Guest dfrog Posted September 20, 2007 Posted September 20, 2007 A VERY newbie with ISO images, and so far failing to get my head around it all. Granddaughter plays EA Sims2 Pets on my computer (WINXP Home) and has to use the DVD each time to run it. So, thinking I would simplify & maybe speed things up a bit, (and learn something about Virtual Drives / ISO images at the same time) I created a Virtual CDRom using Daemon Tools, created what I thought was an ISO image using Nero6, but it came out as a .nrg Nero Disc Image which did not work having mounted it. So I then used MagicISO to convert this Nero .nrg to an ISO image and mounted it in Daemon Tools. All seemed Ok at this stage, but when I try to run the program I get >> "Cannot Locate CD-ROM - Please insert the correct CD-ROM, select OK and restart application." Having failed there, I installed Magic Disc and mounted the image there, but get the same result. I'm sure that I'm probably missing something quite simple, but I've read till my head spins and still can't manage to get this to work. I'd appreciate some guidance please Dfrog
Guest AJR Posted September 20, 2007 Posted September 20, 2007 Re: ISO image help needed Appears you are working "backwards" - ISO images do not boot - ISO images must be "converted" to bootable disks. If the virtual drive "handles" DVDs - copy the DVD to the HD and load into the virtual drive. "dfrog" <dfrog@lineone1.net> wrote in message news:5lg06oF829nnU1@mid.individual.net... >A VERY newbie with ISO images, and so far failing to get my head around it >all. > > > > Granddaughter plays EA Sims2 Pets on my computer (WINXP Home) and has to > use the DVD each time to run it. > > > > So, thinking I would simplify & maybe speed things up a bit, (and learn > something about Virtual Drives / ISO images at the same time) I created a > Virtual CDRom using Daemon Tools, created what I thought was an ISO image > using Nero6, but it came out as a .nrg Nero Disc Image which did not work > having mounted it. So I then used MagicISO to convert this Nero .nrg to an > ISO image and mounted it in Daemon Tools. All seemed Ok at this stage, but > when I try to run the program I get >> "Cannot Locate CD-ROM - Please > insert the correct CD-ROM, select OK and restart application." > > > > Having failed there, I installed Magic Disc and mounted the image there, > but get the same result. > > > > I'm sure that I'm probably missing something quite simple, but I've read > till my head spins and still can't manage to get this to work. > > > > I'd appreciate some guidance please > > > > Dfrog > >
Guest John McGaw Posted September 20, 2007 Posted September 20, 2007 Re: ISO image help needed dfrog wrote: > A VERY newbie with ISO images, and so far failing to get my head around it > all. > > > > Granddaughter plays EA Sims2 Pets on my computer (WINXP Home) and has to use > the DVD each time to run it. > > > > So, thinking I would simplify & maybe speed things up a bit, (and learn > something about Virtual Drives / ISO images at the same time) I created a > Virtual CDRom using Daemon Tools, created what I thought was an ISO image > using Nero6, but it came out as a .nrg Nero Disc Image which did not work > having mounted it. So I then used MagicISO to convert this Nero .nrg to an > ISO image and mounted it in Daemon Tools. All seemed Ok at this stage, but > when I try to run the program I get >> "Cannot Locate CD-ROM - Please insert > the correct CD-ROM, select OK and restart application." > > > > Having failed there, I installed Magic Disc and mounted the image there, but > get the same result. > > > > I'm sure that I'm probably missing something quite simple, but I've read > till my head spins and still can't manage to get this to work. > > > > I'd appreciate some guidance please > > > > Dfrog > > I take it that you mean that the DVD must be in the drive to run the game? That is the most common thing I've seen with games. Any publisher who goes to the trouble to require the disc to start the game is likely bright enough to realize that virtual drives exist and to test for them and to reject any image mounted on one as a key to start their software since not doing so would allow an infinite number of installs and simultaneous users using a single physical disc. I've even seen a game which would not run if virtual disc software was even installed on the computer whether or not it was being used.
