windows xp Windows Activation issue.

June 29, 2009

Bobby,

Not quite sure, but I am 99% confident that I installed 7100 on top of 7000

in my notebook without the need of any tweaks.

Carlos

"Bobby Johnson" wrote:

> Supposedly the RC will not upgrade the Beta unless you change a value in

> cversion.ini which means you have to extract the files from DVD and then

> rebuild a bootable DVD for the installation.

>

> http://www.blogsdna.com/3083/how-to-upgrad...-build-7100.htm

> http://www.zimbio.com/Windows+7/articles/2...7000+Build+7100

>

> Or, if you extract the files and edit the cversion.ini you can put the

> files on a USB stick and load from there.

> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/dd535816.aspx

>

> Carlos wrote:

> > Tony,

> > If you don't want to lose all that time that took you to configure and

> > install things the way you like, you can always launch 7100 installation as

> > an upgrade.

> > Boot 7000, insert the 7100 DVD, and choose upgrade.

> > Carlos

> >

> > "tsperling" wrote:

> >

> >> Ah - that is a relief, many thanks!

> >>

> >> It's too hot to think here, so I'll just sit down and muster some energy for

> >> a night I didn't know I bargained for.

> >>

> >> Tony. . .

> >>

> >> "Bobby Johnson" wrote in message

> >> news:u#upahM#JHA.4692@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> >>> Your key is valid for multiple activations of both the Beta and/or RC. If

> >>> I remember correctly Microsoft said unlimited activations.

> >>>

> >>> tsperling wrote:

> >>>> Yes, that is what happened. Got the 7100 burned and labeled now.

> >>>> Fortunately, I do have it all in fresh memory, but it's a long time since

> >>>> I was so disappointed. Now, the bigger issue may be that I actually used

> >>>> the RC Key to activate the Beta - what to do about that?

> >>>>

> >>>> Tony. . .

> >>>>

> >>>> "tsperling" wrote in message

> >>>> news:6BB62F3F-BEF4-4F6D-A7DD-B052BCE78454@microsoft.com...

> >>>>> Yeah - that is the upside of it. But I was downloading so much in those

> >>>>> days I may have both and just burned the wrong one?

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Gawd!

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Tony. . .

> >>>>>

> >>>>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote in

> >>>>> message news:#DLMxsL#JHA.3768@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> >>>>>> Time to fire up the wireless again, Tony. You've got just about enough

> >>>>>> time. You might try here, though I'm sure there are other download

> >>>>>> sites: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/dd353205.aspx

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> --

> >>>>>> Charlie.

> >>>>>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64

> >>>>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> "tsperling" wrote in message

> >>>>>> news:6DAE7EAE-AE7C-499D-914A-EEBCE9A50CB9@microsoft.com...

> >>>>>>> Ha, I shouldn't wonder, but I hope not, it took me 17hours to have it

> >>>>>>> trickle down the wireless!!!

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> It is Build 7000

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Tony. . .

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> "Bobby Johnson" wrote in message

> >>>>>>> news:O2a96ZL#JHA.3544@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> >>>>>>>> It sounds like you may have the Win 7 Beta instead of the Win 7 RC.

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> tsperling wrote:

> >>>>>>>>> I activated yesterday and was greeted as having completed this. Now,

> >>>>>>>>> this morning, I was told that "This pre-release version will expire

> >>>>>>>>> in three days". I rummaged around a bit and clicked on something and

> >>>>>>>>> the activation gave me the O.K. again.

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>> Now, a few hours later, the message is back saying it will expire in

> >>>>>>>>> three days. Is this a known issue that can be ignored?

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>> Tony. . .

> >>>>>>>>>

>

June 29, 2009

I never tried to upgrade from Beta to RC but thought it might be

something to be aware of if Tony ran in to any problems.

After seeing the one on using a USB stick I have followed that and do

all my installs from USB since it is a bit faster than reading from a DVD.

Carlos wrote:

> Bobby,

> Not quite sure, but I am 99% confident that I installed 7100 on top of 7000

> in my notebook without the need of any tweaks.

> Carlos

>

> "Bobby Johnson" wrote:

>

>> Supposedly the RC will not upgrade the Beta unless you change a value in

>> cversion.ini which means you have to extract the files from DVD and then

>> rebuild a bootable DVD for the installation.

>>

>> http://www.blogsdna.com/3083/how-to-upgrad...-build-7100.htm

>> http://www.zimbio.com/Windows+7/articles/2...7000+Build+7100

>>

>> Or, if you extract the files and edit the cversion.ini you can put the

>> files on a USB stick and load from there.

>> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/dd535816.aspx

>>

>> Carlos wrote:

>>> Tony,

>>> If you don't want to lose all that time that took you to configure and

>>> install things the way you like, you can always launch 7100 installation as

>>> an upgrade.

>>> Boot 7000, insert the 7100 DVD, and choose upgrade.

>>> Carlos

>>>

>>> "tsperling" wrote:

>>>

>>>> Ah - that is a relief, many thanks!

>>>>

>>>> It's too hot to think here, so I'll just sit down and muster some energy for

>>>> a night I didn't know I bargained for.

>>>>

>>>> Tony. . .

>>>>

>>>> "Bobby Johnson" wrote in message

>>>> news:u#upahM#JHA.4692@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>> Your key is valid for multiple activations of both the Beta and/or RC. If

>>>>> I remember correctly Microsoft said unlimited activations.

>>>>>

>>>>> tsperling wrote:

>>>>>> Yes, that is what happened. Got the 7100 burned and labeled now.

>>>>>> Fortunately, I do have it all in fresh memory, but it's a long time since

>>>>>> I was so disappointed. Now, the bigger issue may be that I actually used

>>>>>> the RC Key to activate the Beta - what to do about that?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Tony. . .

>>>>>>

>>>>>> "tsperling" wrote in message

>>>>>> news:6BB62F3F-BEF4-4F6D-A7DD-B052BCE78454@microsoft.com...

>>>>>>> Yeah - that is the upside of it. But I was downloading so much in those

>>>>>>> days I may have both and just burned the wrong one?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Gawd!

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Tony. . .

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote in

>>>>>>> message news:#DLMxsL#JHA.3768@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>> Time to fire up the wireless again, Tony. You've got just about enough

>>>>>>>> time. You might try here, though I'm sure there are other download

>>>>>>>> sites: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/dd353205.aspx

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>> Charlie.

>>>>>>>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64

>>>>>>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> "tsperling" wrote in message

>>>>>>>> news:6DAE7EAE-AE7C-499D-914A-EEBCE9A50CB9@microsoft.com...

>>>>>>>>> Ha, I shouldn't wonder, but I hope not, it took me 17hours to have it

>>>>>>>>> trickle down the wireless!!!

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> It is Build 7000

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Tony. . .

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> "Bobby Johnson" wrote in message

>>>>>>>>> news:O2a96ZL#JHA.3544@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>> It sounds like you may have the Win 7 Beta instead of the Win 7 RC.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> tsperling wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>> I activated yesterday and was greeted as having completed this. Now,

>>>>>>>>>>> this morning, I was told that "This pre-release version will expire

>>>>>>>>>>> in three days". I rummaged around a bit and clicked on something and

>>>>>>>>>>> the activation gave me the O.K. again.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Now, a few hours later, the message is back saying it will expire in

>>>>>>>>>>> three days. Is this a known issue that can be ignored?

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Tony. . .

>>>>>>>>>>>

June 29, 2009

Bobby,

Also, if you have a running OS, copying the disc files to an available

partition on you hard disk(s) and running the install from there is much

faster.

That's what I did in my notebook.

Carlos

"Bobby Johnson" wrote:

> I never tried to upgrade from Beta to RC but thought it might be

> something to be aware of if Tony ran in to any problems.

>

> After seeing the one on using a USB stick I have followed that and do

> all my installs from USB since it is a bit faster than reading from a DVD.

>

> Carlos wrote:

> > Bobby,

> > Not quite sure, but I am 99% confident that I installed 7100 on top of 7000

> > in my notebook without the need of any tweaks.

> > Carlos

> >

> > "Bobby Johnson" wrote:

> >

> >> Supposedly the RC will not upgrade the Beta unless you change a value in

> >> cversion.ini which means you have to extract the files from DVD and then

> >> rebuild a bootable DVD for the installation.

> >>

> >> http://www.blogsdna.com/3083/how-to-upgrad...-build-7100.htm

> >> http://www.zimbio.com/Windows+7/articles/2...7000+Build+7100

> >>

> >> Or, if you extract the files and edit the cversion.ini you can put the

> >> files on a USB stick and load from there.

> >> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/dd535816.aspx

> >>

> >> Carlos wrote:

> >>> Tony,

> >>> If you don't want to lose all that time that took you to configure and

> >>> install things the way you like, you can always launch 7100 installation as

> >>> an upgrade.

> >>> Boot 7000, insert the 7100 DVD, and choose upgrade.

> >>> Carlos

> >>>

> >>> "tsperling" wrote:

> >>>

> >>>> Ah - that is a relief, many thanks!

> >>>>

> >>>> It's too hot to think here, so I'll just sit down and muster some energy for

> >>>> a night I didn't know I bargained for.

> >>>>

> >>>> Tony. . .

> >>>>

> >>>> "Bobby Johnson" wrote in message

> >>>> news:u#upahM#JHA.4692@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> >>>>> Your key is valid for multiple activations of both the Beta and/or RC. If

> >>>>> I remember correctly Microsoft said unlimited activations.

> >>>>>

> >>>>> tsperling wrote:

> >>>>>> Yes, that is what happened. Got the 7100 burned and labeled now.

> >>>>>> Fortunately, I do have it all in fresh memory, but it's a long time since

> >>>>>> I was so disappointed. Now, the bigger issue may be that I actually used

> >>>>>> the RC Key to activate the Beta - what to do about that?

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> Tony. . .

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> "tsperling" wrote in message

> >>>>>> news:6BB62F3F-BEF4-4F6D-A7DD-B052BCE78454@microsoft.com...

> >>>>>>> Yeah - that is the upside of it. But I was downloading so much in those

> >>>>>>> days I may have both and just burned the wrong one?

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Gawd!

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Tony. . .

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote in

> >>>>>>> message news:#DLMxsL#JHA.3768@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> >>>>>>>> Time to fire up the wireless again, Tony. You've got just about enough

> >>>>>>>> time. You might try here, though I'm sure there are other download

> >>>>>>>> sites: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/dd353205.aspx

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> --

> >>>>>>>> Charlie.

> >>>>>>>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64

> >>>>>>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> "tsperling" wrote in message

> >>>>>>>> news:6DAE7EAE-AE7C-499D-914A-EEBCE9A50CB9@microsoft.com...

> >>>>>>>>> Ha, I shouldn't wonder, but I hope not, it took me 17hours to have it

> >>>>>>>>> trickle down the wireless!!!

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>> It is Build 7000

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>> Tony. . .

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>> "Bobby Johnson" wrote in message

> >>>>>>>>> news:O2a96ZL#JHA.3544@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> >>>>>>>>>> It sounds like you may have the Win 7 Beta instead of the Win 7 RC.

> >>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>> tsperling wrote:

> >>>>>>>>>>> I activated yesterday and was greeted as having completed this. Now,

> >>>>>>>>>>> this morning, I was told that "This pre-release version will expire

> >>>>>>>>>>> in three days". I rummaged around a bit and clicked on something and

> >>>>>>>>>>> the activation gave me the O.K. again.

> >>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>> Now, a few hours later, the message is back saying it will expire in

> >>>>>>>>>>> three days. Is this a known issue that can be ignored?

> >>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>> Tony. . .

> >>>>>>>>>>>

>

June 29, 2009

But if I do the USB thing I only have to copy the files once to the USB

stick and then use it multiple times for installations. It was for my

netbook initially but decided to use it for all my installtions.

Carlos wrote:

> Bobby,

> Also, if you have a running OS, copying the disc files to an available

> partition on you hard disk(s) and running the install from there is much

> faster.

> That's what I did in my notebook.

> Carlos

>

> "Bobby Johnson" wrote:

>

>> I never tried to upgrade from Beta to RC but thought it might be

>> something to be aware of if Tony ran in to any problems.

>>

>> After seeing the one on using a USB stick I have followed that and do

>> all my installs from USB since it is a bit faster than reading from a DVD.

>>

>> Carlos wrote:

>>> Bobby,

>>> Not quite sure, but I am 99% confident that I installed 7100 on top of 7000

>>> in my notebook without the need of any tweaks.

>>> Carlos

>>>

>>> "Bobby Johnson" wrote:

>>>

>>>> Supposedly the RC will not upgrade the Beta unless you change a value in

>>>> cversion.ini which means you have to extract the files from DVD and then

>>>> rebuild a bootable DVD for the installation.

>>>>

>>>> http://www.blogsdna.com/3083/how-to-upgrad...-build-7100.htm

>>>> http://www.zimbio.com/Windows+7/articles/2...7000+Build+7100

>>>>

>>>> Or, if you extract the files and edit the cversion.ini you can put the

>>>> files on a USB stick and load from there.

