Guest Mark G. Posted September 14, 2007 Posted September 14, 2007 In the past with my hardware upgrades I have had a combination of IDE and SATA hard drives. Seems everytime I decide to do a fresh install of XP, I would run into an issue with trying to set a SATA drive as the first drive or the drive I in install windows on. With my new hardware, all I will be running is SATA drives, no more IDE's with the exception of plugging one in to retrieve some data after the initial reinstall. So with the newer motherboards and where XP is concerned, is this an issue with this new technology? What I mean is, do you still have to go through the route of providing the SIL drivers when you get to that point in the install? Just curious since it has been a couple of years since I have had a new motherboard and I do not recall if this was a limitation of windows or of the hardware itself. Thanks much for any input!
Guest peter Posted September 14, 2007 Posted September 14, 2007 Re: Install on SATA only Yes to be on the safe side you will need to place your MoBo SATA drivers on a floppy and during the installation process let XP find and install..F6 need to be pushed for this to happen. peter "Mark G." <askmefirst@comcast.net> wrote in message news:uBw5Eap9HHA.4200@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > In the past with my hardware upgrades I have had a combination of IDE and > SATA hard drives. Seems everytime I decide to do a fresh install of XP, I > would run into an issue with trying to set a SATA drive as the first drive > or the drive I in install windows on. With my new hardware, all I will be > running is SATA drives, no more IDE's with the exception of plugging one > in to retrieve some data after the initial reinstall. So with the newer > motherboards and where XP is concerned, is this an issue with this new > technology? What I mean is, do you still have to go through the route of > providing the SIL drivers when you get to that point in the install? Just > curious since it has been a couple of years since I have had a new > motherboard and I do not recall if this was a limitation of windows or of > the hardware itself. Thanks much for any input! >
Guest Timothy Daniels Posted September 14, 2007 Posted September 14, 2007 Re: Install on SATA only Hmmm.... "floppy"? What's a floppy? Maybe you meant "CD"? *TimDaniels* "peter" wrote: > Yes to be on the safe side you will need to place your MoBo SATA > drivers on a floppy and during the installation process let XP find and > install..F6 need to be pushed for this to happen. > peter > "Mark G." wrote: >> In the past with my hardware upgrades I have had a combination >> of IDE and SATA hard drives. Seems everytime I decide to do a >> fresh install of XP, I would run into an issue with trying to set a >> SATA drive as the first drive or the drive I in install windows on. >> With my new hardware, all I will be running is SATA drives, no more >> IDE's with the exception of plugging one in to retrieve some data after >> the initial reinstall. So with the newer motherboards and where XP >> is concerned, is this an issue with this new technology? What I mean is, >> do you still have to go through the route of providing the SIL drivers >> when you get to that point in the install? Just curious since it has been >> a couple of years since I have had a new motherboard and I do not >> recall if this was a limitation of windows or of the hardware itself. >> Thanks much for any input! >> >
Guest Homer J. Simpson Posted September 14, 2007 Posted September 14, 2007 Re: Install on SATA only > Hmmm.... "floppy"? What's a floppy? Maybe you meant "CD"? Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the F6 custom driver option *still* to this day only look for floppies?