Guest David B. Posted September 20, 2007 Posted September 20, 2007 Re: ISO image help needed Most original game CD's have some sort of protection on them, neither a copy of the CD nor an image of the CD caries over this protection, thus the game won't run. The workaround I use for most of my games is to use a no cd patch, which replaces the games executable with a patched version that does not require the original CD. -- ---- Crosspost, do not multipost http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 How to Post http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm _________________________________________________________________________________ "dfrog" <dfrog@lineone1.net> wrote in message news:5lg06oF829nnU1@mid.individual.net... >A VERY newbie with ISO images, and so far failing to get my head around it >all. > > > > Granddaughter plays EA Sims2 Pets on my computer (WINXP Home) and has to > use the DVD each time to run it. > > > > So, thinking I would simplify & maybe speed things up a bit, (and learn > something about Virtual Drives / ISO images at the same time) I created a > Virtual CDRom using Daemon Tools, created what I thought was an ISO image > using Nero6, but it came out as a .nrg Nero Disc Image which did not work > having mounted it. So I then used MagicISO to convert this Nero .nrg to an > ISO image and mounted it in Daemon Tools. All seemed Ok at this stage, but > when I try to run the program I get >> "Cannot Locate CD-ROM - Please > insert the correct CD-ROM, select OK and restart application." > > > > Having failed there, I installed Magic Disc and mounted the image there, > but get the same result. > > > > I'm sure that I'm probably missing something quite simple, but I've read > till my head spins and still can't manage to get this to work. > > > > I'd appreciate some guidance please > > > > Dfrog > >
Guest WindowsXPert Posted September 20, 2007 Posted September 20, 2007 RE: ISO image help needed I wouldn't assume there's anything wrong with your ISO image... yet. Compiling them is pretty straightforward, assuming it's contiguous data, indexed according to the standard. I think you're having a source path problem. Somewhere in the program settings, an .INI file, a .DAT file written at the time of installation or in the Windows registry are "source path" statements. They're basically pointers telling the program where to fetch different pieces of code or information. When you mounted the virtual CD drive, it was assigned a letter (like E or F) but the CD drive letter the program is looking for is "D." These are just examples, your actual drive letters may vary. There are two things you can try: (1) Try to modify the setting. Go into the application's SETTINGS menu and see if you can't manually tell it to look elsewhere. If that's not possible, try to locate where the app gets it's information from. Is it an INI file or ?? If you don't see anything lingering in either the program's resident installation directory or C:\Windows in the form of a flat text file, there's always the registry --BUT ONLY IF YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING! (And, even if you do, it only takes two seconds to export the entire HKLM branch to another location as a backup...DO IT!) (2) Change your CD-ROM's drive letter to something else, then change the letter assigned to the virtual drive over to the [old] drive letter used by the CD-ROM. - Right-click "My Computer" - Select Manage - Under 'Storage', click on Disk Management - Click in the square box to the left of the long rectangular area representing your CD-ROM to select that device - Now right-click the same square The first option on the context menu should be 'CHANGE DRIVE LETTER AND PATHS' Select that. The resulting dialog will have three buttons. Click 'Change.' From the drop-down list, select something way towards the end of the alphabet. [OK] and [X] your way back to the desktop. The utility mounting the virtual CD-ROM should have a similar process for drive letter assignment. Hook that process and assign the virtual CD-ROM the (now-available) drive letter formerly assigned to the actual CD-ROM. NOTE: Windows is going to warn you --and so am I-- that changing drive letters around has its risks. I don't know what other programs you run which rely on the CD-ROM's static addressing, but they're all going to give you the same message you're getting now: "UNABLE TO LOCATE DEVICE" If this "fixes" the problem, what you really need to do is mount the virtual drive with the CD image and re-install from there. That way, the installation and data source paths are all copacetic with where you want to run it from and you won't screw up any other [make that: EVERY OTHER] instance of reference to your CD-ROM. Hope this helps... P.S. Remember to go back and un-do the re-assignments if you experiment with suggestion #2 above. As an exercise, the above will either prove/disprove that your ISO image is part of the problem. > when I try to run the program I get >> "Cannot Locate CD-ROM - Please insert > the correct CD-ROM, select OK and restart application." > > Having failed there, I installed Magic Disc and mounted the image there, but > get the same result. > I'm sure that I'm probably missing something quite simple, but I've read > till my head spins and still can't manage to get this to work. >
