Guest Barbara M Posted September 15, 2007 Posted September 15, 2007 Dumb question, but have never done this...how do I recall a SENT email? I use aol and can do it when email is another aol user, but don't know how to recall an email when I sent it to a user other than aol.
Guest Ken Blake, MVP Posted September 15, 2007 Posted September 15, 2007 Re: RECALL EMAIL On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 15:16:01 -0700, Barbara M <BarbaraM@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > Dumb question, but have never done this...how do I recall a SENT email? I > use aol and can do it when email is another aol user, but don't know how to > recall an email when I sent it to a user other than aol. I don't know anything about AOL, and how or whether you can do anything there, but in general you can not do this. Once an E-mail message is sent, it's sent. It's much like putting a snail-mail letter in a mailbox. Once it goes down the slot, it's gone. -- Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User Please Reply to the Newsgroup
Guest Barbara M Posted September 15, 2007 Posted September 15, 2007 Re: RECALL EMAIL Can't be...when I worked, we had Windows and always had the option to recall an email IF the recipient did not yet open it. Just can't figure out how to do that here at home. "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote: > On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 15:16:01 -0700, Barbara M > <BarbaraM@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > > > Dumb question, but have never done this...how do I recall a SENT email? I > > use aol and can do it when email is another aol user, but don't know how to > > recall an email when I sent it to a user other than aol. > > > I don't know anything about AOL, and how or whether you can do > anything there, but in general you can not do this. Once an E-mail > message is sent, it's sent. It's much like putting a snail-mail letter > in a mailbox. Once it goes down the slot, it's gone. > > -- > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User > Please Reply to the Newsgroup >
Guest db ´¯`·.. > Posted September 15, 2007 Posted September 15, 2007 Re: RECALL EMAIL this only possible with email that stays on your corporate server. the www has different rules.. -- db ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·..><)))º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><)))º>¸. ><)))º>·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. ><)))º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><)))º> .. "Barbara M" <BarbaraM@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:C10FFCC7-9B7A-4D54-AB11-BBE7C60BF896@microsoft.com... > Can't be...when I worked, we had Windows and always had the option to recall > an email IF the recipient did not yet open it. Just can't figure out how to > do that here at home. > > "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote: > >> On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 15:16:01 -0700, Barbara M >> <BarbaraM@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >> >> > Dumb question, but have never done this...how do I recall a SENT email? I >> > use aol and can do it when email is another aol user, but don't know how to >> > recall an email when I sent it to a user other than aol. >> >> >> I don't know anything about AOL, and how or whether you can do >> anything there, but in general you can not do this. Once an E-mail >> message is sent, it's sent. It's much like putting a snail-mail letter >> in a mailbox. Once it goes down the slot, it's gone. >> >> -- >> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User >> Please Reply to the Newsgroup >>
Guest Curt Christianson Posted September 15, 2007 Posted September 15, 2007 Re: RECALL EMAIL Barbara, I agree with Ken. I don't recall any longer how AOL handles e-mail, but Windows and Outlook Express (Windows e-mail client) does *not* have the provision for recalling an e-mail once you click the "Send" button. -- HTH, Curt Windows Support Center http://www.aumha.org Practically Nerded,... http://dundats.mvps.org/Index.htm "Barbara M" <BarbaraM@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:C10FFCC7-9B7A-4D54-AB11-BBE7C60BF896@microsoft.com... | Can't be...when I worked, we had Windows and always had the option to recall | an email IF the recipient did not yet open it. Just can't figure out how to | do that here at home. | | "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote: | | > On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 15:16:01 -0700, Barbara M | > <BarbaraM@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: | > | > > Dumb question, but have never done this...how do I recall a SENT email? I | > > use aol and can do it when email is another aol user, but don't know how to | > > recall an email when I sent it to a user other than aol. | > | > | > I don't know anything about AOL, and how or whether you can do | > anything there, but in general you can not do this. Once an E-mail | > message is sent, it's sent. It's much like putting a snail-mail letter | > in a mailbox. Once it goes down the slot, it's gone. | > | > -- | > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User | > Please Reply to the Newsgroup | >