Guest peter Posted September 14, 2007 Posted September 14, 2007 Re: Install on SATA only yes it does.....XP will only search the floppy drive during the installation. peter "Homer J. Simpson" <root@127.0.0.1> wrote in message news:O2ImcVw9HHA.5424@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> Hmmm.... "floppy"? What's a floppy? Maybe you meant "CD"? > > Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the F6 custom driver option *still* > to this day only look for floppies? > >
Guest Timothy Daniels Posted September 15, 2007 Posted September 15, 2007 Re: Install on SATA only "peter" wrote: > "Homer J. Simpson" wrote: >>> Hmmm.... "floppy"? What's a floppy? Maybe you meant "CD"? >> >> Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the F6 custom driver option *still* to >> this day only look for floppies? >> > yes it does.....XP will only search the floppy drive during the installation. > peter And what if there is no floppy drive (whatever THAT is). ;-) *TimDaniels*
Guest peter Posted September 15, 2007 Posted September 15, 2007 Re: Install on SATA only Then you have a couple of choices........ ..go buy one or slipstream the SATA drivers into your XP CD Any thing else I can help you with ?? peter "Timothy Daniels" <NoSpam@SpamMeNot.com> wrote in message news:%23nNWJ1y9HHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > "peter" wrote: >> "Homer J. Simpson" wrote: >>>> Hmmm.... "floppy"? What's a floppy? Maybe you meant "CD"? >>> >>> Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the F6 custom driver option *still* >>> to this day only look for floppies? >>> >> yes it does.....XP will only search the floppy drive during the >> installation. >> peter > > And what if there is no floppy drive (whatever THAT is). ;-) > > *TimDaniels* >
Guest Edward W. Thompson Posted September 15, 2007 Posted September 15, 2007 Re: Install on SATA only "peter" <peter@nowhere.net> wrote in message news:egebH$t9HHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Yes to be on the safe side you will need to place your MoBo SATA drivers > on a floppy and during the installation process let XP find and > install..F6 need to be pushed for this to happen. > peter > "Mark G." <askmefirst@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:uBw5Eap9HHA.4200@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> In the past with my hardware upgrades I have had a combination of IDE and >> SATA hard drives. Seems everytime I decide to do a fresh install of XP, I >> would run into an issue with trying to set a SATA drive as the first >> drive or the drive I in install windows on. With my new hardware, all I >> will be running is SATA drives, no more IDE's with the exception of >> plugging one in to retrieve some data after the initial reinstall. So >> with the newer motherboards and where XP is concerned, is this an issue >> with this new technology? What I mean is, do you still have to go through >> the route of providing the SIL drivers when you get to that point in the >> install? Just curious since it has been a couple of years since I have >> had a new motherboard and I do not recall if this was a limitation of >> windows or of the hardware itself. Thanks much for any input! >> Are you sure that modern 'SATA' only motherboards require SATA drivers to be loaded from a floppy? It was my understanding that the SATA drivers are encoded in the chipset drivers. I acknowledge you did put 'on the safe side' in your response but I doubt if SATA drivers have to be loaded discretely for new boards that is.
Guest Andy Posted September 15, 2007 Posted September 15, 2007 Re: Install on SATA only On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 23:15:07 -0700, "Mark G." <askmefirst@comcast.net> wrote: >In the past with my hardware upgrades I have had a combination of IDE and >SATA hard drives. Seems everytime I decide to do a fresh install of XP, I >would run into an issue with trying to set a SATA drive as the first drive >or the drive I in install windows on. With my new hardware, all I will be >running is SATA drives, no more IDE's with the exception of plugging one in >to retrieve some data after the initial reinstall. So with the newer >motherboards and where XP is concerned, is this an issue with this new >technology? What I mean is, do you still have to go through the route of >providing the SIL drivers when you get to that point in the install? Just >curious since it has been a couple of years since I have had a new >motherboard and I do not recall if this was a limitation of windows or of >the hardware itself. Thanks much for any input! > Sounds like you're talking about two different issues: setting the first drive and having to load device drivers. The motherboard BIOS arranges the disk drives in some default order, but provides the ability to rearrange the drive order via BIOS setup. You only have to load the SIL drivers during Windows setup if the SATA disk is connected to a SIL SATA interface. If the drive is connected to the chipset SATA interface, you most likely will not have to load any driver during setup.
Guest dobey Posted September 15, 2007 Posted September 15, 2007 Re: Install on SATA only If the system chipset controls the SATA drives, then he won't need a floppy. If the SATA controller is a third party chip, like Jmicron or Silicon Image he probably will need the floppy. F6 is easy to miss as it is at the beginning of the install process. "peter" <peter@nowhere.net> wrote in message news:egebH$t9HHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Yes to be on the safe side you will need to place your MoBo SATA drivers > on a floppy and during the installation process let XP find and > install..F6 need to be pushed for this to happen. > peter > "Mark G." <askmefirst@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:uBw5Eap9HHA.4200@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> In the past with my hardware upgrades I have had a combination of IDE and >> SATA hard drives. Seems everytime I decide to do a fresh install of XP, I >> would run into an issue with trying to set a SATA drive as the first >> drive or the drive I in install windows on. With my new hardware, all I >> will be running is SATA drives, no more IDE's with the exception of >> plugging one in to retrieve some data after the initial reinstall. So >> with the newer motherboards and where XP is concerned, is this an issue >> with this new technology? What I mean is, do you still have to go through >> the route of providing the SIL drivers when you get to that point in the >> install? Just curious since it has been a couple of years since I have >> had a new motherboard and I do not recall if this was a limitation of >> windows or of the hardware itself. Thanks much for any input! >> >