Guest dfrog Posted September 20, 2007 Posted September 20, 2007 Re: ISO image help needed Thank you to you 4 for your responses. AJR - I tried your idea, copied the DVD to HD but was unable to mount this copy to the Virtual CD-ROM. The Virtual Drive was looking for these a.. b5t (BlindWrite images) b.. b6t (BlindWrite images) c.. bwt (BlindRead images) d.. ccd (CloneCD images) e.. cdi (DiscJuggler images) f.. cue (Cue sheets) g.. iso (Standard ISO images) h.. mds (Media Descriptor Files) i.. nrg (Nero images) j.. pdi (Instant CD/DVD images) k.. isz (Compressed ISO images) and the copy of the DVD was none of them. John McGraw - a good point that I can understand (although I am not trying to do anything "unreasonable") maybe my understanding (?) of the concept of using Virtual Drives is too immature. David B - I've already taken a brief look at "no cd patch" (unknown to me) and will research further. WindowsXpert - All that is going to take me some 'coming to terms with' but I intend to follow your guidance, it will take me some time tho'. I am very grateful dfrog "David B." <brooks.dj@nomail.com> wrote in message news:OFnYib8%23HHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > Most original game CD's have some sort of protection on them, neither a > copy of the CD nor an image of the CD caries over this protection, thus > the game won't run. The workaround I use for most of my games is to use a > no cd patch, which replaces the games executable with a patched version > that does not require the original CD. > > -- > > ---- > Crosspost, do not multipost http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm > How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 > How to Post http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm > _________________________________________________________________________________ > > > "dfrog" <dfrog@lineone1.net> wrote in message > news:5lg06oF829nnU1@mid.individual.net... >>A VERY newbie with ISO images, and so far failing to get my head around it >>all. >> >> >> >> Granddaughter plays EA Sims2 Pets on my computer (WINXP Home) and has to >> use the DVD each time to run it. >> >> >> >> So, thinking I would simplify & maybe speed things up a bit, (and learn >> something about Virtual Drives / ISO images at the same time) I created a >> Virtual CDRom using Daemon Tools, created what I thought was an ISO image >> using Nero6, but it came out as a .nrg Nero Disc Image which did not work >> having mounted it. So I then used MagicISO to convert this Nero .nrg to >> an ISO image and mounted it in Daemon Tools. All seemed Ok at this stage, >> but when I try to run the program I get >> "Cannot Locate CD-ROM - Please >> insert the correct CD-ROM, select OK and restart application." >> >> >> >> Having failed there, I installed Magic Disc and mounted the image there, >> but get the same result. >> >> >> >> I'm sure that I'm probably missing something quite simple, but I've read >> till my head spins and still can't manage to get this to work. >> >> >> >> I'd appreciate some guidance please >> >> >> >> Dfrog >> >> >
Guest WindowsXPert Posted September 21, 2007 Posted September 21, 2007 RE: ISO image help needed I wouldn't assume your ISO image is to blame... yet. They're pretty straightforward and either get formed|burned correctly or they don't. There's not a lot of mitigation available to you. In reading your description of the problem, though, I'm tempted to say: the image probably is not the problem. You may very well be giving the computer WHAT it's looking for, but not WHERE IT'S LOOKING FOR IT. When you mounted the virtual drive, it was probably assigned a letter like E or F. But your actual CD-ROM's drive letter is probably D. Since the program already knows the drive letter assigned to your CD-ROM device, it's not going to bother looking anywhere else. Just because you've mounted a virtual drive that's reporting itself as a CD-ROM doesn't mean the apps which have already been installed from another location have any incentive to look any further than exactly where they know the device was during the last session. But this [stubborn] behavior can quite possibly be modified in one of the following ways: (OPTION 1) Telling the application, either directly or indirectly, the "new location of your CD-ROM device." DIRECTLY: