Guest mae Posted September 16, 2007 Posted September 16, 2007 Re: trojan inbedded in Microsoft update Since you don't provide: the information of which antivirus you use. nor the full name of the virus it detected. You must have an outdated antivirus or like this: http://www.f-secure.com/v-descs/trojan-dropper_w32_agent_blk.shtml -- mae "FIsc" <Linda.De.Coster@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1189961601.637781.5050@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com... | This is the second time I received a warning from my anti virus | software telling me a trojan is present in a Microsoft update. | ( Trojan-Dropper.Win32.Agent ) | | What is this company doing? |
Guest FIsc Posted September 16, 2007 Posted September 16, 2007 Re: trojan inbedded in Microsoft update On 16 sep, 23:25, "Robert Moir" <use...@REMOVE2EMAILrobertmoir.com> wrote: > "Augustus" <no_...@nowhere.net> wrote in message > > news:EneHi.51848$bO6.34102@edtnps89... > > > >I vehemently disagree! I think its probability is: > >> Trojan present in download from Microsoft .000000000000000000000000001% > >> AV program problem .99999999999999999999999999% > > > Really? Can you document or cite any valid link or legitimate article that > > shows that MS has ever knowingly or unknowingly had a virus, trojan or > > malware embedded in an update made and released by them from their own > > servers? I keenly await your citations and references.... > > Microsoft have released virus-infected downloads (not in updates IIRC) in > the past. The chance of them doing it these days is extremely low, no > arguements there. It is not, however, zero. > > No software, no person, no process is perfect. Take a look at the AV > software that started the thread, unless it's the made-up ravings of a > deluded troll, chances are they're using software that is currently not > working 100% correctly despite how much they obviously trust it. As if all anti virus software is that reliable? Magic Lantern doesn't ring any bells? When anti virus software is especially excluding to look for specific virus descriptions, can you even be 100% another company is distributing software infested with an (own) "home made" part?
Guest Laughingstar~* Posted September 16, 2007 Posted September 16, 2007 Re: trojan inbedded in Microsoft update DITTO! Ariel "Curt Christianson" <curtchristnsn@NOSPAM.Yahoo.com> wrote in message news:erqYueK%23HHA.5464@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > LOL > > -- > HTH, > Curt > > Windows Support Center > http://www.aumha.org > Practically Nerded,... > http://dundats.mvps.org/Index.htm > > "HeyBub" <heybub@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:e1rbSZK%23HHA.3548@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > | FIsc wrote: > | > This is the second time I received a warning from my anti virus > | > software telling me a trojan is present in a Microsoft update. > | > ( Trojan-Dropper.Win32.Agent ) > | > > | > What is this company doing? > | > | Dunno. > | > | I'd have gotten rid of that POS virus-warning program the FIRST time it > | flagged a Microsoft update as malware. > | > | > >
Guest PA Bear Posted September 16, 2007 Posted September 16, 2007 Re: trojan inbedded in Microsoft update Then OP will hear nothing further from me about this FUD. Curt Christianson wrote: > You'll be waiting a long time for an answer Bear. > > > "PA Bear" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:%23zxmluI%23HHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> What anti-virus application? Which update? >> -- >> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) >> MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User) since 2002 >> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net; DTS-L http://dts-l.org/ >> >> FIsc wrote: >>> This is the second time I received a warning from my anti virus >>> software telling me a trojan is present in a Microsoft update. >>> ( Trojan-Dropper.Win32.Agent ) >>> >>> What is this company doing?
Guest NoConsequence Posted September 17, 2007 Posted September 17, 2007 Re: trojan inbedded in Microsoft update On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 13:44:59 -0700, FIsc <Linda.De.Coster@gmail.com> wrote: >On 16 sep, 22:11, "Pegasus \(MVP\)" <I....@fly.com> wrote: > >> >> > The information together with the detailed result screen of the scan >> > in question was forwarded, as requested. >> >> *** Forwarded to whom? Where is it? >> >> > None of the regular anti virus softwareis even showing this type of >> > trojan YET. >> >> *** So what makes you so confident that it is a trojan included >> *** with a Microsoft update? It is far more likely that your >> *** mysterious virus scanner has reported a false positive. > >Someone asked it and received the information. Yea sure. Someone making this post is an idiot...oh, wait, THAT'S YOU. >I already mentioned a few years ago your regular American >antivriusprograms found for instance at a given moment the latest type >of Klez virus. > >Only 1 antivirus developer offered a solution to remove it, this >wasn't Norton nor any other American antivirus software developer. > >You cannot even find a discription for the type of trojan in these >anti virus programs as well. If you cannot find any reference to it, >would you say they even know what to look for? OK, if the AV is so fantastic why have you refused multiple times to name it? Not that I expect any real answers from you.