>>>> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/dd535816.aspx

>>>>

>>>> Carlos wrote:

>>>>> Tony,

>>>>> If you don't want to lose all that time that took you to configure and

>>>>> install things the way you like, you can always launch 7100 installation as

>>>>> an upgrade.

>>>>> Boot 7000, insert the 7100 DVD, and choose upgrade.

>>>>> Carlos

>>>>>

>>>>> "tsperling" wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> Ah - that is a relief, many thanks!

>>>>>>

>>>>>> It's too hot to think here, so I'll just sit down and muster some energy for

>>>>>> a night I didn't know I bargained for.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Tony. . .

>>>>>>

>>>>>> "Bobby Johnson" wrote in message

>>>>>> news:u#upahM#JHA.4692@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>> Your key is valid for multiple activations of both the Beta and/or RC. If

>>>>>>> I remember correctly Microsoft said unlimited activations.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> tsperling wrote:

>>>>>>>> Yes, that is what happened. Got the 7100 burned and labeled now.

>>>>>>>> Fortunately, I do have it all in fresh memory, but it's a long time since

>>>>>>>> I was so disappointed. Now, the bigger issue may be that I actually used

>>>>>>>> the RC Key to activate the Beta - what to do about that?

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Tony. . .

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> "tsperling" wrote in message

>>>>>>>> news:6BB62F3F-BEF4-4F6D-A7DD-B052BCE78454@microsoft.com...

>>>>>>>>> Yeah - that is the upside of it. But I was downloading so much in those

>>>>>>>>> days I may have both and just burned the wrong one?

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Gawd!

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Tony. . .

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote in

>>>>>>>>> message news:#DLMxsL#JHA.3768@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>> Time to fire up the wireless again, Tony. You've got just about enough

>>>>>>>>>> time. You might try here, though I'm sure there are other download

>>>>>>>>>> sites: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/dd353205.aspx

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>>>> Charlie.

>>>>>>>>>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64

>>>>>>>>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> "tsperling" wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>> news:6DAE7EAE-AE7C-499D-914A-EEBCE9A50CB9@microsoft.com...

>>>>>>>>>>> Ha, I shouldn't wonder, but I hope not, it took me 17hours to have it

>>>>>>>>>>> trickle down the wireless!!!

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> It is Build 7000

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Tony. . .

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> "Bobby Johnson" wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>> news:O2a96ZL#JHA.3544@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>> It sounds like you may have the Win 7 Beta instead of the Win 7 RC.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> tsperling wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>> I activated yesterday and was greeted as having completed this. Now,

>>>>>>>>>>>>> this morning, I was told that "This pre-release version will expire

>>>>>>>>>>>>> in three days". I rummaged around a bit and clicked on something and

>>>>>>>>>>>>> the activation gave me the O.K. again.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, a few hours later, the message is back saying it will expire in

>>>>>>>>>>>>> three days. Is this a known issue that can be ignored?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tony. . .

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

June 29, 2009

Actually, this is what I will attempt to do - listening to everybody and

seeing there is only about 36 - 40 hours left now, I'd like to have some

elbowroom if I 'botch' this. I have other things on my mind as well, like

keeping the place tidy and finding a job, while also puffing and panting in

the heat. I believe you Charlie, but I feel unprepared and think I'd better

push the WET bit off for the RTM install job.

Thanks to all! - (Into the b-b-breach boys!!!)

Tony. . .

"Carlos" wrote in message

news:C1E04E8A-1A72-45BA-BF3C-BB627234B7E2@microsoft.com...

> Bobby,

> Also, if you have a running OS, copying the disc files to an available

> partition on you hard disk(s) and running the install from there is much

> faster.

> That's what I did in my notebook.

> Carlos

>

> "Bobby Johnson" wrote:

>

>> I never tried to upgrade from Beta to RC but thought it might be

>> something to be aware of if Tony ran in to any problems.

>>

>> After seeing the one on using a USB stick I have followed that and do

>> all my installs from USB since it is a bit faster than reading from a

>> DVD.

>>

>> Carlos wrote:

>> > Bobby,

>> > Not quite sure, but I am 99% confident that I installed 7100 on top of

>> > 7000

>> > in my notebook without the need of any tweaks.

>> > Carlos

>> >

>> > "Bobby Johnson" wrote:

>> >

>> >> Supposedly the RC will not upgrade the Beta unless you change a value

>> >> in

>> >> cversion.ini which means you have to extract the files from DVD and

>> >> then

>> >> rebuild a bootable DVD for the installation.

>> >>

>> >> http://www.blogsdna.com/3083/how-to-upgrad...-build-7100.htm

>> >> http://www.zimbio.com/Windows+7/articles/2...7000+Build+7100

>> >>

>> >> Or, if you extract the files and edit the cversion.ini you can put the

>> >> files on a USB stick and load from there.

>> >> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/dd535816.aspx

>> >>

>> >> Carlos wrote:

>> >>> Tony,

>> >>> If you don't want to lose all that time that took you to configure

>> >>> and

>> >>> install things the way you like, you can always launch 7100

>> >>> installation as

>> >>> an upgrade.

>> >>> Boot 7000, insert the 7100 DVD, and choose upgrade.

>> >>> Carlos

>> >>>

>> >>> "tsperling" wrote:

>> >>>

>> >>>> Ah - that is a relief, many thanks!

>> >>>>

>> >>>> It's too hot to think here, so I'll just sit down and muster some

>> >>>> energy for

>> >>>> a night I didn't know I bargained for.

>> >>>>

>> >>>> Tony. . .

>> >>>>

>> >>>> "Bobby Johnson" wrote in

>> >>>> message

>> >>>> news:u#upahM#JHA.4692@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> >>>>> Your key is valid for multiple activations of both the Beta and/or

>> >>>>> RC. If

>> >>>>> I remember correctly Microsoft said unlimited activations.

>> >>>>>

>> >>>>> tsperling wrote:

>> >>>>>> Yes, that is what happened. Got the 7100 burned and labeled now.

>> >>>>>> Fortunately, I do have it all in fresh memory, but it's a long

>> >>>>>> time since

>> >>>>>> I was so disappointed. Now, the bigger issue may be that I

>> >>>>>> actually used

>> >>>>>> the RC Key to activate the Beta - what to do about that?

>> >>>>>>

>> >>>>>> Tony. . .

>> >>>>>>

>> >>>>>> "tsperling" wrote in message

>> >>>>>> news:6BB62F3F-BEF4-4F6D-A7DD-B052BCE78454@microsoft.com...

>> >>>>>>> Yeah - that is the upside of it. But I was downloading so much in

>> >>>>>>> those

>> >>>>>>> days I may have both and just burned the wrong one?

>> >>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>> Gawd!

>> >>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>> Tony. . .

>> >>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote in

>> >>>>>>> message news:#DLMxsL#JHA.3768@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> >>>>>>>> Time to fire up the wireless again, Tony. You've got just about

>> >>>>>>>> enough

>> >>>>>>>> time. You might try here, though I'm sure there are other

>> >>>>>>>> download

>> >>>>>>>> sites:

>> >>>>>>>> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/dd353205.aspx

>> >>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>> --

>> >>>>>>>> Charlie.

>> >>>>>>>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64

>> >>>>>>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>> >>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>> "tsperling" wrote in message

>> >>>>>>>> news:6DAE7EAE-AE7C-499D-914A-EEBCE9A50CB9@microsoft.com...

>> >>>>>>>>> Ha, I shouldn't wonder, but I hope not, it took me 17hours to

>> >>>>>>>>> have it

>> >>>>>>>>> trickle down the wireless!!!

>> >>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>>> It is Build 7000

>> >>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>>> Tony. . .

>> >>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>>> "Bobby Johnson" wrote in

>> >>>>>>>>> message

>> >>>>>>>>> news:O2a96ZL#JHA.3544@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> >>>>>>>>>> It sounds like you may have the Win 7 Beta instead of the Win

>> >>>>>>>>>> 7 RC.

>> >>>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>>>> tsperling wrote:

>> >>>>>>>>>>> I activated yesterday and was greeted as having completed

>> >>>>>>>>>>> this. Now,

>> >>>>>>>>>>> this morning, I was told that "This pre-release version will

>> >>>>>>>>>>> expire

>> >>>>>>>>>>> in three days". I rummaged around a bit and clicked on

>> >>>>>>>>>>> something and

>> >>>>>>>>>>> the activation gave me the O.K. again.

>> >>>>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>>>>> Now, a few hours later, the message is back saying it will

>> >>>>>>>>>>> expire in

>> >>>>>>>>>>> three days. Is this a known issue that can be ignored?

>> >>>>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>>>>> Tony. . .

>> >>>>>>>>>>>

>>

June 30, 2009

Perfectly reasonable, Tony. But do plan on the WET and a clean install for

RTM, since you'll want to keep that one as clean as you can.

--

Charlie.

http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64

http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

"tsperling" wrote in message

news:C5F83B7D-989D-493C-920C-01F931CB9FA7@microsoft.com...

> Actually, this is what I will attempt to do - listening to everybody and

> seeing there is only about 36 - 40 hours left now, I'd like to have some

> elbowroom if I 'botch' this. I have other things on my mind as well, like

> keeping the place tidy and finding a job, while also puffing and panting

> in the heat. I believe you Charlie, but I feel unprepared and think I'd

> better push the WET bit off for the RTM install job.

>

> Thanks to all! - (Into the b-b-breach boys!!!)

>

> Tony. . .

>

> "Carlos" wrote in message

> news:C1E04E8A-1A72-45BA-BF3C-BB627234B7E2@microsoft.com...

>> Bobby,

>> Also, if you have a running OS, copying the disc files to an available

>> partition on you hard disk(s) and running the install from there is much

>> faster.

>> That's what I did in my notebook.

>> Carlos

>>

>> "Bobby Johnson" wrote:

>>

>>> I never tried to upgrade from Beta to RC but thought it might be

>>> something to be aware of if Tony ran in to any problems.

>>>

>>> After seeing the one on using a USB stick I have followed that and do

>>> all my installs from USB since it is a bit faster than reading from a

>>> DVD.

>>>

>>> Carlos wrote:

>>> > Bobby,

>>> > Not quite sure, but I am 99% confident that I installed 7100 on top of

>>> > 7000

>>> > in my notebook without the need of any tweaks.

>>> > Carlos

>>> >

>>> > "Bobby Johnson" wrote:

>>> >

>>> >> Supposedly the RC will not upgrade the Beta unless you change a value

>>> >> in

>>> >> cversion.ini which means you have to extract the files from DVD and

>>> >> then

>>> >> rebuild a bootable DVD for the installation.

>>> >>

>>> >> http://www.blogsdna.com/3083/how-to-upgrad...-build-7100.htm

>>> >> http://www.zimbio.com/Windows+7/articles/2...7000+Build+7100

>>> >>

>>> >> Or, if you extract the files and edit the cversion.ini you can put

>>> >> the

>>> >> files on a USB stick and load from there.

>>> >> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/dd535816.aspx

>>> >>

>>> >> Carlos wrote:

>>> >>> Tony,

>>> >>> If you don't want to lose all that time that took you to configure

>>> >>> and

>>> >>> install things the way you like, you can always launch 7100

>>> >>> installation as

>>> >>> an upgrade.

>>> >>> Boot 7000, insert the 7100 DVD, and choose upgrade.

>>> >>> Carlos

>>> >>>

>>> >>> "tsperling" wrote:

>>> >>>

>>> >>>> Ah - that is a relief, many thanks!

>>> >>>>

>>> >>>> It's too hot to think here, so I'll just sit down and muster some

>>> >>>> energy for

>>> >>>> a night I didn't know I bargained for.

>>> >>>>

>>> >>>> Tony. . .

>>> >>>>

>>> >>>> "Bobby Johnson" wrote in

>>> >>>> message

>>> >>>> news:u#upahM#JHA.4692@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>> >>>>> Your key is valid for multiple activations of both the Beta and/or

>>> >>>>> RC. If

>>> >>>>> I remember correctly Microsoft said unlimited activations.

>>> >>>>>

>>> >>>>> tsperling wrote:

>>> >>>>>> Yes, that is what happened. Got the 7100 burned and labeled now.

>>> >>>>>> Fortunately, I do have it all in fresh memory, but it's a long

>>> >>>>>> time since

>>> >>>>>> I was so disappointed. Now, the bigger issue may be that I

>>> >>>>>> actually used

>>> >>>>>> the RC Key to activate the Beta - what to do about that?

>>> >>>>>>

>>> >>>>>> Tony. . .

>>> >>>>>>

>>> >>>>>> "tsperling" wrote in message

>>> >>>>>> news:6BB62F3F-BEF4-4F6D-A7DD-B052BCE78454@microsoft.com...

>>> >>>>>>> Yeah - that is the upside of it. But I was downloading so much

>>> >>>>>>> in those

>>> >>>>>>> days I may have both and just burned the wrong one?

>>> >>>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>> Gawd!

>>> >>>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>> Tony. . .

>>> >>>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote

>>> >>>>>>> in

>>> >>>>>>> message news:#DLMxsL#JHA.3768@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>> >>>>>>>> Time to fire up the wireless again, Tony. You've got just about

>>> >>>>>>>> enough

>>> >>>>>>>> time. You might try here, though I'm sure there are other

>>> >>>>>>>> download

>>> >>>>>>>> sites:

>>> >>>>>>>> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/dd353205.aspx

>>> >>>>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>>> --

>>> >>>>>>>> Charlie.

