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Guest roman modic
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Re: Win 98 Continues to Get Better Every Year

 

Hello!

 

"smith" <smith3@nospam3.com> wrote in message news:uRVkIJq9HHA.600@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> c/o http://windowssecrets.com/comp/070913

>

> about system files getting updated with automatic update turned

> off.

 

Explanation (but IMHO not good enough):

http://blogs.technet.com/mu/archive/2007/09/13/how-windows-update-keeps-itself-up-to-date.aspx

 

There should be UI checkbox to completely disable Windows Update subsystem

in System Properties -> Automatic Updates tab!

 

Roman

Posted

Re: Win 98 Continues to Get Better Every Year

 

Huh, I thought Windows ME was the first Microsoft os to get automatic updates?

 

"roman modic" wrote:

> Hello!

>

> "smith" <smith3@nospam3.com> wrote in message news:uRVkIJq9HHA.600@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> > c/o http://windowssecrets.com/comp/070913

> >

> > about system files getting updated with automatic update turned

> > off.

>

> Explanation (but IMHO not good enough):

> http://blogs.technet.com/mu/archive/2007/09/13/how-windows-update-keeps-itself-up-to-date.aspx

>

> There should be UI checkbox to completely disable Windows Update subsystem

> in System Properties -> Automatic Updates tab!

>

> Roman

>

>

>

>

Posted

Re: Win 98 Continues to Get Better Every Year

 

roman modic wrote:

> Hello!

>

> "smith" <smith3@nospam3.com> wrote in message

> news:uRVkIJq9HHA.600@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> c/o http://windowssecrets.com/comp/070913

>>

>> about system files getting updated with automatic update turned

>> off.

>

> Explanation (but IMHO not good enough):

> http://blogs.technet.com/mu/archive/2007/09/13/how-windows-update-keeps-itself-up-to-date.aspx

>

> There should be UI checkbox to completely disable Windows Update subsystem

> in System Properties -> Automatic Updates tab!

 

See this discussion: http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=29171

 

The Automatic Update /service/ has nothing to do with Automatic Updates

settings.

--

~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)

MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User) since 2002

AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net; DTS-L http://dts-l.org/

Posted

Re: Win 98 Continues to Get Better Every Year

 

Yes, but see http://support.microsoft.com/kb/224420. The Windows Critical

Update Notification utility could be installed in Win98 to notify the user

of available updates. Note that it does/did not /install/ any updates.

--

~PA Bear

 

Dan wrote:

> Huh, I thought Windows ME was the first Microsoft os to get automatic

> updates?

>

> "roman modic" wrote:

>

>> Hello!

>>

>> "smith" <smith3@nospam3.com> wrote in message

>> news:uRVkIJq9HHA.600@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>> c/o http://windowssecrets.com/comp/070913

>>>

>>> about system files getting updated with automatic update turned

>>> off.

>>

>> Explanation (but IMHO not good enough):

>> http://blogs.technet.com/mu/archive/2007/09/13/how-windows-update-keeps-itself-up-to-date.aspx

>>

>> There should be UI checkbox to completely disable Windows Update

>> subsystem

>> in System Properties -> Automatic Updates tab!

>>

>> Roman

Posted

Re: Win 98 Continues to Get Better Every Year

 

smith wrote:

| c/o http://windowssecrets.com/comp/070913

|

| about system files getting updated with automatic update turned

| off.

 

That's scary, but it's part & parcel of regular XP/Vista-irradiation-- &

nothing else! It WON'T happen on our Win98 machines, except I do know my

ISP (Internet Service Provider), NetZero, will do it-- & not just to

update phone numbers! I'm fairly sure my Kerio Personal Firewall has

complained once/twice about the signature having changed on NetZero's

main executable Exec.exe! Also, it takes in new ad's & URLs for its

mini-TV to show during the logon process!

 

 

--

Thanks or Good Luck,

There may be humor in this post, and,

Naturally, you will not sue,

Should things get worse after this,

PCR

pcrrcp@netzero.net

Posted

Re: Win 98 Continues to Get Better Every Year

 

Thanks Robear. I remember that I hated that critical update notification

because it was set at least in my system to check every 5 minutes for

critical updates and when I changed the time for it to check it would revert

to the previous 5 minute setting after a shutdown and reboot of the computer.