Guest Zilbandy Posted September 15, 2007 Posted September 15, 2007 Re: RECALL EMAIL On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 15:58:02 -0700, Barbara M <BarbaraM@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >Can't be...when I worked, we had Windows and always had the option to recall >an email IF the recipient did not yet open it. Just can't figure out how to >do that here at home. That may have been a function of your local network. In general, once sent, it's gone. In AOL's case, their "Unsend" function is part of the AOL network. Like you said, if you send outside of the AOL domain, it's not unsendable. -- Zilbandy
Guest Gord Dibben Posted September 15, 2007 Posted September 15, 2007 Re: RECALL EMAIL Perhaps this will shed some light on your query. Features that are available when you use Outlook with Exchange Server http://support.microsoft.com/kb/290854/en-us Gord Dibben MS Excel MVP On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 15:58:02 -0700, Barbara M <BarbaraM@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >Can't be...when I worked, we had Windows and always had the option to recall >an email IF the recipient did not yet open it. Just can't figure out how to >do that here at home. > >"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote: > >> On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 15:16:01 -0700, Barbara M >> <BarbaraM@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >> >> > Dumb question, but have never done this...how do I recall a SENT email? I >> > use aol and can do it when email is another aol user, but don't know how to >> > recall an email when I sent it to a user other than aol. >> >> >> I don't know anything about AOL, and how or whether you can do >> anything there, but in general you can not do this. Once an E-mail >> message is sent, it's sent. It's much like putting a snail-mail letter >> in a mailbox. Once it goes down the slot, it's gone. >> >> -- >> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User >> Please Reply to the Newsgroup >>
Guest Patrick Keenan Posted September 16, 2007 Posted September 16, 2007 Re: RECALL EMAIL "Barbara M" <BarbaraM@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:C10FFCC7-9B7A-4D54-AB11-BBE7C60BF896@microsoft.com... > Can't be...when I worked, we had Windows and always had the option to > recall > an email IF the recipient did not yet open it. Just can't figure out how > to > do that here at home. IIRC, that is a feature of MS exchange server. It won't apply to AOL or any other mail system. HTH -pk > > "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote: > >> On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 15:16:01 -0700, Barbara M >> <BarbaraM@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >> >> > Dumb question, but have never done this...how do I recall a SENT email? >> > I >> > use aol and can do it when email is another aol user, but don't know >> > how to >> > recall an email when I sent it to a user other than aol. >> >> >> I don't know anything about AOL, and how or whether you can do >> anything there, but in general you can not do this. Once an E-mail >> message is sent, it's sent. It's much like putting a snail-mail letter >> in a mailbox. Once it goes down the slot, it's gone. >> >> -- >> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User >> Please Reply to the Newsgroup >>
Guest Ken Blake, MVP Posted September 16, 2007 Posted September 16, 2007 Re: RECALL EMAIL On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 15:58:02 -0700, Barbara M <BarbaraM@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > Can't be...when I worked, we had Windows and always had the option to recall > an email IF the recipient did not yet open it. Just can't figure out how to > do that here at home. OK, have it your way. Your choice. Feel free to disregard what I said. > "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote: > > > On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 15:16:01 -0700, Barbara M > > <BarbaraM@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > > > > > Dumb question, but have never done this...how do I recall a SENT email? I > > > use aol and can do it when email is another aol user, but don't know how to > > > recall an email when I sent it to a user other than aol. > > > > > > I don't know anything about AOL, and how or whether you can do > > anything there, but in general you can not do this. Once an E-mail > > message is sent, it's sent. It's much like putting a snail-mail letter > > in a mailbox. Once it goes down the slot, it's gone. > > > > -- > > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User > > Please Reply to the Newsgroup > > -- Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User Please Reply to the Newsgroup