>>> >>>>>>>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64

>>> >>>>>>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>>> >>>>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>>> "tsperling" wrote in message

>>> >>>>>>>> news:6DAE7EAE-AE7C-499D-914A-EEBCE9A50CB9@microsoft.com...

>>> >>>>>>>>> Ha, I shouldn't wonder, but I hope not, it took me 17hours to

>>> >>>>>>>>> have it

>>> >>>>>>>>> trickle down the wireless!!!

>>> >>>>>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>>>> It is Build 7000

>>> >>>>>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>>>> Tony. . .

>>> >>>>>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>>>> "Bobby Johnson" wrote in

>>> >>>>>>>>> message

>>> >>>>>>>>> news:O2a96ZL#JHA.3544@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>> >>>>>>>>>> It sounds like you may have the Win 7 Beta instead of the Win

>>> >>>>>>>>>> 7 RC.

>>> >>>>>>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>>>>> tsperling wrote:

>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I activated yesterday and was greeted as having completed

>>> >>>>>>>>>>> this. Now,

>>> >>>>>>>>>>> this morning, I was told that "This pre-release version will

>>> >>>>>>>>>>> expire

>>> >>>>>>>>>>> in three days". I rummaged around a bit and clicked on

>>> >>>>>>>>>>> something and

>>> >>>>>>>>>>> the activation gave me the O.K. again.

>>> >>>>>>>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Now, a few hours later, the message is back saying it will

>>> >>>>>>>>>>> expire in

>>> >>>>>>>>>>> three days. Is this a known issue that can be ignored?

>>> >>>>>>>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Tony. . .

>>> >>>>>>>>>>>

>>>

June 30, 2009

Oh, absolutely, Charlie. No doubt after the discussion we had and I have

seen it now with my own two eyes. This was fine for what it's worth, but the

final install must be from scratch.

Tony. . .

"Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote in message

news:OKMBIpR#JHA.4692@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> Perfectly reasonable, Tony. But do plan on the WET and a clean install for

> RTM, since you'll want to keep that one as clean as you can.

>

> --

> Charlie.

> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64

> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>

> "tsperling" wrote in message

> news:C5F83B7D-989D-493C-920C-01F931CB9FA7@microsoft.com...

>> Actually, this is what I will attempt to do - listening to everybody and

>> seeing there is only about 36 - 40 hours left now, I'd like to have some

>> elbowroom if I 'botch' this. I have other things on my mind as well, like

>> keeping the place tidy and finding a job, while also puffing and panting

>> in the heat. I believe you Charlie, but I feel unprepared and think I'd

>> better push the WET bit off for the RTM install job.

>>

>> Thanks to all! - (Into the b-b-breach boys!!!)

>>

>> Tony. . .

>>

>> "Carlos" wrote in message

>> news:C1E04E8A-1A72-45BA-BF3C-BB627234B7E2@microsoft.com...

>>> Bobby,

>>> Also, if you have a running OS, copying the disc files to an available

>>> partition on you hard disk(s) and running the install from there is much

>>> faster.

>>> That's what I did in my notebook.

>>> Carlos

>>>

>>> "Bobby Johnson" wrote:

>>>

>>>> I never tried to upgrade from Beta to RC but thought it might be

>>>> something to be aware of if Tony ran in to any problems.

>>>>

>>>> After seeing the one on using a USB stick I have followed that and do

>>>> all my installs from USB since it is a bit faster than reading from a

>>>> DVD.

>>>>

>>>> Carlos wrote:

>>>> > Bobby,

>>>> > Not quite sure, but I am 99% confident that I installed 7100 on top

>>>> > of 7000

>>>> > in my notebook without the need of any tweaks.

>>>> > Carlos

>>>> >

>>>> > "Bobby Johnson" wrote:

>>>> >

>>>> >> Supposedly the RC will not upgrade the Beta unless you change a

>>>> >> value in

>>>> >> cversion.ini which means you have to extract the files from DVD and

>>>> >> then

>>>> >> rebuild a bootable DVD for the installation.

>>>> >>

>>>> >> http://www.blogsdna.com/3083/how-to-upgrad...-build-7100.htm

>>>> >> http://www.zimbio.com/Windows+7/articles/2...7000+Build+7100

>>>> >>

>>>> >> Or, if you extract the files and edit the cversion.ini you can put

>>>> >> the

>>>> >> files on a USB stick and load from there.

>>>> >> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/dd535816.aspx

>>>> >>

>>>> >> Carlos wrote:

>>>> >>> Tony,

>>>> >>> If you don't want to lose all that time that took you to configure

>>>> >>> and

>>>> >>> install things the way you like, you can always launch 7100

>>>> >>> installation as

>>>> >>> an upgrade.

>>>> >>> Boot 7000, insert the 7100 DVD, and choose upgrade.

>>>> >>> Carlos

>>>> >>>

>>>> >>> "tsperling" wrote:

>>>> >>>

>>>> >>>> Ah - that is a relief, many thanks!

>>>> >>>>

>>>> >>>> It's too hot to think here, so I'll just sit down and muster some

>>>> >>>> energy for

>>>> >>>> a night I didn't know I bargained for.

>>>> >>>>

>>>> >>>> Tony. . .

>>>> >>>>

>>>> >>>> "Bobby Johnson" wrote in

>>>> >>>> message

>>>> >>>> news:u#upahM#JHA.4692@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>> >>>>> Your key is valid for multiple activations of both the Beta

>>>> >>>>> and/or RC. If

>>>> >>>>> I remember correctly Microsoft said unlimited activations.

>>>> >>>>>

>>>> >>>>> tsperling wrote:

>>>> >>>>>> Yes, that is what happened. Got the 7100 burned and labeled now.

>>>> >>>>>> Fortunately, I do have it all in fresh memory, but it's a long

>>>> >>>>>> time since

>>>> >>>>>> I was so disappointed. Now, the bigger issue may be that I

>>>> >>>>>> actually used

>>>> >>>>>> the RC Key to activate the Beta - what to do about that?

>>>> >>>>>>

>>>> >>>>>> Tony. . .

>>>> >>>>>>

>>>> >>>>>> "tsperling" wrote in message

>>>> >>>>>> news:6BB62F3F-BEF4-4F6D-A7DD-B052BCE78454@microsoft.com...

>>>> >>>>>>> Yeah - that is the upside of it. But I was downloading so much

>>>> >>>>>>> in those

>>>> >>>>>>> days I may have both and just burned the wrong one?

>>>> >>>>>>>

>>>> >>>>>>> Gawd!

>>>> >>>>>>>

>>>> >>>>>>> Tony. . .

>>>> >>>>>>>

>>>> >>>>>>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote

>>>> >>>>>>> in

>>>> >>>>>>> message news:#DLMxsL#JHA.3768@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>> >>>>>>>> Time to fire up the wireless again, Tony. You've got just

>>>> >>>>>>>> about enough

>>>> >>>>>>>> time. You might try here, though I'm sure there are other

>>>> >>>>>>>> download

>>>> >>>>>>>> sites:

>>>> >>>>>>>> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/dd353205.aspx

>>>> >>>>>>>>

>>>> >>>>>>>> --

>>>> >>>>>>>> Charlie.

>>>> >>>>>>>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64

>>>> >>>>>>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>>>> >>>>>>>>

>>>> >>>>>>>> "tsperling" wrote in message

>>>> >>>>>>>> news:6DAE7EAE-AE7C-499D-914A-EEBCE9A50CB9@microsoft.com...

>>>> >>>>>>>>> Ha, I shouldn't wonder, but I hope not, it took me 17hours to

>>>> >>>>>>>>> have it

>>>> >>>>>>>>> trickle down the wireless!!!

>>>> >>>>>>>>>

>>>> >>>>>>>>> It is Build 7000

>>>> >>>>>>>>>

>>>> >>>>>>>>> Tony. . .

>>>> >>>>>>>>>

>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Bobby Johnson" wrote in

>>>> >>>>>>>>> message

>>>> >>>>>>>>> news:O2a96ZL#JHA.3544@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It sounds like you may have the Win 7 Beta instead of the

>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Win 7 RC.

>>>> >>>>>>>>>>

>>>> >>>>>>>>>> tsperling wrote:

>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I activated yesterday and was greeted as having completed

>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> this. Now,

>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> this morning, I was told that "This pre-release version

>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> will expire

>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> in three days". I rummaged around a bit and clicked on

>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> something and

>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> the activation gave me the O.K. again.

>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>

>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Now, a few hours later, the message is back saying it will

>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> expire in

>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> three days. Is this a known issue that can be ignored?

>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>

>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Tony. . .

>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>

>

June 30, 2009

OT: Heat? Re: Windows Activation issue.

Hi, Tony.

You keep mentioning the heat. Where (in the world) did you move to? From

Denmark, right?

How hot is hot? Here in Central Texas we've broken heat records just about

every day for the past week. Austin was 106F today, breaking the old record

for the date of 102F. (That's about 41C and 39C, I think.) We've been 100F

or higher for about 15 of the last 16 days (fell to 98F one day to cool us

off). And it's not yet July! Hottest day ever here was 112F - in September

2000! Is that hot?

RC

--

R. C. White, CPA

San Marcos, TX

rc@grandecom.net

Microsoft Windows MVP

Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8064.0206) in Win7 Ultimate x64 RC 7100

"tsperling" wrote in message

news:C5F83B7D-989D-493C-920C-01F931CB9FA7@microsoft.com...

> Actually, this is what I will attempt to do - listening to everybody and

> seeing there is only about 36 - 40 hours left now, I'd like to have some

> elbowroom if I 'botch' this. I have other things on my mind as well, like

> keeping the place tidy and finding a job, while also puffing and panting

> in the heat. I believe you Charlie, but I feel unprepared and think I'd

> better push the WET bit off for the RTM install job.

>

> Thanks to all! - (Into the b-b-breach boys!!!)

>

> Tony. . .

>

> "Carlos" wrote in message

> news:C1E04E8A-1A72-45BA-BF3C-BB627234B7E2@microsoft.com...

>> Bobby,

>> Also, if you have a running OS, copying the disc files to an available

>> partition on you hard disk(s) and running the install from there is much

>> faster.

>> That's what I did in my notebook.

>> Carlos

>>

>> "Bobby Johnson" wrote:

>>

>>> I never tried to upgrade from Beta to RC but thought it might be

>>> something to be aware of if Tony ran in to any problems.

>>>

>>> After seeing the one on using a USB stick I have followed that and do

>>> all my installs from USB since it is a bit faster than reading from a

>>> DVD.

>>>

>>> Carlos wrote:

>>> > Bobby,

>>> > Not quite sure, but I am 99% confident that I installed 7100 on top of

>>> > 7000

>>> > in my notebook without the need of any tweaks.

>>> > Carlos

>>> >

>>> > "Bobby Johnson" wrote:

>>> >

>>> >> Supposedly the RC will not upgrade the Beta unless you change a value

>>> >> in

>>> >> cversion.ini which means you have to extract the files from DVD and

>>> >> then

>>> >> rebuild a bootable DVD for the installation.

>>> >>

>>> >> http://www.blogsdna.com/3083/how-to-upgrad...-build-7100.htm

>>> >> http://www.zimbio.com/Windows+7/articles/2...7000+Build+7100

>>> >>

>>> >> Or, if you extract the files and edit the cversion.ini you can put

>>> >> the

>>> >> files on a USB stick and load from there.

>>> >> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/dd535816.aspx

>>> >>

>>> >> Carlos wrote:

>>> >>> Tony,

>>> >>> If you don't want to lose all that time that took you to configure

>>> >>> and

>>> >>> install things the way you like, you can always launch 7100

>>> >>> installation as

>>> >>> an upgrade.

>>> >>> Boot 7000, insert the 7100 DVD, and choose upgrade.

>>> >>> Carlos

>>> >>>

>>> >>> "tsperling" wrote:

>>> >>>

>>> >>>> Ah - that is a relief, many thanks!

>>> >>>>

>>> >>>> It's too hot to think here, so I'll just sit down and muster some

>>> >>>> energy for

>>> >>>> a night I didn't know I bargained for.

>>> >>>>

>>> >>>> Tony. . .

>>> >>>>

>>> >>>> "Bobby Johnson" wrote in

>>> >>>> message

>>> >>>> news:u#upahM#JHA.4692@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>> >>>>> Your key is valid for multiple activations of both the Beta and/or

>>> >>>>> RC. If

>>> >>>>> I remember correctly Microsoft said unlimited activations.

>>> >>>>>

>>> >>>>> tsperling wrote:

>>> >>>>>> Yes, that is what happened. Got the 7100 burned and labeled now.

>>> >>>>>> Fortunately, I do have it all in fresh memory, but it's a long

>>> >>>>>> time since

>>> >>>>>> I was so disappointed. Now, the bigger issue may be that I

>>> >>>>>> actually used

>>> >>>>>> the RC Key to activate the Beta - what to do about that?