I for one unistalled this update and did not miss it at all since I check

for updates manually at least weekly.

 

"PA Bear" wrote:

> Yes, but see http://support.microsoft.com/kb/224420. The Windows Critical

> Update Notification utility could be installed in Win98 to notify the user

> of available updates. Note that it does/did not /install/ any updates.

> --

> ~PA Bear

>

> Dan wrote:

> > Huh, I thought Windows ME was the first Microsoft os to get automatic

> > updates?

> >

> > "roman modic" wrote:

> >

> >> Hello!

> >>

> >> "smith" <smith3@nospam3.com> wrote in message

> >> news:uRVkIJq9HHA.600@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> >>> c/o http://windowssecrets.com/comp/070913

> >>>

> >>> about system files getting updated with automatic update turned

> >>> off.

> >>

> >> Explanation (but IMHO not good enough):

> >> http://blogs.technet.com/mu/archive/2007/09/13/how-windows-update-keeps-itself-up-to-date.aspx

> >>

> >> There should be UI checkbox to completely disable Windows Update

> >> subsystem

> >> in System Properties -> Automatic Updates tab!

> >>

> >> Roman

>

>

>

Posted

Re: Win 98 Continues to Get Better Every Year

 

Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt on Microsoft's side or some one else's side(s)?

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_uncertainty_and_doubt

 

Please elaborate on your statement if you like, Robear. Thanks in advance.

Have a nice day. (I like that last sentence but think I will use . instead

of ! since I do not need to have an exclaimation mark there because a period

will do --- grin)

 

"PA Bear" wrote:

> FUD.

>

> smith wrote:

> > c/o http://windowssecrets.com/comp/070913

> >

> > about system files getting updated with automatic update turned

> > off.

>

>

>

Posted

Re: Win 98 Continues to Get Better Every Year

 

Well, I prefer os to let you know about what they are doing. Chris Quirke,

MVP is consider having an underlying maintenance operating system of Linux to

help support Vista. His blog on this is really interesting to me at least.

 

http://cquirke.wordpress.com/2007/09/11/hello-world/#comments

 

 

*Disclaimer: I ask all users to carefully research any above web links

including my own before clicking them willy/nilly (laughs) to help prevent

potential garbage (in the form of addware and/or spyware usually) from being

installed on their computer. *

 

 

"PCR" wrote:

> smith wrote:

> | c/o http://windowssecrets.com/comp/070913

> |

> | about system files getting updated with automatic update turned

> | off.

>

> That's scary, but it's part & parcel of regular XP/Vista-irradiation-- &

> nothing else! It WON'T happen on our Win98 machines, except I do know my

> ISP (Internet Service Provider), NetZero, will do it-- & not just to

> update phone numbers! I'm fairly sure my Kerio Personal Firewall has

> complained once/twice about the signature having changed on NetZero's

> main executable Exec.exe! Also, it takes in new ad's & URLs for its

> mini-TV to show during the logon process!

>

>

> --

> Thanks or Good Luck,

> There may be humor in this post, and,

> Naturally, you will not sue,

> Should things get worse after this,

> PCR

> pcrrcp@netzero.net

>

>

>

Posted

Re: Win 98 Continues to Get Better Every Year

 

Dan wrote:

| Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt on Microsoft's side or some one else's

| side(s)?

|

| http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_uncertainty_and_doubt

|

| Please elaborate on your statement if you like, Robear. Thanks in

| advance. Have a nice day. (I like that last sentence but think I

| will use . instead of ! since I do not need to have an exclaimation

| mark there because a period will do --- grin)

 

I think he was just worried Elmer would run out of rabbits to shoot!

 

| "PA Bear" wrote:

|

|> FUD.

|>

|> smith wrote:

|> > c/o http://windowssecrets.com/comp/070913

|> >

|> > about system files getting updated with automatic update turned

|> > off.