Guest VanguardLH Posted September 16, 2007 Posted September 16, 2007 Re: RECALL EMAIL "Barbara M" wrote in message news:C10FFCC7-9B7A-4D54-AB11-BBE7C60BF896@microsoft.com... > Can't be...when I worked, we had Windows and always had the option > to recall > an email IF the recipient did not yet open it. Just can't figure out > how to > do that here at home. Only works if: - Sender sends a recall to the Exchange server. - Recipient uses the same Exchange organization as the sender. - Recipient must open the recall e-mail before opening the original e-mail. This usually means the recipient must sort their Inbox in descending received order so it is likely they open your recall before they open the original. - Recipient has no rules that end up moving the e-mail to a different folder than the Inbox upon delivery. Recalls only work if the recall e-mail and original e-mail are both in the Inbox folder. Even with all the above conditions satisfied for sender and recipient within the same Exchange organization, recall is a flaky and unreliable operation. Since you are talking about using SMTP to send your e-mails, recall will not work. The message ID is assigned by the SMTP server at the time it gets the message from the e-mail client to then send it (i.e., the e-mail client is disconnected and it is the mail server that assigned the Message-ID header with a unique value). Your e-mail client won't know what is that server-assigned message ID, so it won't know what to put in the recall header to tell the recipient's e-mail client as to which e-mail to delete (recall). Messages cannot be recalled by using their Subject header since there is no uniqueness to the contents of that header. That is why recall doesn't work if you are using SMTP. When you were using AOL with their proprietary protocol and their proprietary e-mail client, features could've been provided in that mail server and client which are not available when using SMTP, much like Exchange has features that SMTP does not have. Private or proprietry protocols can add whatever features they want. SMTP is an open standard thankfully over which Microsoft exercises no control. If AOL is recalling mails between AOL sender and AOL recipient while using SMTP as their transfer protocol then they are making a best-guess at which one to delete in the recipient's mailbox which may not be accurate.
Guest PA Bear Posted September 16, 2007 Posted September 16, 2007 Re: RECALL EMAIL Were you sending via AOL network and using a name@aol.com account at work? -- ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User) since 2002 AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net; DTS-L http://dts-l.org/ Barbara M wrote: > Can't be...when I worked, we had Windows and always had the option to > recall > an email IF the recipient did not yet open it. Just can't figure out how > to > do that here at home. > > "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote: > >> On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 15:16:01 -0700, Barbara M >> <BarbaraM@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >> >>> Dumb question, but have never done this...how do I recall a SENT email? >>> I >>> use aol and can do it when email is another aol user, but don't know how >>> to recall an email when I sent it to a user other than aol. >> >> >> I don't know anything about AOL, and how or whether you can do >> anything there, but in general you can not do this. Once an E-mail >> message is sent, it's sent. It's much like putting a snail-mail letter >> in a mailbox. Once it goes down the slot, it's gone. >> >> -- >> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User >> Please Reply to the Newsgroup
Guest Poprivet Posted September 17, 2007 Posted September 17, 2007 Re: RECALL EMAIL lol, sure can be! You're talking about third party programs and/or possibly an intranet situation instead of an internet situation. Once an email is Sent, you cannot "unsend" it. It's the way the protocol is designed, and always has been. You're somehow mixing up a special setup you had in place as Windows any version can't/has never done that. If AOL allows it, that's interesting, but ... you asked about e-mail, not about AOL communications. AOL is a different animal I admit, but I'm not too sure AOL allows it either. Pop` Barbara M wrote: > Can't be...when I worked, we had Windows and always had the option to > recall an email IF the recipient did not yet open it. Just can't > figure out how to do that here at home. > > "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote: > >> On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 15:16:01 -0700, Barbara M >> <BarbaraM@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >> >>> Dumb question, but have never done this...how do I recall a SENT >>> email? I use aol and can do it when email is another aol user, but >>> don't know how to recall an email when I sent it to a user other >>> than aol. >> >> >> I don't know anything about AOL, and how or whether you can do >> anything there, but in general you can not do this. Once an E-mail >> message is sent, it's sent. It's much like putting a snail-mail >> letter in a mailbox. Once it goes down the slot, it's gone. >> >> -- >> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User >> Please Reply to the Newsgroup
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