Guest HeyBub Posted September 17, 2007 Posted September 17, 2007 Re: trojan inbedded in Microsoft update mae wrote: > Since you don't provide: > the information of which antivirus you use. > nor the full name of the virus it detected. > You must have an outdated antivirus or like this: > http://www.f-secure.com/v-descs/trojan-dropper_w32_agent_blk.shtml > Good catch.
Guest FIsc Posted September 17, 2007 Posted September 17, 2007 Re: trojan inbedded in Microsoft update On 17 sep, 03:25, NoConsequence <n...@none.net> wrote: > On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 13:44:59 -0700, FIsc <Linda.De.Cos...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > >On 16 sep, 22:11, "Pegasus \(MVP\)" <I....@fly.com> wrote: > > >> > The information together with the detailed result screen of the scan > >> > in question was forwarded, as requested. > > >> *** Forwarded to whom? Where is it? > > >> > None of the regular anti virus softwareis even showing this type of > >> > trojan YET. > > >> *** So what makes you so confident that it is a trojan included > >> *** with a Microsoft update? It is far more likely that your > >> *** mysterious virus scanner has reported a false positive. > > >Someone asked it and received the information. > > Yea sure. > > Someone making this post is an idiot...oh, wait, THAT'S YOU. > > >I already mentioned a few years ago your regular American > >antivriusprograms found for instance at a given moment the latest type > >of Klez virus. > > >Only 1 antivirus developer offered a solution to remove it, this > >wasn't Norton nor any other American antivirus software developer. > > >You cannot even find a discription for the type of trojan in these > >anti virus programs as well. If you cannot find any reference to it, > >would you say they even know what to look for? > > OK, if the AV is so fantastic why have you refused multiple times to > name it? > > Not that I expect any real answers from you. There is something to be learned from this thread. These self proclaimed Microsoft consultants don't need full information to decide on something. Without seeing anything any problem is a non problem, especially when it is related with the firm they are consultants for. This tells a lot about the validity of their advices.
Guest Pegasus \(MVP\) Posted September 17, 2007 Posted September 17, 2007 Re: trojan inbedded in Microsoft update "FIsc" <Linda.De.Coster@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1190024110.860988.296580@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com... > On 17 sep, 03:25, NoConsequence <n...@none.net> wrote: >> On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 13:44:59 -0700, FIsc <Linda.De.Cos...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >On 16 sep, 22:11, "Pegasus \(MVP\)" <I....@fly.com> wrote: >> >> >> > The information together with the detailed result screen of the scan >> >> > in question was forwarded, as requested. >> >> >> *** Forwarded to whom? Where is it? >> >> >> > None of the regular anti virus softwareis even showing this type of >> >> > trojan YET. >> >> >> *** So what makes you so confident that it is a trojan included >> >> *** with a Microsoft update? It is far more likely that your >> >> *** mysterious virus scanner has reported a false positive. >> >> >Someone asked it and received the information. >> >> Yea sure. >> >> Someone making this post is an idiot...oh, wait, THAT'S YOU. >> >> >I already mentioned a few years ago your regular American >> >antivriusprograms found for instance at a given moment the latest type >> >of Klez virus. >> >> >Only 1 antivirus developer offered a solution to remove it, this >> >wasn't Norton nor any other American antivirus software developer. >> >> >You cannot even find a discription for the type of trojan in these >> >anti virus programs as well. If you cannot find any reference to it, >> >would you say they even know what to look for? >> >> OK, if the AV is so fantastic why have you refused multiple times to >> name it? >> >> Not that I expect any real answers from you. > > There is something to be learned from this thread. These self > proclaimed Microsoft consultants don't need full information to decide > on something. *** Wrong. Everyobody has asked you for full information *** in order to test the validity of your complaint. You *** consistently refuse to supply this information. Why? > Without seeing anything any problem is a non problem, especially when > it is related with the firm they are consultants for. *** Most if not all respondents in this thread are volunteers. *** They do NOT work for Microsoft and receive no money *** from Microsoft for their efforts. > This tells a lot about the validity of their advices. *** Your persistent refusal to substantiate your claim tells *** a lot about you. Put your money where your mouth is!