 

--

Thanks or Good Luck,

There may be humor in this post, and,

Naturally, you will not sue,

Should things get worse after this,

PCR

pcrrcp@netzero.net

Posted

Re: Win 98 Continues to Get Better Every Year

 

Dan wrote:

| Well, I prefer os to let you know about what they are doing. Chris

| Quirke, MVP is consider having an underlying maintenance operating

| system of Linux to help support Vista. His blog on this is really

| interesting to me at least.

|

| http://cquirke.wordpress.com/2007/09/11/hello-world/#comments

 

I've misplaced my tinfoil hat & cannot click a Vista blog until I find

it. But you are right about stealth updates. I guess, in my case with

NetZero, I have no choice in any event but to trust them. Stealth

updates or otherwise, I must always have Exec.exe running in here when

connected to the NET. And it can do anything it pleases!

 

| *Disclaimer: I ask all users to carefully research any above web

| links including my own before clicking them willy/nilly (laughs) to

| help prevent potential garbage (in the form of addware and/or spyware

| usually) from being installed on their computer. *

|

|

| "PCR" wrote:

|

|> smith wrote:

|> | c/o http://windowssecrets.com/comp/070913

|> |

|> | about system files getting updated with automatic update turned

|> | off.

|>

|> That's scary, but it's part & parcel of regular

|> XP/Vista-irradiation-- & nothing else! It WON'T happen on our Win98

|> machines, except I do know my ISP (Internet Service Provider),

|> NetZero, will do it-- & not just to update phone numbers! I'm fairly

|> sure my Kerio Personal Firewall has complained once/twice about the

|> signature having changed on NetZero's main executable Exec.exe!

|> Also, it takes in new ad's & URLs for its mini-TV to show during the

|> logon process!

|>

|>

|> --

|> Thanks or Good Luck,

|> There may be humor in this post, and,

|> Naturally, you will not sue,

|> Should things get worse after this,

|> PCR

|> pcrrcp@netzero.net

 

--

Thanks or Good Luck,

There may be humor in this post, and,

Naturally, you will not sue,

Should things get worse after this,

PCR

pcrrcp@netzero.net

Posted

Re: Win 98 Continues to Get Better Every Year

 

Good PCR --- you should consider doing what I do and have a computer that is

not net enabled like my good old 486 in Santa Fe, New Mexico. It has MS-DOS

5 and Windows 3.1 and I still use it and especially now since my dual-boot

custom built and upgraded from a gaming PC is down for the count at least for

a while. <grin> I am enjoying playing old games like Zeliard again and it

is so nice with the Roland MT-32 music card that my now deceased grandmother

Nana bought me in the 1980's. The music card was over $700 but I feel it was

well worth it since it still brings me so much happiness today playing the

old DOS and Windows 3.1 games that were mainly from Sierra in my game

collection. The majority of the games are stored in the basement in boxes

but it is great to pull them out and play them on a real PC that was written

for consumers and has a real maintenance operating system unlike NT (New

Technology), 2000, XP Home/Professional, and Vista. My Linux and Apple days

are fast approaching due to the continued foolishness of Microsoft in trying

to save some money by not having the 9x consumer source code continued. Now

you know Gary S. Terhune will be upset with me because I broke my word about

not mentioning the greatness and desire for another 9x operating system. In

addition, think of the children who need to be educated with the older

software that was written for DOS and Windows 3.1 that will not run on XP or

Vista. It would be nice if someone would listen to me for once. Painted Sky

Elementary removed the 98 Second Edition PC's this summer for only XP

Professional PC's with remote access enabled while I was gone for 3 months

and look what happened to them. My Windows ME PC there that had a hardware

glitch preventing it from shutting down properly was the only 9x PC left in

the place. <!>

 

"PCR" wrote

> Dan wrote:

> | Well, I prefer os to let you know about what they are doing. Chris

> | Quirke, MVP is consider having an underlying maintenance operating

> | system of Linux to help support Vista. His blog on this is really

> | interesting to me at least.

> |

> | http://cquirke.wordpress.com/2007/09/11/hello-world/#comments

>

> I've misplaced my tinfoil hat & cannot click a Vista blog until I find

> it. But you are right about stealth updates. I guess, in my case with

> NetZero, I have no choice in any event but to trust them. Stealth

> updates or otherwise, I must always have Exec.exe running in here when

> connected to the NET. And it can do anything it pleases!

