Guest BigAl.NZ@gmail.com Posted September 16, 2007 Posted September 16, 2007 Hi Folks, Hoping that someone here could please help. I am trying to help a friend setup a home network. They connect to the internet via a Belkin ADSL Modem which has a single ethernet port at the back. I suppose you could call it a Single port router. They got given a D-Link 4 port router with wifi (DI-524 from memory), and this now sits between the PC (WinXP SP2) and the the Belkin ADSL modem. They also have a laptop which connects via the wifi (Vista). The internet appears to work intermittently, it will go for varying lengths of time before you start to receive page cannot be displayed. I have done the most basic of diagnosing when the connection went down: 1. Could ping the D-Link on 192.168.0.1 2. Could ping the Belkin on 10.1.1.1 3. Could not ping a website, using the dns name or the IP (so it would appear not to be a DNS issuse) 4. IPCONFIG showed the PC having a IP assigned Pictorially, the wired PC setup looks like: <PC>----<D-Link router/wifi>----<Belkin>----<Internet> I think (will have to confirm this) that when the internet stops working, I can plug the Belkin directly into the PC and it will work again, so it appears to be some sort of issue between the Belkin and the D-Link? What other testing can I do? Thanks in advance, -Al
Guest R. McCarty Posted September 16, 2007 Posted September 16, 2007 Re: Router--Router--Internet setup not working.... You need to login to the ADSL modem and set it's operational mode to "Bridging". Then use the Router to select PPPOE and provide the master account Username/Password of your ISP to login. As it stands now you're using a double NAT (Network Address Translation) setup. <BigAl.NZ@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1189972952.784233.243730@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com... > Hi Folks, > > Hoping that someone here could please help. > > I am trying to help a friend setup a home network. They connect to the > internet via a Belkin ADSL Modem which has a single ethernet port at > the back. I suppose you could call it a Single port router. > > They got given a D-Link 4 port router with wifi (DI-524 from memory), > and this now sits between the PC (WinXP SP2) and the the Belkin ADSL > modem. They also have a laptop which connects via the wifi (Vista). > > The internet appears to work intermittently, it will go for varying > lengths of time before you start to receive page cannot be displayed. > > I have done the most basic of diagnosing when the connection went > down: > > 1. Could ping the D-Link on 192.168.0.1 > 2. Could ping the Belkin on 10.1.1.1 > 3. Could not ping a website, using the dns name or the IP (so it would > appear not to be a DNS issuse) > 4. IPCONFIG showed the PC having a IP assigned > > Pictorially, the wired PC setup looks like: > > <PC>----<D-Link router/wifi>----<Belkin>----<Internet> > > I think (will have to confirm this) that when the internet stops > working, I can plug the Belkin directly into the PC and it will work > again, so it appears to be some sort of issue between the Belkin and > the D-Link? > > What other testing can I do? > > Thanks in advance, > > -Al >
Guest Elmo Posted September 16, 2007 Posted September 16, 2007 Re: Router--Router--Internet setup not working.... BigAl.NZ@gmail.com wrote: > Hi Folks, > > Hoping that someone here could please help. > > I am trying to help a friend setup a home network. They connect to the > internet via a Belkin ADSL Modem which has a single ethernet port at > the back. I suppose you could call it a Single port router. > > They got given a D-Link 4 port router with wifi (DI-524 from memory), > and this now sits between the PC (WinXP SP2) and the the Belkin ADSL > modem. They also have a laptop which connects via the wifi (Vista). > > The internet appears to work intermittently, it will go for varying > lengths of time before you start to receive page cannot be displayed. > > I have done the most basic of diagnosing when the connection went > down: > > 1. Could ping the D-Link on 192.168.0.1 > 2. Could ping the Belkin on 10.1.1.1 > 3. Could not ping a website, using the dns name or the IP (so it would > appear not to be a DNS issuse) > 4. IPCONFIG showed the PC having a IP assigned > > Pictorially, the wired PC setup looks like: > > <PC>----<D-Link router/wifi>----<Belkin>----<Internet> > > I think (will have to confirm this) that when the internet stops > working, I can plug the Belkin directly into the PC and it will work > again, so it appears to be some sort of issue between the Belkin and > the D-Link? > > What other testing can I do? > > Thanks in advance, > > -Al Open Device Manager, open the properties on your ethernet card, click the Power tab, and deselect "Allow the computer to turn off this device to save power". If it's a USB port rather than an ethernet or NIC, make the same change to all the USB ports. -- Joe =o)
Guest BigAl.NZ@gmail.com Posted September 17, 2007 Posted September 17, 2007 Re: Router--Router--Internet setup not working.... R. McCarty wrote: > You need to login to the ADSL modem and set it's operational mode > to "Bridging". Then use the Router to select PPPOE and provide the > master account Username/Password of your ISP to login. As it stands > now you're using a double NAT (Network Address Translation) setup. We use PPPoATM in NZ - does that matter?
