Accessing W98 files and printers in a wireless network

[Guest Adrian]

Previously my network (containing a W98) was wired. I have changed to

wireless. I am able to access email and internet alright form the W98, but

how do I make files and printers of the W98 accessible by other boxes in the

wireless network? When the W98 was hard-wired up there was no problem in

doing that, however, now being wirelessed up, I cannot solve the access

problem.

 

Adrian.

[Guest PCR]

Re: Accessing W98 files and printers in a wireless network

 

Adrian wrote:

| Previously my network (containing a W98) was wired. I have changed to

| wireless. I am able to access email and internet alright form the

| W98, but how do I make files and printers of the W98 accessible by

| other boxes in the wireless network? When the W98 was hard-wired up

| there was no problem in doing that, however, now being wirelessed up,

| I cannot solve the access problem.

 

"Control Panel, Network, Configuration tab, File & Print Sharing button"

Did you put a check into the two boxes there?

 

| Adrian.

 

--

Thanks or Good Luck,

There may be humor in this post, and,

Naturally, you will not sue,

Should things get worse after this,

PCR

pcrrcp@netzero.net

[Guest Adrian]

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"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

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> Adrian wrote:

> | Previously my network (containing a W98) was wired. I have changed to

> | wireless. I am able to access email and internet alright form the

> | W98, but how do I make files and printers of the W98 accessible by

> | other boxes in the wireless network? When the W98 was hard-wired up

> | there was no problem in doing that, however, now being wirelessed up,

> | I cannot solve the access problem.

>

> "Control Panel, Network, Configuration tab, File & Print Sharing button"

> Did you put a check into the two boxes there?

>

> | Adrian.

>

> --

> Thanks or Good Luck,

> There may be humor in this post, and,

> Naturally, you will not sue,

> Should things get worse after this,

> PCR

> pcrrcp@netzero.net

>

>

Yes I had done that.

Adrian

[Guest Adrian]

Re: Accessing W98 files and printers in a wireless network

 

"Adrian" <xx@xx.xx> wrote in message

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>

> "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

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>> Adrian wrote:

>> | Previously my network (containing a W98) was wired. I have changed to

>> | wireless. I am able to access email and internet alright form the

>> | W98, but how do I make files and printers of the W98 accessible by

>> | other boxes in the wireless network? When the W98 was hard-wired up

>> | there was no problem in doing that, however, now being wirelessed up,

>> | I cannot solve the access problem.

>>

>> "Control Panel, Network, Configuration tab, File & Print Sharing button"

>> Did you put a check into the two boxes there?

>>

>> | Adrian.

>>

>> --

>> Thanks or Good Luck,

>> There may be humor in this post, and,

>> Naturally, you will not sue,

>> Should things get worse after this,

>> PCR

>> pcrrcp@netzero.net

>>

>>

> Yes I had done that.

> Adrian

>

I am using a Belkin Range Extender / Access Point because I did not want to

change my current router + modem combination, the reason being that I also

have telephone via the ISP. I have the setup (two pcs (XP and Vista)

connected to a third (W98 box with big disk)) up and running wireless, but

there are hicks and tricks that I cannot get my finger behind with respect

to getting the W98 box communicating properly wireless (*). There does not

seem to be any consistent causality. I have reinstalled W98 and have

reinstalled the wireless network adaptor of Belkin. Once it is running it

seems to be alright. Don't know if the connection will prove to be stable

yet. Anyone got experience with Belkin and the sort of configuration I am

working with, who could shed some light on the faltering wireless

communication between the W98 box and the Belkin Range Extender Cum Access

Point?

 

Many thanks,

Adrian.

 

(*) Problem: after powering up the W98 box, a connection (W98 / Adapter) is

established, according to Belkin connection software. It indicates that the

signal is ok and that the link is ok. Nevertheless Internet is inaccessible

from the W98 box, as are the other PCs in the network (inaccessible from the

W98 box). At the same time the XP and the Vista can access the Internet

alright, but to both the W98 box isn't visible. Then I muck about with just

about everything, and bingo, problem solved. As I said above, any causality

between what I have done and the result completely eludes me.

[Guest Adrian]

Re: Accessing W98 files and printers in a wireless network

 

"Adrian" <xx@xx.xx> wrote in message

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> "Adrian" <xx@xx.xx> wrote in message

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>>

>> "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

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>>> Adrian wrote:

>>> | Previously my network (containing a W98) was wired. I have changed to

>>> | wireless. I am able to access email and internet alright form the

>>> | W98, but how do I make files and printers of the W98 accessible by

>>> | other boxes in the wireless network? When the W98 was hard-wired up

>>> | there was no problem in doing that, however, now being wirelessed up,

>>> | I cannot solve the access problem.

>>>

>>> "Control Panel, Network, Configuration tab, File & Print Sharing button"

>>> Did you put a check into the two boxes there?

>>>

>>> | Adrian.

>>>

>>> --

>>> Thanks or Good Luck,

>>> There may be humor in this post, and,

>>> Naturally, you will not sue,

>>> Should things get worse after this,

>>> PCR

>>> pcrrcp@netzero.net

>>>

>>>

>> Yes I had done that.

