > >> >> >> >> >> > might be corrupt, I deleted it thinking that a new file > >> >> >> >> >> > would > >> >> >> >> >> > be > >> >> >> >> >> > created > >> >> >> >> >> > when > >> >> >> >> >> > I set the page file size in Windows > >> >> >> >> >> > Explorer\Properties\Advanced\Performance\Advanced\Virtual > >> >> >> >> >> > Memory. > >> >> >> >> >> > Of > >> >> >> >> >> > course > >> >> >> >> >> > that wasn't the case, and I am unable to copy > >> >> >> >> >> > C:\windows\system32\temppf.sys > >> >> >> >> >> > to the root because the system says the file's in use. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > Can anyone offer any assistance? > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > >> > >> > > >
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