Guest I eat vista Posted September 18, 2007 Posted September 18, 2007 Shall we say that the truth is finally shining? Shall we say "I was telling you so"? Shall we say that I was explaining to the fanboys that everyones Vista out and XP in? Keep reading! http://crn.com/digital-home/201805832?cid=microsoftFeed By Steven Burke, CMP Channel 12:00 AM EDT Mon. Sep. 17, 2007 From the September 17, 2007 issue of CRN Digital home integrators say Microsoft's Windows Vista operating system has been a big fat bust in the home market. That bleak Vista view, however, has translated into healthy profits for home integrators ripping Vista off systems and replacing the much-ballyhooed operating system with Windows XP. Microsoft, for its part, claims demand is strong for Vista and its momentum is unprecedented. But digital home integrators at the D&H Distributing New England Technology Show last month in Quincy, Mass., say they are seeing a healthy rip-and-replace business that is winning them over new customers who bought systems at retail. Bunker Herbest, co-owner of Computer Essentials, a Bangor, Maine, system builder, said out of the 40 systems a month that Computer Essentials is building, only about five are Vista-based systems. Herbest said his shop was ripping and replacing Vista with XP on as many as 12 systems a month. Computer Essentials, in fact, has been advertising its ability to offer Windows XP rather than Vista. The Vista rip-and-replace service has "definitely been good for business," Herbest said. "What's great is Vista is being pushed everywhere. Customers can't find anybody to get rid of it so they come see people like us. We're getting a couple of customers a day at least." Herbest said consumers have been frustrated by the new Vista graphical user interface and the pop-up security update requests. "People that used XP can't find anything," he said. "It takes time to ramp up and learn Vista." Douglas Lee, CFO and director of business development at BostonTech Partners, a Canton, Mass., solution provider, said his shop is building about 50 systems a month and every one of them is going out with Windows XP. The only Vista-related business BostonTech is doing is ripping it off laptop systems, Lee said. A lot of time and energy is being spent trying to replace Vista, he said. "Microsoft should have provided the option of having XP on laptops as opposed to Vista," he said. "There should have been an easier downgrade method. Microsoft is force-feeding the consumer market like they usually do. It's their way or the highway." Lee said one problem with Vista is the 64-bit platform that the operating system can power is not necessary for many customers. Paul LaRochelle, president of PC Authority, a Manchester, N.H., solution provider, said 99.9 percent of the systems from PC Authority are shipping with Windows XP rather than Vista. Since the introduction of Vista, he said, PC Authority has sold only a dozen copies of the operating system. "Just because there is a new car or a bigger hard drive doesn't mean you have to go buy it," he said. Greg Abrams, vice president and director of technology at PC-Plus Technologies, an Auburn, Mass., solution provider, said his business is seeing Vista adoption from several major clients. He said about 40 percent of the systems being shipped from PC-Plus are Vista-based, with 60 percent XP-based. Furthermore, he said PC-Plus has been working with clients to rip Vista off some notebook systems that lack XP drivers. As a result, he said, PC-Plus is installing Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 for a number of clients. Abrams praised Virtual PC 2007, which is free, for solving major application compatibility issues so customers can run applications like Adobe Acrobat 6.0. "This is more of a [workaround] solution for our customers than a profit-driver," he said. "It took a lot of time to figure it out and learn how to deploy it correctly." LaRochelle said he feels it is better to wait for the first Windows Service Pack to come out before pushing the operating system. Microsoft has said it plans to launch the first service pack for Windows Vista during the first quarter of 2008.
Guest Frank Posted September 18, 2007 Posted September 18, 2007 Re: Vista = big fat bust in the home market. I eat vista wrote: > Shall we say that the truth is finally shining? > Shall we say "I was telling you so"? > Shall we say that I was explaining to the fanboys that everyones Vista out > and XP in? > Keep reading! > > http://crn.com/digital-home/201805832?cid=microsoftFeed > > By Steven Burke, CMP Channel > 12:00 AM EDT Mon. Sep. 17, 2007 > From the September 17, 2007 issue of CRN > > Digital home integrators say Microsoft's Windows Vista operating system has > been a big fat bust in the home market. > That bleak Vista view, however, has translated into healthy profits for home > integrators ripping Vista off systems and replacing the much-ballyhooed > operating system with Windows XP. > Microsoft, for its part, claims demand is strong for Vista and its momentum > is unprecedented. But digital home integrators at the D&H Distributing New > England Technology Show last month in Quincy, Mass., say they are seeing a > healthy rip-and-replace business that is winning them over new customers who > bought systems at retail. > Bunker Herbest, co-owner of Computer Essentials, a Bangor, Maine, system > builder, said out of the 40 systems a month that Computer Essentials is > building, only about five are Vista-based systems. > Herbest said his shop was ripping and replacing Vista with XP on as many as > 12 systems a month. Computer Essentials, in fact, has been advertising its > ability to offer Windows XP rather than Vista. > The Vista rip-and-replace service has "definitely been good for business," > Herbest said. "What's great is Vista is being pushed everywhere. Customers > can't find anybody to get rid of it so they come see people like us. We're > getting a couple of customers a day at least." > Herbest said consumers have been frustrated by the new Vista graphical user > interface and the pop-up security update requests. "People that used XP > can't find anything," he said. "It takes time to ramp up and learn Vista." > Douglas Lee, CFO and director of business development at BostonTech > Partners, a Canton, Mass., solution provider, said his shop is building > about 50 systems a month and every one of them is going out with Windows XP. > The only Vista-related business BostonTech is doing is ripping it off laptop > systems, Lee said. A lot of time and energy is being spent trying to replace > Vista, he said. "Microsoft should have provided the option of having XP on > laptops as opposed to Vista," he said. "There should have been an easier > downgrade method. Microsoft is force-feeding the consumer market like they > usually do. It's their way or the highway." > Lee said one problem with Vista is the 64-bit platform that the operating > system can power is not necessary for many customers. > Paul LaRochelle, president of PC Authority, a Manchester, N.H., solution > provider, said 99.9 percent of the systems from PC Authority are shipping > with Windows XP rather than Vista. Since the introduction of Vista, he said, > PC Authority has sold only a