Guest CWEMLRL Posted September 20, 2007 Posted September 20, 2007 Anybody have some insight as to the future of XP? How long will MS continue to support it?
Guest Fuzzy Logic Posted September 20, 2007 Posted September 20, 2007 Re: XPs future "CWEMLRL" <cweverette6363@yahoo.com> wrote in news:uxge8I8#HHA.4784@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl: > Anybody have some insight as to the future of XP? How long will MS > continue to support it? http://support.microsoft.com/lifecycle/?LN=en-gb&x=16&y=12&C2=1173
Guest Bob I Posted September 20, 2007 Posted September 20, 2007 Re: XPs future http://support.microsoft.com/gp/lifepolicy CWEMLRL wrote: > Anybody have some insight as to the future of XP? How long will MS continue > to support it? > >
Guest VanguardLH Posted September 20, 2007 Posted September 20, 2007 Re: XPs future "CWEMLRL" wrote ... > Anybody have some insight as to the future of XP? How long will MS > continue to support it? Have you ever paid Microsoft to get support for Windows XP? You get all of 2 incident reports with a *retail* version of Windows. That's why I buy OEM versions because the loss of that support is insignificant when compared to the cheaper cost of the OEM version. There are lots of venues to get support on Windows (forums, newsgroups, library books) and which do not require paying Microsoft for it. Mainstream supports ends April 2009. If Microsoft hasn't stabilized Windows XP by then, it never will. Extended support, which includes security updates, goes until August 2014. While I haven't moved to Vista (no bang-for-the-buck for me), I'm pretty sure that I'll be on a different OS in another 7 years.
Guest Ken Blake, MVP Posted September 20, 2007 Posted September 20, 2007 Re: XPs future On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 16:41:46 -0500, "VanguardLH" <VanguardLH@mail.invalid> wrote: > "CWEMLRL" wrote ... > > Anybody have some insight as to the future of XP? How long will MS > > continue to support it? > > > Have you ever paid Microsoft to get support for Windows XP? You get > all of 2 incident reports with a *retail* version of Windows. That's > why I buy OEM versions because the loss of that support is > insignificant when compared to the cheaper cost of the OEM version. I, on the other hand, strongly recommend *against* OEM versions. But my recommendation has nothing to do with support. Assuming that you qualify for the Upgrade version I recommend that instead, since it usually costs only slightly more than an OEM version, and comes without the severe OEM restriction that once installed, it can never legally be moved to another computer, even if the original one dies. And contrary to what many people think, the Upgrade version *can* do a clean installation, as long as you have a CD of a previous qualifying version to show it when prompted as proof of ownership. Most people have such a CD, but worst case, if you don't, you can buy a used copy of Windows 98 very inexpensively, on eBay or elsewhere. > There are lots of venues to get support on Windows (forums, > newsgroups, library books) and which do not require paying Microsoft > for it. Here I agree with you completely. Calling Microsoft for help is rarely, if ever, necessary. -- Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User Please Reply to the Newsgroup
Guest Alan Posted September 21, 2007 Posted September 21, 2007 Re: XPs future Hi Ken, From what I have read -- and although Microsoft doesn't state it -- I believe an Upgrade version of XP can be installed with even a Windows 95 CD as a previous qualifying O/S version. Alan "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.am.invalid.domain> wrote in message news:8rs5f3lhldcn95k6vcaqa79ic17es67hh9@4ax.com... > On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 16:41:46 -0500, "VanguardLH" > <VanguardLH@mail.invalid> wrote: > >> "CWEMLRL" wrote ... >> > Anybody have some insight as to the future of XP? How long will MS >> > continue to support it? >> >> >> Have you ever paid Microsoft to get support for Windows XP? You get >> all of 2 incident reports with a *retail* version of Windows. That's >> why I buy OEM versions because the loss of that support is >> insignificant when compared to the cheaper cost of the OEM version. > > > I, on the other hand, strongly recommend *against* OEM versions. But > my recommendation has nothing to do with support. Assuming > that you qualify for the Upgrade version I recommend that instead, > since it usually costs only slightly more than an OEM version, and > comes without the severe OEM restriction that once installed, > it can never legally be moved to another computer, even if the > original one dies. > > And contrary to what many people think, the Upgrade version *can* do a > clean installation, as long as you have a CD of a previous qualifying > version to show it when prompted as proof of ownership. Most people > have such a CD, but worst case, if you don't, you can buy a used copy > of Windows 98 very inexpensively, on eBay or elsewhere. > > >> There are lots of venues to get support on Windows (forums, >> newsgroups, library books) and which do not require paying Microsoft >> for it. > > > Here I agree with you completely. Calling Microsoft for help is > rarely, if ever, necessary. > > -- > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User > Please Reply to the Newsgroup
