Remote running of VB app using TS

[Guest Markus]

I need to test out a VB app running on TS. I would like to see what kind of

speed I can get for multiple remote users (up to 5) running the app with TS.

Am very new to TS.

 

Right now I have 2 XP Home computers to use for this testing. As I

understand it, XP home does not have TS capabiltiy. I believe I need to

upgrade one computer to XP Pro to do this testing. Correct?

 

If I do so, I believe this will allow up to 5 remote concurrent users

(before I would need additional licenses) running the app on the upgraded XP

Pro computer. Correct?

 

I may run this app either over the Internet or on a LAN or WAN. If I run

over the internet, can I test this using my other comptuer under XP Home and

my Internet Explorer browser, or would I need something additional on the

remote machine?

 

If I run over a LAN or WAN, would I need XP Pro on the machines needing to

access the app?

 

Many thanks for your help on this,

Mark

[Guest Vera Noest [MVP]]

Re: Remote running of VB app using TS

 

I'm sorry, but your planned test environment is not going to work.

XP pro can only run one single user session at a time, either at

the console or through a remote connection. After all, it's a

single user OS.

 

_________________________________________________________

Vera Noest

MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net

___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___

 

=?Utf-8?B?TWFya3Vz?= <Markus@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote on

14 sep 2007 in microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

> I need to test out a VB app running on TS. I would like to see

> what kind of speed I can get for multiple remote users (up to 5)

> running the app with TS. Am very new to TS.

>

> Right now I have 2 XP Home computers to use for this testing.

> As I understand it, XP home does not have TS capabiltiy. I

> believe I need to upgrade one computer to XP Pro to do this

> testing. Correct?

>

> If I do so, I believe this will allow up to 5 remote concurrent

> users (before I would need additional licenses) running the app

> on the upgraded XP Pro computer. Correct?

>

> I may run this app either over the Internet or on a LAN or WAN.

> If I run over the internet, can I test this using my other

> comptuer under XP Home and my Internet Explorer browser, or

> would I need something additional on the remote machine?

>

> If I run over a LAN or WAN, would I need XP Pro on the machines

> needing to access the app?

>

> Many thanks for your help on this,

> Mark

[Guest Markus]

Re: Remote running of VB app using TS

 

Vera,

 

Thanks. So I guess I need to install Server2003 on the computer to allow

for multiuser access, is that correct?

 

Sorry these questions are so basic. My ultimate goal is twofold - first to

test wehether the app can run ok remotely over the Internet or over a LAN or

WAN using TS even as single user. Second, what is the speed when running 5

users at a time. I need to know what I need to purchase to run the tests.

 

The first goal is most important right now, and need to configure my

hardware/OS to allow me to run tests using TS even if it is as a single user.

 

 

Many thanks,

Mark

> I'm sorry, but your planned test environment is not going to work.

> XP pro can only run one single user session at a time, either at

> the console or through a remote connection. After all, it's a

> single user OS.

>

> _________________________________________________________

> Vera Noest

> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net

> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___

>

> =?Utf-8?B?TWFya3Vz?= <Markus@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote on

> 14 sep 2007 in microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

>

> > I need to test out a VB app running on TS. I would like to see

> > what kind of speed I can get for multiple remote users (up to 5)

> > running the app with TS. Am very new to TS.

> >

> > Right now I have 2 XP Home computers to use for this testing.

> > As I understand it, XP home does not have TS capabiltiy. I

> > believe I need to upgrade one computer to XP Pro to do this

> > testing. Correct?

> >

> > If I do so, I believe this will allow up to 5 remote concurrent

> > users (before I would need additional licenses) running the app

> > on the upgraded XP Pro computer. Correct?

> >

> > I may run this app either over the Internet or on a LAN or WAN.

> > If I run over the internet, can I test this using my other

> > comptuer under XP Home and my Internet Explorer browser, or

> > would I need something additional on the remote machine?

> >

> > If I run over a LAN or WAN, would I need XP Pro on the machines

> > needing to access the app?

> >

> > Many thanks for your help on this,

> > Mark

>

[Guest Vera Noest [MVP]]

Re: Remote running of VB app using TS

 

Yes, multi-user access requires a server OS. I would strongly

suggest running your tests on a system that is sufficiently similar

to the production system to abe of any value at all. So by all

means, install 2003 TS.