dozen copies of the operating system. "Just > because there is a new car or a bigger hard drive doesn't mean you have to > go buy it," he said. > Greg Abrams, vice president and director of technology at PC-Plus > Technologies, an Auburn, Mass., solution provider, said his business is > seeing Vista adoption from several major clients. He said about 40 percent > of the systems being shipped from PC-Plus are Vista-based, with 60 percent > XP-based. Furthermore, he said PC-Plus has been working with clients to rip > Vista off some notebook systems that lack XP drivers. As a result, he said, > PC-Plus is installing Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 for a number of clients. > Abrams praised Virtual PC 2007, which is free, for solving major application > compatibility issues so customers can run applications like Adobe Acrobat > 6.0. "This is more of a [workaround] solution for our customers than a > profit-driver," he said. "It took a lot of time to figure it out and learn > how to deploy it correctly." > LaRochelle said he feels it is better to wait for the first Windows Service > Pack to come out before pushing the operating system. Microsoft has said it > plans to launch the first service pack for Windows Vista during the first > quarter of 2008. > > Oh please capin' crunch, stop making a fool out of yourself ok? Did you even bother to read that stupid article? 40-50 installs a months? And they’re proly exaggerating those numbers. The dinosaurs will be back before those clowns could even make a dent in the market. Come on...get serious, ok? Frank
Guest Alias Posted September 18, 2007 Posted September 18, 2007 Re: Vista = big fat bust in the home market. Frank wrote: > I eat vista wrote: >> Shall we say that the truth is finally shining? >> Shall we say "I was telling you so"? >> Shall we say that I was explaining to the fanboys that everyones Vista >> out and XP in? >> Keep reading! >> >> http://crn.com/digital-home/201805832?cid=microsoftFeed >> >> By Steven Burke, CMP Channel >> 12:00 AM EDT Mon. Sep. 17, 2007 >> From the September 17, 2007 issue of CRN >> >> Digital home integrators say Microsoft's Windows Vista operating >> system has been a big fat bust in the home market. >> That bleak Vista view, however, has translated into healthy profits >> for home integrators ripping Vista off systems and replacing the >> much-ballyhooed operating system with Windows XP. >> Microsoft, for its part, claims demand is strong for Vista and its >> momentum is unprecedented. But digital home integrators at the D&H >> Distributing New England Technology Show last month in Quincy, Mass., >> say they are seeing a healthy rip-and-replace business that is winning >> them over new customers who bought systems at retail. >> Bunker Herbest, co-owner of Computer Essentials, a Bangor, Maine, >> system builder, said out of the 40 systems a month that Computer >> Essentials is building, only about five are Vista-based systems. >> Herbest said his shop was ripping and replacing Vista with XP on as >> many as 12 systems a month. Computer Essentials, in fact, has been >> advertising its ability to offer Windows XP rather than Vista. >> The Vista rip-and-replace service has "definitely been good for >> business," Herbest said. "What's great is Vista is being pushed >> everywhere. Customers can't find anybody to get rid of it so they come >> see people like us. We're getting a couple of customers a day at least." >> Herbest said consumers have been frustrated by the new Vista graphical >> user interface and the pop-up security update requests. "People that >> used XP can't find anything," he said. "It takes time to ramp up and >> learn Vista." >> Douglas Lee, CFO and director of business development at BostonTech >> Partners, a Canton, Mass., solution provider, said his shop is >> building about 50 systems a month and every one of them is going out >> with Windows XP. >> The only Vista-related business BostonTech is doing is ripping it off >> laptop systems, Lee said. A lot of time and energy is being spent >> trying to replace Vista, he said. "Microsoft should have provided the >> option of having XP on laptops as opposed to Vista," he said. "There >> should have been an easier downgrade method. Microsoft is >> force-feeding the consumer market like they usually do. It's their way >> or the highway." >> Lee said one problem with Vista is the 64-bit platform that the >> operating system can power is not necessary for many customers. >> Paul LaRochelle, president of PC Authority, a Manchester, N.H., >> solution provider, said 99.9 percent of the systems from PC Authority >> are shipping with Windows XP rather than Vista. Since the introduction >> of Vista, he said, PC Authority has sold only a dozen copies of the >> operating system. "Just because there is a new car or a bigger hard >> drive doesn't mean you have to go buy it," he said. >> Greg Abrams, vice president and director of technology at PC-Plus >> Technologies, an Auburn, Mass., solution provider, said his business >> is seeing Vista adoption from several major clients. He said about 40 >> percent of the systems being shipped from PC-Plus are Vista-based, >> with 60 percent XP-based. Furthermore, he said PC-Plus has been >> working with clients to rip Vista off some notebook systems that lack >> XP drivers. As a result, he said, PC-Plus is installing Microsoft >> Virtual PC 2007 for a number of clients. >> Abrams praised Virtual PC 2007, which is free, for solving major >> application compatibility issues so customers can run applications >> like Adobe Acrobat 6.0. "This is more of a [workaround] solution for >> our customers than a profit-driver," he said. "It took a lot of time >> to figure it out and learn how to deploy it correctly." >> LaRochelle said he feels it is better to wait for the first Windows >> Service Pack to come out before pushing the operating system. >> Microsoft has said it plans to launch the first service pack for >> Windows Vista during the first quarter of 2008. >> > Oh please capin' crunch, stop making a fool out of yourself ok? > Did you even bother to read that stupid article? > 40-50 installs a months? And they’re proly exaggerating those numbers. > The dinosaurs will be back before those clowns could even make a dent in > the market. > Come on...get serious, ok? > Frank > Yep, MS depends on having customers like you, Frank, who don't think and just plop their money down. Course, you lie and can't afford Vista which is why you are using T-Bird to post instead of Windows Mail. You could prove me wrong by using Windows Mail but you won't. You'll just reply to this post with your usual lies, insults and bluster. -- Alias To email me, remove shoes