Guest Ken Blake, MVP Posted September 21, 2007 Posted September 21, 2007 Re: XPs future On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 20:14:26 -0400, "Alan" <somewhere@nospam.not> wrote: > Hi Ken, > > From what I have read -- and although Microsoft doesn't state it -- I > believe an Upgrade version of XP can be installed with even a Windows 95 CD > as a previous qualifying O/S version. Yes, that's correct. > > "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.am.invalid.domain> wrote in message > news:8rs5f3lhldcn95k6vcaqa79ic17es67hh9@4ax.com... > > On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 16:41:46 -0500, "VanguardLH" > > <VanguardLH@mail.invalid> wrote: > > > >> "CWEMLRL" wrote ... > >> > Anybody have some insight as to the future of XP? How long will MS > >> > continue to support it? > >> > >> > >> Have you ever paid Microsoft to get support for Windows XP? You get > >> all of 2 incident reports with a *retail* version of Windows. That's > >> why I buy OEM versions because the loss of that support is > >> insignificant when compared to the cheaper cost of the OEM version. > > > > > > I, on the other hand, strongly recommend *against* OEM versions. But > > my recommendation has nothing to do with support. Assuming > > that you qualify for the Upgrade version I recommend that instead, > > since it usually costs only slightly more than an OEM version, and > > comes without the severe OEM restriction that once installed, > > it can never legally be moved to another computer, even if the > > original one dies. > > > > And contrary to what many people think, the Upgrade version *can* do a > > clean installation, as long as you have a CD of a previous qualifying > > version to show it when prompted as proof of ownership. Most people > > have such a CD, but worst case, if you don't, you can buy a used copy > > of Windows 98 very inexpensively, on eBay or elsewhere. > > > > > >> There are lots of venues to get support on Windows (forums, > >> newsgroups, library books) and which do not require paying Microsoft > >> for it. > > > > > > Here I agree with you completely. Calling Microsoft for help is > > rarely, if ever, necessary. > > > > -- > > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User > > Please Reply to the Newsgroup > -- Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User Please Reply to the Newsgroup
Guest Bob I Posted September 21, 2007 Posted September 21, 2007 Re: XPs future Yes, Win95 is qualifing OS for the Upgrade version, you just can't "upgrade" a Windows 95 installation, it does a clean installation. Alan wrote: > Hi Ken, > > From what I have read -- and although Microsoft doesn't state it -- I > believe an Upgrade version of XP can be installed with even a Windows 95 CD > as a previous qualifying O/S version. > > Alan > > "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.am.invalid.domain> wrote in message > news:8rs5f3lhldcn95k6vcaqa79ic17es67hh9@4ax.com... > >>On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 16:41:46 -0500, "VanguardLH" >><VanguardLH@mail.invalid> wrote: >> >> >>>"CWEMLRL" wrote ... >>> >>>>Anybody have some insight as to the future of XP? How long will MS >>>>continue to support it? >>> >>> >>>Have you ever paid Microsoft to get support for Windows XP? You get >>>all of 2 incident reports with a *retail* version of Windows. That's >>>why I buy OEM versions because the loss of that support is >>>insignificant when compared to the cheaper cost of the OEM version. >> >> >>I, on the other hand, strongly recommend *against* OEM versions. But >>my recommendation has nothing to do with support. Assuming >>that you qualify for the Upgrade version I recommend that instead, >>since it usually costs only slightly more than an OEM version, and >>comes without the severe OEM restriction that once installed, >>it can never legally be moved to another computer, even if the >>original one dies. >> >>And contrary to what many people think, the Upgrade version *can* do a >>clean installation, as long as you have a CD of a previous qualifying >>version to show it when prompted as proof of ownership. Most people >>have such a CD, but worst case, if you don't, you can buy a used copy >>of Windows 98 very inexpensively, on eBay or elsewhere. >> >> >> >>>There are lots of venues to get support on Windows (forums, >>>newsgroups, library books) and which do not require paying Microsoft >>>for it. >> >> >>Here I agree with you completely. Calling Microsoft for help is >>rarely, if ever, necessary. >> >>-- >>Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User >>Please Reply to the Newsgroup > > >