>

> | *Disclaimer: I ask all users to carefully research any above web

> | links including my own before clicking them willy/nilly (laughs) to

> | help prevent potential garbage (in the form of addware and/or spyware

> | usually) from being installed on their computer. *

> |

> |

> | "PCR" wrote:

> |

> |> smith wrote:

> |> | c/o http://windowssecrets.com/comp/070913

> |> |

> |> | about system files getting updated with automatic update turned

> |> | off.

> |>

> |> That's scary, but it's part & parcel of regular

> |> XP/Vista-irradiation-- & nothing else! It WON'T happen on our Win98

> |> machines, except I do know my ISP (Internet Service Provider),

> |> NetZero, will do it-- & not just to update phone numbers! I'm fairly

> |> sure my Kerio Personal Firewall has complained once/twice about the

> |> signature having changed on NetZero's main executable Exec.exe!

> |> Also, it takes in new ad's & URLs for its mini-TV to show during the

> |> logon process!

> |>

> |>

> |> --

> |> Thanks or Good Luck,

> |> There may be humor in this post, and,

> |> Naturally, you will not sue,

> |> Should things get worse after this,

> |> PCR

> |> pcrrcp@netzero.net

>

> --

> Thanks or Good Luck,

> There may be humor in this post, and,

> Naturally, you will not sue,

> Should things get worse after this,

> PCR

> pcrrcp@netzero.net

>

>

>

Guest Curt Christianson
Posted

Re: Win 98 Continues to Get Better Every Year

 

I've never had a whole computer worth $700! <g>

 

--

HTH,

Curt

 

Windows Support Center

http://www.aumha.org

Practically Nerded,...

http://dundats.mvps.org/Index.htm

 

"Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:A926D550-1200-44EF-84C2-FEAA257244F3@microsoft.com...

| Good PCR --- you should consider doing what I do and have a computer that

is

| not net enabled like my good old 486 in Santa Fe, New Mexico. It has

MS-DOS

| 5 and Windows 3.1 and I still use it and especially now since my dual-boot

| custom built and upgraded from a gaming PC is down for the count at least

for

| a while. <grin> I am enjoying playing old games like Zeliard again and

it

| is so nice with the Roland MT-32 music card that my now deceased

grandmother

| Nana bought me in the 1980's. The music card was over $700 but I feel it

was

| well worth it since it still brings me so much happiness today playing the

| old DOS and Windows 3.1 games that were mainly from Sierra in my game

| collection. The majority of the games are stored in the basement in boxes

| but it is great to pull them out and play them on a real PC that was

written

| for consumers and has a real maintenance operating system unlike NT (New

| Technology), 2000, XP Home/Professional, and Vista. My Linux and Apple

days

| are fast approaching due to the continued foolishness of Microsoft in

trying

| to save some money by not having the 9x consumer source code continued.

Now

| you know Gary S. Terhune will be upset with me because I broke my word

about

| not mentioning the greatness and desire for another 9x operating system.

In

| addition, think of the children who need to be educated with the older

| software that was written for DOS and Windows 3.1 that will not run on XP

or

| Vista. It would be nice if someone would listen to me for once. Painted

Sky

| Elementary removed the 98 Second Edition PC's this summer for only XP

| Professional PC's with remote access enabled while I was gone for 3 months

| and look what happened to them. My Windows ME PC there that had a

hardware

| glitch preventing it from shutting down properly was the only 9x PC left

in

| the place. <!>

|

| "PCR" wrote

|

| > Dan wrote:

| > | Well, I prefer os to let you know about what they are doing. Chris

| > | Quirke, MVP is consider having an underlying maintenance operating

| > | system of Linux to help support Vista. His blog on this is really

| > | interesting to me at least.

| > |

| > | http://cquirke.wordpress.com/2007/09/11/hello-world/#comments

| >

| > I've misplaced my tinfoil hat & cannot click a Vista blog until I find

| > it. But you are right about stealth updates. I guess, in my case with

| > NetZero, I have no choice in any event but to trust them. Stealth

| > updates or otherwise, I must always have Exec.exe running in here when

| > connected to the NET. And it can do anything it pleases!