Guest Mick Murphy Posted September 18, 2007 Posted September 18, 2007 RE: Vista = big fat bust in the home market. They are definitely one of the BIG, BIG OEM computer producers, aren't they? Hahahahahahaha! "I eat vista" wrote: > Shall we say that the truth is finally shining? > Shall we say "I was telling you so"? > Shall we say that I was explaining to the fanboys that everyones Vista out > and XP in? > Keep reading! > > http://crn.com/digital-home/201805832?cid=microsoftFeed > > By Steven Burke, CMP Channel > 12:00 AM EDT Mon. Sep. 17, 2007 > From the September 17, 2007 issue of CRN > > Digital home integrators say Microsoft's Windows Vista operating system has > been a big fat bust in the home market. > That bleak Vista view, however, has translated into healthy profits for home > integrators ripping Vista off systems and replacing the much-ballyhooed > operating system with Windows XP. > Microsoft, for its part, claims demand is strong for Vista and its momentum > is unprecedented. But digital home integrators at the D&H Distributing New > England Technology Show last month in Quincy, Mass., say they are seeing a > healthy rip-and-replace business that is winning them over new customers who > bought systems at retail. > Bunker Herbest, co-owner of Computer Essentials, a Bangor, Maine, system > builder, said out of the 40 systems a month that Computer Essentials is > building, only about five are Vista-based systems. > Herbest said his shop was ripping and replacing Vista with XP on as many as > 12 systems a month. Computer Essentials, in fact, has been advertising its > ability to offer Windows XP rather than Vista. > The Vista rip-and-replace service has "definitely been good for business," > Herbest said. "What's great is Vista is being pushed everywhere. Customers > can't find anybody to get rid of it so they come see people like us. We're > getting a couple of customers a day at least." > Herbest said consumers have been frustrated by the new Vista graphical user > interface and the pop-up security update requests. "People that used XP > can't find anything," he said. "It takes time to ramp up and learn Vista." > Douglas Lee, CFO and director of business development at BostonTech > Partners, a Canton, Mass., solution provider, said his shop is building > about 50 systems a month and every one of them is going out with Windows XP. > The only Vista-related business BostonTech is doing is ripping it off laptop > systems, Lee said. A lot of time and energy is being spent trying to replace > Vista, he said. "Microsoft should have provided the option of having XP on > laptops as opposed to Vista," he said. "There should have been an easier > downgrade method. Microsoft is force-feeding the consumer market like they > usually do. It's their way or the highway." > Lee said one problem with Vista is the 64-bit platform that the operating > system can power is not necessary for many customers. > Paul LaRochelle, president of PC Authority, a Manchester, N.H., solution > provider, said 99.9 percent of the systems from PC Authority are shipping > with Windows XP rather than Vista. Since the introduction of Vista, he said, > PC Authority has sold only a dozen copies of the operating system. "Just > because there is a new car or a bigger hard drive doesn't mean you have to > go buy it," he said. > Greg Abrams, vice president and director of technology at PC-Plus > Technologies, an Auburn, Mass., solution provider, said his business is > seeing Vista adoption from several major clients. He said about 40 percent > of the systems being shipped from PC-Plus are Vista-based, with 60 percent > XP-based. Furthermore, he said PC-Plus has been working with clients to rip > Vista off some notebook systems that lack XP drivers. As a result, he said, > PC-Plus is installing Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 for a number of clients. > Abrams praised Virtual PC 2007, which is free, for solving major application > compatibility issues so customers can run applications like Adobe Acrobat > 6.0. "This is more of a [workaround] solution for our customers than a > profit-driver," he said. "It took a lot of time to figure it out and learn > how to deploy it correctly." > LaRochelle said he feels it is better to wait for the first Windows Service > Pack to come out before pushing the operating system. Microsoft has said it > plans to launch the first service pack for Windows Vista during the first > quarter of 2008. > > >
Guest I eat vista Posted September 18, 2007 Posted September 18, 2007 Re: Vista = big fat bust in the home market. Mick the big ones cannot go out and say such things.. MS has them by the balls.. only small "free" companies could speak out.. But this is an indication of what is happening.. I have seen it everywhere. It is true... people just don't like vista.. sorry to disappoint you. "Mick Murphy" <MickMurphy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:46D0AF40-FFA0-40B6-8573-F21AE590CF4F@microsoft.com... > They are definitely one of the BIG, BIG OEM computer producers, aren't > they? > > Hahahahahahaha! > > "I eat vista" wrote: > >> Shall we say that the truth is finally shining? >> Shall we say "I was telling you so"? >> Shall we say that I was explaining to the fanboys that everyones Vista >> out >> and XP in? >> Keep reading! >> >> http://crn.com/digital-home/201805832?cid=microsoftFeed >> >> By Steven Burke, CMP Channel >> 12:00 AM EDT Mon. Sep. 17, 2007 >> From the September 17, 2007 issue of CRN >> >> Digital home integrators say Microsoft's Windows Vista operating system >> has >> been a big fat bust in the home market. >> That bleak Vista view, however, has translated into healthy profits for >> home >> integrators ripping Vista off systems and replacing the much-ballyhooed >> operating system with Windows XP. >> Microsoft, for its part, claims demand is strong for Vista and its >> momentum >> is unprecedented. But digital home integrators at the D&H Distributing >> New >> England Technology Show last month in Quincy, Mass., say they are seeing >> a >> healthy rip-and-replace business that is winning them over new customers >> who >> bought systems at retail. >> Bunker Herbest, co-owner of Computer Essentials, a Bangor, Maine, system >> builder, said out of the 40 systems a month that Computer Essentials is >> building, only about five are Vista-based systems. >> Herbest said his shop was ripping and replacing Vista with XP on as many >> as >> 12 systems a month. Computer Essentials, in fact, has been advertising >> its >> ability to offer Windows XP rather than Vista. >> The Vista rip-and-replace service has "definitely been good for >> business," >> Herbest said. "What's great is Vista is being pushed everywhere. >> Customers >> can't find anybody to get rid of it so they come see people like us. >> We're >> getting a couple of customers a day at least." >> Herbest said consumers have been frustrated by the new Vista graphical >> user >> interface and the pop-up security update requests. "People that used XP >> can't find anything," he said. "It takes time to ramp up and learn >> Vista." >> Douglas Lee, CFO and director of business development at BostonTech >> Partners, a Canton, Mass., solution provider, said his shop is building >> about 50 systems a month and every one of them is going out with Windows >> XP. >> The only Vista-related business BostonTech is doing is ripping it off >> laptop >> systems, Lee said. A lot of time and energy is being spent trying to >> replace >> Vista, he said. "Microsoft should have provided the option of having XP >> on >> laptops as opposed to Vista," he said. "There should have been an easier >> downgrade method. Microsoft is force-feeding the consumer market like >> they >> usually do. It's their way or the highway." >> Lee said one problem with