And I think your first goal should be to test if your application

can run on a Terminal Server. Period. Make sure that you perform

all tests with a normal user account, not an Administrator account.

 

If you want to access your Terminal Server with Internet explorer,

you will also have to run IIS + the web components of Terminal

Services (tsweb). But I would start accessing the TS with the

standard remote desktop client.

_________________________________________________________

Vera Noest

MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net

___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___

 

=?Utf-8?B?TWFya3Vz?= <Markus@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote on

14 sep 2007 in microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

> Vera,

>

> Thanks. So I guess I need to install Server2003 on the computer

> to allow for multiuser access, is that correct?

>

> Sorry these questions are so basic. My ultimate goal is twofold

> - first to test wehether the app can run ok remotely over the

> Internet or over a LAN or WAN using TS even as single user.

> Second, what is the speed when running 5 users at a time. I

> need to know what I need to purchase to run the tests.

>

> The first goal is most important right now, and need to

> configure my hardware/OS to allow me to run tests using TS even

> if it is as a single user.

>

>

> Many thanks,

> Mark

>

>> I'm sorry, but your planned test environment is not going to

>> work. XP pro can only run one single user session at a time,

>> either at the console or through a remote connection. After

>> all, it's a single user OS.

>>

>> _________________________________________________________

>> Vera Noest

>> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

>> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net

>> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___

>>

>> =?Utf-8?B?TWFya3Vz?= <Markus@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote

>> on 14 sep 2007 in microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

>>

>> > I need to test out a VB app running on TS. I would like to

>> > see what kind of speed I can get for multiple remote users

>> > (up to 5) running the app with TS. Am very new to TS.

>> >

>> > Right now I have 2 XP Home computers to use for this testing.

>> > As I understand it, XP home does not have TS capabiltiy. I

>> > believe I need to upgrade one computer to XP Pro to do this

>> > testing. Correct?

>> >

>> > If I do so, I believe this will allow up to 5 remote

>> > concurrent users (before I would need additional licenses)

>> > running the app on the upgraded XP Pro computer. Correct?

>> >

>> > I may run this app either over the Internet or on a LAN or

>> > WAN. If I run over the internet, can I test this using my

>> > other comptuer under XP Home and my Internet Explorer

>> > browser, or would I need something additional on the remote

>> > machine?

>> >

>> > If I run over a LAN or WAN, would I need XP Pro on the

>> > machines needing to access the app?

>> >

>> > Many thanks for your help on this,

>> > Mark

[Guest Markus]

Re: Remote running of VB app using TS

 

Vera,

 

Thanks. Yes, I am first interested in seeing if it can run in TS. Can I do

this testing without installing server2003? i.e., can I just upgrade to XP

pro and does that provide me with a copy of TS to access remotely and run the

tests?

 

I see I can get a trial version of Server2003, but only for 30 days. I'd

like to do all the testing I can to see if it runs in TS before starting the

trial server 2003.

 

Thanks again,

Mark

 

"Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote:

> Yes, multi-user access requires a server OS. I would strongly

> suggest running your tests on a system that is sufficiently similar

> to the production system to abe of any value at all. So by all

> means, install 2003 TS.

> And I think your first goal should be to test if your application

> can run on a Terminal Server. Period. Make sure that you perform

> all tests with a normal user account, not an Administrator account.

>

> If you want to access your Terminal Server with Internet explorer,

> you will also have to run IIS + the web components of Terminal

> Services (tsweb). But I would start accessing the TS with the

> standard remote desktop client.

> _________________________________________________________

> Vera Noest

> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net

> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___

>

> =?Utf-8?B?TWFya3Vz?= <Markus@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote on

> 14 sep 2007 in microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

>

> > Vera,

> >

> > Thanks. So I guess I need to install Server2003 on the computer

> > to allow for multiuser access, is that correct?

> >

> > Sorry these questions are so basic. My ultimate goal is twofold

> > - first to test wehether the app can run ok remotely over the

> > Internet or over a LAN or WAN using TS even as single user.

> > Second, what is the speed when running 5 users at a time. I

> > need to know what I need to purchase to run the tests.

> >

> > The first goal is most important right now, and need to

> > configure my hardware/OS to allow me to run tests using TS even

> > if it is as a single user.