| >

| > | *Disclaimer: I ask all users to carefully research any above web

| > | links including my own before clicking them willy/nilly (laughs) to

| > | help prevent potential garbage (in the form of addware and/or spyware

| > | usually) from being installed on their computer. *

| > |

| > |

| > | "PCR" wrote:

| > |

| > |> smith wrote:

| > |> | c/o http://windowssecrets.com/comp/070913

| > |> |

| > |> | about system files getting updated with automatic update turned

| > |> | off.

| > |>

| > |> That's scary, but it's part & parcel of regular

| > |> XP/Vista-irradiation-- & nothing else! It WON'T happen on our Win98

| > |> machines, except I do know my ISP (Internet Service Provider),

| > |> NetZero, will do it-- & not just to update phone numbers! I'm fairly

| > |> sure my Kerio Personal Firewall has complained once/twice about the

| > |> signature having changed on NetZero's main executable Exec.exe!

| > |> Also, it takes in new ad's & URLs for its mini-TV to show during the

| > |> logon process!

| > |>

| > |>

| > |> --

| > |> Thanks or Good Luck,

| > |> There may be humor in this post, and,

| > |> Naturally, you will not sue,

| > |> Should things get worse after this,

| > |> PCR

| > |> pcrrcp@netzero.net

| >

| > --

| > Thanks or Good Luck,

| > There may be humor in this post, and,

| > Naturally, you will not sue,

| > Should things get worse after this,

| > PCR

| > pcrrcp@netzero.net

| >

| >

| >

Guest Curt Christianson
Posted

Re: Win 98 Continues to Get Better Every Year

 

The first one was from a church rummage sale, and I got everything including

monitor, keyboard, EVERYTHING for $10. It had a P24T Pentium Overdrive® @

100MHz, and 16MB RAM. Also a 28.8 modem with W98SE. I had it on the

Internet too.

 

This machine I got from my mother when she upgraded to a blazing fast new

machine. It has an AMD K6-2 @ 500MHz 384MB RAM, and a 56K modem. Oh, I

can't forget about the 17" monitor. My old machine only had a 14"--wow,

what a difference. I've got a DSL hookup right now. So this machine I got

for free. It originally shipped from Compaq with W98SE, but she had a HD

failure, and by the time I got it it had XP Pro. I still have my W98SE CD

from the machine before this, and someday when I get ambitious I may set up

to dual boot. Only problem is that my wireless router will not work on W98,

so I'd have to go back to dial-up.

 

--

HTH,

Curt

 

Windows Support Center

http://www.aumha.org

Practically Nerded,...

http://dundats.mvps.org/Index.htm

 

"Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:8F8C3F72-12F7-4DEC-83E1-CF073DAF8620@microsoft.com...

| Wow, how did you accomplish that, Curt?

|

| "Curt Christianson" wrote:

|

| > I've never had a whole computer worth $700! <g>

| >

| > --

| > HTH,

| > Curt

| >

| > Windows Support Center

| > http://www.aumha.org

| > Practically Nerded,...

| > http://dundats.mvps.org/Index.htm

| <snip>

Posted

Re: Win 98 Continues to Get Better Every Year

 

Thanks for the response, Curt. So there is no way to get wireless in 98

Second Edition even if the motherboard supports it---- right --- just want to

make sure on this point.

 

"Curt Christianson" wrote:

> The first one was from a church rummage sale, and I got everything including

> monitor, keyboard, EVERYTHING for $10. It had a P24T Pentium Overdrive® @

> 100MHz, and 16MB RAM. Also a 28.8 modem with W98SE. I had it on the

> Internet too.