Vista is the 64-bit platform that the operating >> system can power is not necessary for many customers. >> Paul LaRochelle, president of PC Authority, a Manchester, N.H., solution >> provider, said 99.9 percent of the systems from PC Authority are shipping >> with Windows XP rather than Vista. Since the introduction of Vista, he >> said, >> PC Authority has sold only a dozen copies of the operating system. "Just >> because there is a new car or a bigger hard drive doesn't mean you have >> to >> go buy it," he said. >> Greg Abrams, vice president and director of technology at PC-Plus >> Technologies, an Auburn, Mass., solution provider, said his business is >> seeing Vista adoption from several major clients. He said about 40 >> percent >> of the systems being shipped from PC-Plus are Vista-based, with 60 >> percent >> XP-based. Furthermore, he said PC-Plus has been working with clients to >> rip >> Vista off some notebook systems that lack XP drivers. As a result, he >> said, >> PC-Plus is installing Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 for a number of clients. >> Abrams praised Virtual PC 2007, which is free, for solving major >> application >> compatibility issues so customers can run applications like Adobe Acrobat >> 6.0. "This is more of a [workaround] solution for our customers than a >> profit-driver," he said. "It took a lot of time to figure it out and >> learn >> how to deploy it correctly." >> LaRochelle said he feels it is better to wait for the first Windows >> Service >> Pack to come out before pushing the operating system. Microsoft has said >> it >> plans to launch the first service pack for Windows Vista during the first >> quarter of 2008. >> >> >>
Guest Smokey Grindel Posted September 18, 2007 Posted September 18, 2007 Re: Vista = big fat bust in the home market. This is a crap artical its english sucks and it makes up facts. And don't tell me I'm a Vista lover, because I still don't run it on a single system, and we haven't deployed it in our company either. I was even on the beta for two years.. after that went to XP... but still this article is just BS.. you don't sell 99.9% only XP.. Even companies that give you a choice like Dell, which have XP or Vista choices do not sell all XP... heck their XP sales are only about 12% of their sales. and thats a bigger show for the nation then this other company... and Dell isn't paid off either, they where the first company to make MS mad by not stoping the sale of XP.... "I eat vista" <Ieatvista@gmail.com> wrote in message news:46ef7088$1@newsgate.x-privat.org... > Shall we say that the truth is finally shining? > Shall we say "I was telling you so"? > Shall we say that I was explaining to the fanboys that everyones Vista out > and XP in? > Keep reading! > > http://crn.com/digital-home/201805832?cid=microsoftFeed > > By Steven Burke, CMP Channel > 12:00 AM EDT Mon. Sep. 17, 2007 > From the September 17, 2007 issue of CRN > > Digital home integrators say Microsoft's Windows Vista operating system > has been a big fat bust in the home market. > That bleak Vista view, however, has translated into healthy profits for > home integrators ripping Vista off systems and replacing the > much-ballyhooed operating system with Windows XP. > Microsoft, for its part, claims demand is strong for Vista and its > momentum is unprecedented. But digital home integrators at the D&H > Distributing New England Technology Show last month in Quincy, Mass., say > they are seeing a healthy rip-and-replace business that is winning them > over new customers who bought systems at retail. > Bunker Herbest, co-owner of Computer Essentials, a Bangor, Maine, system > builder, said out of the 40 systems a month that Computer Essentials is > building, only about five are Vista-based systems. > Herbest said his shop was ripping and replacing Vista with XP on as many > as 12 systems a month. Computer Essentials, in fact, has been advertising > its ability to offer Windows XP rather than Vista. > The Vista rip-and-replace service has "definitely been good for business," > Herbest said. "What's great is Vista is being pushed everywhere. Customers > can't find anybody to get rid of it so they come see people like us. We're > getting a couple of customers a day at least." > Herbest said consumers have been frustrated by the new Vista graphical > user interface and the pop-up security update requests. "People that used > XP can't find anything," he said. "It takes time to ramp up and learn > Vista." > Douglas Lee, CFO and director of business development at BostonTech > Partners, a Canton, Mass., solution provider, said his shop is building > about 50 systems a month and every one of them is going out with Windows > XP. > The only Vista-related business BostonTech is doing is ripping it off > laptop systems, Lee said. A lot of time and energy is being spent trying > to replace Vista, he said. "Microsoft should have provided the option of > having XP on laptops as opposed to Vista," he said. "There should have > been an easier downgrade method. Microsoft is force-feeding the consumer > market like they usually do. It's their way or the highway." > Lee said one problem with Vista is the 64-bit platform that the operating > system can power is not necessary for many customers. > Paul LaRochelle, president of PC Authority, a Manchester, N.H., solution > provider, said 99.9 percent of the systems from PC Authority are shipping > with Windows XP rather than Vista. Since the introduction of Vista, he > said, PC Authority has sold only a dozen copies of the operating system. > "Just because there is a new car or a bigger hard drive doesn't mean you > have to go buy it," he said. > Greg Abrams, vice president and director of technology at PC-Plus > Technologies, an Auburn, Mass., solution provider, said his business is > seeing Vista adoption from several major clients. He said about 40 percent > of the systems being shipped from PC-Plus are Vista-based, with 60 percent > XP-based. Furthermore, he said PC-Plus has been working with clients to > rip Vista off some notebook systems that lack XP drivers. As a result, he > said, PC-Plus is installing Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 for a number of > clients. > Abrams praised Virtual PC 2007, which is free, for solving major > application compatibility issues so customers can run applications like > Adobe Acrobat 6.0. "This is more of a [workaround] solution for our > customers than a profit-driver," he said. "It took a lot of time to figure > it out and learn how to deploy it correctly." > LaRochelle said he feels it is better to wait for the first Windows > Service Pack to come out before pushing the operating system. Microsoft > has said it plans to launch the first service pack for Windows Vista > during the first quarter of 2008. >
Guest HeyBub Posted September 18, 2007 Posted September 18, 2007 Re: Vista = big fat bust in the home market. I eat vista wrote: > Shall we say that the truth is finally shining? > Shall we say "I was telling you so"? > Shall we say that I was explaining to the fanboys that everyones > Vista out and XP in? > Keep reading! Yeah, they said the same thing about fire, the wheel, and personal vibrators. There's always some Luddite in the woodwork.