> >

> >

> > Many thanks,

> > Mark

> >

> >> I'm sorry, but your planned test environment is not going to

> >> work. XP pro can only run one single user session at a time,

> >> either at the console or through a remote connection. After

> >> all, it's a single user OS.

> >>

> >> _________________________________________________________

> >> Vera Noest

> >> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

> >> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net

> >> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___

> >>

> >> =?Utf-8?B?TWFya3Vz?= <Markus@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote

> >> on 14 sep 2007 in microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

> >>

> >> > I need to test out a VB app running on TS. I would like to

> >> > see what kind of speed I can get for multiple remote users

> >> > (up to 5) running the app with TS. Am very new to TS.

> >> >

> >> > Right now I have 2 XP Home computers to use for this testing.

> >> > As I understand it, XP home does not have TS capabiltiy. I

> >> > believe I need to upgrade one computer to XP Pro to do this

> >> > testing. Correct?

> >> >

> >> > If I do so, I believe this will allow up to 5 remote

> >> > concurrent users (before I would need additional licenses)

> >> > running the app on the upgraded XP Pro computer. Correct?

> >> >

> >> > I may run this app either over the Internet or on a LAN or

> >> > WAN. If I run over the internet, can I test this using my

> >> > other comptuer under XP Home and my Internet Explorer

> >> > browser, or would I need something additional on the remote

> >> > machine?

> >> >

> >> > If I run over a LAN or WAN, would I need XP Pro on the

> >> > machines needing to access the app?

> >> >

> >> > Many thanks for your help on this,

> >> > Mark

>

[Guest Markus]

Re: Remote running of VB app using TS

 

Vera,

 

Did some more checking and I see that TS is part of Server2003, so I guess

there is no way to do testing except to get the trial of Server2003.

 

For the next web stage of test, am I correct that IIS comes with XP Pro and

is tsWeb you mentioned already included in Server2003 or is that another cost

for me?

 

Thanks again,

Mark

 

"Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote:

> Yes, multi-user access requires a server OS. I would strongly

> suggest running your tests on a system that is sufficiently similar

> to the production system to abe of any value at all. So by all

> means, install 2003 TS.

> And I think your first goal should be to test if your application

> can run on a Terminal Server. Period. Make sure that you perform

> all tests with a normal user account, not an Administrator account.

>

> If you want to access your Terminal Server with Internet explorer,

> you will also have to run IIS + the web components of Terminal

> Services (tsweb). But I would start accessing the TS with the

> standard remote desktop client.

> _________________________________________________________

> Vera Noest

> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net

> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___

>

> =?Utf-8?B?TWFya3Vz?= <Markus@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote on

> 14 sep 2007 in microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

>

> > Vera,

> >

> > Thanks. So I guess I need to install Server2003 on the computer

> > to allow for multiuser access, is that correct?

> >

> > Sorry these questions are so basic. My ultimate goal is twofold

> > - first to test wehether the app can run ok remotely over the

> > Internet or over a LAN or WAN using TS even as single user.

> > Second, what is the speed when running 5 users at a time. I

> > need to know what I need to purchase to run the tests.

> >

> > The first goal is most important right now, and need to

> > configure my hardware/OS to allow me to run tests using TS even

> > if it is as a single user.

> >

> >

> > Many thanks,

> > Mark

> >

> >> I'm sorry, but your planned test environment is not going to

> >> work. XP pro can only run one single user session at a time,

> >> either at the console or through a remote connection. After

> >> all, it's a single user OS.

> >>

> >> _________________________________________________________

> >> Vera Noest

> >> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

> >> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net

> >> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___

> >>

> >> =?Utf-8?B?TWFya3Vz?= <Markus@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote

> >> on 14 sep 2007 in microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

> >>

> >> > I need to test out a VB app running on TS. I would like to

> >> > see what kind of speed I can get for multiple remote users

> >> > (up to 5) running the app with TS. Am very new to TS.

> >> >

> >> > Right now I have 2 XP Home computers to use for this testing.

> >> > As I understand it, XP home does not have TS capabiltiy. I

> >> > believe I need to upgrade one computer to XP Pro to do this

> >> > testing. Correct?