Guest BigAl.NZ@gmail.com Posted September 17, 2007 Posted September 17, 2007 Re: Router--Router--Internet setup not working.... Okay, I have a lot more information. 1. The Belkin is a F5D5730au 2. When I was with the two computers this afternoon, it was not working on either computer, so I unplugged the Belkin from the Dlink and connected straight to the PC - it then worked on the PC. 3. After reconnecting the PC --> Dlink --> Belkin both computers had internet access.... 4. Some screen (sorry about the res) at : BELKIN http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/8255/belkinpg1sl8.jpg http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/6769/belkinpg21wq3.jpg http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/864/belkinpg22ax2.jpg http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/784/belkinpg31ib7.jpg http://img241.imageshack.us/my.php?image=belkinpg41tz6.jpg http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=belkinpg51dj7.jpg D-Link http://img101.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dlinkpg1ss6.jpg http://img241.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dlinkdhcplanns2.jpg Logs from D-Link below - hope this helps? *********** Printout of D-Link System Logs **************** ------------------------------------------------- System Logs ------------------------------------------------- Fri Sep 14 17:59:50 2007 Associated: 00-19-7E-98-62-E1 st=0 Fri Sep 14 17:59:54 2007 DOD:triggered internally Fri Sep 14 17:59:54 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Fri Sep 14 17:59:54 2007 DHCP:offer(10.1.1.1) Fri Sep 14 17:59:54 2007 DHCP:request(10.1.1.2) Fri Sep 14 17:59:54 2007 DHCP:ack(DOL=4294967295,T1=2147483647,T2=3758096384) Fri Sep 14 18:17:13 2007 Connection is broken Fri Sep 14 18:17:13 2007 DHCP:release Fri Sep 14 18:17:15 2007 DOD:192.168.0.187 query DNS for teredo.ipv6.microsoft.com Fri Sep 14 18:17:15 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Fri Sep 14 18:17:19 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Fri Sep 14 18:17:27 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Fri Sep 14 18:17:43 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Fri Sep 14 18:20:38 2007 DOD:192.168.0.187 query DNS for dns.msftncsi.com Fri Sep 14 18:20:38 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Fri Sep 14 18:20:42 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Fri Sep 14 18:20:44 2007 DHCP:offer(10.1.1.1) Fri Sep 14 18:20:44 2007 DHCP:request(10.1.1.2) Fri Sep 14 18:20:46 2007 DHCP:ack(DOL=4294967295,T1=2147483647,T2=3758096384) Fri Sep 14 18:20:53 2007 Syn time: Fri Sep 14 18:20:57 2007 Fri Sep 14 18:36:08 2007 Disassociated: 00-19-7E-98-62-E1 Fri Sep 14 22:36:19 2007 Associated: 00-19-7E-98-62-E1 st=0 Fri Sep 14 22:38:41 2007 Disassociated: 00-19-7E-98-62-E1 Sat Sep 15 09:51:13 2007 Associated: 00-19-7E-98-62-E1 st=0 Sat Sep 15 10:27:32 2007 Disassociated: 00-19-7E-98-62-E1 Sun Sep 16 19:15:30 2007 Associated: 00-19-7E-98-62-E1 st=0 Sun Sep 16 23:01:09 2007 Disassociated: 00-19-7E-98-62-E1 Mon Sep 17 17:20:01 2007 Associated: 00-19-7E-98-62-E1 st=0 Mon Sep 17 17:24:29 2007 Connection is broken Mon Sep 17 17:24:29 2007 DHCP:release Mon Sep 17 17:24:46 2007 DOD:192.168.0.187 query DNS for teredo.ipv6.microsoft.com Mon Sep 17 17:24:46 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:24:50 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:24:58 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:25:14 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:25:46 2007 DOD:triggered internally Mon Sep 17 17:25:46 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:25:50 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:25:58 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:26:14 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:26:46 2007 DOD:triggered internally Mon Sep 17 17:26:46 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:26:50 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:26:58 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:27:14 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:27:46 2007 DOD:triggered internally Mon Sep 17 17:27:46 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:27:50 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:27:58 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:28:14 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:28:46 2007 DOD:192.168.0.187 query DNS for wpad Mon Sep 17 17:28:46 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:28:50 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:28:58 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:29:14 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:29:46 2007 DOD:triggered internally Mon Sep 17 17:29:46 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:29:50 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:29:58 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:30:14 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:30:46 2007 DOD:triggered internally Mon Sep 17 17:30:46 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:30:50 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:30:58 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:31:14 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:31:46 2007 DOD:triggered internally Mon Sep 17 17:31:46 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:31:50 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:31:58 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:32:14 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:32:46 2007 DOD:triggered internally Mon Sep 17 17:32:46 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:32:50 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:32:58 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:33:14 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:33:46 2007 DOD:192.168.0.187 query DNS for wpad Mon Sep 17 17:33:46 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:33:50 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:33:58 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:34:14 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:34:46 2007 DOD:192.168.0.187 query DNS for wpad Mon Sep 17 17:34:46 