This would be accomplished through something like a "program settings" or "preferences" routine that's accessible from within the application itself. (Like in Word or Excel where you can specify the default location of your memos and spreadsheets.) INDIRECTLY: This would involve your editing a (flat text) file created by the application during installation. If such a thing exists, you're most likely looking for a file with the .INI extension, created on the same date and with the same approximate timestamp as the root folder of the application. It could also be dated|timed as recently as the last time you ran the application. Within the file, you'll see statements such as: MediaClips=D:\Media\Cagcat10\Clips\ What you need to do is edit that statement so that it reads: MediaClips=F:\Media\Cagcat10\Clips\ If there are numerous pointers to the CD-ROM drive, just do a Search/Replace which takes every instance of "D:\" and changes it to "F:\" In the absence of an .INI file to store program settings and user preferences, your next option is the Windows Registry. Start at HKLM/Software/<mfg>/<app>/-------. For example, most of the things you would wish to change about Internet Explorer are found at: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Microsoft/InternetExplorer/Main (That's as far as I'm going with registry editing instruction. You either know what you're doing in there or you don't. Your mission is ostensibly the same as above: to substitute the drive letter assigned to your virtual drive (F:\) for the drive letter currently assigned to your CD-ROM (D:\) (OPTION 2) If all that sounds like too much hassle, you can "bring the mountain to Mohammed" as it were by re-assigning the drive letters themselves. - right-clilck MY COMPUTER - select MANAGE - go to the STORAGE section - select DISK MANAGEMENT - click in the small square space to the left of the long, rectangular area representing your CD-ROM drive. - now right-click the same area - the first option on the context menu should be CHANGE DRIVE LETTER AND PATHS; select it - from the drop-down select a letter towards the end of the alphabet (X,Y,Z) - [OK] and [X] yourself back to the desktop - run the application which mounts your virtual CD-ROM drive - re-assign the "virtual" volume's drive letter to the (now -available) letter formerly used by the actual CD-ROM .device. So now D:\ has become F:\ and F:\ has become D:\. Re-boot. Run your application again. The error message you get *now* will truly indicate whether it's the location or the image that is causing the problem you're having. IF EVERYTHING NOW WORKS FINE: I would suggest you mount the "virtual CD" and re-install the application from the virtual drive. This way, all the mappings will be copasetic with the way you wish to run the program and you won't have to worry about EVERY OTHER ONE of your applications [which point to the CDR] giving you the same message about DEVICE NOT FOUND. Hope this helps. Sam French "dfrog" wrote: > A VERY newbie with ISO images, and so far failing to get my head around it > all. > > > > Granddaughter plays EA Sims2 Pets on my computer (WINXP Home) and has to use > the DVD each time to run it. > > > > So, thinking I would simplify & maybe speed things up a bit, (and learn > something about Virtual Drives / ISO images at the same time) I created a > Virtual CDRom using Daemon Tools, created what I thought was an ISO image > using Nero6, but it came out as a .nrg Nero Disc Image which did not work > having mounted it. So I then used MagicISO to convert this Nero .nrg to an > ISO image and mounted it in Daemon Tools. All seemed Ok at this stage, but > when I try to run the program I get >> "Cannot Locate CD-ROM - Please insert > the correct CD-ROM, select OK and restart application." > > > > Having failed there, I installed Magic Disc and mounted the image there, but > get the same result. > > > > I'm sure that I'm probably missing something quite simple, but I've read > till my head spins and still can't manage to get this to work. > > > > I'd appreciate some guidance please > > > > Dfrog > > >
Guest WindowsXPert Posted September 21, 2007 Posted September 21, 2007 RE: ISO image help needed SORRY FOR THE DOUBLE-POSTING. I THOUGHT I LOST THE ORIGINAL AND ACTUALLY RE-WROTE MY REPLY... ONLY TO REALIZE IT'S A *GAME* YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, NOT AN APPLICATION (such as an encyclopedia, Bookoshelf, Encarta or some other data-intense program that likes a CD in the drive as you use it.) So ignore both of them. Even a sector-for-sector copy of the disc to an .ISO image probably won't work because I believe part of the security is related to physical addressing on the disc. Your ISO image will NEVER end up with addressing (while sitting on your hard drive) that's even close to that of a CD\DVD.