>

> This machine I got from my mother when she upgraded to a blazing fast new

> machine. It has an AMD K6-2 @ 500MHz 384MB RAM, and a 56K modem. Oh, I

> can't forget about the 17" monitor. My old machine only had a 14"--wow,

> what a difference. I've got a DSL hookup right now. So this machine I got

> for free. It originally shipped from Compaq with W98SE, but she had a HD

> failure, and by the time I got it it had XP Pro. I still have my W98SE CD

> from the machine before this, and someday when I get ambitious I may set up

> to dual boot. Only problem is that my wireless router will not work on W98,

> so I'd have to go back to dial-up.

>

> --

> HTH,

> Curt

>

> Windows Support Center

> http://www.aumha.org

> Practically Nerded,...

> http://dundats.mvps.org/Index.htm

>

> "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:8F8C3F72-12F7-4DEC-83E1-CF073DAF8620@microsoft.com...

> | Wow, how did you accomplish that, Curt?

> |

> | "Curt Christianson" wrote:

> |

> | > I've never had a whole computer worth $700! <g>

> | >

> | > --

> | > HTH,

> | > Curt

> | >

> | > Windows Support Center

> | > http://www.aumha.org

> | > Practically Nerded,...

> | > http://dundats.mvps.org/Index.htm

> | <snip>

>

>

>

Guest Curt Christianson
Posted

Re: Win 98 Continues to Get Better Every Year

 

I honestly don't think it's a matter of mobo support. My wireless adapter

is USB for one thing, and the specifications list XP as a minimum

requirement. I still think (although I haven't researched it) that there

may be wireless setups out there where 98SE would work though.

 

--

HTH,

Curt

 

Windows Support Center

http://www.aumha.org

Practically Nerded,...

http://dundats.mvps.org/Index.htm

 

"Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:E936772A-19B1-48A8-BCE8-E620678CCB2E@microsoft.com...

| Thanks for the response, Curt. So there is no way to get wireless in 98

| Second Edition even if the motherboard supports it---- right --- just want

to

| make sure on this point.

|

| "Curt Christianson" wrote:

|

| > The first one was from a church rummage sale, and I got everything

including

| > monitor, keyboard, EVERYTHING for $10. It had a P24T Pentium Overdrive®

@

| > 100MHz, and 16MB RAM. Also a 28.8 modem with W98SE. I had it on the

| > Internet too.

| >

| > This machine I got from my mother when she upgraded to a blazing fast

new

| > machine. It has an AMD K6-2 @ 500MHz 384MB RAM, and a 56K modem. Oh, I

| > can't forget about the 17" monitor. My old machine only had a 14"--wow,

| > what a difference. I've got a DSL hookup right now. So this machine I

got

| > for free. It originally shipped from Compaq with W98SE, but she had a

HD

| > failure, and by the time I got it it had XP Pro. I still have my W98SE

CD

| > from the machine before this, and someday when I get ambitious I may set

up

| > to dual boot. Only problem is that my wireless router will not work on

W98,

| > so I'd have to go back to dial-up.

| >

| > --

| > HTH,

| > Curt

| >

| > Windows Support Center

| > http://www.aumha.org

| > Practically Nerded,...

| > http://dundats.mvps.org/Index.htm

| >

| > "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

| > news:8F8C3F72-12F7-4DEC-83E1-CF073DAF8620@microsoft.com...

| > | Wow, how did you accomplish that, Curt?

| > |

| > | "Curt Christianson" wrote:

| > |

| > | > I've never had a whole computer worth $700! <g>

| > | >

| > | > --

| > | > HTH,

| > | > Curt

| > | >

| > | > Windows Support Center

| > | > http://www.aumha.org

| > | > Practically Nerded,...

| > | > http://dundats.mvps.org/Index.htm

| > | <snip>

| >

| >

| >

Guest Ingeborg
Posted

Re: Win 98 Continues to Get Better Every Year

 

=?Utf-8?B?RGFu?= wrote:

> So there is no way to get wireless in 98

> Second Edition even if the motherboard supports it---- right --- just

> want to make sure on this point.

>

 

You can use wireless on '98, if you can find drivers for it. I have two

laptops here, one running W98SE, and one running W95 (OSR2), both with a

working wireless networkcard.

Guest Curt Christianson
Posted

Re: Win 98 Continues to Get Better Every Year

 

Thanks Ingeborg!

