Guest mer53 Posted September 16, 2007 Posted September 16, 2007 I have a broken pc (motherboard failure) which I have subsequently fixed (replaced motherboard. now windows refuses to boot. have searched online and if I had a xp home disk I could do a windows repair but all I have is three restore discs from the pc manufacturer with unuseable files (as they will only work with original hardware). where can I get hold of an xp image/ disc legally -as I have a valid product id? Thanks
Guest Paul Randall Posted September 16, 2007 Posted September 16, 2007 Re: xp home software If your old PC was a brand name like HP/Compaq/Sony/etc, then you probably had an OEM product, and the product key is on a sticker attached to the computer. If you can find anyone with a full OEM install CD, you should be able to use it to install XP on your computer. Try it by formatting an old/spare/temporary drive and doin the install. Make sure you use your key from the sticker on your machine. You don't want to screw up your friend's activation. If the CD was for the same brand, you may not be required to activate. If your old PC had a retail full or upgrade license, then you need to find the same type of installation CD. You cannot mismatch product key and oen/full/upgrade type. OEM installation CDs come as either generic or associated with some particular brand of OS. I believe either CD can be installed using a valid product key that came with either type. "mer53" <mer53@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:CF7463BE-5323-4838-9C49-604AB755D9FD@microsoft.com... >I have a broken pc (motherboard failure) which I have subsequently fixed > (replaced motherboard. now windows refuses to boot. have searched online > and > if I had a xp home disk I could do a windows repair but all I have is > three > restore discs from the pc manufacturer with unuseable files (as they will > only work with original hardware). > > where can I get hold of an xp image/ disc legally -as I have a valid > product > id? > > Thanks
Guest Harry Ohrn Posted September 16, 2007 Posted September 16, 2007 Re: xp home software swapping out a motherboard often requires that you do a Repair in order to rebuild the HAL but some brand name computers come with an OEM version of XP installed that is BIOS locked. If you swap out the motherboard the OEM version of XP that was installed won't accept a Repair Install. If the Product Key you refer to is on a sticker attached to the computer when you bought then it might not work with any other version of XP either. -- Harry Ohrn MS MVP [shell\User] http://www.webtree.ca/windowsxp "mer53" <mer53@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:CF7463BE-5323-4838-9C49-604AB755D9FD@microsoft.com... >I have a broken pc (motherboard failure) which I have subsequently fixed > (replaced motherboard. now windows refuses to boot. have searched online > and > if I had a xp home disk I could do a windows repair but all I have is > three > restore discs from the pc manufacturer with unuseable files (as they will > only work with original hardware). > > where can I get hold of an xp image/ disc legally -as I have a valid > product > id? > > Thanks
Guest mer53 Posted September 17, 2007 Posted September 17, 2007 Re: xp home software Why does haveing a valid product key not automatically entitle me to reinstall the appropriate software on any subsequent pc I own. I purchased said OS as part of a system- it should be compatible with any component I decide to upgrade with - inc. motherboard. is this a flaw made by microsoft or one created by the system manufacturer (under license from Microsoft)??? What a complete pain in the behind. no wonder piracy is so prolific. "Harry Ohrn" wrote: > swapping out a motherboard often requires that you do a Repair in order to > rebuild the HAL but some brand name computers come with an OEM version of XP > installed that is BIOS locked. If you swap out the motherboard the OEM > version of XP that was installed won't accept a Repair Install. If the > Product Key you refer to is on a sticker attached to the computer when you > bought then it might not work with any other version of XP either. > -- > > > Harry Ohrn MS MVP [shell\User] > http://www.webtree.ca/windowsxp > > > "mer53" <mer53@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:CF7463BE-5323-4838-9C49-604AB755D9FD@microsoft.com... > >I have a broken pc (motherboard failure) which I have subsequently fixed > > (replaced motherboard. now windows refuses to boot. have searched online > > and > > if I had a xp home disk I could do a windows repair but all I have is > > three > > restore discs from the pc manufacturer with unuseable files (as they will > > only work with original hardware). > > > > where can I get hold of an xp image/ disc legally -as I have a valid > > product > > id? > > > > Thanks > > >