Guest dfrog Posted September 21, 2007 Posted September 21, 2007 Re: ISO image help needed "WindowsXPert" <WindowsXPert@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:3299AD58-49CC-4690-A0D1-397F1E253CFC@microsoft.com... > > > SORRY FOR THE DOUBLE-POSTING. I THOUGHT I LOST THE ORIGINAL AND ACTUALLY > RE-WROTE MY REPLY... > > ONLY TO REALIZE IT'S A *GAME* YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, NOT AN APPLICATION > (such > as an encyclopedia, Bookoshelf, Encarta or some other data-intense program > that likes a CD in the drive as you use it.) > > So ignore both of them. Even a sector-for-sector copy of the disc to an > .ISO > image probably won't work because I believe part of the security is > related > to physical addressing on the disc. Your ISO image will NEVER end up with > addressing (while sitting on your hard drive) that's even close to that of > a > CD\DVD. Sam, I'm really grateful for the time you've taken out to help. Although I'm not going to achieve what I set out to, I have learned from you. Thank you very much dfrog
Guest David Webb Posted September 21, 2007 Posted September 21, 2007 Re: ISO image help needed If you still want to pursue this task, I found a solution to the problem posted on the Daemon Tools forum. The solution involves creating an image (1:1 copy) directly from the original CD, mounting the image using Daemon Tools version 4.0.6 or greater and then running a utility called YASU before starting the game. Here's a link to the forum: http://www.daemon-tools.cc/dtcc/showthread.php?t=17464&highlight=sims2+pets YASU, which is an acronym for Yet Another SecuROM Utility, disables blacklistings made by SecuROM and SafeDisc. You could use CloneCD (shareware) or ISO Recorder (freeware) to create the image. Here are some links: http://www.slysoft.com/en/clonecd.html http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/isorecorder.htm http://www.daemon-tools.cc/dtcc/download.php http://yasu.copybase.org/ "dfrog" <dfrog@lineone1.net> wrote in message news:5lhfumF87uuoU1@mid.individual.net... > > "WindowsXPert" <WindowsXPert@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:3299AD58-49CC-4690-A0D1-397F1E253CFC@microsoft.com... > > > > > > SORRY FOR THE DOUBLE-POSTING. I THOUGHT I LOST THE ORIGINAL AND ACTUALLY > > RE-WROTE MY REPLY... > > > > ONLY TO REALIZE IT'S A *GAME* YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, NOT AN APPLICATION > > (such > > as an encyclopedia, Bookoshelf, Encarta or some other data-intense program > > that likes a CD in the drive as you use it.) > > > > So ignore both of them. Even a sector-for-sector copy of the disc to an > > .ISO > > image probably won't work because I believe part of the security is > > related > > to physical addressing on the disc. Your ISO image will NEVER end up with > > addressing (while sitting on your hard drive) that's even close to that of > > a > > CD\DVD. > > Sam, > > I'm really grateful for the time you've taken out to help. Although I'm not > going to achieve what I set out to, I have learned from you. > Thank you very much > > dfrog > >
Guest dfrog Posted September 21, 2007 Posted September 21, 2007 Re: ISO image help needed David, You've bounced me back up again - maybe I can do it :-) Thank you for your help dfrog "David Webb" <dwebb211@earthling.net> wrote in message news:OFX3ZxE$HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > If you still want to pursue this task, I found a solution to the problem > posted > on the Daemon Tools forum. The solution involves creating an image (1:1 > copy) > directly from the original CD, mounting the image using Daemon Tools > version > 4.0.6 or greater and then running a utility called YASU before starting > the > game. > > Here's a link to the forum: > http://www.daemon-tools.cc/dtcc/showthread.php?t=17464&highlight=sims2+pets > > YASU, which is an acronym for Yet Another SecuROM Utility, disables > blacklistings made by SecuROM and SafeDisc. > > You could use CloneCD (shareware) or ISO Recorder (freeware) to create the > image. > > Here are some links: > > http://www.slysoft.com/en/clonecd.html > > http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/isorecorder.htm > > http://www.daemon-tools.cc/dtcc/download.php > > http://yasu.copybase.org/ > > "dfrog" <dfrog@lineone1.net> wrote in message > news:5lhfumF87uuoU1@mid.individual.net... >> >> "WindowsXPert" <WindowsXPert@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:3299AD58-49CC-4690-A0D1-397F1E253CFC@microsoft.com... >> > >> > >> > SORRY FOR THE DOUBLE-POSTING. I THOUGHT I LOST THE ORIGINAL AND >> > ACTUALLY >> > RE-WROTE MY REPLY... >> > >> > ONLY TO REALIZE IT'S A *GAME* YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, NOT AN APPLICATION >> > (such >> > as an encyclopedia, Bookoshelf, Encarta or some other data-intense >> > program >> > that likes a CD in the drive as you use it.) >> > >> > So ignore both of them. Even a sector-for-sector copy of the disc to an >> > .ISO >> > image probably won't work because I believe part of the security is >> > related >> > to physical addressing on the disc. Your ISO image will NEVER end up >> > with >> > addressing (while sitting on your hard drive) that's even close to that >> > of >> > a >> > CD\DVD. >> >> Sam, >> >> I'm really grateful for the time you've taken out to help. Although I'm >> not >> going to achieve what I set out to, I have learned from you. >> Thank you very much >> >> dfrog >> >> > >