>>> >>>>>>

>>> >>>>>> Tony. . .

>>> >>>>>>

>>> >>>>>> "tsperling" wrote in message

>>> >>>>>> news:6BB62F3F-BEF4-4F6D-A7DD-B052BCE78454@microsoft.com...

>>> >>>>>>> Yeah - that is the upside of it. But I was downloading so much

>>> >>>>>>> in those

>>> >>>>>>> days I may have both and just burned the wrong one?

>>> >>>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>> Gawd!

>>> >>>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>> Tony. . .

>>> >>>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote

>>> >>>>>>> in

>>> >>>>>>> message news:#DLMxsL#JHA.3768@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>> >>>>>>>> Time to fire up the wireless again, Tony. You've got just about

>>> >>>>>>>> enough

>>> >>>>>>>> time. You might try here, though I'm sure there are other

>>> >>>>>>>> download

>>> >>>>>>>> sites:

>>> >>>>>>>> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/dd353205.aspx

>>> >>>>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>>> --

>>> >>>>>>>> Charlie.

>>> >>>>>>>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64

>>> >>>>>>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>>> >>>>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>>> "tsperling" wrote in message

>>> >>>>>>>> news:6DAE7EAE-AE7C-499D-914A-EEBCE9A50CB9@microsoft.com...

>>> >>>>>>>>> Ha, I shouldn't wonder, but I hope not, it took me 17hours to

>>> >>>>>>>>> have it

>>> >>>>>>>>> trickle down the wireless!!!

>>> >>>>>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>>>> It is Build 7000

>>> >>>>>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>>>> Tony. . .

>>> >>>>>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>>>> "Bobby Johnson" wrote in

>>> >>>>>>>>> message

>>> >>>>>>>>> news:O2a96ZL#JHA.3544@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>> >>>>>>>>>> It sounds like you may have the Win 7 Beta instead of the Win

>>> >>>>>>>>>> 7 RC.

>>> >>>>>>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>>>>> tsperling wrote:

>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I activated yesterday and was greeted as having completed

>>> >>>>>>>>>>> this. Now,

>>> >>>>>>>>>>> this morning, I was told that "This pre-release version will

>>> >>>>>>>>>>> expire

>>> >>>>>>>>>>> in three days". I rummaged around a bit and clicked on

>>> >>>>>>>>>>> something and

>>> >>>>>>>>>>> the activation gave me the O.K. again.

>>> >>>>>>>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Now, a few hours later, the message is back saying it will

>>> >>>>>>>>>>> expire in

>>> >>>>>>>>>>> three days. Is this a known issue that can be ignored?

>>> >>>>>>>>>>>

>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Tony. . .

>>> >>>>>>>>>>>

>>>

June 30, 2009

Re: OT: Heat? Re: Windows Activation issue.

Yes, not quite that hot here, I confess. I shouldn't complain - it's just

that I can't stop thinking about that particularly hot place that is

mentioned in several of our important religions. I'm the sort of person who

likes snow and ice. In sunlight anything over 10C is too hot, in the evening

18C is really nice but at 24C the fun bit stops no matter the time or

conditions. For the last week or so we've had from 27 - 30C and this being

on the coast which means 'humidity', that makes it hot. Right now, at 11AM

we're having some 23C (and rising) and that feels somewhat agreeable now

with a faint wind and a veil of cloud to it.

I should be living on a mountain where the air is dry, that sort of takes

away the impact of changing conditions.

I once had a BMW twin (MC) that I drove to Yugoslavia in the summer of -82

and we had 4 days with 44C and that very nearly killed me off, so at 30C I

start panicking.

The thing with the arctic climate is you don't need a meteorologist or a

thermometer - you look out the window and it's obvious how you need to

dress. With heat there is a limit to how much you can take off, and that

limit happens much too soon, you hit it and, even if you go nekkid, the rest

is pain, struggle, no energy to think or eat and complete despair (although

I usually put up a good fight with that)

The hardest bit is that after some ten days the body adjusts and you stop

thinking so much about it, but then it gets colder again which also isn't so

nice then.

If you zoom in on Sweden and type [Lane Ryr, Uddevalla] in your google earth

you should get a close-up of the general area, the big lake is VÃƒÂ¤nern (the

fourteenth biggest lake in the world I am told. Big enough that a Geologist

recognizes it as an Inland (or Continental?) Ocean, and at this time we have

complete darkness only for a maximum of 1 hour around midnight and that

really is a bonus.

(If you have the Flightsimulator, there is a local airport (ESGT) 30 - 40

minutes away from here.)

Tony. . .

"R. C. White" wrote in message

news:e1iWL2S#JHA.4984@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> Hi, Tony.

>

> You keep mentioning the heat. Where (in the world) did you move to? From

> Denmark, right?

>

> How hot is hot? Here in Central Texas we've broken heat records just

> about every day for the past week. Austin was 106F today, breaking the

> old record for the date of 102F. (That's about 41C and 39C, I think.)

> We've been 100F or higher for about 15 of the last 16 days (fell to 98F

> one day to cool us off). And it's not yet July! Hottest day ever here

> was 112F - in September 2000! Is that hot?

>

> RC

> --

> R. C. White, CPA

> San Marcos, TX

> rc@grandecom.net

> Microsoft Windows MVP

> Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8064.0206) in Win7 Ultimate x64 RC 7100

>

> "tsperling" wrote in message

> news:C5F83B7D-989D-493C-920C-01F931CB9FA7@microsoft.com...

>> Actually, this is what I will attempt to do - listening to everybody and

>> seeing there is only about 36 - 40 hours left now, I'd like to have some

>> elbowroom if I 'botch' this. I have other things on my mind as well, like

>> keeping the place tidy and finding a job, while also puffing and panting

>> in the heat. I believe you Charlie, but I feel unprepared and think I'd

>> better push the WET bit off for the RTM install job.

>>

>> Thanks to all! - (Into the b-b-breach boys!!!)

>>

>> Tony. . .

>>

>> "Carlos" wrote in message

>> news:C1E04E8A-1A72-45BA-BF3C-BB627234B7E2@microsoft.com...

>>> Bobby,

>>> Also, if you have a running OS, copying the disc files to an available

>>> partition on you hard disk(s) and running the install from there is much

>>> faster.

>>> That's what I did in my notebook.

>>> Carlos

>>>

>>> "Bobby Johnson" wrote:

>>>

>>>> I never tried to upgrade from Beta to RC but thought it might be

>>>> something to be aware of if Tony ran in to any problems.

>>>>

>>>> After seeing the one on using a USB stick I have followed that and do

>>>> all my installs from USB since it is a bit faster than reading from a

>>>> DVD.

>>>>

>>>> Carlos wrote:

>>>> > Bobby,

>>>> > Not quite sure, but I am 99% confident that I installed 7100 on top

>>>> > of 7000

>>>> > in my notebook without the need of any tweaks.

>>>> > Carlos

>>>> >

>>>> > "Bobby Johnson" wrote:

>>>> >

>>>> >> Supposedly the RC will not upgrade the Beta unless you change a

>>>> >> value in

>>>> >> cversion.ini which means you have to extract the files from DVD and

>>>> >> then

>>>> >> rebuild a bootable DVD for the installation.

>>>> >>

>>>> >> http://www.blogsdna.com/3083/how-to-upgrad...-build-7100.htm

>>>> >> http://www.zimbio.com/Windows+7/articles/2...7000+Build+7100

>>>> >>

>>>> >> Or, if you extract the files and edit the cversion.ini you can put

>>>> >> the

>>>> >> files on a USB stick and load from there.

>>>> >> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/dd535816.aspx

>>>> >>

>>>> >> Carlos wrote:

>>>> >>> Tony,

>>>> >>> If you don't want to lose all that time that took you to configure

>>>> >>> and

>>>> >>> install things the way you like, you can always launch 7100

>>>> >>> installation as

>>>> >>> an upgrade.

>>>> >>> Boot 7000, insert the 7100 DVD, and choose upgrade.

>>>> >>> Carlos

>>>> >>>

>>>> >>> "tsperling" wrote:

>>>> >>>

>>>> >>>> Ah - that is a relief, many thanks!

>>>> >>>>

>>>> >>>> It's too hot to think here, so I'll just sit down and muster some

>>>> >>>> energy for

>>>> >>>> a night I didn't know I bargained for.

>>>> >>>>

>>>> >>>> Tony. . .

>>>> >>>>

>>>> >>>> "Bobby Johnson" wrote in

>>>> >>>> message

>>>> >>>> news:u#upahM#JHA.4692@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>> >>>>> Your key is valid for multiple activations of both the Beta

>>>> >>>>> and/or RC. If

>>>> >>>>> I remember correctly Microsoft said unlimited activations.

>>>> >>>>>

>>>> >>>>> tsperling wrote:

>>>> >>>>>> Yes, that is what happened. Got the 7100 burned and labeled now.

>>>> >>>>>> Fortunately, I do have it all in fresh memory, but it's a long

>>>> >>>>>> time since

>>>> >>>>>> I was so disappointed. Now, the bigger issue may be that I

>>>> >>>>>> actually used

>>>> >>>>>> the RC Key to activate the Beta - what to do about that?

>>>> >>>>>>

>>>> >>>>>> Tony. . .

>>>> >>>>>>

>>>> >>>>>> "tsperling" wrote in message

>>>> >>>>>> news:6BB62F3F-BEF4-4F6D-A7DD-B052BCE78454@microsoft.com...

>>>> >>>>>>> Yeah - that is the upside of it. But I was downloading so much

>>>> >>>>>>> in those

>>>> >>>>>>> days I may have both and just burned the wrong one?

>>>> >>>>>>>

>>>> >>>>>>> Gawd!

>>>> >>>>>>>

>>>> >>>>>>> Tony. . .

>>>> >>>>>>>

>>>> >>>>>>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote

>>>> >>>>>>> in

>>>> >>>>>>> message news:#DLMxsL#JHA.3768@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>> >>>>>>>> Time to fire up the wireless again, Tony. You've got just

>>>> >>>>>>>> about enough

>>>> >>>>>>>> time. You might try here, though I'm sure there are other

>>>> >>>>>>>> download

>>>> >>>>>>>> sites:

>>>> >>>>>>>> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/dd353205.aspx

>>>> >>>>>>>>

>>>> >>>>>>>> --

>>>> >>>>>>>> Charlie.

>>>> >>>>>>>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64

>>>> >>>>>>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>>>> >>>>>>>>

>>>> >>>>>>>> "tsperling" wrote in message

>>>> >>>>>>>> news:6DAE7EAE-AE7C-499D-914A-EEBCE9A50CB9@microsoft.com...

>>>> >>>>>>>>> Ha, I shouldn't wonder, but I hope not, it took me 17hours to

>>>> >>>>>>>>> have it

>>>> >>>>>>>>> trickle down the wireless!!!

>>>> >>>>>>>>>

>>>> >>>>>>>>> It is Build 7000

>>>> >>>>>>>>>

>>>> >>>>>>>>> Tony. . .

>>>> >>>>>>>>>

>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Bobby Johnson" wrote in

>>>> >>>>>>>>> message

>>>> >>>>>>>>> news:O2a96ZL#JHA.3544@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It sounds like you may have the Win 7 Beta instead of the

>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Win 7 RC.

>>>> >>>>>>>>>>

>>>> >>>>>>>>>> tsperling wrote:

>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I activated yesterday and was greeted as having completed

>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> this. Now,

>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> this morning, I was told that "This pre-release version

>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> will expire

>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> in three days". I rummaged around a bit and clicked on

>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> something and

>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> the activation gave me the O.K. again.

>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>

>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Now, a few hours later, the message is back saying it will

>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> expire in

>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> three days. Is this a known issue that can be ignored?

>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>

>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Tony. . .

>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>

June 30, 2009

Re: OT: Heat? Re: Windows Activation issue.

Tony,

I share you feelings about what is hot down here in summer.

It is as if you had to add 10C to the temperature reading in the thermometer

in order to make it sense.

Let's say, 10C down here feels as hot as 20C in the civilized world.

We are now in winter and the temperature is above zero!

I have had to turn down the heating because I was melting inside my house.

Maybe in these extreme latitudes that 0.5C of worldwide average temperature

increase gets its peaks.

I'd dare to say that down here the avg temp has increased 5C.

We eve don't have ice in the streets during winter.

Carlos

"tsperling" wrote:

> Yes, not quite that hot here, I confess. I shouldn't complain - it's just

> that I can't stop thinking about that particularly hot place that is

> mentioned in several of our important religions. I'm the sort of person who

> likes snow and ice. In sunlight anything over 10C is too hot, in the evening

> 18C is really nice but at 24C the fun bit stops no matter the time or

> conditions. For the last week or so we've had from 27 - 30C and this being

> on the coast which means 'humidity', that makes it hot. Right now, at 11AM

> we're having some 23C (and rising) and that feels somewhat agreeable now

> with a faint wind and a veil of cloud to it.

>

> I should be living on a mountain where the air is dry, that sort of takes

> away the impact of changing conditions.

>

> I once had a BMW twin (MC) that I drove to Yugoslavia in the summer of -82

> and we had 4 days with 44C and that very nearly killed me off, so at 30C I

> start panicking.