Guest Curt Christianson Posted September 17, 2007 Posted September 17, 2007 Re: trojan inbedded in Microsoft update You must be off your medication again, as you are certainly suffering from delusions. -- HTH, Curt Windows Support Center http://www.aumha.org Practically Nerded,... http://dundats.mvps.org/Index.htm "FIsc" <Linda.De.Coster@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1190024110.860988.296580@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com... | On 17 sep, 03:25, NoConsequence <n...@none.net> wrote: | > On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 13:44:59 -0700, FIsc <Linda.De.Cos...@gmail.com> | > wrote: | > | > | > | > >On 16 sep, 22:11, "Pegasus \(MVP\)" <I....@fly.com> wrote: | > | > >> > The information together with the detailed result screen of the scan | > >> > in question was forwarded, as requested. | > | > >> *** Forwarded to whom? Where is it? | > | > >> > None of the regular anti virus softwareis even showing this type of | > >> > trojan YET. | > | > >> *** So what makes you so confident that it is a trojan included | > >> *** with a Microsoft update? It is far more likely that your | > >> *** mysterious virus scanner has reported a false positive. | > | > >Someone asked it and received the information. | > | > Yea sure. | > | > Someone making this post is an idiot...oh, wait, THAT'S YOU. | > | > >I already mentioned a few years ago your regular American | > >antivriusprograms found for instance at a given moment the latest type | > >of Klez virus. | > | > >Only 1 antivirus developer offered a solution to remove it, this | > >wasn't Norton nor any other American antivirus software developer. | > | > >You cannot even find a discription for the type of trojan in these | > >anti virus programs as well. If you cannot find any reference to it, | > >would you say they even know what to look for? | > | > OK, if the AV is so fantastic why have you refused multiple times to | > name it? | > | > Not that I expect any real answers from you. | | There is something to be learned from this thread. These self | proclaimed Microsoft consultants don't need full information to decide | on something. | | Without seeing anything any problem is a non problem, especially when | it is related with the firm they are consultants for. | | This tells a lot about the validity of their advices. |
Guest FIsc Posted September 17, 2007 Posted September 17, 2007 Re: trojan inbedded in Microsoft update On 17 sep, 12:42, "Curt Christianson" <curtchrist...@NOSPAM.Yahoo.com> wrote: > You must be off your medication again, as you are certainly suffering from > delusions. > > -- > HTH, > Curt > > Windows Support Centerwww.aumha.org > Practically Nerded,...http://dundats.mvps.org/Index.htm > > "FIsc" <Linda.De.Cos...@gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:1190024110.860988.296580@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com... > | On 17 sep, 03:25, NoConsequence <n...@none.net> wrote: > | > On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 13:44:59 -0700, FIsc <Linda.De.Cos...@gmail.com>| > wrote: > > | > > | > > | > > | > >On 16 sep, 22:11, "Pegasus \(MVP\)" <I....@fly.com> wrote: > | > > | > >> > The information together with the detailed result screen of the > scan > | > >> > in question was forwarded, as requested. > | > > | > >> *** Forwarded to whom? Where is it? > | > > | > >> > None of the regular anti virus softwareis even showing this type of > | > >> > trojan YET. > | > > | > >> *** So what makes you so confident that it is a trojan included > | > >> *** with a Microsoft update? It is far more likely that your > | > >> *** mysterious virus scanner has reported a false positive. > | > > | > >Someone asked it and received the information. > | > > | > Yea sure. > | > > | > Someone making this post is an idiot...oh, wait, THAT'S YOU. > | > > | > >I already mentioned a few years ago your regular American > | > >antivriusprograms found for instance at a given moment the latest type > | > >of Klez virus. > | > > | > >Only 1 antivirus developer offered a solution to remove it, this > | > >wasn't Norton nor any other American antivirus software developer. > | > > | > >You cannot even find a discription for the type of trojan in these > | > >anti virus programs as well. If you cannot find any reference to it, > | > >would you say they even know what to look for? > | > > | > OK, if the AV is so fantastic why have you refused multiple times to > | > name it? > | > > | > Not that I expect any real answers from you. > | > | There is something to be learned from this thread. These self > | proclaimed Microsoft consultants don't need full information to decide > | on something. > | > | Without seeing anything any problem is a non problem, especially when > | it is related with the firm they are consultants for. > | > | This tells a lot about the validity of their advices. > | Right, just continue killing the messenger, especially if you don't like the message itself. Your comments have been weighted. One advice, continue your education because you are lacking some basic ethics.
