Guest ship Posted September 14, 2007 Posted September 14, 2007 Hi I have just got a "high resolution" LCD monitor (a Samsung Synchmaster 244T since you ask) and its native resolution is fairly high (1920x1200). Although the monitor itself is something of a joy(!), a normal settings that resolution leaves my text way too small! I am experimenting with changing the font size. ( See: Display properties => Settings => Advanced => DPI Setting => Large Size [120DPI - 125% normal size] ) The problem is that many web pages look rather weird. (e.g. http://www.computeractive.co.uk/ has the search box in the wrong place...) Also in Windows Outlook(2003), the names of folders on the LH of the screen are not showing their full names! The names are being trimmed off... - Do you guys think that changing the DPI is a mistake? I suppose the other option would be to set the text size back to normal and move the monitor a *LOT* closer.?? On my previous screen I had it at a custom setting of "110%" I think, but that is now too small... - Any thoughts? Ship Shiperton Henethe Samsung Synchmaster 244T /SM244T, WindowsXP Pro (latest patches), graphics card: Matrox Millennium P650 PCIe 128
Guest ToddAndMargo Posted September 14, 2007 Posted September 14, 2007 Re: Any recommendations for using WindowsXP on a high res monitor(1920x1200)? Re: Any recommendations for using WindowsXP on a high res monitor(1920x1200)? ship wrote: > Hi > > I have just got a "high resolution" LCD monitor (a Samsung Synchmaster > 244T since you ask) and its native resolution is fairly high > (1920x1200). > > Although the monitor itself is something of a joy(!), a normal > settings that resolution leaves my text way too small! I am > experimenting with changing the font size. > > ( See: Display properties => Settings => Advanced => DPI Setting => > Large Size [120DPI - 125% normal size] ) > > The problem is that many web pages look rather weird. > (e.g. http://www.computeractive.co.uk/ has the search box in the wrong > place...) > > Also in Windows Outlook(2003), the names of folders on the LH of the > screen > are not showing their full names! The names are being trimmed off... > > - Do you guys think that changing the DPI is a mistake? > > I suppose the other option would be to set the text size back to > normal and move > the monitor a *LOT* closer.?? On my previous screen I had it at a > custom setting of "110%" I think, but that is now too small... > > - Any thoughts? > > > Ship > Shiperton Henethe > > Samsung Synchmaster 244T /SM244T, WindowsXP Pro (latest patches), > graphics card: Matrox Millennium P650 PCIe 128 > Try going into "Display Properties", "Appearance" tab, and changing "font size" to "Extra large Fonts". HTH, -T
Guest Eric Gisin Posted September 14, 2007 Posted September 14, 2007 Re: Any recommendations for using WindowsXP on a high res monitor (1920x1200)? "ship" <shiphen@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1189805778.887882.13510@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... > > I have just got a "high resolution" LCD monitor (a Samsung Synchmaster > 244T since you ask) and its native resolution is fairly high > (1920x1200). > > Although the monitor itself is something of a joy(!), a normal > settings that resolution leaves my text way too small! I am > experimenting with changing the font size. > > ( See: Display properties => Settings => Advanced => DPI Setting => > Large Size [120DPI - 125% normal size] ) > > The problem is that many web pages look rather weird. > (e.g. http://www.computeractive.co.uk/ has the search box in the wrong > place...) > > Also in Windows Outlook(2003), the names of folders on the LH of the > screen > are not showing their full names! The names are being trimmed off... > > - Do you guys think that changing the DPI is a mistake? > The Normal/Large font setting has been there since Win 3.0, originally to support the 16" IBM XGA monitor at 1024x768. I find it necessary on all LCD monitors. I bought a 22" because the pixels are larger than 20". Yes, I notice bugs in all sorts of programs that were not properly tested. I find I can work around them or live with them. Better than going blind.