>

> The thing with the arctic climate is you don't need a meteorologist or a

> thermometer - you look out the window and it's obvious how you need to

> dress. With heat there is a limit to how much you can take off, and that

> limit happens much too soon, you hit it and, even if you go nekkid, the rest

> is pain, struggle, no energy to think or eat and complete despair (although

> I usually put up a good fight with that)

>

> The hardest bit is that after some ten days the body adjusts and you stop

> thinking so much about it, but then it gets colder again which also isn't so

> nice then.

>

> If you zoom in on Sweden and type [Lane Ryr, Uddevalla] in your google earth

> you should get a close-up of the general area, the big lake is VÃƒÂ¤nern (the

> fourteenth biggest lake in the world I am told. Big enough that a Geologist

> recognizes it as an Inland (or Continental?) Ocean, and at this time we have

> complete darkness only for a maximum of 1 hour around midnight and that

> really is a bonus.

>

> (If you have the Flightsimulator, there is a local airport (ESGT) 30 - 40

> minutes away from here.)

>

> Tony. . .

>

> "R. C. White" wrote in message

> news:e1iWL2S#JHA.4984@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> > Hi, Tony.

> >

> > You keep mentioning the heat. Where (in the world) did you move to? From

> > Denmark, right?

> >

> > How hot is hot? Here in Central Texas we've broken heat records just

> > about every day for the past week. Austin was 106F today, breaking the

> > old record for the date of 102F. (That's about 41C and 39C, I think.)

> > We've been 100F or higher for about 15 of the last 16 days (fell to 98F

> > one day to cool us off). And it's not yet July! Hottest day ever here

> > was 112F - in September 2000! Is that hot?

> >

> > RC

> > --

> > R. C. White, CPA

> > San Marcos, TX

> > rc@grandecom.net

> > Microsoft Windows MVP

> > Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8064.0206) in Win7 Ultimate x64 RC 7100

> >

> > "tsperling" wrote in message

> > news:C5F83B7D-989D-493C-920C-01F931CB9FA7@microsoft.com...

> >> Actually, this is what I will attempt to do - listening to everybody and

> >> seeing there is only about 36 - 40 hours left now, I'd like to have some

> >> elbowroom if I 'botch' this. I have other things on my mind as well, like

> >> keeping the place tidy and finding a job, while also puffing and panting

> >> in the heat. I believe you Charlie, but I feel unprepared and think I'd

> >> better push the WET bit off for the RTM install job.

> >>

> >> Thanks to all! - (Into the b-b-breach boys!!!)

> >>

> >> Tony. . .

> >>

> >> "Carlos" wrote in message

> >> news:C1E04E8A-1A72-45BA-BF3C-BB627234B7E2@microsoft.com...

> >>> Bobby,

> >>> Also, if you have a running OS, copying the disc files to an available

> >>> partition on you hard disk(s) and running the install from there is much

> >>> faster.

> >>> That's what I did in my notebook.

> >>> Carlos

> >>>

> >>> "Bobby Johnson" wrote:

> >>>

> >>>> I never tried to upgrade from Beta to RC but thought it might be

> >>>> something to be aware of if Tony ran in to any problems.

> >>>>

> >>>> After seeing the one on using a USB stick I have followed that and do

> >>>> all my installs from USB since it is a bit faster than reading from a

> >>>> DVD.

> >>>>

> >>>> Carlos wrote:

> >>>> > Bobby,

> >>>> > Not quite sure, but I am 99% confident that I installed 7100 on top

> >>>> > of 7000

> >>>> > in my notebook without the need of any tweaks.

> >>>> > Carlos

> >>>> >

> >>>> > "Bobby Johnson" wrote:

> >>>> >

> >>>> >> Supposedly the RC will not upgrade the Beta unless you change a

> >>>> >> value in

> >>>> >> cversion.ini which means you have to extract the files from DVD and

> >>>> >> then

> >>>> >> rebuild a bootable DVD for the installation.

> >>>> >>

> >>>> >> http://www.blogsdna.com/3083/how-to-upgrad...-build-7100.htm

> >>>> >> http://www.zimbio.com/Windows+7/articles/2...7000+Build+7100

> >>>> >>

> >>>> >> Or, if you extract the files and edit the cversion.ini you can put

> >>>> >> the

> >>>> >> files on a USB stick and load from there.

> >>>> >> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/dd535816.aspx

> >>>> >>

> >>>> >> Carlos wrote:

> >>>> >>> Tony,

> >>>> >>> If you don't want to lose all that time that took you to configure

> >>>> >>> and

> >>>> >>> install things the way you like, you can always launch 7100

> >>>> >>> installation as

> >>>> >>> an upgrade.

> >>>> >>> Boot 7000, insert the 7100 DVD, and choose upgrade.

> >>>> >>> Carlos

> >>>> >>>

> >>>> >>> "tsperling" wrote:

> >>>> >>>

> >>>> >>>> Ah - that is a relief, many thanks!

> >>>> >>>>

> >>>> >>>> It's too hot to think here, so I'll just sit down and muster some

> >>>> >>>> energy for

> >>>> >>>> a night I didn't know I bargained for.

> >>>> >>>>

> >>>> >>>> Tony. . .

> >>>> >>>>

> >>>> >>>> "Bobby Johnson" wrote in

> >>>> >>>> message

> >>>> >>>> news:u#upahM#JHA.4692@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> >>>> >>>>> Your key is valid for multiple activations of both the Beta

> >>>> >>>>> and/or RC. If

> >>>> >>>>> I remember correctly Microsoft said unlimited activations.

> >>>> >>>>>

> >>>> >>>>> tsperling wrote:

> >>>> >>>>>> Yes, that is what happened. Got the 7100 burned and labeled now.

> >>>> >>>>>> Fortunately, I do have it all in fresh memory, but it's a long

> >>>> >>>>>> time since

> >>>> >>>>>> I was so disappointed. Now, the bigger issue may be that I

> >>>> >>>>>> actually used

> >>>> >>>>>> the RC Key to activate the Beta - what to do about that?

> >>>> >>>>>>

> >>>> >>>>>> Tony. . .

> >>>> >>>>>>

> >>>> >>>>>> "tsperling" wrote in message

> >>>> >>>>>> news:6BB62F3F-BEF4-4F6D-A7DD-B052BCE78454@microsoft.com...

> >>>> >>>>>>> Yeah - that is the upside of it. But I was downloading so much

> >>>> >>>>>>> in those

> >>>> >>>>>>> days I may have both and just burned the wrong one?

> >>>> >>>>>>>

> >>>> >>>>>>> Gawd!

> >>>> >>>>>>>

> >>>> >>>>>>> Tony. . .

> >>>> >>>>>>>

> >>>> >>>>>>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote

> >>>> >>>>>>> in

> >>>> >>>>>>> message news:#DLMxsL#JHA.3768@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> >>>> >>>>>>>> Time to fire up the wireless again, Tony. You've got just

> >>>> >>>>>>>> about enough

> >>>> >>>>>>>> time. You might try here, though I'm sure there are other

> >>>> >>>>>>>> download

> >>>> >>>>>>>> sites:

> >>>> >>>>>>>> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/dd353205.aspx

> >>>> >>>>>>>>

> >>>> >>>>>>>> --

> >>>> >>>>>>>> Charlie.

> >>>> >>>>>>>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64

> >>>> >>>>>>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

> >>>> >>>>>>>>

> >>>> >>>>>>>> "tsperling" wrote in message

> >>>> >>>>>>>> news:6DAE7EAE-AE7C-499D-914A-EEBCE9A50CB9@microsoft.com...

> >>>> >>>>>>>>> Ha, I shouldn't wonder, but I hope not, it took me 17hours to

> >>>> >>>>>>>>> have it

> >>>> >>>>>>>>> trickle down the wireless!!!

> >>>> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>> >>>>>>>>> It is Build 7000

> >>>> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>> >>>>>>>>> Tony. . .

> >>>> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>> >>>>>>>>> "Bobby Johnson" wrote in

> >>>> >>>>>>>>> message

> >>>> >>>>>>>>> news:O2a96ZL#JHA.3544@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> It sounds like you may have the Win 7 Beta instead of the

> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> Win 7 RC.

> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>

> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> tsperling wrote:

> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I activated yesterday and was greeted as having completed

> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> this. Now,

> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> this morning, I was told that "This pre-release version

> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> will expire

> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> in three days". I rummaged around a bit and clicked on

> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> something and

> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> the activation gave me the O.K. again.

> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Now, a few hours later, the message is back saying it will

> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> expire in

> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> three days. Is this a known issue that can be ignored?

> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Tony. . .

> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>

June 30, 2009

Re: OT: Heat? Re: Windows Activation issue.

That is precisely how it is. Latitude and humidity rules our level of

discomfort.

And driving on ice and hard packed snow is infinitely much safer than

driving on sleet.

Tony. . .

"Carlos" wrote in message

news:93319925-8657-4AA3-8DDF-AE39CE159AE8@microsoft.com...

> Tony,

> I share you feelings about what is hot down here in summer.

> It is as if you had to add 10C to the temperature reading in the

> thermometer

> in order to make it sense.

> Let's say, 10C down here feels as hot as 20C in the civilized world.

> We are now in winter and the temperature is above zero!

> I have had to turn down the heating because I was melting inside my house.

> Maybe in these extreme latitudes that 0.5C of worldwide average

> temperature

> increase gets its peaks.

> I'd dare to say that down here the avg temp has increased 5C.

> We eve don't have ice in the streets during winter.

> Carlos

>

> "tsperling" wrote:

>

>> Yes, not quite that hot here, I confess. I shouldn't complain - it's just

>> that I can't stop thinking about that particularly hot place that is

>> mentioned in several of our important religions. I'm the sort of person

>> who

>> likes snow and ice. In sunlight anything over 10C is too hot, in the

>> evening

>> 18C is really nice but at 24C the fun bit stops no matter the time or

>> conditions. For the last week or so we've had from 27 - 30C and this

>> being

>> on the coast which means 'humidity', that makes it hot. Right now, at

>> 11AM

>> we're having some 23C (and rising) and that feels somewhat agreeable now

>> with a faint wind and a veil of cloud to it.

>>

>> I should be living on a mountain where the air is dry, that sort of takes

>> away the impact of changing conditions.

>>

>> I once had a BMW twin (MC) that I drove to Yugoslavia in the summer

>> of -82

>> and we had 4 days with 44C and that very nearly killed me off, so at 30C

>> I

>> start panicking.

>>

>> The thing with the arctic climate is you don't need a meteorologist or a

>> thermometer - you look out the window and it's obvious how you need to

>> dress. With heat there is a limit to how much you can take off, and that

>> limit happens much too soon, you hit it and, even if you go nekkid, the

>> rest

>> is pain, struggle, no energy to think or eat and complete despair

>> (although

>> I usually put up a good fight with that)

>>

>> The hardest bit is that after some ten days the body adjusts and you stop

>> thinking so much about it, but then it gets colder again which also isn't

>> so

>> nice then.

>>

>> If you zoom in on Sweden and type [Lane Ryr, Uddevalla] in your google

>> earth

>> you should get a close-up of the general area, the big lake is VÃƒÂ¤nern

>> (the

>> fourteenth biggest lake in the world I am told. Big enough that a

>> Geologist

>> recognizes it as an Inland (or Continental?) Ocean, and at this time we

>> have

>> complete darkness only for a maximum of 1 hour around midnight and that

>> really is a bonus.

>>

>> (If you have the Flightsimulator, there is a local airport (ESGT) 30 - 40

>> minutes away from here.)

>>

>> Tony. . .

>>

>> "R. C. White" wrote in message

>> news:e1iWL2S#JHA.4984@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> > Hi, Tony.

>> >

>> > You keep mentioning the heat. Where (in the world) did you move to?

>> > From

>> > Denmark, right?

>> >

>> > How hot is hot? Here in Central Texas we've broken heat records just

>> > about every day for the past week. Austin was 106F today, breaking the

>> > old record for the date of 102F. (That's about 41C and 39C, I think.)

>> > We've been 100F or higher for about 15 of the last 16 days (fell to 98F

>> > one day to cool us off). And it's not yet July! Hottest day ever here

>> > was 112F - in September 2000! Is that hot?

>> >

>> > RC

>> > --

>> > R. C. White, CPA

>> > San Marcos, TX

>> > rc@grandecom.net

>> > Microsoft Windows MVP

>> > Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8064.0206) in Win7 Ultimate x64 RC 7100

>> >

>> > "tsperling" wrote in message

>> > news:C5F83B7D-989D-493C-920C-01F931CB9FA7@microsoft.com...

>> >> Actually, this is what I will attempt to do - listening to everybody

>> >> and

>> >> seeing there is only about 36 - 40 hours left now, I'd like to have

>> >> some

>> >> elbowroom if I 'botch' this. I have other things on my mind as well,

>> >> like

>> >> keeping the place tidy and finding a job, while also puffing and

>> >> panting

>> >> in the heat. I believe you Charlie, but I feel unprepared and think

>> >> I'd

>> >> better push the WET bit off for the RTM install job.