Guest Pegasus \(MVP\) Posted September 17, 2007 Posted September 17, 2007 Re: trojan inbedded in Microsoft update > One advice, continue your education because you are lacking some basic > ethics. > Whereas in your case I recommend an intensive course in spelling. On the other hand you get top honours in the subject "Advanced Evasive Methods".
Guest FIsc Posted September 17, 2007 Posted September 17, 2007 Re: trojan inbedded in Microsoft update On 17 sep, 13:47, "Pegasus \(MVP\)" <I....@fly.com> wrote: > > One advice, continue your education because you are lacking some basic > > ethics. > > Whereas in your case I recommend an intensive course in > spelling. On the other hand you get top honours in the > subject "Advanced Evasive Methods". On continue en français? Of prefereer je Nederlands? Let's see who is badly in need of some language courses? I guess some sarcasm is in place: Bush, the former UK prime Minister Blair and the European Union President are walking on a beach when they discover a genie's lamp. Bush rubs the lamp and the genie appears in a puff of blue smoke. She announces to the trio that they will receive a total of three wishes, one each, so they should consider their wishes wisely. However there is one catch: the wishes should offer more advantages to the rest of the world than towards their own regions. Blair is first, and asks the genie to make his country fruitful, his countrywomen beautiful and his traditions preserved. The genie grants the wish. Bush is second. "I'm sick and tired of my homeland enduring the risk of being attacked. I would like an impenetrable wall built to protect my beloved USA, one which no one can scale." The genie grants the wish. The European thinks for a moment, and asks the genie, "I'm curious about this wall. How big is it?" The genie replies, "The wall around the UQ is 300 feet high and 100 feet thick. It cannot be penetrated from either side, or climbed, and all the American people are safe inside." "Great," says the European. "Fill it with water."
Guest Bob I Posted September 17, 2007 Posted September 17, 2007 Re: trojan inbedded in Microsoft update FIsc wrote: > On 17 sep, 13:47, "Pegasus \(MVP\)" <I....@fly.com> wrote: > >>>One advice, continue your education because you are lacking some basic >>>ethics. >> >>Whereas in your case I recommend an intensive course in >>spelling. On the other hand you get top honours in the >>subject "Advanced Evasive Methods". > > > On continue en français? Of prefereer je Nederlands? > > Let's see who is badly in need of some language courses? > > > I guess some sarcasm is in place: > > Bush, the former UK prime Minister Blair and the European Union > President are walking on a beach when they discover a genie's lamp. > Bush rubs the lamp and the genie appears in a puff of blue smoke. She > announces to the trio that they will receive a total of three wishes, > one each, so they should consider their wishes wisely. However there > is one catch: the wishes should offer more advantages to the rest of > the world than towards their own regions. > > Blair is first, and asks the genie to make his country fruitful, his > countrywomen beautiful and his traditions preserved. The genie grants > the wish. > > Bush is second. "I'm sick and tired of my homeland enduring the risk > of being attacked. I would like an impenetrable wall built to protect > my beloved USA, one which no one can scale." The genie grants the > wish. > > The European thinks for a moment, and asks the genie, "I'm curious > about this wall. How big is it?" The genie replies, "The wall around > the UQ is 300 feet high and 100 feet thick. It cannot be penetrated > from either side, or climbed, and all the American people are safe > inside." "Great," says the European. "Fill it with water." > And the genie promptly filled the larger volume with water as the small one was no challenge.