 

--

HTH,

Curt

 

Windows Support Center

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"Ingeborg" <a@b.invalid> wrote in message

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| =?Utf-8?B?RGFu?= wrote:

|

| > So there is no way to get wireless in 98

| > Second Edition even if the motherboard supports it---- right --- just

| > want to make sure on this point.

| >

|

| You can use wireless on '98, if you can find drivers for it. I have two

| laptops here, one running W98SE, and one running W95 (OSR2), both with a

| working wireless networkcard.

|

Posted

Re: Win 98 Continues to Get Better Every Year

 

Thanks, Ingeborg and that is what I thought was the correct information. I

appreciate your response. By the way, has anyone yet made PCI-Express

graphics cards available to 98 Second Edition through software drivers or was

the technology already considered too old by the software and hardware

companies?

 

"Ingeborg" wrote:

> =?Utf-8?B?RGFu?= wrote:

>

> > So there is no way to get wireless in 98

> > Second Edition even if the motherboard supports it---- right --- just

> > want to make sure on this point.

> >

>

> You can use wireless on '98, if you can find drivers for it. I have two

> laptops here, one running W98SE, and one running W95 (OSR2), both with a

> working wireless networkcard.

>

>

Posted

Re: Win 98 Continues to Get Better Every Year

 

Dan wrote:

| Good PCR --- you should consider doing what I do and have a computer

| that is not net enabled like my good old 486 in Santa Fe, New Mexico.

 

Yea. At present, I never run anything overly sensitive on this machine

while connected to the NET-- not that I'm admitting I have

overly-sensitive stuff with files that I only keep on floppy disks! It's

on my to-do list to dual boot to a second, hidden partition that will

have no NET access at all-- not that I need it, though! Don't get me in

trouble with the law, now!

 

| It has MS-DOS 5 and Windows 3.1 and I still use it and especially now

| since my dual-boot custom built and upgraded from a gaming PC is down

| for the count at least for a while. <grin> I am enjoying playing

| old games like Zeliard again and it is so nice with the Roland MT-32

| music card that my now deceased grandmother Nana bought me in the

| 1980's. The music card was over $700 but I feel it was well worth it

| since it still brings me so much happiness today playing the old DOS

| and Windows 3.1 games that were mainly from Sierra in my game

| collection. The majority of the games are stored in the basement in

| boxes but it is great to pull them out and play them on a real PC

| that was written for consumers and has a real maintenance operating

| system unlike NT (New Technology), 2000, XP Home/Professional, and

| Vista. My Linux and Apple days are fast approaching due to the

| continued foolishness of Microsoft in trying to save some money by

| not having the 9x consumer source code continued. Now you know Gary

| S. Terhune will be upset with me because I broke my word about not

| mentioning the greatness and desire for another 9x operating system.

 

Didn't you promise him not to talk to much too? It's OK with me, but--

he wants some peace & quiet!

 

| In addition, think of the children who need to be educated with the

| older software that was written for DOS and Windows 3.1 that will not

| run on XP or Vista. It would be nice if someone would listen to me

| for once. Painted Sky Elementary removed the 98 Second Edition PC's

| this summer for only XP Professional PC's with remote access enabled

| while I was gone for 3 months and look what happened to them. My

| Windows ME PC there that had a hardware glitch preventing it from

| shutting down properly was the only 9x PC left in the place. <!>

|

| "PCR" wrote

|

|> Dan wrote:

|> | Well, I prefer os to let you know about what they are doing. Chris

|> | Quirke, MVP is consider having an underlying maintenance operating

|> | system of Linux to help support Vista. His blog on this is really

|> | interesting to me at least.

|> |

|> | http://cquirke.wordpress.com/2007/09/11/hello-world/#comments

|>

|> I've misplaced my tinfoil hat & cannot click a Vista blog until I

|> find it. But you are right about stealth updates. I guess, in my

|> case with NetZero, I have no choice in any event but to trust them.

|> Stealth updates or otherwise, I must always have Exec.exe running in

|> here when connected to the NET. And it can do anything it pleases!