>> >>

>> >> Thanks to all! - (Into the b-b-breach boys!!!)

>> >>

>> >> Tony. . .

>> >>

>> >> "Carlos" wrote in message

>> >> news:C1E04E8A-1A72-45BA-BF3C-BB627234B7E2@microsoft.com...

>> >>> Bobby,

>> >>> Also, if you have a running OS, copying the disc files to an

>> >>> available

>> >>> partition on you hard disk(s) and running the install from there is

>> >>> much

>> >>> faster.

>> >>> That's what I did in my notebook.

>> >>> Carlos

>> >>>

>> >>> "Bobby Johnson" wrote:

>> >>>

>> >>>> I never tried to upgrade from Beta to RC but thought it might be

>> >>>> something to be aware of if Tony ran in to any problems.

>> >>>>

>> >>>> After seeing the one on using a USB stick I have followed that and

>> >>>> do

>> >>>> all my installs from USB since it is a bit faster than reading from

>> >>>> a

>> >>>> DVD.

>> >>>>

>> >>>> Carlos wrote:

>> >>>> > Bobby,

>> >>>> > Not quite sure, but I am 99% confident that I installed 7100 on

>> >>>> > top

>> >>>> > of 7000

>> >>>> > in my notebook without the need of any tweaks.

>> >>>> > Carlos

>> >>>> >

>> >>>> > "Bobby Johnson" wrote:

>> >>>> >

>> >>>> >> Supposedly the RC will not upgrade the Beta unless you change a

>> >>>> >> value in

>> >>>> >> cversion.ini which means you have to extract the files from DVD

>> >>>> >> and

>> >>>> >> then

>> >>>> >> rebuild a bootable DVD for the installation.

>> >>>> >>

>> >>>> >> http://www.blogsdna.com/3083/how-to-upgrad...-build-7100.htm

>> >>>> >> http://www.zimbio.com/Windows+7/articles/2...7000+Build+7100

>> >>>> >>

>> >>>> >> Or, if you extract the files and edit the cversion.ini you can

>> >>>> >> put

>> >>>> >> the

>> >>>> >> files on a USB stick and load from there.

>> >>>> >> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/dd535816.aspx

>> >>>> >>

>> >>>> >> Carlos wrote:

>> >>>> >>> Tony,

>> >>>> >>> If you don't want to lose all that time that took you to

>> >>>> >>> configure

>> >>>> >>> and

>> >>>> >>> install things the way you like, you can always launch 7100

>> >>>> >>> installation as

>> >>>> >>> an upgrade.

>> >>>> >>> Boot 7000, insert the 7100 DVD, and choose upgrade.

>> >>>> >>> Carlos

>> >>>> >>>

>> >>>> >>> "tsperling" wrote:

>> >>>> >>>

>> >>>> >>>> Ah - that is a relief, many thanks!

>> >>>> >>>>

>> >>>> >>>> It's too hot to think here, so I'll just sit down and muster

>> >>>> >>>> some

>> >>>> >>>> energy for

>> >>>> >>>> a night I didn't know I bargained for.

>> >>>> >>>>

>> >>>> >>>> Tony. . .

>> >>>> >>>>

>> >>>> >>>> "Bobby Johnson" wrote in

>> >>>> >>>> message

>> >>>> >>>> news:u#upahM#JHA.4692@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> >>>> >>>>> Your key is valid for multiple activations of both the Beta

>> >>>> >>>>> and/or RC. If

>> >>>> >>>>> I remember correctly Microsoft said unlimited activations.

>> >>>> >>>>>

>> >>>> >>>>> tsperling wrote:

>> >>>> >>>>>> Yes, that is what happened. Got the 7100 burned and labeled

>> >>>> >>>>>> now.

>> >>>> >>>>>> Fortunately, I do have it all in fresh memory, but it's a

>> >>>> >>>>>> long

>> >>>> >>>>>> time since

>> >>>> >>>>>> I was so disappointed. Now, the bigger issue may be that I

>> >>>> >>>>>> actually used

>> >>>> >>>>>> the RC Key to activate the Beta - what to do about that?

>> >>>> >>>>>>

>> >>>> >>>>>> Tony. . .

>> >>>> >>>>>>

>> >>>> >>>>>> "tsperling" wrote in message

>> >>>> >>>>>> news:6BB62F3F-BEF4-4F6D-A7DD-B052BCE78454@microsoft.com...

>> >>>> >>>>>>> Yeah - that is the upside of it. But I was downloading so

>> >>>> >>>>>>> much

>> >>>> >>>>>>> in those

>> >>>> >>>>>>> days I may have both and just burned the wrong one?

>> >>>> >>>>>>>

>> >>>> >>>>>>> Gawd!

>> >>>> >>>>>>>

>> >>>> >>>>>>> Tony. . .

>> >>>> >>>>>>>

>> >>>> >>>>>>> "Charlie Russel - MVP"

>> >>>> >>>>>>> wrote

>> >>>> >>>>>>> in

>> >>>> >>>>>>> message news:#DLMxsL#JHA.3768@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> >>>> >>>>>>>> Time to fire up the wireless again, Tony. You've got just

>> >>>> >>>>>>>> about enough

>> >>>> >>>>>>>> time. You might try here, though I'm sure there are other

>> >>>> >>>>>>>> download

>> >>>> >>>>>>>> sites:

>> >>>> >>>>>>>> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/dd353205.aspx

>> >>>> >>>>>>>>

>> >>>> >>>>>>>> --

>> >>>> >>>>>>>> Charlie.

>> >>>> >>>>>>>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64

>> >>>> >>>>>>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>> >>>> >>>>>>>>

>> >>>> >>>>>>>> "tsperling" wrote in message

>> >>>> >>>>>>>> news:6DAE7EAE-AE7C-499D-914A-EEBCE9A50CB9@microsoft.com...

>> >>>> >>>>>>>>> Ha, I shouldn't wonder, but I hope not, it took me 17hours

>> >>>> >>>>>>>>> to

>> >>>> >>>>>>>>> have it

>> >>>> >>>>>>>>> trickle down the wireless!!!

>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>

>> >>>> >>>>>>>>> It is Build 7000

>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>

>> >>>> >>>>>>>>> Tony. . .

>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>

>> >>>> >>>>>>>>> "Bobby Johnson" wrote

>> >>>> >>>>>>>>> in

>> >>>> >>>>>>>>> message

>> >>>> >>>>>>>>> news:O2a96ZL#JHA.3544@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> It sounds like you may have the Win 7 Beta instead of the

>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> Win 7 RC.

>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>

>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> tsperling wrote:

>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I activated yesterday and was greeted as having

>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> completed

>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> this. Now,

>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> this morning, I was told that "This pre-release version

>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> will expire

>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> in three days". I rummaged around a bit and clicked on

>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> something and

>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> the activation gave me the O.K. again.

>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>

>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Now, a few hours later, the message is back saying it

>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> will

>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> expire in

>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> three days. Is this a known issue that can be ignored?

>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>

>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Tony. . .

>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>

June 30, 2009

Re: OT: Heat? Re: Windows Activation issue.

Agreed. Down here we use special pneumatics for driving on ice.

There are two types.

1.- What we call tires with nails (or pins).

2.- The "silicone" tires which have a sucking effect when temperature of the

road drops below 5C (those are the ones I use). Someone told me that these

are the ones used in Europe.

style_emoticons//smile.gif

Carlos

"tsperling" wrote:

> That is precisely how it is. Latitude and humidity rules our level of

> discomfort.

>

> And driving on ice and hard packed snow is infinitely much safer than

> driving on sleet.

>

> Tony. . .

>

> "Carlos" wrote in message

> news:93319925-8657-4AA3-8DDF-AE39CE159AE8@microsoft.com...

> > Tony,

> > I share you feelings about what is hot down here in summer.

> > It is as if you had to add 10C to the temperature reading in the

> > thermometer

> > in order to make it sense.

> > Let's say, 10C down here feels as hot as 20C in the civilized world.

> > We are now in winter and the temperature is above zero!

> > I have had to turn down the heating because I was melting inside my house.

> > Maybe in these extreme latitudes that 0.5C of worldwide average

> > temperature

> > increase gets its peaks.

> > I'd dare to say that down here the avg temp has increased 5C.

> > We eve don't have ice in the streets during winter.

> > Carlos

> >

> > "tsperling" wrote:

> >

> >> Yes, not quite that hot here, I confess. I shouldn't complain - it's just

> >> that I can't stop thinking about that particularly hot place that is

> >> mentioned in several of our important religions. I'm the sort of person

> >> who

> >> likes snow and ice. In sunlight anything over 10C is too hot, in the

> >> evening

> >> 18C is really nice but at 24C the fun bit stops no matter the time or

> >> conditions. For the last week or so we've had from 27 - 30C and this

> >> being

> >> on the coast which means 'humidity', that makes it hot. Right now, at

> >> 11AM

> >> we're having some 23C (and rising) and that feels somewhat agreeable now

> >> with a faint wind and a veil of cloud to it.

> >>

> >> I should be living on a mountain where the air is dry, that sort of takes

> >> away the impact of changing conditions.

> >>

> >> I once had a BMW twin (MC) that I drove to Yugoslavia in the summer

> >> of -82

> >> and we had 4 days with 44C and that very nearly killed me off, so at 30C

> >> I

> >> start panicking.

> >>

> >> The thing with the arctic climate is you don't need a meteorologist or a

> >> thermometer - you look out the window and it's obvious how you need to

> >> dress. With heat there is a limit to how much you can take off, and that

> >> limit happens much too soon, you hit it and, even if you go nekkid, the

> >> rest

> >> is pain, struggle, no energy to think or eat and complete despair

> >> (although

> >> I usually put up a good fight with that)

> >>

> >> The hardest bit is that after some ten days the body adjusts and you stop

> >> thinking so much about it, but then it gets colder again which also isn't

> >> so

> >> nice then.

> >>

> >> If you zoom in on Sweden and type [Lane Ryr, Uddevalla] in your google

> >> earth

> >> you should get a close-up of the general area, the big lake is VÃƒÂ¤nern

> >> (the

> >> fourteenth biggest lake in the world I am told. Big enough that a

> >> Geologist

> >> recognizes it as an Inland (or Continental?) Ocean, and at this time we

> >> have

> >> complete darkness only for a maximum of 1 hour around midnight and that

> >> really is a bonus.

> >>

> >> (If you have the Flightsimulator, there is a local airport (ESGT) 30 - 40

> >> minutes away from here.)

> >>

> >> Tony. . .

> >>

> >> "R. C. White" wrote in message

> >> news:e1iWL2S#JHA.4984@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> >> > Hi, Tony.

> >> >

> >> > You keep mentioning the heat. Where (in the world) did you move to?

> >> > From

> >> > Denmark, right?

> >> >

> >> > How hot is hot? Here in Central Texas we've broken heat records just

> >> > about every day for the past week. Austin was 106F today, breaking the

> >> > old record for the date of 102F. (That's about 41C and 39C, I think.)

> >> > We've been 100F or higher for about 15 of the last 16 days (fell to 98F

> >> > one day to cool us off). And it's not yet July! Hottest day ever here

> >> > was 112F - in September 2000! Is that hot?

> >> >

> >> > RC

> >> > --

> >> > R. C. White, CPA

> >> > San Marcos, TX

> >> > rc@grandecom.net

> >> > Microsoft Windows MVP

> >> > Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8064.0206) in Win7 Ultimate x64 RC 7100

> >> >

> >> > "tsperling" wrote in message

> >> > news:C5F83B7D-989D-493C-920C-01F931CB9FA7@microsoft.com...

> >> >> Actually, this is what I will attempt to do - listening to everybody

> >> >> and

> >> >> seeing there is only about 36 - 40 hours left now, I'd like to have

> >> >> some

> >> >> elbowroom if I 'botch' this. I have other things on my mind as well,

> >> >> like

> >> >> keeping the place tidy and finding a job, while also puffing and

> >> >> panting

> >> >> in the heat. I believe you Charlie, but I feel unprepared and think

> >> >> I'd

> >> >> better push the WET bit off for the RTM install job.

> >> >>

> >> >> Thanks to all! - (Into the b-b-breach boys!!!)

> >> >>

> >> >> Tony. . .

> >> >>

> >> >> "Carlos" wrote in message

> >> >> news:C1E04E8A-1A72-45BA-BF3C-BB627234B7E2@microsoft.com...

> >> >>> Bobby,

> >> >>> Also, if you have a running OS, copying the disc files to an

> >> >>> available

> >> >>> partition on you hard disk(s) and running the install from there is

> >> >>> much

> >> >>> faster.

> >> >>> That's what I did in my notebook.

> >> >>> Carlos

> >> >>>

> >> >>> "Bobby Johnson" wrote:

> >> >>>

> >> >>>> I never tried to upgrade from Beta to RC but thought it might be

> >> >>>> something to be aware of if Tony ran in to any problems.

> >> >>>>

> >> >>>> After seeing the one on using a USB stick I have followed that and

> >> >>>> do

> >> >>>> all my installs from USB since it is a bit faster than reading from

> >> >>>> a

> >> >>>> DVD.