Guest Frank Posted September 18, 2007 Posted September 18, 2007 Re: Vista = big fat bust in the home market. Alias wrote: > Frank wrote: > >> I eat vista wrote: >> >>> Shall we say that the truth is finally shining? >>> Shall we say "I was telling you so"? >>> Shall we say that I was explaining to the fanboys that everyones >>> Vista out and XP in? >>> Keep reading! >>> >>> http://crn.com/digital-home/201805832?cid=microsoftFeed >>> >>> By Steven Burke, CMP Channel >>> 12:00 AM EDT Mon. Sep. 17, 2007 >>> From the September 17, 2007 issue of CRN >>> >>> Digital home integrators say Microsoft's Windows Vista operating >>> system has been a big fat bust in the home market. >>> That bleak Vista view, however, has translated into healthy profits >>> for home integrators ripping Vista off systems and replacing the >>> much-ballyhooed operating system with Windows XP. >>> Microsoft, for its part, claims demand is strong for Vista and its >>> momentum is unprecedented. But digital home integrators at the D&H >>> Distributing New England Technology Show last month in Quincy, Mass., >>> say they are seeing a healthy rip-and-replace business that is >>> winning them over new customers who bought systems at retail. >>> Bunker Herbest, co-owner of Computer Essentials, a Bangor, Maine, >>> system builder, said out of the 40 systems a month that Computer >>> Essentials is building, only about five are Vista-based systems. >>> Herbest said his shop was ripping and replacing Vista with XP on as >>> many as 12 systems a month. Computer Essentials, in fact, has been >>> advertising its ability to offer Windows XP rather than Vista. >>> The Vista rip-and-replace service has "definitely been good for >>> business," Herbest said. "What's great is Vista is being pushed >>> everywhere. Customers can't find anybody to get rid of it so they >>> come see people like us. We're getting a couple of customers a day at >>> least." >>> Herbest said consumers have been frustrated by the new Vista >>> graphical user interface and the pop-up security update requests. >>> "People that used XP can't find anything," he said. "It takes time to >>> ramp up and learn Vista." >>> Douglas Lee, CFO and director of business development at BostonTech >>> Partners, a Canton, Mass., solution provider, said his shop is >>> building about 50 systems a month and every one of them is going out >>> with Windows XP. >>> The only Vista-related business BostonTech is doing is ripping it off >>> laptop systems, Lee said. A lot of time and energy is being spent >>> trying to replace Vista, he said. "Microsoft should have provided the >>> option of having XP on laptops as opposed to Vista," he said. "There >>> should have been an easier downgrade method. Microsoft is >>> force-feeding the consumer market like they usually do. It's their >>> way or the highway." >>> Lee said one problem with Vista is the 64-bit platform that the >>> operating system can power is not necessary for many customers. >>> Paul LaRochelle, president of PC Authority, a Manchester, N.H., >>> solution provider, said 99.9 percent of the systems from PC Authority >>> are shipping with Windows XP rather than Vista. Since the >>> introduction of Vista, he said, PC Authority has sold only a dozen >>> copies of the operating system. "Just because there is a new car or a >>> bigger hard drive doesn't mean you have to go buy it," he said. >>> Greg Abrams, vice president and director of technology at PC-Plus >>> Technologies, an Auburn, Mass., solution provider, said his business >>> is seeing Vista adoption from several major clients. He said about 40 >>> percent of the systems being shipped from PC-Plus are Vista-based, >>> with 60 percent XP-based. Furthermore, he said PC-Plus has been >>> working with clients to rip Vista off some notebook systems that lack >>> XP drivers. As a result, he said, PC-Plus is installing Microsoft >>> Virtual PC 2007 for a number of clients. >>> Abrams praised Virtual PC 2007, which is free, for solving major >>> application compatibility issues so customers can run applications >>> like Adobe Acrobat 6.0. "This is more of a [workaround] solution for >>> our customers than a profit-driver," he said. "It took a lot of time >>> to figure it out and learn how to deploy it correctly." >>> LaRochelle said he feels it is better to wait for the first Windows >>> Service Pack to come out before pushing the operating system. >>> Microsoft has said it plans to launch the first service pack for >>> Windows Vista during the first quarter of 2008. >>> >> Oh please capin' crunch, stop making a fool out of yourself ok? >> Did you even bother to read that stupid article? >> 40-50 installs a months? And they’re proly exaggerating those numbers. >> The dinosaurs will be back before those clowns could even make a dent >> in the market. >> Come on...get serious, ok? >> Frank >> > > Yep, MS depends on having customers like you, Frank, who don't think and > just plop their money down. Course, you lie and can't afford Vista which > is why you are using T-Bird to post instead of Windows Mail. hehehe...you're proving just how fukkin dumb you actually are! Try again you stupid POS cause I'm not using T-Bird. You fukkin lying linux loser POS! Frank You could > prove me wrong by using Windows Mail but you won't. You'll just reply to > this post with your usual lies, insults and bluster. Hahaha...you just proved yourself wrong you ignorant lying as*hole...lol! Idiot! Frank
Guest Alias Posted September 18, 2007 Posted September 18, 2007 Re: Vista = big fat bust in the home market. Frank wrote: > Alias wrote: >> Frank wrote: >> >>> I eat vista wrote: >>> >>>> Shall we say that the truth is finally shining? >>>> Shall we say "I was telling you so"? >>>> Shall we say that I was explaining to the fanboys that everyones >>>> Vista out and XP in? >>>> Keep reading! >>>> >>>> http://crn.com/digital-home/201805832?cid=microsoftFeed >>>> >>>> By Steven Burke, CMP Channel >>>> 12:00 AM EDT Mon. Sep. 17, 2007 >>>> From the September 17, 2007 issue of CRN >>>> >>>> Digital home integrators say Microsoft's Windows Vista operating >>>> system has been a big fat bust in the home market. >>>> That bleak Vista view, however, has translated into healthy profits >>>> for home integrators ripping Vista off systems and replacing the >>>> much-ballyhooed operating system with Windows XP. >>>> Microsoft, for its part, claims demand is strong for Vista and its >>>> momentum is unprecedented. But digital home integrators at the D&H >>>> Distributing New England Technology Show last month in Quincy, >>>> Mass., say they are seeing a healthy rip-and-replace business that >>>> is winning them over new customers who bought systems at retail. >>>> Bunker Herbest, co-owner of Computer Essentials, a Bangor, Maine, >>>> system builder, said out of the 40 systems a month that Computer >>>> Essentials is building, only about five are Vista-based systems. >>>> Herbest said his shop was ripping and replacing Vista with XP on as >>>> many as 12 systems a month. Computer Essentials, in fact, has been >>>> advertising its ability to offer Windows XP rather than Vista. >>>> The Vista rip-and-replace service has "definitely been good for >>>> business," Herbest said. "What's great is Vista is being pushed >>>> everywhere. Customers can't find anybody to get rid of it so they >>>> come see people like us. We're getting a couple of customers a day >>>> at least." >>>> Herbest said consumers have been frustrated by the new Vista >>>> graphical user interface and the pop-up security update requests. >>>> "People that used XP can't find anything," he said. "It takes time >>>> to ramp up and learn Vista." >>>> Douglas Lee, CFO and director of business development at BostonTech >>>> Partners, a Canton, Mass., solution provider, said his shop is >>>> building about 50 systems a month and every one of them is going out >>>> with Windows XP. >>>> The only Vista-related business BostonTech is doing is ripping it >>>> off laptop systems, Lee said. A lot of time and energy is being >>>> spent trying to replace Vista, he said. "Microsoft should have >>>> provided the option of having XP on laptops as opposed to Vista," he >>>> said. "There should have been an easier downgrade method. Microsoft >>>> is force-feeding the consumer market like they usually do. It's >>>> their way or the highway." >>>> Lee said one problem with Vista is the 64-bit platform that the >>>> operating system can power is not necessary for many