Guest Andrew Murray Posted September 22, 2007 Posted September 22, 2007 Re: XPs future Windows 95 isn't a qualifying Windows version for upgrading to XP anyway - has to be Windows 98 or later. "Alan" <somewhere@nospam.not> wrote in message news:u%238mZR%23%23HHA.3916@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > Hi Ken, > > From what I have read -- and although Microsoft doesn't state it -- I > believe an Upgrade version of XP can be installed with even a Windows 95 > CD as a previous qualifying O/S version. > > Alan > > "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.am.invalid.domain> wrote in message > news:8rs5f3lhldcn95k6vcaqa79ic17es67hh9@4ax.com... >> On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 16:41:46 -0500, "VanguardLH" >> <VanguardLH@mail.invalid> wrote: >> >>> "CWEMLRL" wrote ... >>> > Anybody have some insight as to the future of XP? How long will MS >>> > continue to support it? >>> >>> >>> Have you ever paid Microsoft to get support for Windows XP? You get >>> all of 2 incident reports with a *retail* version of Windows. That's >>> why I buy OEM versions because the loss of that support is >>> insignificant when compared to the cheaper cost of the OEM version. >> >> >> I, on the other hand, strongly recommend *against* OEM versions. But >> my recommendation has nothing to do with support. Assuming >> that you qualify for the Upgrade version I recommend that instead, >> since it usually costs only slightly more than an OEM version, and >> comes without the severe OEM restriction that once installed, >> it can never legally be moved to another computer, even if the >> original one dies. >> >> And contrary to what many people think, the Upgrade version *can* do a >> clean installation, as long as you have a CD of a previous qualifying >> version to show it when prompted as proof of ownership. Most people >> have such a CD, but worst case, if you don't, you can buy a used copy >> of Windows 98 very inexpensively, on eBay or elsewhere. >> >> >>> There are lots of venues to get support on Windows (forums, >>> newsgroups, library books) and which do not require paying Microsoft >>> for it. >> >> >> Here I agree with you completely. Calling Microsoft for help is >> rarely, if ever, necessary. >> >> -- >> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User >> Please Reply to the Newsgroup > >
Guest Ken Blake, MVP Posted September 22, 2007 Posted September 22, 2007 Re: XPs future On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 09:23:02 +0800, "Andrew Murray" <adKillSpammersmurray@iinet.net.au> wrote: > Windows 95 isn't a qualifying Windows version for upgrading to XP anyway - > has to be Windows 98 or later. No, not quite correct. Although you can't do an upgrade from Windows 95 to Windows XP, you *can* use a Windows 95 CD as proof of ownership of a qualifying previous version when doing a clean installation, as Alan said. > "Alan" <somewhere@nospam.not> wrote in message > news:u%238mZR%23%23HHA.3916@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > Hi Ken, > > > > From what I have read -- and although Microsoft doesn't state it -- I > > believe an Upgrade version of XP can be installed with even a Windows 95 > > CD as a previous qualifying O/S version. > > > > Alan > > > > "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.am.invalid.domain> wrote in message > > news:8rs5f3lhldcn95k6vcaqa79ic17es67hh9@4ax.com... > >> On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 16:41:46 -0500, "VanguardLH" > >> <VanguardLH@mail.invalid> wrote: > >> > >>> "CWEMLRL" wrote ... > >>> > Anybody have some insight as to the future of XP? How long will MS > >>> > continue to support it? > >>> > >>> > >>> Have you ever paid Microsoft to get support for Windows XP? You get > >>> all of 2 incident reports with a *retail* version of Windows. That's > >>> why I buy OEM versions because the loss of that support is > >>> insignificant when compared to the cheaper cost of the OEM version. > >> > >> > >> I, on the other hand, strongly recommend *against* OEM versions. But > >> my recommendation has nothing to do with support. Assuming > >> that you qualify for the Upgrade version I recommend that instead, > >> since it usually costs only slightly more than an OEM version, and > >> comes without the severe OEM restriction that once installed, > >> it can never legally be moved to another computer, even if the > >> original one dies. > >> > >> And contrary to what many people think, the Upgrade version *can* do a > >> clean installation, as long as you have a CD of a previous qualifying > >> version to show it when prompted as proof of ownership. Most people > >> have such a CD, but worst case, if you don't, you can buy a used copy > >> of Windows 98 very inexpensively, on eBay or elsewhere. > >> > >> > >>> There are lots of venues to get support on Windows (forums, > >>> newsgroups, library books) and which do not require paying Microsoft > >>> for it. > >> > >> > >> Here I agree with you completely. Calling Microsoft for help is > >> rarely, if ever, necessary. > >> > >> -- > >> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User > >> Please Reply to the Newsgroup > > > > > -- Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User Please Reply to the Newsgroup
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