Guest Wayne Sallee Posted September 15, 2007 Posted September 15, 2007 Re: Any recommendations for using WindowsXP on a high res monitor(1920x1200)? Re: Any recommendations for using WindowsXP on a high res monitor(1920x1200)? ship wrote on 9/14/2007 5:36 PM: > Hi > > I have just got a "high resolution" LCD monitor (a Samsung Synchmaster > 244T since you ask) and its native resolution is fairly high > (1920x1200). > > Although the monitor itself is something of a joy(!), a normal > settings that resolution leaves my text way too small! I am > experimenting with changing the font size. > > ( See: Display properties => Settings => Advanced => DPI Setting => > Large Size [120DPI - 125% normal size] ) > > The problem is that many web pages look rather weird. > (e.g. http://www.computeractive.co.uk/ has the search box in the wrong > place...) > > Also in Windows Outlook(2003), the names of folders on the LH of the > screen > are not showing their full names! The names are being trimmed off... > > - Do you guys think that changing the DPI is a mistake? > > I suppose the other option would be to set the text size back to > normal and move > the monitor a *LOT* closer.?? On my previous screen I had it at a > custom setting of "110%" I think, but that is now too small... > > - Any thoughts? > > > Ship > Shiperton Henethe > > Samsung Synchmaster 244T /SM244T, WindowsXP Pro (latest patches), > graphics card: Matrox Millennium P650 PCIe 128 > There are a variety of settings you can try to see what gives you the best results, but yes it's sad that programmers, and web page designers don't write better code. Also you don't have to use the full monitor resolution, you can use a lower monitor resolution. Wayne Sallee Wayne@WayneSallee.com
Guest Paul Randall Posted September 15, 2007 Posted September 15, 2007 Re: Any recommendations for using WindowsXP on a high res monitor (1920x1200)? You might want to try using a lower display resolution. This makes LCD displays noticably fuzzy, but it can be much more readable depending on your particular setup. This can allow you to use a more normal font size which won't mess with the formatting. -Paul Randall "ship" <shiphen@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1189805778.887882.13510@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... > > Hi > > I have just got a "high resolution" LCD monitor (a Samsung Synchmaster > 244T since you ask) and its native resolution is fairly high > (1920x1200). > > Although the monitor itself is something of a joy(!), a normal > settings that resolution leaves my text way too small! I am > experimenting with changing the font size. > > ( See: Display properties => Settings => Advanced => DPI Setting => > Large Size [120DPI - 125% normal size] ) > > The problem is that many web pages look rather weird. > (e.g. http://www.computeractive.co.uk/ has the search box in the wrong > place...) > > Also in Windows Outlook(2003), the names of folders on the LH of the > screen > are not showing their full names! The names are being trimmed off... > > - Do you guys think that changing the DPI is a mistake? > > I suppose the other option would be to set the text size back to > normal and move > the monitor a *LOT* closer.?? On my previous screen I had it at a > custom setting of "110%" I think, but that is now too small... > > - Any thoughts? > > > Ship > Shiperton Henethe > > Samsung Synchmaster 244T /SM244T, WindowsXP Pro (latest patches), > graphics card: Matrox Millennium P650 PCIe 128 >
Guest Jim Byrd Posted September 15, 2007 Posted September 15, 2007 Re: Any recommendations for using WindowsXP on a high res monitor (1920x1200)? Hi Ship - one thing you might want to do is to get the MS Clear Type Tuning Power Toy, here: http://www.microsoft.com/typography/ClearTypePowerToy.mspx It can make a significant difference. -- Regards, Jim Byrd, My Blog, Defending Your Machine, http://defendingyourmachine2.blogspot.com/ In news:1189805778.887882.13510@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com, ship <shiphen@gmail.com> typed: || Hi || || I have just got a "high resolution" LCD monitor (a Samsung || Synchmaster 244T since you ask) and its native resolution is fairly || high (1920x1200). || || Although the monitor itself is something of a joy(!), a normal || settings that resolution leaves my text way too small! I am || experimenting with changing the font size. || || ( See: Display properties => Settings => Advanced => DPI Setting => || Large Size [120DPI - 125% normal size] ) || || The problem is that many web pages look rather weird. || (e.g. http://www.computeractive.co.uk/ has the search box in the || wrong place...) || || Also in Windows Outlook(2003), the names of folders on the LH of the || screen || are not showing their full names! The names are being trimmed off... || || - Do you guys think that changing the DPI is a mistake? || || I suppose the other option would be to set the text size back to || normal and move || the monitor a *LOT* closer.?? On my previous screen I had it at a || custom setting of "110%" I think, but that is now too small... || || - Any thoughts? || || || Ship || Shiperton Henethe || || Samsung Synchmaster 244T /SM244T, WindowsXP Pro (latest patches), || graphics card: Matrox Millennium P650 PCIe 128
Guest Andy Dingley Posted September 15, 2007 Posted September 15, 2007 Re: Any recommendations for using WindowsXP on a high res monitor (1920x1200)? On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 14:36:18 -0700, ship <shiphen@gmail.com> wrote: >The problem is that many web pages look rather weird. >(e.g. http://www.computeractive.co.uk/ has the search box in the wrong >place...) It's an IE bug. "High res" displays encourage users (rightly) to set their Windows desktop font size higher, so as to achieve physical font sizes they can usefully see. This breaks IE's default calculation though, as it applies the same correction twice. A web CSS rule of body { font-size: 100%; } with a desktop font size enlarged to 125% will be 1.25 times bigger than the fonts used for the desktop, when it ought to be the same. The fix for this is to abandon IE in favour of Firefox etc. The best work-aound I know for IE is this HTML fragment (not embeddable in a CSS stylesheet AFAIK). It accepts that there's no real fix for IE, it assumes that more IE is running on moderately high-res screens than anything else, and it doesn't degrade too badly for non-scaled desktop fonts. Ugly, but that's IE for you. <!--[if IE]> <style type="text/css"/> font-size: 80%; </style>'); <![endif]--> -- Cats have nine lives, which is why they rarely post to Usenet.