Guest Harry Ohrn Posted September 17, 2007 Posted September 17, 2007 Re: xp home software Not a flaw. It is by design. Microsoft does not BIOS lock the OS. That is done by certain OEM's. Not all OEM's BIOS lock though. FWIW you don't purchase software you simply purchase a license to use it. Different licenses have different restrictions. You purchase a computer with XP preinstalled by the manufacturer. The manufacturer spells out what you can do with said software. Licensing restrictions are not unique to software. I may have a license to drive a car but that doesn't mean I can drive a taxi with that the same license even if I own a Taxi company. Bank Cards are not owned by the individual they are the property of the Bank. You might think you own your house but you cannot legally make structural changes without permits from the City. The examples go on and on. Life become easier to live when we let go of the huge sense of entitlement that most North Americans carry around with us. Harry Ohrn MS MVP [shell\User] http://www.webtree.ca/windowsxp "mer53" <mer53@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:20D6944D-5AFF-46C2-B276-4C75CC9C0695@microsoft.com... > Why does haveing a valid product key not automatically entitle me to > reinstall the appropriate software on any subsequent pc I own. I purchased > said OS as part of a system- it should be compatible with any component I > decide to upgrade with - inc. motherboard. is this a flaw made by > microsoft > or one created by the system manufacturer (under license from > Microsoft)??? > What a complete pain in the behind. no wonder piracy is so prolific. > > "Harry Ohrn" wrote: > >> swapping out a motherboard often requires that you do a Repair in order >> to >> rebuild the HAL but some brand name computers come with an OEM version of >> XP >> installed that is BIOS locked. If you swap out the motherboard the OEM >> version of XP that was installed won't accept a Repair Install. If the >> Product Key you refer to is on a sticker attached to the computer when >> you >> bought then it might not work with any other version of XP either. >> -- >> >> >> Harry Ohrn MS MVP [shell\User] >> http://www.webtree.ca/windowsxp >> >> >> "mer53" <mer53@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:CF7463BE-5323-4838-9C49-604AB755D9FD@microsoft.com... >> >I have a broken pc (motherboard failure) which I have subsequently fixed >> > (replaced motherboard. now windows refuses to boot. have searched >> > online >> > and >> > if I had a xp home disk I could do a windows repair but all I have is >> > three >> > restore discs from the pc manufacturer with unuseable files (as they >> > will >> > only work with original hardware). >> > >> > where can I get hold of an xp image/ disc legally -as I have a valid >> > product >> > id? >> > >> > Thanks >> >> >>
Guest WaIIy Posted September 17, 2007 Posted September 17, 2007 Re: xp home software On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 22:07:40 -0600, "Harry Ohrn" <harry---@webtree.ca> wrote: >Life >become easier to live when we let go of the huge sense of entitlement that >most North Americans carry around with us. Hmmm.... I agree, it's pretty crazy to think when you buy software, that you actually own it. I have to get rid of that sense of entitlement I have. I changed the tires, radio, brakes and muffler on my Ford and now it won't start. Ford told me I was trying to get it on "Pinks" and they didn't like that. Don't let that MVP stuff go to your head.
Guest WaIIy Posted September 17, 2007 Posted September 17, 2007 Re: xp home software On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 22:07:40 -0600, "Harry Ohrn" <harry---@webtree.ca> wrote: >You >might think you own your house but you cannot legally make structural >changes without permits from the City. True, but if you remodel your kitchen and bathroom, the doors don't close and lock you out of your house.