Guest The poster formerly known as 'The Poster Formerly Posted September 17, 2007 Posted September 17, 2007 Re: trojan inbedded in Microsoft update Augustus wrote: >> I vehemently disagree! I think its probability is: >> Trojan present in download from Microsoft .000000000000000000000000001% >> AV program problem .99999999999999999999999999% >> > > Really? Can you document or cite any valid link or legitimate article that > shows that MS has ever knowingly or unknowingly had a virus, trojan or > malware embedded in an update made and released by them from their own > servers? I keenly await your citations and references.... > > Microsoft Inadvertently Shares Nimda Worm http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,101930-page,1/article.html -- Priceless quotes in m.p.w.vista.general group: http://protectfreedom.tripod.com/kick.html "Fair use is not merely a nice concept--it is a federal law based on free speech rights under the First Amendment and is a cornerstone of the creativity and innovation that is a hallmark of this country. Consumer rights in the digital age are not frivolous." - Maura Corbett
Guest The poster formerly known as 'The Poster Formerly Posted September 17, 2007 Posted September 17, 2007 Re: trojan inbedded in Microsoft update HeyBub wrote: > FIsc wrote: >> This is the second time I received a warning from my anti virus >> software telling me a trojan is present in a Microsoft update. >> ( Trojan-Dropper.Win32.Agent ) >> >> What is this company doing? > > Dunno. > > I'd have gotten rid of that POS virus-warning program the FIRST time it > flagged a Microsoft update as malware. > > MS updates is malware that automatically updates itself without the user's consent whether they have AU turned on or off. -- Priceless quotes in m.p.w.vista.general group: http://protectfreedom.tripod.com/kick.html "Fair use is not merely a nice concept--it is a federal law based on free speech rights under the First Amendment and is a cornerstone of the creativity and innovation that is a hallmark of this country. Consumer rights in the digital age are not frivolous." - Maura Corbett
Guest The poster formerly known as 'The Poster Formerly Posted September 17, 2007 Posted September 17, 2007 Re: trojan inbedded in Microsoft update Curt Christianson wrote: > You must be off your medication again, as you are certainly suffering from > delusions. > You are not really an MVP, are you?!? -- Priceless quotes in m.p.w.vista.general group: http://protectfreedom.tripod.com/kick.html "Fair use is not merely a nice concept--it is a federal law based on free speech rights under the First Amendment and is a cornerstone of the creativity and innovation that is a hallmark of this country. Consumer rights in the digital age are not frivolous." - Maura Corbett
Guest Pegasus \(MVP\) Posted September 17, 2007 Posted September 17, 2007 Re: trojan inbedded in Microsoft update "FIsc" <Linda.De.Coster@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1190037962.480906.252120@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com... On 17 sep, 13:47, "Pegasus \(MVP\)" <I....@fly.com> wrote: > > One advice, continue your education because you are lacking some basic > > ethics. > > Whereas in your case I recommend an intensive course in > spelling. On the other hand you get top honours in the > subject "Advanced Evasive Methods". On continue en français? Of prefereer je Nederlands? Let's see who is badly in need of some language courses? ======================= Certainement on peut parler français si tu veux. Eller, om du föredrar kan vi tala svenska - inget problem. Am liebsten wäre es mir, wenn Du Deutsch sprechen könntest, denn diese Sprache bereitet mir nicht die geringsten Schwierigkeiten. In other words, you are not the only one to speak several languages. Time to start using your spelling checker. And you still haven't given us any details about your virus scanner.
Guest Doug W. Posted September 17, 2007 Posted September 17, 2007 Re: trojan inbedded in Microsoft update "Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com> wrote in message news:OeiTz4W%23HHA.4880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > > "FIsc" <Linda.De.Coster@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:1190037962.480906.252120@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com... > On 17 sep, 13:47, "Pegasus \(MVP\)" <I....@fly.com> wrote: >> > One advice, continue your education because you are lacking >> > some basic >> > ethics. >> >> Whereas in your case I recommend an intensive course in >> spelling. On the other hand you get top honours in the >> subject "Advanced Evasive Methods". > > On continue en français? Of prefereer je Nederlands? > > Let's see who is badly in need of some language courses? > > ======================= > > Certainement on peut parler français si tu veux. Eller, om du > föredrar kan vi tala svenska - inget problem. Am liebsten wäre > es mir, wenn Du Deutsch sprechen könntest, denn diese Sprache > bereitet mir nicht die geringsten Schwierigkeiten. In other > words, > you are not the only one to speak several languages. Time to > start using your spelling checker. And you still haven't given > us any details about your virus scanner. - Dat's cuz there was no trojan other than one he may have had in his wallet. He is blowing smoke. - > >
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