Guest David Webb Posted September 21, 2007 Posted September 21, 2007 Re: ISO image help needed You're welcome! I hope it works out for you. Good luck! "dfrog" <dfrog@lineone1.net> wrote in message news:5lhvbqF8cr8fU1@mid.individual.net... > David, > > You've bounced me back up again - maybe I can do it :-) > > Thank you for your help > > dfrog > > > "David Webb" <dwebb211@earthling.net> wrote in message > news:OFX3ZxE$HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > > If you still want to pursue this task, I found a solution to the problem > > posted > > on the Daemon Tools forum. The solution involves creating an image (1:1 > > copy) > > directly from the original CD, mounting the image using Daemon Tools > > version > > 4.0.6 or greater and then running a utility called YASU before starting > > the > > game. > > > > Here's a link to the forum: > > http://www.daemon-tools.cc/dtcc/showthread.php?t=17464&highlight=sims2+pets > > > > YASU, which is an acronym for Yet Another SecuROM Utility, disables > > blacklistings made by SecuROM and SafeDisc. > > > > You could use CloneCD (shareware) or ISO Recorder (freeware) to create the > > image. > > > > Here are some links: > > > > http://www.slysoft.com/en/clonecd.html > > > > http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/isorecorder.htm > > > > http://www.daemon-tools.cc/dtcc/download.php > > > > http://yasu.copybase.org/ > > > > "dfrog" <dfrog@lineone1.net> wrote in message > > news:5lhfumF87uuoU1@mid.individual.net... > >> > >> "WindowsXPert" <WindowsXPert@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> news:3299AD58-49CC-4690-A0D1-397F1E253CFC@microsoft.com... > >> > > >> > > >> > SORRY FOR THE DOUBLE-POSTING. I THOUGHT I LOST THE ORIGINAL AND > >> > ACTUALLY > >> > RE-WROTE MY REPLY... > >> > > >> > ONLY TO REALIZE IT'S A *GAME* YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, NOT AN APPLICATION > >> > (such > >> > as an encyclopedia, Bookoshelf, Encarta or some other data-intense > >> > program > >> > that likes a CD in the drive as you use it.) > >> > > >> > So ignore both of them. Even a sector-for-sector copy of the disc to an > >> > .ISO > >> > image probably won't work because I believe part of the security is > >> > related > >> > to physical addressing on the disc. Your ISO image will NEVER end up > >> > with > >> > addressing (while sitting on your hard drive) that's even close to that > >> > of > >> > a > >> > CD\DVD. > >> > >> Sam, > >> > >> I'm really grateful for the time you've taken out to help. Although I'm > >> not > >> going to achieve what I set out to, I have learned from you. > >> Thank you very much > >> > >> dfrog > >> > >> > > > > > >
Guest ThoraD Posted September 21, 2007 Posted September 21, 2007 Re: ISO image help needed When you said all seemed ok, did that mean your were able to open the mounted ISO image ? Daemon have a list of games and their copy protection, plus a tutorial in making a image for Daemon take a look. If your game have copy protection you will need 1:1 burning program, Daemon have a list of recommendations I use Alcohol52, a lightweight Alcohol120 thatl only makes images. It has worked well up to and including Oblivion but not Knights of the Nine. Have Fun ThoraD "David Webb" <dwebb211@earthling.net> wrote in message news:OohWKrF$HHA.4732@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > You're welcome! I hope it works out for you. > > Good luck! > > "dfrog" <dfrog@lineone1.net> wrote in message > news:5lhvbqF8cr8fU1@mid.individual.net... >> David, >> >> You've bounced me back up again - maybe I can do it :-) >> >> Thank you for your help >> >> dfrog >> >> >> "David Webb" <dwebb211@earthling.net> wrote in message >> news:OFX3ZxE$HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> > If you still want to pursue this task, I found a solution to the >> > problem >> > posted >> > on the Daemon Tools forum. The solution involves creating an image (1:1 >> > copy) >> > directly from the original CD, mounting the image using Daemon Tools >> > version >> > 4.0.6 or greater and then running a utility called YASU before starting >> > the >> > game. >> > >> > Here's a link to the forum: >> > http://www.daemon-tools.cc/dtcc/showthread.php?t=17464&highlight=sims2+pets >> > >> > YASU, which is an acronym for Yet Another SecuROM Utility, disables >> > blacklistings made by SecuROM