Guest Harry Ohrn Posted September 17, 2007 Posted September 17, 2007 Re: xp home software "WaIIy" <eIvez@ChangeThisPart.com> wrote in message news:dd2se3930pri8om5ido79j5s3ipp91ancv@4ax.com... > On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 22:07:40 -0600, "Harry Ohrn" <harry---@webtree.ca> > wrote: > >>You >>might think you own your house but you cannot legally make structural >>changes without permits from the City. > > True, but if you remodel your kitchen and bathroom, the doors don't > close and lock you out of your house. And not all changes made to your system's hardware locks you out of XP. Harry Ohrn MS MVP [shell\User]
Guest Harry Ohrn Posted September 17, 2007 Posted September 17, 2007 Re: xp home software "WaIIy" <eIvez@ChangeThisPart.com> wrote in message news:d32se35dt88t8qqcdiv8so5t1aaf3qnd7s@4ax.com... > On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 22:07:40 -0600, "Harry Ohrn" <harry---@webtree.ca> > wrote: > >>Life >>become easier to live when we let go of the huge sense of entitlement that >>most North Americans carry around with us. > > Hmmm.... I agree, it's pretty crazy to think when you buy software, that > you actually own it. I have to get rid of that sense of entitlement I > have. > You don't have to get rid of your sense of entitlement. I'm saying that life becomes easier if we chose to let go of the sense of entitlement. If you purchase a music CD you do not own the music on it. You have the right to listen to it. Yes you can listen to it on any device that it will play on. However, even though you bought the CD legally, you don't have the legal right to make copies of it and sell it, you don't have the legal right to broadcast it, and in some countries like the US you don't have the right to share the music files with others without first gaining permission from whomever owns the copyright to the music. Harry Ohrn MS MVP [shell\User]
Guest Bob I Posted September 17, 2007 Posted September 17, 2007 Re: xp home software If you want to use your "OEM" license you may have the manufacturer do the repair. If on the other hand you wish create a new PC by purchasing your own parts, you will need to purchase a license for the PC. Particulars can be found in the MS document below. http://download.microsoft.com/download/4/e/3/4e3eace0-4c6d-4123-9d0c-c80436181742/OSLicQA.doc mer53 wrote: > I have a broken pc (motherboard failure) which I have subsequently fixed > (replaced motherboard. now windows refuses to boot. have searched online and > if I had a xp home disk I could do a windows repair but all I have is three > restore discs from the pc manufacturer with unuseable files (as they will > only work with original hardware). > > where can I get hold of an xp image/ disc legally -as I have a valid product > id? > > Thanks
Guest mer53 Posted September 20, 2007 Posted September 20, 2007 Re: xp home software So basically what you are saying is that microsoft hapily allow pc manufacturers to hack their os's to prevent any one replacing major components (i.e. the motherboard) in their substandard products, forcing them to return for repairs. N.B. this sytem had no system fans - only cpu, and poor quality psu for air flow, which is my diagnosis for the motherboard failure in the first place . after less than 2 years! If I purchase An OS licence with a pc I would expect to have a licence for any single pc for the life of my licence which unless msoft start . I am not trying to run a no. of pc's om the same licence - Only One!!!! - ONe pc one licence simple. with vista being the greatest thing since..............whatever I would have thought todays consumer market would bring sufficint proffit for msoft - and so .. I cant be bothered with this **** any more you guys (except wally) are just muppets. "Bob I" wrote: > If you want to use your "OEM" license you may have the manufacturer do > the repair. If on the other hand you wish create a new PC by purchasing > your own parts, you will need to purchase a license for the PC. > Particulars can be found in the MS document below. > > http://download.microsoft.com/download/4/e/3/4e3eace0-4c6d-4123-9d0c-c80436181742/OSLicQA.doc > > mer53 wrote: > > > I have a broken pc (motherboard failure) which I have subsequently fixed > > (replaced motherboard. now windows refuses to boot. have searched online and > > if I had a xp home disk I could do a windows repair but all I have is three > > restore discs from the pc manufacturer with unuseable files (as they will > > only work with original hardware). > > > > where can I get hold of an xp image/ disc legally -as I have a valid product > > id? > > > > Thanks > >
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