Guest Timothy Daniels Posted September 15, 2007 Posted September 15, 2007 Re: Install on SATA only "peter" wrote: > "Timothy Daniels" wrote: >> "peter" wrote: >>> "Homer J. Simpson" wrote: >>>>> Hmmm.... "floppy"? What's a floppy? Maybe you meant "CD"? >>>> >>>> Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the F6 custom driver option *still* to >>>> this day only look for floppies? >>>> >>> yes it does.....XP will only search the floppy drive during the >>> installation. >>> peter >> >> And what if there is no floppy drive (whatever THAT is). ;-) >> >> *TimDaniels* >> > Then you have a couple of choices........ > .go buy one or slipstream the SATA drivers into your XP CD > Any thing else I can help you with ?? > peter I'm not the OP who needs the help. The OP stated: "So with the newer motherboards and where XP is concerned, is this an issue with this new technology?" With a "newer motherboard", there may be no floppy controller. That's where he may need your advice. *TimDaniels*
Guest peter Posted September 15, 2007 Posted September 15, 2007 Re: Install on SATA only Mark did not give us the name of his mobo and by his question he still has a mobo with both SATA and PATA connectors. My latest install on a Gigabyte GA-N650SLI-DS4 which has 4 SATA and 2 PATA required me to use the floppy method. Yes...some of the newer mobo do not require you to use the floppy .......but some still do and as such with a generic question such as posted by Mark it is better to be prepared for the floppy than have the person attempt his install only to find out he needs the floppy ... peter "Edward W. Thompson" <thomeduk1@btopenworld.com> wrote in message news:uJph6f19HHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > > "peter" <peter@nowhere.net> wrote in message > news:egebH$t9HHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> Yes to be on the safe side you will need to place your MoBo SATA drivers >> on a floppy and during the installation process let XP find and >> install..F6 need to be pushed for this to happen. >> peter >> "Mark G." <askmefirst@comcast.net> wrote in message >> news:uBw5Eap9HHA.4200@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>> In the past with my hardware upgrades I have had a combination of IDE >>> and SATA hard drives. Seems everytime I decide to do a fresh install of >>> XP, I would run into an issue with trying to set a SATA drive as the >>> first drive or the drive I in install windows on. With my new hardware, >>> all I will be running is SATA drives, no more IDE's with the exception >>> of plugging one in to retrieve some data after the initial reinstall. So >>> with the newer motherboards and where XP is concerned, is this an issue >>> with this new technology? What I mean is, do you still have to go >>> through the route of providing the SIL drivers when you get to that >>> point in the install? Just curious since it has been a couple of years >>> since I have had a new motherboard and I do not recall if this was a >>> limitation of windows or of the hardware itself. Thanks much for any >>> input! >>> > Are you sure that modern 'SATA' only motherboards require SATA drivers to > be loaded from a floppy? It was my understanding that the SATA drivers > are encoded in the chipset drivers. > > I acknowledge you did put 'on the safe side' in your response but I doubt > if SATA drivers have to be loaded discretely for new boards that is. >
Guest Timothy Daniels Posted September 16, 2007 Posted September 16, 2007 Re: Install on SATA only "peter" wrote: > Yes...some of the newer mobo do not require you to use the floppy ... Because those don't provide a floppy controller nor a floppy connector on the board. > ....but some still do and as such with a generic question such as > posted by Mark it is better to be prepared for the floppy than > have the person attempt his install only to find out he needs the floppy ... Since Mark didn't specify which is the case, the reply with the most general application would be slipstreaming on a CD. That would work if there was a floppy controller and a floppy drive or not. *TimDaniels*
Guest Paul Knudsen Posted September 22, 2007 Posted September 22, 2007 Re: Install on SATA only On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 06:19:00 +0100, "Edward W. Thompson" <thomeduk1@btopenworld.com> wrote: >Are you sure that modern 'SATA' only motherboards require SATA drivers to be >loaded from a floppy? It was my understanding that the SATA drivers are >encoded in the chipset drivers. It's my understanding that XP SP2 supports SATA and no driver installation is needed. -- Top 10 Conservative Idiots: http://journals.democraticunderground.com/top10
Guest Homer J. Simpson Posted September 23, 2007 Posted September 23, 2007 Re: Install on SATA only >>> And what if there is no floppy drive (whatever THAT is). ;-) You temporarily hook up one and throw it back in the old parts bin once you're done. :-) > With a "newer motherboard", there may be no floppy > controller. That's where he may need your advice. I've yet to encounter a motherboard that doesn't have a floppy controller, but then again, I don't order motherboards on a weekly basis. Are you speaking hypothetically, or can you provide a link?
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