and SafeDisc. >> > >> > You could use CloneCD (shareware) or ISO Recorder (freeware) to create >> > the >> > image. >> > >> > Here are some links: >> > >> > http://www.slysoft.com/en/clonecd.html >> > >> > http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/isorecorder.htm >> > >> > http://www.daemon-tools.cc/dtcc/download.php >> > >> > http://yasu.copybase.org/ >> > >> > "dfrog" <dfrog@lineone1.net> wrote in message >> > news:5lhfumF87uuoU1@mid.individual.net... >> >> >> >> "WindowsXPert" <WindowsXPert@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in >> >> message >> >> news:3299AD58-49CC-4690-A0D1-397F1E253CFC@microsoft.com... >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > SORRY FOR THE DOUBLE-POSTING. I THOUGHT I LOST THE ORIGINAL AND >> >> > ACTUALLY >> >> > RE-WROTE MY REPLY... >> >> > >> >> > ONLY TO REALIZE IT'S A *GAME* YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, NOT AN >> >> > APPLICATION >> >> > (such >> >> > as an encyclopedia, Bookoshelf, Encarta or some other data-intense >> >> > program >> >> > that likes a CD in the drive as you use it.) >> >> > >> >> > So ignore both of them. Even a sector-for-sector copy of the disc to >> >> > an >> >> > .ISO >> >> > image probably won't work because I believe part of the security is >> >> > related >> >> > to physical addressing on the disc. Your ISO image will NEVER end up >> >> > with >> >> > addressing (while sitting on your hard drive) that's even close to >> >> > that >> >> > of >> >> > a >> >> > CD\DVD. >> >> >> >> Sam, >> >> >> >> I'm really grateful for the time you've taken out to help. Although >> >> I'm >> >> not >> >> going to achieve what I set out to, I have learned from you. >> >> Thank you very much >> >> >> >> dfrog >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> > >
Guest Homer J. Simpson Posted September 21, 2007 Posted September 21, 2007 Re: ISO image help needed Everybody so far has given good advice. The problem on your end is creating that ISO image file while carrying over the copy protection that the game code is gonna be looking for. An alternative to trying to create that file yourself is to use a mini-disc image. Essentially, it's a mostly-empty .ISO file that actually contains the bare minimum number of files that the game will be looking for when trying to determine whether your disc is valid or not. It could very well be roughly the same size as the original disc (eg, 500+MB), but actually compresses down to practically nothing (as it's mostly hot air, so to speak--the disc structure is there, but not the content, except for a few key files). In the case of Sims 2 Pets, the mini-disc image I have is ~550MB, but using NTFS compression, it actually takes less than 120KB on my hard drive. You can then mount that .ISO file with Daemon Tools and the like. NTFS compression is transparent to applications, so Daemon Tools doesn't get confused by the fact that the file is compressed (as it would, say, if you were trying to mount a .zip file). Beyond that--this is sort of a gray area (all the while some copy protection proponents would argue that no, it's not), so I won't point you to the actual file...but suffice it to say it's out there. Personally, my view on this is that copy protection only serves to annoy legitimate users, and the pirates already *are* using those files, so it's not like I'm helping *them* by mentioning any of this...
Guest dfrog Posted September 21, 2007 Posted September 21, 2007 Re: ISO image help needed I have spent hours trying (without success because of the protection issue I think) to mount an image of Sims2 Pets into a Virtual CD-Rom, BUT, because of the help I've had here I have found a program "Game Jackal" (don't ask me how I got there 'cos I can't recall other than it was these replies that spurred me on) I have downloaded a Trial version which has worked for me, and worked very easily. We can now hide Granddaughter's very scratched DVD and work off the HD. At $29 (just £14 to us in the UK), I'm going to buy the licence. For anyone at a similar stage, it's well worth a look at. Thank you all again for your help. dfrog "ThoraD" <ThoraDToBeRemoved@cox.net> wrote in message news:OJzBzFG$HHA.4656@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > When you said all seemed ok, did that mean your were able to open the > mounted ISO image ? > Daemon have a list of games and their copy protection, plus a tutorial in > making a image for Daemon > take a look. > If your game have copy protection you will need 1:1 burning program, > Daemon have a list of recommendations > I use Alcohol52, a lightweight Alcohol120 thatl only makes images. It has > worked well up to and including Oblivion but not Knights of the Nine. > Have Fun > ThoraD > > "David Webb" <dwebb211@earthling.net> wrote in message > news:OohWKrF$HHA.4732@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> You're welcome! I hope it works