> >> >

> >> > If I do so, I believe this will allow up to 5 remote

> >> > concurrent users (before I would need additional licenses)

> >> > running the app on the upgraded XP Pro computer. Correct?

> >> >

> >> > I may run this app either over the Internet or on a LAN or

> >> > WAN. If I run over the internet, can I test this using my

> >> > other comptuer under XP Home and my Internet Explorer

> >> > browser, or would I need something additional on the remote

> >> > machine?

> >> >

> >> > If I run over a LAN or WAN, would I need XP Pro on the

> >> > machines needing to access the app?

> >> >

> >> > Many thanks for your help on this,

> >> > Mark

>

[Guest Vera Noest [MVP]]

Re: Remote running of VB app using TS

 

No, there is no way that you can test TS multi-user functionality

on a single-user OS. There is no way around getting your hands on a

server 2003 installation.

_________________________________________________________

Vera Noest

MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net

___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___

 

=?Utf-8?B?TWFya3Vz?= <Markus@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote on

15 sep 2007 in microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

> Vera,

>

> Thanks. Yes, I am first interested in seeing if it can run in

> TS. Can I do this testing without installing server2003? i.e.,

> can I just upgrade to XP pro and does that provide me with a

> copy of TS to access remotely and run the tests?

>

> I see I can get a trial version of Server2003, but only for 30

> days. I'd like to do all the testing I can to see if it runs in

> TS before starting the trial server 2003.

>

> Thanks again,

> Mark

>

> "Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote:

>

>> Yes, multi-user access requires a server OS. I would strongly

>> suggest running your tests on a system that is sufficiently

>> similar to the production system to abe of any value at all. So

>> by all means, install 2003 TS.

>> And I think your first goal should be to test if your

>> application can run on a Terminal Server. Period. Make sure

>> that you perform all tests with a normal user account, not an

>> Administrator account.

>>

>> If you want to access your Terminal Server with Internet

>> explorer, you will also have to run IIS + the web components of

>> Terminal Services (tsweb). But I would start accessing the TS

>> with the standard remote desktop client.

>> _________________________________________________________

>> Vera Noest

>> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

>> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net

>> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___

>>

>> =?Utf-8?B?TWFya3Vz?= <Markus@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote

>> on 14 sep 2007 in microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

>>

>> > Vera,

>> >

>> > Thanks. So I guess I need to install Server2003 on the

>> > computer to allow for multiuser access, is that correct?

>> >

>> > Sorry these questions are so basic. My ultimate goal is

>> > twofold - first to test wehether the app can run ok remotely

>> > over the Internet or over a LAN or WAN using TS even as

>> > single user. Second, what is the speed when running 5 users

>> > at a time. I need to know what I need to purchase to run the

>> > tests.

>> >

>> > The first goal is most important right now, and need to

>> > configure my hardware/OS to allow me to run tests using TS

>> > even if it is as a single user.

>> >

>> >

>> > Many thanks,

>> > Mark

>> >

>> >> I'm sorry, but your planned test environment is not going to

>> >> work. XP pro can only run one single user session at a time,

>> >> either at the console or through a remote connection. After

>> >> all, it's a single user OS.

>> >>

>> >> _________________________________________________________

>> >> Vera Noest

>> >> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

>> >> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net

>> >> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___

>> >>

>> >> =?Utf-8?B?TWFya3Vz?= <Markus@discussions.microsoft.com>

>> >> wrote on 14 sep 2007 in

>> >> microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

>> >>

>> >> > I need to test out a VB app running on TS. I would like

>> >> > to see what kind of speed I can get for multiple remote

>> >> > users (up to 5) running the app with TS. Am very new to

>> >> > TS.

>> >> >

>> >> > Right now I have 2 XP Home computers to use for this

>> >> > testing. As I understand it, XP home does not have TS

>> >> > capabiltiy. I believe I need to upgrade one computer to

>> >> > XP Pro to do this testing. Correct?

>> >> >

>> >> > If I do so, I believe this will allow up to 5 remote

>> >> > concurrent users (before I would need additional licenses)

>> >> > running the app on the upgraded XP Pro computer. Correct?

>> >> >

>> >> > I may run this app either over the Internet or on a LAN or

>> >> > WAN. If I run over the internet, can I test this using my

>> >> > other comptuer under XP Home and my Internet Explorer

>> >> > browser, or would I need something additional on the

>> >> > remote machine?