customers. >>>> Paul LaRochelle, president of PC Authority, a Manchester, N.H., >>>> solution provider, said 99.9 percent of the systems from PC >>>> Authority are shipping with Windows XP rather than Vista. Since the >>>> introduction of Vista, he said, PC Authority has sold only a dozen >>>> copies of the operating system. "Just because there is a new car or >>>> a bigger hard drive doesn't mean you have to go buy it," he said. >>>> Greg Abrams, vice president and director of technology at PC-Plus >>>> Technologies, an Auburn, Mass., solution provider, said his business >>>> is seeing Vista adoption from several major clients. He said about >>>> 40 percent of the systems being shipped from PC-Plus are >>>> Vista-based, with 60 percent XP-based. Furthermore, he said PC-Plus >>>> has been working with clients to rip Vista off some notebook systems >>>> that lack XP drivers. As a result, he said, PC-Plus is installing >>>> Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 for a number of clients. >>>> Abrams praised Virtual PC 2007, which is free, for solving major >>>> application compatibility issues so customers can run applications >>>> like Adobe Acrobat 6.0. "This is more of a [workaround] solution for >>>> our customers than a profit-driver," he said. "It took a lot of time >>>> to figure it out and learn how to deploy it correctly." >>>> LaRochelle said he feels it is better to wait for the first Windows >>>> Service Pack to come out before pushing the operating system. >>>> Microsoft has said it plans to launch the first service pack for >>>> Windows Vista during the first quarter of 2008. >>>> >>> Oh please capin' crunch, stop making a fool out of yourself ok? >>> Did you even bother to read that stupid article? >>> 40-50 installs a months? And they’re proly exaggerating those numbers. >>> The dinosaurs will be back before those clowns could even make a dent >>> in the market. >>> Come on...get serious, ok? >>> Frank >>> >> >> Yep, MS depends on having customers like you, Frank, who don't think >> and just plop their money down. Course, you lie and can't afford Vista >> which is why you are using T-Bird to post instead of Windows Mail. > > hehehe...you're proving just how fukkin dumb you actually are! > Try again you stupid POS cause I'm not using T-Bird. > You fukkin lying linux loser POS! > Frank > > You could >> prove me wrong by using Windows Mail but you won't. You'll just reply >> to this post with your usual lies, insults and bluster. > > Hahaha...you just proved yourself wrong you ignorant lying as*hole...lol! > Idiot! > Frank > > I didn't notice that you're using NT 6.0. The question is why you're using an Open Source application, be it T-Bird, Mozilla Mail or Seamonkey when you have thrown so many insults at Open Source. Why aren't you using Vista's Windows Mail? -- Alias To email me, remove shoes
Guest Robert Moir Posted September 18, 2007 Posted September 18, 2007 Re: Vista = big fat bust in the home market. "Smokey Grindel" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message news:OJqYN3e%23HHA.1484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > This is a crap artical its english sucks And you apparently have no right to judge others on this issue.
Guest Frank Posted September 18, 2007 Posted September 18, 2007 Re: Vista = big fat bust in the home market. Alias wrote: >> > > I didn't notice that you're using NT 6.0. The question is why you're > using an Open Source application, be it T-Bird, Mozilla Mail or > Seamonkey when you have thrown so many insults at Open Source. Why > aren't you using Vista's Windows Mail? > Cause I don't want to. I guess that blows your theory about me all to hell, huh? Too bad. Live with it. Frank BTW, linux sux!
Guest Henry Bemis Posted September 18, 2007 Posted September 18, 2007 Re: Vista = big fat bust in the home market. Just wait till Vista ME comes out. They'll have fixed every little problem by then. Bad thing is...........a million more problems will show up.
Guest NoConsequence Posted September 18, 2007 Posted September 18, 2007 Re: Vista = big fat bust in the home market. On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 09:28:46 +0300, "I eat vista" <Ieatvista@gmail.com> wrote: >Shall we say that the truth is finally shining? >Shall we say "I was telling you so"? >Shall we say that I was explaining to the fanboys that everyones Vista out >and XP in? >Keep reading! > >http://crn.com/digital-home/201805832?cid=microsoftFeed > >By Steven Burke, CMP Channel >12:00 AM EDT Mon. Sep. 17, 2007 >From the September 17, 2007 issue of CRN > >Digital home integrators say Microsoft's Windows Vista operating system has >been a big fat bust in the home market. >That bleak Vista view, however, has translated into healthy profits for home >integrators ripping Vista off systems and replacing the much-ballyhooed >operating system with Windows XP. >Microsoft, for its part, claims demand is strong for Vista and its momentum >is unprecedented. But digital home integrators at the D&H Distributing New >England Technology Show last month in Quincy, Mass., say they are seeing a >healthy rip-and-replace business that is winning them over new customers who >bought systems at retail. >Bunker Herbest, co-owner of Computer Essentials, a Bangor, Maine, system >builder, said out of the 40 systems a month that Computer Essentials is >building, only about five are Vista-based systems. >Herbest said his shop was ripping and replacing Vista with XP on as many as >12 systems a month. Computer Essentials, in fact, has been advertising its >ability to offer Windows XP rather than Vista. >The Vista rip-and-replace service has "definitely been good for business," >Herbest said. "What's great is Vista is being pushed everywhere. Customers >can't find anybody to get rid of it so they come see people like us. We're >getting a couple of customers a day at least." >Herbest said consumers have been frustrated by the new Vista graphical user >interface and the pop-up security update requests. "People that used XP >can't find anything," he said. "It takes time to ramp up and learn Vista." >Douglas Lee, CFO and director of business development at BostonTech >Partners, a Canton, Mass., solution provider, said his shop is building >about 50 systems a month and every one of them is going out with Windows XP. >The only Vista-related business BostonTech is doing is ripping it off laptop >systems, Lee said. A lot of time and energy is being spent trying to replace >Vista, he said. "Microsoft should have provided the option of having XP on >laptops as opposed to Vista," he said. "There should have been an easier >downgrade method. Microsoft is force-feeding the consumer market like they >usually do. It's their way or the highway." >Lee said one problem with Vista is the 64-bit platform that the operating >system can power is not necessary for many customers. >Paul LaRochelle, president of PC Authority, a Manchester, N.H., solution >provider, said 99.9 percent of the systems from PC Authority are shipping >with Windows XP rather than Vista. Since the introduction of Vista, he said, >PC Authority has sold only a dozen copies of the operating system. "Just >because there is a new car or a bigger hard drive doesn't mean you have to >go buy it," he said. >Greg Abrams, vice president and director of technology at PC-Plus >Technologies, an Auburn, Mass., solution provider, said his business is >seeing Vista adoption from several major clients. He said about 40 percent >of the systems being shipped from PC-Plus are Vista-based, with 60 percent >XP-based. Furthermore, he said PC-Plus has been working with clients to rip >Vista off some notebook systems that lack XP drivers. As a result, he said, >PC-Plus is installing Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 for a number of clients. >Abrams praised Virtual PC 2007, which is free, for solving major application >compatibility issues so customers can run applications like Adobe Acrobat >6.0. "This is more of a [workaround] solution for our customers than a >profit-driver," he said. "It took a lot of time to figure it out and learn >how to deploy it correctly." >LaRochelle said he feels it is better to wait for the first Windows Service >Pack to come out before pushing the operating system. Microsoft has said it >plans to launch the first service pack for Windows Vista during the first >quarter of 2008. > Why are you posting this HERE? Did you notice the title of this group is for XP, NOT VISTA?