Guest ship Posted September 15, 2007 Posted September 15, 2007 Re: Any recommendations for using WindowsXP on a high res monitor (1920x1200)? Thanks - nice idea Jim, but I am a *webmaster* remember - i.e. I need to know what my users are seeing do straying too far down this kind of thing may be a mistake...! Ship > Hi Ship - one thing you might want to do is to get the MS Clear Type Tuning > Power Toy, here: > > http://www.microsoft.com/typography/ClearTypePowerToy.mspx > > It can make a significant difference. > > -- > Regards, Jim Byrd, > My Blog, Defending Your Machine,http://defendingyourmachine2.blogspot.com/ >
Guest ship Posted September 15, 2007 Posted September 15, 2007 Re: Any recommendations for using WindowsXP on a high res monitor (1920x1200)? > >The problem is that many web pages look rather weird. > >(e.g.http://www.computeractive.co.uk/has the search box in the wrong > >place...) > > It's an IE bug. "High res" displays encourage users (rightly) to set > their Windows desktop font size higher, so as to achieve physical font > sizes they can usefully see. > > This breaks IE's default calculation though, as it applies the same > correction twice. A web CSS rule of body { font-size: 100%; } with a > desktop font size enlarged to 125% will be 1.25 times bigger than the > fonts used for the desktop, when it ought to be the same. > > The fix for this is to abandon IE in favour of Firefox etc. > > The best work-aound I know for IE is this HTML fragment (not embeddable > in a CSS stylesheet AFAIK). It accepts that there's no real fix for IE, > it assumes that more IE is running on moderately high-res screens than > anything else, and it doesn't degrade too badly for non-scaled desktop > fonts. Ugly, but that's IE for you. > > <!--[if IE]> > <style type="text/css"/> > font-size: 80%; > </style>'); > <![endif]--> Crikey - that sounds a bit messy. Are you really saying that every web page I produce should have that fragment in it? Also it implies that it should only be applied if the browser is IE. Forgive my ignorance but how do I get html to do that? Is there REALLY not other way of simply putting this into the .CSS ? Ship Shiperton Henethe
Guest Susan Rice Posted September 15, 2007 Posted September 15, 2007 Re: Any recommendations for using WindowsXP on a high res monitor(1920x1200)? Re: Any recommendations for using WindowsXP on a high res monitor(1920x1200)? I had the same problem when I recently got my new 22" LCD. So I recently wrote this up. FONT SIZE IN WINDOWS XP START -> CONTROL PANEL -> DISPLAY SETTINGS(tab) APPEARANCE(TAB) -> Font Size. Try "Large Fonts" or "Extra Large Fonts" Effects(button) "Use Large icons" (checkbox) START -> CONTROL PANEL -> TASKBAR & START MENU Start Menu(tab) select "Start Menu", click 'Customize', select "Large icons" INTERNET EXPLORER (7.0)(IE7 = Internet Explorer version 7) View -> Text Size Zoom icon at lower right Zoom in Ctrl +, zoom out Ctrl - The problem with using zoom on IE7 is no matter how wide you stretch the window, IE7 still makes the web page wider than your window, so there is always a horizontal scroll bar at the bottom, which you must use to move back and forth so you can see the whole web page. OTHER IE7 OPTIONAL THINGS YOU CAN DO: TOOLS -> INTERNET OPTIONS -> GENERAL(tab) -> FONTS(button) You can't select the font size, but you could select a different font which happens to be larger. -> GENERAL(tab) -> ACCESSIBILITY(button) Ignore font styles specified on webpages Ignore font sizes specified on webpages -> ADVANCED(tab) -> Accessibility(section at top of list): Reset text size to medium for new windows and tabs Reset text size to medium while zooming Reset Zoom level to 100% for new windows and tabs NETSCAPE 7.2 View -> Text Zoom Edit -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Fonts Size(pixels) for Proportional Font & Monospace Font Also "Minimum font size", which changes the font you see when you type email. Netscape 7.2 is nice in that when you use VIEW -> TEXT ZOOM, it keeps the whole web page on the screen, unlike IE7. The drawback is Netscape 7.2 is becoming obsolete. (I didn't care for Netscape 8, and I think there may be a version 9 out now.) FIREFOX Very much like Netscape (I think a lot of the code is actually shared. Never quite understood how.) A nice web browser. Like Netscape 7.2, you can zoom to make the font larger. However, unlike Netscape 7.2, it doesn't tell you how zoomed in or out you are. You can use + or -, but there's no option I know of to say "Go back to regulatr 100% size". MONITOR