>> >> >

>> >> > If I run over a LAN or WAN, would I need XP Pro on the

>> >> > machines needing to access the app?

>> >> >

>> >> > Many thanks for your help on this,

>> >> > Mark

[Guest Vera Noest [MVP]]

Re: Remote running of VB app using TS

 

I've no idea what's included in XP. As mentioned, XP is a useless

platform for your tests.

The web components of TS are a part of every Windows Server 2003

(optional component of IIS). No extra costs involved.

_________________________________________________________

Vera Noest

MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net

___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___

 

=?Utf-8?B?TWFya3Vz?= <Markus@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote on

15 sep 2007 in microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

> Vera,

>

> Did some more checking and I see that TS is part of Server2003,

> so I guess there is no way to do testing except to get the trial

> of Server2003.

>

> For the next web stage of test, am I correct that IIS comes with

> XP Pro and is tsWeb you mentioned already included in Server2003

> or is that another cost for me?

>

> Thanks again,

> Mark

>

> "Vera Noest [MVP]" wrote:

>

>> Yes, multi-user access requires a server OS. I would strongly

>> suggest running your tests on a system that is sufficiently

>> similar to the production system to abe of any value at all. So

>> by all means, install 2003 TS.

>> And I think your first goal should be to test if your

>> application can run on a Terminal Server. Period. Make sure

>> that you perform all tests with a normal user account, not an

>> Administrator account.

>>

>> If you want to access your Terminal Server with Internet

>> explorer, you will also have to run IIS + the web components of

>> Terminal Services (tsweb). But I would start accessing the TS

>> with the standard remote desktop client.

>> _________________________________________________________

>> Vera Noest

>> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

>> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net

>> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___

>>

>> =?Utf-8?B?TWFya3Vz?= <Markus@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote

>> on 14 sep 2007 in microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

>>

>> > Vera,

>> >

>> > Thanks. So I guess I need to install Server2003 on the

>> > computer to allow for multiuser access, is that correct?

>> >

>> > Sorry these questions are so basic. My ultimate goal is

>> > twofold - first to test wehether the app can run ok remotely

>> > over the Internet or over a LAN or WAN using TS even as

>> > single user. Second, what is the speed when running 5 users

>> > at a time. I need to know what I need to purchase to run the

>> > tests.

>> >

>> > The first goal is most important right now, and need to

>> > configure my hardware/OS to allow me to run tests using TS

>> > even if it is as a single user.

>> >

>> >

>> > Many thanks,

>> > Mark

>> >

>> >> I'm sorry, but your planned test environment is not going to

>> >> work. XP pro can only run one single user session at a time,

>> >> either at the console or through a remote connection. After

>> >> all, it's a single user OS.

>> >>

>> >> _________________________________________________________

>> >> Vera Noest

>> >> MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server

>> >> TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net

>> >> ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___

>> >>

>> >> =?Utf-8?B?TWFya3Vz?= <Markus@discussions.microsoft.com>

>> >> wrote on 14 sep 2007 in

>> >> microsoft.public.windows.terminal_services:

>> >>

>> >> > I need to test out a VB app running on TS. I would like

>> >> > to see what kind of speed I can get for multiple remote

>> >> > users (up to 5) running the app with TS. Am very new to

>> >> > TS.

>> >> >

>> >> > Right now I have 2 XP Home computers to use for this

>> >> > testing. As I understand it, XP home does not have TS

>> >> > capabiltiy. I believe I need to upgrade one computer to

>> >> > XP Pro to do this testing. Correct?

>> >> >

>> >> > If I do so, I believe this will allow up to 5 remote

>> >> > concurrent users (before I would need additional licenses)

>> >> > running the app on the upgraded XP Pro computer. Correct?

>> >> >

>> >> > I may run this app either over the Internet or on a LAN or

>> >> > WAN. If I run over the internet, can I test this using my

>> >> > other comptuer under XP Home and my Internet Explorer

>> >> > browser, or would I need something additional on the

>> >> > remote machine?

>> >> >

>> >> > If I run over a LAN or WAN, would I need XP Pro on the

>> >> > machines needing to access the app?

>> >> >

>> >> > Many thanks for your help on this,

>> >> > Mark