Guest Alias Posted September 18, 2007 Posted September 18, 2007 Re: Vista = big fat bust in the home market. Frank wrote: > Alias wrote: > > >>> >> >> I didn't notice that you're using NT 6.0. The question is why you're >> using an Open Source application, be it T-Bird, Mozilla Mail or >> Seamonkey when you have thrown so many insults at Open Source. Why >> aren't you using Vista's Windows Mail? >> > > > Cause I don't want to. > I guess that blows your theory about me all to hell, huh? > Too bad. > Live with it. > Frank > > BTW, linux sux! Oh, so you only refer to Open Source as "Open Sores" when you don't use it. Now I understand. -- Alias To email me, remove shoes
Guest Frank Posted September 19, 2007 Posted September 19, 2007 Re: Vista = big fat bust in the home market. Alias wrote: > Frank wrote: > >> Alias wrote: >> >> >>>> >>> >>> I didn't notice that you're using NT 6.0. The question is why you're >>> using an Open Source application, be it T-Bird, Mozilla Mail or >>> Seamonkey when you have thrown so many insults at Open Source. Why >>> aren't you using Vista's Windows Mail? >>> >> >> >> Cause I don't want to. >> I guess that blows your theory about me all to hell, huh? >> Too bad. >> Live with it. >> Frank >> >> BTW, linux sux! > > > Oh, so you only refer to Open Source as "Open Sores" when you don't use > it. Now I understand. > You're really reaching now aren't you? Linux sux (in my opinion) and I don't give a sh*t about your fanatical devotion to anything open sores. That is your problem, not mine. It's only software you moron. I use what I want, when and how I want. If you have a problem with that...too bad! Frank
Guest Mama Putzke Posted September 19, 2007 Posted September 19, 2007 Re: Vista = big fat bust in the home market. "I eat vista" <Ieatvista@gmail.com> wrote in message news:46efa6d4@newsgate.x-privat.org... > Mick the big ones cannot go out and say such things.. MS has them by the > balls.. > Too bad you don't have any balls. The guy that I was speaking with says you only have peas in their place. Oh yea, he said your member is about 3" shorter than a 3 1/2 inch floppy disk! Just FYI. > only small "free" companies could speak out.. But this is an indication of > what is happening.. I have seen it everywhere. It is true... > > people just don't like vista.. sorry to disappoint you. > > > "Mick Murphy" <MickMurphy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:46D0AF40-FFA0-40B6-8573-F21AE590CF4F@microsoft.com... >> They are definitely one of the BIG, BIG OEM computer producers, aren't >> they? >> >> Hahahahahahaha! >> >> "I eat vista" wrote: >> >>> Shall we say that the truth is finally shining? >>> Shall we say "I was telling you so"? >>> Shall we say that I was explaining to the fanboys that everyones Vista >>> out >>> and XP in? >>> Keep reading! >>> >>> http://crn.com/digital-home/201805832?cid=microsoftFeed >>> >>> By Steven Burke, CMP Channel >>> 12:00 AM EDT Mon. Sep. 17, 2007 >>> From the September 17, 2007 issue of CRN >>> >>> Digital home integrators say Microsoft's Windows Vista operating system >>> has >>> been a big fat bust in the home market. >>> That bleak Vista view, however, has translated into healthy profits for >>> home >>> integrators ripping Vista off systems and replacing the much-ballyhooed >>> operating system with Windows XP. >>> Microsoft, for its part, claims demand is strong for Vista and its >>> momentum >>> is unprecedented. But digital home integrators at the D&H Distributing >>> New >>> England Technology Show last month in Quincy, Mass., say they are seeing >>> a >>> healthy rip-and-replace business that is winning them over new customers >>> who >>> bought systems at retail. >>> Bunker Herbest, co-owner of Computer Essentials, a Bangor, Maine, system >>> builder, said out of the 40 systems a month that Computer Essentials is >>> building, only about five are Vista-based systems. >>> Herbest said his shop was ripping and replacing Vista with XP on as many >>> as >>> 12 systems a month. Computer Essentials, in fact, has been advertising >>> its >>> ability to offer Windows XP rather than Vista. >>> The Vista rip-and-replace service has "definitely been good for >>> business," >>> Herbest said. "What's great is Vista is being pushed everywhere. >>> Customers >>> can't find anybody to get rid of it so they come see people like us. >>> We're >>> getting a couple of customers a day at least." >>> Herbest said consumers have been frustrated by the new Vista graphical >>> user >>> interface and the pop-up security update requests. "People that used XP >>> can't find anything," he said. "It takes time to ramp up and learn >>> Vista." >>> Douglas Lee, CFO and director of business development at BostonTech >>> Partners, a Canton, Mass., solution provider, said his shop is building >>> about 50 systems a month and every one of them is going out with Windows >>> XP. >>> The only Vista-related business BostonTech is doing is ripping it off >>> laptop >>> systems, Lee said. A lot of time and energy is being spent trying to >>> replace >>> Vista, he said. "Microsoft should have provided the option of having XP >>> on >>> laptops as opposed to Vista," he said. "There should have been an easier >>> downgrade method. Microsoft is force-feeding the consumer market like >>> they >>> usually do. It's their way or the highway." >>> Lee said one problem with Vista is the 64-bit platform that the >>> operating >>> system can power is not necessary for many customers. >>> Paul LaRochelle, president of PC Authority, a Manchester, N.H., solution >>> provider, said 99.9 percent of the systems from PC Authority are >>> shipping >>> with Windows XP rather than Vista. Since the introduction of Vista, he >>> said, >>> PC Authority has sold only a dozen copies of the operating system. "Just >>> because there is a new car or a bigger hard drive doesn't mean you have >>> to >>> go buy it," he said. >>> Greg Abrams, vice president and director of technology at PC-Plus >>> Technologies, an Auburn, Mass., solution provider, said his business is >>> seeing Vista adoption from several major clients. He said about 40 >>> percent >>> of the systems being shipped from PC-Plus are Vista-based, with 60 >>> percent >>> XP-based. Furthermore, he said PC-Plus has been working with clients to >>> rip >>> Vista off some notebook systems that lack XP drivers. As a result, he >>> said, >>> PC-Plus is installing Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 for a number of clients. >>> Abrams praised Virtual PC 2007, which is free, for solving major >>> application >>> compatibility issues so customers can run applications like Adobe >>> Acrobat >>> 6.0. "This is more of a [workaround] solution for our customers than a >>> profit-driver," he said. "It took a lot of time to figure it out and >>> learn >>> how to deploy it correctly." >>> LaRochelle said he feels it is better to wait for the first Windows >>> Service >>> Pack to come out before pushing the operating system. Microsoft has said >>> it >>> plans to launch the first service pack for Windows Vista during the >>> first >>> quarter of 2008. >>> >>> >>> > >