You can also try setting the monitor Display DPI: START -> CONTROL PANEL -> DISPLAY SETTINGS(tab) -> ADVANCED -> GENERAL(TAB) Display DPI setting. Try "Large size (120 DPI)" (I tried it and didn't care for it.) ship wrote: > Hi > > I have just got a "high resolution" LCD monitor (a Samsung Synchmaster > 244T since you ask) and its native resolution is fairly high > (1920x1200). > > Although the monitor itself is something of a joy(!), a normal > settings that resolution leaves my text way too small! I am > experimenting with changing the font size. > > ( See: Display properties => Settings => Advanced => DPI Setting => > Large Size [120DPI - 125% normal size] ) > > The problem is that many web pages look rather weird. > (e.g. http://www.computeractive.co.uk/ has the search box in the wrong > place...) > > Also in Windows Outlook(2003), the names of folders on the LH of the > screen > are not showing their full names! The names are being trimmed off... > > - Do you guys think that changing the DPI is a mistake? > > I suppose the other option would be to set the text size back to > normal and move > the monitor a *LOT* closer.?? On my previous screen I had it at a > custom setting of "110%" I think, but that is now too small... > > - Any thoughts? > > > Ship > Shiperton Henethe > > Samsung Synchmaster 244T /SM244T, WindowsXP Pro (latest patches), > graphics card: Matrox Millennium P650 PCIe 128 >
Guest Andrew Barss Posted September 17, 2007 Posted September 17, 2007 Re: Any recommendations for using WindowsXP on a high res monitor (1920x1200)? With respect to the browser issue downthread, try Opera. It has a great scaling feature that will zoom both text and graphics (unlike e.g., Firefox). I can't read tiny text, and have found zooming Opera to be great for my eyes. -- Andy Barss
Guest Phisherman Posted September 18, 2007 Posted September 18, 2007 Re: Any recommendations for using WindowsXP on a high res monitor (1920x1200)? On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 04:15:34 +0000 (UTC), Andrew Barss <barss@mint.u.arizona.edu> wrote: > > > >With respect to the browser issue downthread, try Opera. It has a great >scaling feature that will zoom both text and graphics (unlike e.g., Firefox). >I can't read tiny text, and have found zooming Opera to be great for my eyes. > > > -- Andy Barss Recently, I upgraded to a MS wireless mouse for cheap. One button brings up a magnifier. The magnifier can be resized and the amount of magnification adjusted, all from the mouse. The magnifier works in all applications. Microsoft did a great job.
Guest John Hosking Posted September 18, 2007 Posted September 18, 2007 Re: Any recommendations for using WindowsXP on a high res monitor (1920x1200)? On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 04:15:34 +0000 (UTC), Andrew Barss wrote: > With respect to the browser issue downthread, try Opera. *Which* browser issue? What do you mean, "downthread"? Downthread from your post? You're addressing some browser issue that will be brought up by someone who posts *after* you? -- John (Confused, or agog at Andrew's clairvoyance)
Guest Bergamot Posted September 19, 2007 Posted September 19, 2007 Re: Any recommendations for using WindowsXP on a high res monitor(1920x1200)? Re: Any recommendations for using WindowsXP on a high res monitor(1920x1200)? Andrew Barss wrote: > try Opera. It has a great > scaling feature that will zoom both text and graphics (unlike e.g., Firefox). It's a matter of personal preference. I don't like page zoom because it almost always results in excess horizontal scrolling, which I detest. Text zoom usually doesn't cause any additional horizontal scrolling, except when widths are set in em units, then it can suck either way. -- Berg
Guest messed-up@mail.com Posted September 23, 2007 Posted September 23, 2007 Re: Any recommendations for using WindowsXP on a high res monitor (1920x1200)? FIREFOX Very much like Netscape (I think a lot of the code is actually shared. Never quite understood how.) A nice web browser. Like Netscape 7.2, you can zoom to make the font larger. However, unlike Netscape 7.2, it doesn't tell you how zoomed in or out you are. You can use + or -, but there's no option I know of to say "Go back to regulatr 100% size". Go back to regular 100 % is Ctrl + 0, same in Abobe programs -- --------------------------------- --- -- - Posted with NewsLeecher v3.9 Beta 5 Web @ http://www.newsleecher.com/?usenet ------------------- ----- ---- -- -
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