> >> >>>>

> >> >>>> Carlos wrote:

> >> >>>> > Bobby,

> >> >>>> > Not quite sure, but I am 99% confident that I installed 7100 on

> >> >>>> > top

> >> >>>> > of 7000

> >> >>>> > in my notebook without the need of any tweaks.

> >> >>>> > Carlos

> >> >>>> >

> >> >>>> > "Bobby Johnson" wrote:

> >> >>>> >

> >> >>>> >> Supposedly the RC will not upgrade the Beta unless you change a

> >> >>>> >> value in

> >> >>>> >> cversion.ini which means you have to extract the files from DVD

> >> >>>> >> and

> >> >>>> >> then

> >> >>>> >> rebuild a bootable DVD for the installation.

> >> >>>> >>

> >> >>>> >> http://www.blogsdna.com/3083/how-to-upgrad...-build-7100.htm

> >> >>>> >> http://www.zimbio.com/Windows+7/articles/2...7000+Build+7100

> >> >>>> >>

> >> >>>> >> Or, if you extract the files and edit the cversion.ini you can

> >> >>>> >> put

> >> >>>> >> the

> >> >>>> >> files on a USB stick and load from there.

> >> >>>> >> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/dd535816.aspx

> >> >>>> >>

> >> >>>> >> Carlos wrote:

> >> >>>> >>> Tony,

> >> >>>> >>> If you don't want to lose all that time that took you to

> >> >>>> >>> configure

> >> >>>> >>> and

> >> >>>> >>> install things the way you like, you can always launch 7100

> >> >>>> >>> installation as

> >> >>>> >>> an upgrade.

> >> >>>> >>> Boot 7000, insert the 7100 DVD, and choose upgrade.

> >> >>>> >>> Carlos

> >> >>>> >>>

> >> >>>> >>> "tsperling" wrote:

> >> >>>> >>>

> >> >>>> >>>> Ah - that is a relief, many thanks!

> >> >>>> >>>>

> >> >>>> >>>> It's too hot to think here, so I'll just sit down and muster

> >> >>>> >>>> some

> >> >>>> >>>> energy for

> >> >>>> >>>> a night I didn't know I bargained for.

> >> >>>> >>>>

> >> >>>> >>>> Tony. . .

> >> >>>> >>>>

> >> >>>> >>>> "Bobby Johnson" wrote in

> >> >>>> >>>> message

> >> >>>> >>>> news:u#upahM#JHA.4692@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> >> >>>> >>>>> Your key is valid for multiple activations of both the Beta

> >> >>>> >>>>> and/or RC. If

> >> >>>> >>>>> I remember correctly Microsoft said unlimited activations.

> >> >>>> >>>>>

> >> >>>> >>>>> tsperling wrote:

> >> >>>> >>>>>> Yes, that is what happened. Got the 7100 burned and labeled

> >> >>>> >>>>>> now.

> >> >>>> >>>>>> Fortunately, I do have it all in fresh memory, but it's a

> >> >>>> >>>>>> long

> >> >>>> >>>>>> time since

> >> >>>> >>>>>> I was so disappointed. Now, the bigger issue may be that I

> >> >>>> >>>>>> actually used

> >> >>>> >>>>>> the RC Key to activate the Beta - what to do about that?

> >> >>>> >>>>>>

> >> >>>> >>>>>> Tony. . .

> >> >>>> >>>>>>

> >> >>>> >>>>>> "tsperling" wrote in message

> >> >>>> >>>>>> news:6BB62F3F-BEF4-4F6D-A7DD-B052BCE78454@microsoft.com...

> >> >>>> >>>>>>> Yeah - that is the upside of it. But I was downloading so

> >> >>>> >>>>>>> much

> >> >>>> >>>>>>> in those

> >> >>>> >>>>>>> days I may have both and just burned the wrong one?

> >> >>>> >>>>>>>

> >> >>>> >>>>>>> Gawd!

> >> >>>> >>>>>>>

> >> >>>> >>>>>>> Tony. . .

> >> >>>> >>>>>>>

> >> >>>> >>>>>>> "Charlie Russel - MVP"

> >> >>>> >>>>>>> wrote

> >> >>>> >>>>>>> in

> >> >>>> >>>>>>> message news:#DLMxsL#JHA.3768@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> >> >>>> >>>>>>>> Time to fire up the wireless again, Tony. You've got just

> >> >>>> >>>>>>>> about enough

> >> >>>> >>>>>>>> time. You might try here, though I'm sure there are other

> >> >>>> >>>>>>>> download

> >> >>>> >>>>>>>> sites:

> >> >>>> >>>>>>>> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/dd353205.aspx

> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>

> >> >>>> >>>>>>>> --

> >> >>>> >>>>>>>> Charlie.

> >> >>>> >>>>>>>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64

> >> >>>> >>>>>>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>

> >> >>>> >>>>>>>> "tsperling" wrote in message

> >> >>>> >>>>>>>> news:6DAE7EAE-AE7C-499D-914A-EEBCE9A50CB9@microsoft.com...

> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> Ha, I shouldn't wonder, but I hope not, it took me 17hours

> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> to

> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> have it

> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> trickle down the wireless!!!

> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>

> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> It is Build 7000

> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>

> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> Tony. . .

> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>

> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> "Bobby Johnson" wrote

> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> in

> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> message

> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> news:O2a96ZL#JHA.3544@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> It sounds like you may have the Win 7 Beta instead of the

> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> Win 7 RC.

> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>

> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> tsperling wrote:

> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I activated yesterday and was greeted as having

> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> completed

> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> this. Now,

> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> this morning, I was told that "This pre-release version

> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> will expire

> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> in three days". I rummaged around a bit and clicked on

> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> something and

> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> the activation gave me the O.K. again.

> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>

> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Now, a few hours later, the message is back saying it

> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> will

> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> expire in

> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> three days. Is this a known issue that can be ignored?

> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>

> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Tony. . .

> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>

> >> >>>>

June 30, 2009

Re: OT: Heat? Re: Windows Activation issue.

Hi, Tony.

Sweden!? I thought you must have gone to India - or Brazil! 30C? Let's

see, 30 / 5 = 6 * 9 = 54 + 32 = 86F! That's PERFECT! I'll trade you my

106F and throw in a pitcher of iced tea! ; mentioned in several of our important religions. I'm the sort of person

> who likes snow and ice. In sunlight anything over 10C is too hot, in the

> evening 18C is really nice but at 24C the fun bit stops no matter the time

> or conditions. For the last week or so we've had from 27 - 30C and this

> being on the coast which means 'humidity', that makes it hot. Right now,

> at 11AM we're having some 23C (and rising) and that feels somewhat

> agreeable now with a faint wind and a veil of cloud to it.

>

> I should be living on a mountain where the air is dry, that sort of takes

> away the impact of changing conditions.

>

> I once had a BMW twin (MC) that I drove to Yugoslavia in the summer of -82

> and we had 4 days with 44C and that very nearly killed me off, so at 30C I

> start panicking.

>

> The thing with the arctic climate is you don't need a meteorologist or a

> thermometer - you look out the window and it's obvious how you need to

> dress. With heat there is a limit to how much you can take off, and that

> limit happens much too soon, you hit it and, even if you go nekkid, the

> rest is pain, struggle, no energy to think or eat and complete despair

> (although I usually put up a good fight with that)

>

> The hardest bit is that after some ten days the body adjusts and you stop

> thinking so much about it, but then it gets colder again which also isn't

> so nice then.

>

> If you zoom in on Sweden and type [Lane Ryr, Uddevalla] in your google

> earth you should get a close-up of the general area, the big lake is

> VÃƒÂ¤nern (the fourteenth biggest lake in the world I am told. Big enough

> that a Geologist recognizes it as an Inland (or Continental?) Ocean, and

> at this time we have complete darkness only for a maximum of 1 hour around

> midnight and that really is a bonus.

>

> (If you have the Flightsimulator, there is a local airport (ESGT) 30 - 40

> minutes away from here.)

>

> Tony. . .

>

> "R. C. White" wrote in message

> news:e1iWL2S#JHA.4984@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> Hi, Tony.

>>

>> You keep mentioning the heat. Where (in the world) did you move to?

>> From Denmark, right?

>>

>> How hot is hot? Here in Central Texas we've broken heat records just

>> about every day for the past week. Austin was 106F today, breaking the

>> old record for the date of 102F. (That's about 41C and 39C, I think.)

>> We've been 100F or higher for about 15 of the last 16 days (fell to 98F

>> one day to cool us off). And it's not yet July! Hottest day ever here

>> was 112F - in September 2000! Is that hot?

>>

>> RC [/color]

June 30, 2009

Re: OT: Heat? Re: Windows Activation issue.

It is extremely varied what they use in Europe, in central EU the spikes are

generally forbidden, except in the Alps. In Scandinavia we generally allow

them in the winter season. In Norway, though, they are mandatory in that

season - you don't get across the border without them and trucks must have

snow-chains with them.

The 'friction' tires or 'all-weather' tires as they are also known are

becoming more popular since they are allowed across seasons and the

conditions change quite a lot over reasonably short distances, which all

keeps down the expense.

Of course, in true winter conditions we may have the top performing

non-spiked snow tire you can ever dream of, it's a Nokia (formerly

HakkapÃƒÂ¤llitÃƒÂ¤ÃƒÂ¤, from Finland) that most rally drivers have been using since

before the friction stuff. I drove them once and you can never believe what

they were capable of without trying. But, as always, it comes with a cost,

they will probably not last you a full season, but they'll keep you on the

road.

Tony. . .

"Carlos" wrote in message

news:F0E2903B-636C-49B8-AFEB-18BD8D314672@microsoft.com...

> Agreed. Down here we use special pneumatics for driving on ice.

> There are two types.

> 1.- What we call tires with nails (or pins).

> 2.- The "silicone" tires which have a sucking effect when temperature of

> the

> road drops below 5C (those are the ones I use). Someone told me that these

> are the ones used in Europe.

> style_emoticons//smile.gif

> Carlos

>

> "tsperling" wrote:

>

>> That is precisely how it is. Latitude and humidity rules our level of

>> discomfort.

>>

>> And driving on ice and hard packed snow is infinitely much safer than

>> driving on sleet.

>>

>> Tony. . .

>>

>> "Carlos" wrote in message

>> news:93319925-8657-4AA3-8DDF-AE39CE159AE8@microsoft.com...

>> > Tony,

>> > I share you feelings about what is hot down here in summer.

>> > It is as if you had to add 10C to the temperature reading in the

>> > thermometer

>> > in order to make it sense.

>> > Let's say, 10C down here feels as hot as 20C in the civilized world.

>> > We are now in winter and the temperature is above zero!

>> > I have had to turn down the heating because I was melting inside my

>> > house.

>> > Maybe in these extreme latitudes that 0.5C of worldwide average

>> > temperature

>> > increase gets its peaks.

>> > I'd dare to say that down here the avg temp has increased 5C.

>> > We eve don't have ice in the streets during winter.

>> > Carlos

>> >

>> > "tsperling" wrote:

>> >

>> >> Yes, not quite that hot here, I confess. I shouldn't complain - it's

>> >> just

>> >> that I can't stop thinking about that particularly hot place that is

>> >> mentioned in several of our important religions. I'm the sort of

>> >> person

>> >> who

>> >> likes snow and ice. In sunlight anything over 10C is too hot, in the

>> >> evening

>> >> 18C is really nice but at 24C the fun bit stops no matter the time or

>> >> conditions. For the last week or so we've had from 27 - 30C and this

>> >> being

>> >> on the coast which means 'humidity', that makes it hot. Right now, at

>> >> 11AM

>> >> we're having some 23C (and rising) and that feels somewhat agreeable

>> >> now

>> >> with a faint wind and a veil of cloud to it.

>> >>

>> >> I should be living on a mountain where the air is dry, that sort of

>> >> takes

>> >> away the impact of changing conditions.

>> >>

>> >> I once had a BMW twin (MC) that I drove to Yugoslavia in the summer

>> >> of -82

>> >> and we had 4 days with 44C and that very nearly killed me off, so at

>> >> 30C

>> >> I

>> >> start panicking.

>> >>

>> >> The thing with the arctic climate is you don't need a meteorologist or

>> >> a

>> >> thermometer - you look out the window and it's obvious how you need to

>> >> dress. With heat there is a limit to how much you can take off, and

>> >> that

>> >> limit happens much too soon, you hit it and, even if you go nekkid,

>> >> the

>> >> rest

>> >> is pain, struggle, no energy to think or eat and complete despair

>> >> (although

>> >> I usually put up a good fight with that)

>> >>

>> >> The hardest bit is that after some ten days the body adjusts and you

>> >> stop

>> >> thinking so much about it, but then it gets colder again which also

>> >> isn't

>> >> so

>> >> nice then.

>> >>

>> >> If you zoom in on Sweden and type [Lane Ryr, Uddevalla] in your google

>> >> earth

>> >> you should get a close-up of the general area, the big lake is VÃƒÂ¤nern

>> >> (the

>> >> fourteenth biggest lake in the world I am told. Big enough that a

>> >> Geologist

>> >> recognizes it as an Inland (or Continental?) Ocean, and at this time

>> >> we

>> >> have

>> >> complete darkness only for a maximum of 1 hour around midnight and

>> >> that

>> >> really is a bonus.