|>

|> | *Disclaimer: I ask all users to carefully research any above web

|> | links including my own before clicking them willy/nilly (laughs) to

|> | help prevent potential garbage (in the form of addware and/or

|> | spyware usually) from being installed on their computer. *

|> |

|> |

|> | "PCR" wrote:

|> |

|> |> smith wrote:

|> |> | c/o http://windowssecrets.com/comp/070913

|> |> |

|> |> | about system files getting updated with automatic update turned

|> |> | off.

|> |>

|> |> That's scary, but it's part & parcel of regular

|> |> XP/Vista-irradiation-- & nothing else! It WON'T happen on our

|> |> Win98 machines, except I do know my ISP (Internet Service

|> |> Provider), NetZero, will do it-- & not just to update phone

|> |> numbers! I'm fairly sure my Kerio Personal Firewall has

|> |> complained once/twice about the signature having changed on

|> |> NetZero's main executable Exec.exe! Also, it takes in new ad's &

|> |> URLs for its mini-TV to show during the logon process!

|> |>

|> |>

|> |> --

|> |> Thanks or Good Luck,

|> |> There may be humor in this post, and,

|> |> Naturally, you will not sue,

|> |> Should things get worse after this,

|> |> PCR

|> |> pcrrcp@netzero.net

|>

|> --

|> Thanks or Good Luck,

|> There may be humor in this post, and,

|> Naturally, you will not sue,

|> Should things get worse after this,

|> PCR

|> pcrrcp@netzero.net

 

--

Thanks or Good Luck,

There may be humor in this post, and,

Naturally, you will not sue,

Should things get worse after this,

PCR

pcrrcp@netzero.net

Posted

Re: Win 98 Continues to Get Better Every Year

 

<Snip>

 

Thanks for reminding me that Gary S. Terhune needs some peace and quiet. I

am slowly starting to feel so much better about the whole crazy situation. I

was able to laugh with my friend Jared over the phone on Saturday because

everything had gotten too crazy. I went from anger, to sadness/being really

upset, to some depression, to feelings that I must stamp out identity theft

in the world to now healing by being able to laugh about it again. Thanks

again for always being there PCR. I know I can trust you. <smile>

Posted

Re: Win 98 Continues to Get Better Every Year

 

Dan wrote:

| <Snip>

|

| Thanks for reminding me that Gary S. Terhune needs some peace and

| quiet. I am slowly starting to feel so much better about the whole

| crazy situation. I was able to laugh with my friend Jared over the

| phone on Saturday because everything had gotten too crazy. I went

| from anger, to sadness/being really upset, to some depression, to

| feelings that I must stamp out identity theft in the world to now

| healing by being able to laugh about it again. Thanks again for

| always being there PCR. I know I can trust you. <smile>

 

You are welcome. I am glad to hear you ultimately have mastered your

emotions. And I hope you haven't murdered Terhune in the interim! He

isn't around anymore!

 

 

--

Thanks or Good Luck,

There may be humor in this post, and,

Naturally, you will not sue,

Should things get worse after this,

PCR

pcrrcp@netzero.net

Posted

Re: Win 98 Continues to Get Better Every Year

 

My guess is the federal government drafted him to secure their computer

network or maybe just he is taking it easy. <grin> You can tell I am

feeling better just because of my shorter posts.

 

"PCR" wrote:

> Dan wrote:

> | <Snip>

> |

> | Thanks for reminding me that Gary S. Terhune needs some peace and

> | quiet. I am slowly starting to feel so much better about the whole

> | crazy situation. I was able to laugh with my friend Jared over the

> | phone on Saturday because everything had gotten too crazy. I went

> | from anger, to sadness/being really upset, to some depression, to

> | feelings that I must stamp out identity theft in the world to now

> | healing by being able to laugh about it again. Thanks again for

> | always being there PCR. I know I can trust you. <smile>

>

> You are welcome. I am glad to hear you ultimately have mastered your

> emotions. And I hope you haven't murdered Terhune in the interim! He

> isn't around anymore!

>

>

> --

> Thanks or Good Luck,

> There may be humor in this post, and,

> Naturally, you will not sue,

> Should things get worse after this,

> PCR

> pcrrcp@netzero.net

>

>

>

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