out for you. >> >> Good luck! >> >> "dfrog" <dfrog@lineone1.net> wrote in message >> news:5lhvbqF8cr8fU1@mid.individual.net... >>> David, >>> >>> You've bounced me back up again - maybe I can do it :-) >>> >>> Thank you for your help >>> >>> dfrog >>> >>> >>> "David Webb" <dwebb211@earthling.net> wrote in message >>> news:OFX3ZxE$HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>> > If you still want to pursue this task, I found a solution to the >>> > problem >>> > posted >>> > on the Daemon Tools forum. The solution involves creating an image >>> > (1:1 >>> > copy) >>> > directly from the original CD, mounting the image using Daemon Tools >>> > version >>> > 4.0.6 or greater and then running a utility called YASU before >>> > starting >>> > the >>> > game. >>> > >>> > Here's a link to the forum: >>> > http://www.daemon-tools.cc/dtcc/showthread.php?t=17464&highlight=sims2+pets >>> > >>> > YASU, which is an acronym for Yet Another SecuROM Utility, disables >>> > blacklistings made by SecuROM and SafeDisc. >>> > >>> > You could use CloneCD (shareware) or ISO Recorder (freeware) to create >>> > the >>> > image. >>> > >>> > Here are some links: >>> > >>> > http://www.slysoft.com/en/clonecd.html >>> > >>> > http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/isorecorder.htm >>> > >>> > http://www.daemon-tools.cc/dtcc/download.php >>> > >>> > http://yasu.copybase.org/ >>> > >>> > "dfrog" <dfrog@lineone1.net> wrote in message >>> > news:5lhfumF87uuoU1@mid.individual.net... >>> >> >>> >> "WindowsXPert" <WindowsXPert@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in >>> >> message >>> >> news:3299AD58-49CC-4690-A0D1-397F1E253CFC@microsoft.com... >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > SORRY FOR THE DOUBLE-POSTING. I THOUGHT I LOST THE ORIGINAL AND >>> >> > ACTUALLY >>> >> > RE-WROTE MY REPLY... >>> >> > >>> >> > ONLY TO REALIZE IT'S A *GAME* YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, NOT AN >>> >> > APPLICATION >>> >> > (such >>> >> > as an encyclopedia, Bookoshelf, Encarta or some other data-intense >>> >> > program >>> >> > that likes a CD in the drive as you use it.) >>> >> > >>> >> > So ignore both of them. Even a sector-for-sector copy of the disc >>> >> > to an >>> >> > .ISO >>> >> > image probably won't work because I believe part of the security is >>> >> > related >>> >> > to physical addressing on the disc. Your ISO image will NEVER end >>> >> > up >>> >> > with >>> >> > addressing (while sitting on your hard drive) that's even close to >>> >> > that >>> >> > of >>> >> > a >>> >> > CD\DVD. >>> >> >>> >> Sam, >>> >> >>> >> I'm really grateful for the time you've taken out to help. Although >>> >> I'm >>> >> not >>> >> going to achieve what I set out to, I have learned from you. >>> >> Thank you very much >>> >> >>> >> dfrog >>> >> >>> >> >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >> >> > >
Guest dfrog Posted September 21, 2007 Posted September 21, 2007 Re: ISO image help needed Thanks 'Homer' I should add to my last post that as a part of my learning curve I'll follow up on all the helpful advice and tuck it under my belt along with whatever is already there. cheers dfrog "Homer J. Simpson" <root@127.0.0.1> wrote in message news:Ol96zaH$HHA.2004@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Everybody so far has given good advice. > > The problem on your end is creating that ISO image file while carrying > over the copy protection that the game code is gonna be looking for. > > An alternative to trying to create that file yourself is to use a > mini-disc image. Essentially, it's a mostly-empty .ISO file that actually > contains the bare minimum number of files that the game will be looking > for when trying to determine whether your disc is valid or not. It could > very well be roughly the same size as the original disc (eg, 500+MB), but > actually compresses down to practically nothing (as it's mostly hot air, > so to speak--the disc structure is there, but not the content, except for > a few key files). > > In the case of Sims 2 Pets, the mini-disc image I have is ~550MB, but > using NTFS compression, it actually takes less than 120KB on my hard > drive. You can then mount that .ISO file with Daemon Tools and the like. > NTFS compression is transparent to applications, so Daemon Tools doesn't > get confused by the fact that the file is compressed (as it would, say, if > you were trying to mount a .zip file). > > Beyond that--this is sort of a gray area (all the while some copy > protection proponents would argue that no, it's not), so I won't point you > to the actual file...but suffice it to say it's out there. Personally, my > view on this is that copy protection only serves to annoy legitimate > users, and the pirates already *are* using those files, so it's not like > I'm helping *them* by mentioning any of this... >
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