>> >>

>> >> (If you have the Flightsimulator, there is a local airport (ESGT) 30 -

>> >> 40

>> >> minutes away from here.)

>> >>

>> >> Tony. . .

>> >>

>> >> "R. C. White" wrote in message

>> >> news:e1iWL2S#JHA.4984@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> >> > Hi, Tony.

>> >> >

>> >> > You keep mentioning the heat. Where (in the world) did you move to?

>> >> > From

>> >> > Denmark, right?

>> >> >

>> >> > How hot is hot? Here in Central Texas we've broken heat records

>> >> > just

>> >> > about every day for the past week. Austin was 106F today, breaking

>> >> > the

>> >> > old record for the date of 102F. (That's about 41C and 39C, I

>> >> > think.)

>> >> > We've been 100F or higher for about 15 of the last 16 days (fell to

>> >> > 98F

>> >> > one day to cool us off). And it's not yet July! Hottest day ever

>> >> > here

>> >> > was 112F - in September 2000! Is that hot?

>> >> >

>> >> > RC

>> >> > --

>> >> > R. C. White, CPA

>> >> > San Marcos, TX

>> >> > rc@grandecom.net

>> >> > Microsoft Windows MVP

>> >> > Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8064.0206) in Win7 Ultimate x64 RC 7100

>> >> >

>> >> > "tsperling" wrote in message

>> >> > news:C5F83B7D-989D-493C-920C-01F931CB9FA7@microsoft.com...

>> >> >> Actually, this is what I will attempt to do - listening to

>> >> >> everybody

>> >> >> and

>> >> >> seeing there is only about 36 - 40 hours left now, I'd like to have

>> >> >> some

>> >> >> elbowroom if I 'botch' this. I have other things on my mind as

>> >> >> well,

>> >> >> like

>> >> >> keeping the place tidy and finding a job, while also puffing and

>> >> >> panting

>> >> >> in the heat. I believe you Charlie, but I feel unprepared and think

>> >> >> I'd

>> >> >> better push the WET bit off for the RTM install job.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> Thanks to all! - (Into the b-b-breach boys!!!)

>> >> >>

>> >> >> Tony. . .

>> >> >>

>> >> >> "Carlos" wrote in message

>> >> >> news:C1E04E8A-1A72-45BA-BF3C-BB627234B7E2@microsoft.com...

>> >> >>> Bobby,

>> >> >>> Also, if you have a running OS, copying the disc files to an

>> >> >>> available

>> >> >>> partition on you hard disk(s) and running the install from there

>> >> >>> is

>> >> >>> much

>> >> >>> faster.

>> >> >>> That's what I did in my notebook.

>> >> >>> Carlos

>> >> >>>

>> >> >>> "Bobby Johnson" wrote:

>> >> >>>

>> >> >>>> I never tried to upgrade from Beta to RC but thought it might be

>> >> >>>> something to be aware of if Tony ran in to any problems.

>> >> >>>>

>> >> >>>> After seeing the one on using a USB stick I have followed that

>> >> >>>> and

>> >> >>>> do

>> >> >>>> all my installs from USB since it is a bit faster than reading

>> >> >>>> from

>> >> >>>> a

>> >> >>>> DVD.

>> >> >>>>

>> >> >>>> Carlos wrote:

>> >> >>>> > Bobby,

>> >> >>>> > Not quite sure, but I am 99% confident that I installed 7100 on

>> >> >>>> > top

>> >> >>>> > of 7000

>> >> >>>> > in my notebook without the need of any tweaks.

>> >> >>>> > Carlos

>> >> >>>> >

>> >> >>>> > "Bobby Johnson" wrote:

>> >> >>>> >

>> >> >>>> >> Supposedly the RC will not upgrade the Beta unless you change

>> >> >>>> >> a

>> >> >>>> >> value in

>> >> >>>> >> cversion.ini which means you have to extract the files from

>> >> >>>> >> DVD

>> >> >>>> >> and

>> >> >>>> >> then

>> >> >>>> >> rebuild a bootable DVD for the installation.

>> >> >>>> >>

>> >> >>>> >> http://www.blogsdna.com/3083/how-to-upgrad...-build-7100.htm

>> >> >>>> >> http://www.zimbio.com/Windows+7/articles/2...7000+Build+7100

>> >> >>>> >>

>> >> >>>> >> Or, if you extract the files and edit the cversion.ini you can

>> >> >>>> >> put

>> >> >>>> >> the

>> >> >>>> >> files on a USB stick and load from there.

>> >> >>>> >> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/dd535816.aspx

>> >> >>>> >>

>> >> >>>> >> Carlos wrote:

>> >> >>>> >>> Tony,

>> >> >>>> >>> If you don't want to lose all that time that took you to

>> >> >>>> >>> configure

>> >> >>>> >>> and

>> >> >>>> >>> install things the way you like, you can always launch 7100

>> >> >>>> >>> installation as

>> >> >>>> >>> an upgrade.

>> >> >>>> >>> Boot 7000, insert the 7100 DVD, and choose upgrade.

>> >> >>>> >>> Carlos

>> >> >>>> >>>

>> >> >>>> >>> "tsperling" wrote:

>> >> >>>> >>>

>> >> >>>> >>>> Ah - that is a relief, many thanks!

>> >> >>>> >>>>

>> >> >>>> >>>> It's too hot to think here, so I'll just sit down and muster

>> >> >>>> >>>> some

>> >> >>>> >>>> energy for

>> >> >>>> >>>> a night I didn't know I bargained for.

>> >> >>>> >>>>

>> >> >>>> >>>> Tony. . .

>> >> >>>> >>>>

>> >> >>>> >>>> "Bobby Johnson" wrote

>> >> >>>> >>>> in

>> >> >>>> >>>> message

>> >> >>>> >>>> news:u#upahM#JHA.4692@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> >> >>>> >>>>> Your key is valid for multiple activations of both the Beta

>> >> >>>> >>>>> and/or RC. If

>> >> >>>> >>>>> I remember correctly Microsoft said unlimited activations.

>> >> >>>> >>>>>

>> >> >>>> >>>>> tsperling wrote:

>> >> >>>> >>>>>> Yes, that is what happened. Got the 7100 burned and

>> >> >>>> >>>>>> labeled

>> >> >>>> >>>>>> now.

>> >> >>>> >>>>>> Fortunately, I do have it all in fresh memory, but it's a

>> >> >>>> >>>>>> long

>> >> >>>> >>>>>> time since

>> >> >>>> >>>>>> I was so disappointed. Now, the bigger issue may be that I

>> >> >>>> >>>>>> actually used

>> >> >>>> >>>>>> the RC Key to activate the Beta - what to do about that?

>> >> >>>> >>>>>>

>> >> >>>> >>>>>> Tony. . .

>> >> >>>> >>>>>>

>> >> >>>> >>>>>> "tsperling" wrote in message

>> >> >>>> >>>>>> news:6BB62F3F-BEF4-4F6D-A7DD-B052BCE78454@microsoft.com...

>> >> >>>> >>>>>>> Yeah - that is the upside of it. But I was downloading so

>> >> >>>> >>>>>>> much

>> >> >>>> >>>>>>> in those

>> >> >>>> >>>>>>> days I may have both and just burned the wrong one?

>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>

>> >> >>>> >>>>>>> Gawd!

>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>

>> >> >>>> >>>>>>> Tony. . .

>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>

>> >> >>>> >>>>>>> "Charlie Russel - MVP"

>> >> >>>> >>>>>>> wrote

>> >> >>>> >>>>>>> in

>> >> >>>> >>>>>>> message news:#DLMxsL#JHA.3768@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>> Time to fire up the wireless again, Tony. You've got

>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>> just

>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>> about enough

>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>> time. You might try here, though I'm sure there are

>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>> other

>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>> download

>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>> sites:

>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/dd353205.aspx

>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>

>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>> --

>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>> Charlie.

>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64

>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>

>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>> "tsperling" wrote in message

>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>> news:6DAE7EAE-AE7C-499D-914A-EEBCE9A50CB9@microsoft.com...

>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> Ha, I shouldn't wonder, but I hope not, it took me

>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> 17hours

>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> to

>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> have it

>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> trickle down the wireless!!!

>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>

>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> It is Build 7000

>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>

>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> Tony. . .

>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>

>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> "Bobby Johnson"

>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> wrote

>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> in

>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> message

>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>> news:O2a96ZL#JHA.3544@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> It sounds like you may have the Win 7 Beta instead of

>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> the

>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> Win 7 RC.

>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>

>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> tsperling wrote:

>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I activated yesterday and was greeted as having

>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> completed

>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> this. Now,

>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> this morning, I was told that "This pre-release

>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> version

>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> will expire

>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> in three days". I rummaged around a bit and clicked

>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> on

>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> something and

>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> the activation gave me the O.K. again.

>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>

>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Now, a few hours later, the message is back saying it

>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> will

>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> expire in

>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> three days. Is this a known issue that can be

>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ignored?

>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>

>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Tony. . .

>> >> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>

>> >> >>>>

June 30, 2009

Re: OT: Heat? Re: Windows Activation issue.

I'm sure, had we had a continental climate, it would still be warm but

sufferable. Ice-tea, or not, that is not my cup.

W7U I already had downloaded, just burned and installed the wrong version

(unmarked disks - couldn't find the CD Marker). Re-installed it last night

and I do like it. For one thing it upped all my index scores to 5,9 except

for the memory score which is 7,1 (looks and feels like a balanced system

with no apparent bottlenecks) - not that it matters, it's the same machine,

and I am comfortable with it.

I really, really like the Newsreader, the small changes are nearly all for

the better, there was one thing I scuffed at, but I don't remember now.

Thank you for challenging me on that.

Tony. . .

"R. C. White" wrote in message

news:#9bfTQY#JHA.1248@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> Hi, Tony.

>

> Sweden!? I thought you must have gone to India - or Brazil! 30C? Let's

> see, 30 / 5 = 6 * 9 = 54 + 32 = 86F! That's PERFECT! I'll trade you my

> 106F and throw in a pitcher of iced tea! ;

> OK. Now, get back to downloading Win7 Ultimate x64 RC - you're gonna like

> it. ;

> RC

> --

> R. C. White, CPA

> San Marcos, TX

> rc@grandecom.net

> Microsoft Windows MVP

> Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8064.0206) in Win7 Ultimate x64 RC 7100

>

> "tsperling" wrote in message

> news:FBA5E737-4311-4BC3-9076-088FD874385C@microsoft.com...

>> Yes, not quite that hot here, I confess. I shouldn't complain - it's just

>> that I can't stop thinking about that particularly hot place that is

>> mentioned in several of our important religions. I'm the sort of person

>> who likes snow and ice. In sunlight anything over 10C is too hot, in the

>> evening 18C is really nice but at 24C the fun bit stops no matter the

>> time or conditions. For the last week or so we've had from 27 - 30C and

>> this being on the coast which means 'humidity', that makes it hot. Right

>> now, at 11AM we're having some 23C (and rising) and that feels somewhat

>> agreeable now with a faint wind and a veil of cloud to it.

>>

>> I should be living on a mountain where the air is dry, that sort of takes

>> away the impact of changing conditions.

>>

>> I once had a BMW twin (MC) that I drove to Yugoslavia in the summer

>> of -82 and we had 4 days with 44C and that very nearly killed me off, so

>> at 30C I start panicking.

>>

>> The thing with the arctic climate is you don't need a meteorologist or a

>> thermometer - you look out the window and it's obvious how you need to

>> dress. With heat there is a limit to how much you can take off, and that

>> limit happens much too soon, you hit it and, even if you go nekkid, the

>> rest is pain, struggle, no energy to think or eat and complete despair

>> (although I usually put up a good fight with that)

>>

>> The hardest bit is that after some ten days the body adjusts and you stop

>> thinking so much about it, but then it gets colder again which also isn't

>> so nice then.

>>

>> If you zoom in on Sweden and type [Lane Ryr, Uddevalla] in your google

>> earth you should get a close-up of the general area, the big lake is

>> VÃƒÂ¤nern (the fourteenth biggest lake in the world I am told. Big enough

>> that a Geologist recognizes it as an Inland (or Continental?) Ocean, and

>> at this time we have complete darkness only for a maximum of 1 hour

>> around midnight and that really is a bonus.

>>

>> (If you have the Flightsimulator, there is a local airport (ESGT) 30 - 40

>> minutes away from here.)

>>

>> Tony. . .

>>

>> "R. C. White" wrote in message

>> news:e1iWL2S#JHA.4984@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>> Hi, Tony.

>>>

>>> You keep mentioning the heat. Where (in the world) did you move to?

>>> From Denmark, right?

>>>

>>> How hot is hot? Here in Central Texas we've broken heat records just

>>> about every day for the past week. Austin was 106F today, breaking the

>>> old record for the date of 102F. (That's about 41C and 39C, I think.)

>>> We've been 100F or higher for about 15 of the last 16 days (fell to 98F

>>> one day to cool us off). And it's not yet July! Hottest day ever here

>>> was 112F - in September 2000! Is that hot?

>>>

>>> RC

>

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