Guest D. Solomon Posted September 19, 2007 Posted September 19, 2007 Re: Vista = big fat bust in the home market. I believe you are known throughout cyberspace as a troll You have been posted on the official list Good day "Mama Putzke" <mama@putzke.com> wrote in message news:OHeblSl%23HHA.4200@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > > "I eat vista" <Ieatvista@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:46efa6d4@newsgate.x-privat.org... >> Mick the big ones cannot go out and say such things.. MS has them by the >> balls.. >> > Too bad you don't have any balls. The guy that I was speaking with says > you only have peas in their place. Oh yea, he said your member is about > 3" shorter than a 3 1/2 inch floppy disk! > > Just FYI. > > >> only small "free" companies could speak out.. But this is an indication >> of what is happening.. I have seen it everywhere. It is true... >> >> people just don't like vista.. sorry to disappoint you. >> >> >> "Mick Murphy" <MickMurphy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:46D0AF40-FFA0-40B6-8573-F21AE590CF4F@microsoft.com... >>> They are definitely one of the BIG, BIG OEM computer producers, aren't >>> they? >>> >>> Hahahahahahaha! >>> >>> "I eat vista" wrote: >>> >>>> Shall we say that the truth is finally shining? >>>> Shall we say "I was telling you so"? >>>> Shall we say that I was explaining to the fanboys that everyones Vista >>>> out >>>> and XP in? >>>> Keep reading! >>>> >>>> http://crn.com/digital-home/201805832?cid=microsoftFeed >>>> >>>> By Steven Burke, CMP Channel >>>> 12:00 AM EDT Mon. Sep. 17, 2007 >>>> From the September 17, 2007 issue of CRN >>>> >>>> Digital home integrators say Microsoft's Windows Vista operating system >>>> has >>>> been a big fat bust in the home market. >>>> That bleak Vista view, however, has translated into healthy profits for >>>> home >>>> integrators ripping Vista off systems and replacing the much-ballyhooed >>>> operating system with Windows XP. >>>> Microsoft, for its part, claims demand is strong for Vista and its >>>> momentum >>>> is unprecedented. But digital home integrators at the D&H Distributing >>>> New >>>> England Technology Show last month in Quincy, Mass., say they are >>>> seeing a >>>> healthy rip-and-replace business that is winning them over new >>>> customers who >>>> bought systems at retail. >>>> Bunker Herbest, co-owner of Computer Essentials, a Bangor, Maine, >>>> system >>>> builder, said out of the 40 systems a month that Computer Essentials is >>>> building, only about five are Vista-based systems. >>>> Herbest said his shop was ripping and replacing Vista with XP on as >>>> many as >>>> 12 systems a month. Computer Essentials, in fact, has been advertising >>>> its >>>> ability to offer Windows XP rather than Vista. >>>> The Vista rip-and-replace service has "definitely been good for >>>> business," >>>> Herbest said. "What's great is Vista is being pushed everywhere. >>>> Customers >>>> can't find anybody to get rid of it so they come see people like us. >>>> We're >>>> getting a couple of customers a day at least." >>>> Herbest said consumers have been frustrated by the new Vista graphical >>>> user >>>> interface and the pop-up security update requests. "People that used XP >>>> can't find anything," he said. "It takes time to ramp up and learn >>>> Vista." >>>> Douglas Lee, CFO and director of business development at BostonTech >>>> Partners, a Canton, Mass., solution provider, said his shop is building >>>> about 50 systems a month and every one of them is going out with >>>> Windows XP. >>>> The only Vista-related business BostonTech is doing is ripping it off >>>> laptop >>>> systems, Lee said. A lot of time and energy is being spent trying to >>>> replace >>>> Vista, he said. "Microsoft should have provided the option of having XP >>>> on >>>> laptops as opposed to Vista," he said. "There should have been an >>>> easier >>>> downgrade method. Microsoft is force-feeding the consumer market like >>>> they >>>> usually do. It's their way or the highway." >>>> Lee said one problem with Vista is the 64-bit platform that the >>>> operating >>>> system can power is not necessary for many customers. >>>> Paul LaRochelle, president of PC Authority, a Manchester, N.H., >>>> solution >>>> provider, said 99.9 percent of the systems from PC Authority are >>>> shipping >>>> with Windows XP rather than Vista. Since the introduction of Vista, he >>>> said, >>>> PC Authority has sold only a dozen copies of the operating system. >>>> "Just >>>> because there is a new car or a bigger hard drive doesn't mean you have >>>> to >>>> go buy it," he said. >>>> Greg Abrams, vice president and director of technology at PC-Plus >>>> Technologies, an Auburn, Mass., solution provider, said his business is >>>> seeing Vista adoption from several major clients. He said about 40 >>>> percent >>>> of the systems being shipped from PC-Plus are Vista-based, with 60 >>>> percent >>>> XP-based. Furthermore, he said PC-Plus has been working with clients to >>>> rip >>>> Vista off some notebook systems that lack XP drivers. As a result, he >>>> said, >>>> PC-Plus is installing Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 for a number of >>>> clients. >>>> Abrams praised Virtual PC 2007, which is free, for solving major >>>> application >>>> compatibility issues so customers can run applications like Adobe >>>> Acrobat >>>> 6.0. "This is more of a [workaround] solution for our customers than a >>>> profit-driver," he said. "It took a lot of time to figure it out and >>>> learn >>>> how to deploy it correctly." >>>> LaRochelle said he feels it is better to wait for the first Windows >>>> Service >>>> Pack to come out before pushing the operating system. Microsoft has >>>> said it >>>> plans to launch the first service pack for Windows Vista during the >>>> first >>>> quarter of 2008. >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >> > >
Guest Paul Knudsen Posted September 22, 2007 Posted September 22, 2007 Re: Vista = big fat bust in the home market. On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 09:28:46 +0300, "I eat vista" <Ieatvista@gmail.com> wrote: >Shall we say that the truth is finally shining? >Shall we say "I was telling you so"? >Shall we say that I was explaining to the fanboys that everyones Vista out >and XP in? Well, soon there won't be XP drivers for new hardware. They what will you do? -- Top 10 Conservative Idiots: http://journals.democraticunderground.com/top10
Guest Alias Posted September 22, 2007 Posted September 22, 2007 Re: Vista = big fat bust in the home market. Paul Knudsen wrote: > On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 09:28:46 +0300, "I eat vista" > <Ieatvista@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Shall we say that the truth is finally shining? >> Shall we say "I was telling you so"? >> Shall we say that I was explaining to the fanboys that everyones Vista out >> and XP in? > > Well, soon there won't be XP drivers for new hardware. They what will > you do? > There are still drivers for Win 2000. Oops. In addition, one can use a real operating system like Ubuntu, which will have drivers no problemo. -- Alias To email me, remove shoes
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