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:34:50 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:34:58 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:35:14 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:35:46 2007 DOD:triggered internally Mon Sep 17 17:35:46 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:35:50 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:35:58 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:36:14 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:36:46 2007 DOD:triggered internally Mon Sep 17 17:36:46 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:36:50 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:36:58 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:37:14 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:41:13 2007 DOD:192.168.0.187 query DNS for http://www.symantec.com Mon Sep 17 17:41:13 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:41:17 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:41:25 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:41:41 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:42:14 2007 DOD:192.168.0.187 query DNS for wpad Mon Sep 17 17:42:14 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:42:18 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:42:26 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:42:42 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:43:14 2007 DOD:192.168.0.187 query DNS for wpad Mon Sep 17 17:43:14 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:43:18 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:43:26 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:43:42 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:44:15 2007 DOD:192.168.0.187 query DNS for wpad Mon Sep 17 17:44:15 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:44:19 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:44:27 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:44:43 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:45:15 2007 DOD:192.168.0.187 query DNS for wpad Mon Sep 17 17:45:15 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:45:19 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:45:27 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:45:43 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:46:15 2007 DOD:192.168.0.187 query DNS for wpad Mon Sep 17 17:46:15 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:46:19 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:46:27 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:46:43 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:47:15 2007 DOD:192.168.0.187 query DNS for wpad Mon Sep 17 17:47:15 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:47:19 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:47:27 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:47:43 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:48:15 2007 DOD:192.168.0.187 query DNS for wpad Mon Sep 17 17:48:15 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:48:19 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:48:27 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:48:43 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:49:15 2007 DOD:192.168.0.187 query DNS for wpad Mon Sep 17 17:49:15 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:49:19 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:49:27 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:49:43 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:50:15 2007 DOD:192.168.0.187 query DNS for wpad Mon Sep 17 17:50:15 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:50:19 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:50:27 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:50:43 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:51:15 2007 DOD:192.168.0.187 query DNS for wpad Mon Sep 17 17:51:15 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:51:19 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:51:27 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:51:43 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:52:15 2007 DOD:192.168.0.187 query DNS for wpad Mon Sep 17 17:52:15 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:52:19 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:52:27 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:52:43 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 17:53:00 2007 Disassociated: 00-19-7E-98-62-E1 Mon Sep 17 18:06:45 2007 DOD:192.168.0.146 query DNS for http://www.microsoft.com Mon Sep 17 18:06:45 2007 DHCP:discover(zeeman) Mon Sep 17 18:06:45 2007 DHCP:offer(10.1.1.1) Mon Sep 17 18:06:45 2007 DHCP:request(10.1.1.2) Mon Sep 17 18:06:45 2007 DHCP:ack(DOL=4294967295,T1=2147483647,T2=3758096384) Mon Sep 17 18:06:46 2007 Syn time: Mon Sep 17 18:06:46 2007 Mon Sep 17 18:07:00 2007 Associated: 00-19-7E-98-62-E1 st=0
Guest BigAl.NZ@gmail.com Posted September 17, 2007 Posted September 17, 2007 Re: Router--Router--Internet setup not working.... Oh and autoreconnect on the WAN page of the Dlink was disabled, so I enabled it. -Al
Guest BigAl.NZ@gmail.com Posted September 18, 2007 Posted September 18, 2007 Re: Router--Router--Internet setup not working.... On Sep 17, 7:32 pm, BigAl...@gmail.com wrote: > Oh and autoreconnect on the WAN page of the Dlink was disabled, so I > enabled it. > > -Al The internet connection was lost again tonight. I tried a tracert and got a reply from 192.168.0.1 and 10.1.1.1 but nothing after that.... -Al
Guest Peter Pan Posted September 19, 2007 Posted September 19, 2007 Re: Router--Router--Internet setup not working.... BigAl.NZ@gmail.com wrote: > On Sep 17, 7:32 pm, BigAl...@gmail.com wrote: >> Oh and autoreconnect on the WAN page of the Dlink was disabled, so I >> enabled it. >> >> -Al > > The internet connection was lost again tonight. > > I tried a tracert and got a reply from 192.168.0.1 and 10.1.1.1 but > nothing after that.... > > -Al Just out of curiosity, what happens if you unplug/replug the wap (not the cable/dsl modem)? I used to have that at my old house (something wierd about the power), and got one of those lamp timers to turn it off/backon at odd hours of the day
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