>> Adrian

>>

> I am using a Belkin Range Extender / Access Point because I did not want

> to change my current router + modem combination, the reason being that I

> also have telephone via the ISP. I have the setup (two pcs (XP and Vista)

> connected to a third (W98 box with big disk)) up and running wireless, but

> there are hicks and tricks that I cannot get my finger behind with respect

> to getting the W98 box communicating properly wireless (*). There does not

> seem to be any consistent causality. I have reinstalled W98 and have

> reinstalled the wireless network adaptor of Belkin. Once it is running it

> seems to be alright. Don't know if the connection will prove to be stable

> yet. Anyone got experience with Belkin and the sort of configuration I am

> working with, who could shed some light on the faltering wireless

> communication between the W98 box and the Belkin Range Extender Cum Access

> Point?

>

> Many thanks,

> Adrian.

>

> (*) Problem: after powering up the W98 box, a connection (W98 / Adapter)

> is established, according to Belkin connection software. It indicates that

> the signal is ok and that the link is ok. Nevertheless Internet is

> inaccessible from the W98 box, as are the other PCs in the network

> (inaccessible from the W98 box). At the same time the XP and the Vista can

> access the Internet alright, but to both the W98 box isn't visible. Then I

> muck about with just about everything, and bingo, problem solved. As I

> said above, any causality between what I have done and the result

> completely eludes me.

If there is any consistency at all with respect to my trials to get the W98

box wirelissing properly it is after the box has been switched off and is

powered up again.

[Guest Ingeborg]

Re: Accessing W98 files and printers in a wireless network

 

 

When you don't have connection, does it help to execute

 

winipcfg /renew

 

from a command prompt on the W98 box?

[Guest Adrian]

Re: Accessing W98 files and printers in a wireless network

 

"Ingeborg" <a@b.invalid> wrote in message

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>

> When you don't have connection, does it help to execute

>

> winipcfg /renew

>

> from a command prompt on the W98 box?

>

>

Hi Ingeborg,

 

Thank you for your suggestion. I won't be able to test it right now, but I

will. Have a nice weekend.

 

Adrian.

[Guest Adrian]

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"Ingeborg" <a@b.invalid> wrote in message

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>

> When you don't have connection, does it help to execute

>

> winipcfg /renew

>

> from a command prompt on the W98 box?

>

>

 

"DHCP server unavailable"

I tried sooner because the connection dropped out.

[Guest Adrian]

Re: Accessing W98 files and printers in a wireless network

 

 

"Adrian" <xx@xx.xx> wrote in message

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> "Ingeborg" <a@b.invalid> wrote in message

> news:Xns99B2A4E2BEFF2abinvalid@194.109.133.133...

>>

>> When you don't have connection, does it help to execute

>>

>> winipcfg /renew

>>

>> from a command prompt on the W98 box?

>>

>>

>

> "DHCP server unavailable"

> I tried sooner because the connection dropped out.

>

 

I am now running the Belkin adapter with Belkin software. Is there an

alternative for the Belkin software, assuming their driver remains in place?

The point is that the connection with the access point is problem free on my

XP and my Vista, so it doesn't seem to be the access point per se, but the

adapter (software) in combination with W98. Is there alternative software

available - either part of W98 or downloadable?

 

Adrian.

[Guest MEB]

Re: Accessing W98 files and printers in a wireless network

 

 

 

"Adrian" <xx@xx.xx> wrote in message

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|

| "Adrian" <xx@xx.xx> wrote in message

| news:46f3da50$0$24401$5fc3050@news.tiscali.nl...

| > "Ingeborg" <a@b.invalid> wrote in message

| > news:Xns99B2A4E2BEFF2abinvalid@194.109.133.133...

| >>

| >> When you don't have connection, does it help to execute

| >>

| >> winipcfg /renew

| >>

| >> from a command prompt on the W98 box?

| >>

| >>

| >

| > "DHCP server unavailable"

| > I tried sooner because the connection dropped out.

| >

|

| I am now running the Belkin adapter with Belkin software. Is there an

| alternative for the Belkin software, assuming their driver remains in

place?

| The point is that the connection with the access point is problem free on

my

| XP and my Vista, so it doesn't seem to be the access point per se, but the

| adapter (software) in combination with W98. Is there alternative software

| available - either part of W98 or downloadable?

|

| Adrian.

|

 

UNLESS, you have completely diagnosed the issue and confined such

specifically to the Belkin driver, OR if the driver was NOT created for the

9X OS, likely your issues are not related directly to the drivers.

 

There are a number of potential issues ranging from the wrong or

conflicting IP addressing and or protocol version; to browser conflicts; to

firewall issues; to security issues/settings; to ..., well, you get the idea

I hope.

 

Perhaps it would help if the group first received some basic network

information.

 

Please post the results from:

 

1. In XP and VISTA:

from the run box "cmd ipconfig /all"

 

2. In 98:

from the run box "winipcfg", posting the Belkin, local network, and

*phone/modem* {if applicable}, TCP/IP adapter settings.

 

Also, it would be instrumental to know what security protocol [none, MAC,

WEP, WPA, etc.] you are using.

 

--

MEB

http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

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[Guest PCR]

Re: Accessing W98 files and printers in a wireless network

 

Adrian wrote:

| "Adrian" <xx@xx.xx> wrote in message

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|> "Ingeborg" <a@b.invalid> wrote in message

|> news:Xns99B2A4E2BEFF2abinvalid@194.109.133.133...

|>>

|>> When you don't have connection, does it help to execute

|>>

|>> winipcfg /renew

|>>

|>> from a command prompt on the W98 box?

|>>

|>>

|>

|> "DHCP server unavailable"

|> I tried sooner because the connection dropped out.

|>

|

| I am now running the Belkin adapter with Belkin software. Is there an

| alternative for the Belkin software, assuming their driver remains in

| place? The point is that the connection with the access point is

| problem free on my XP and my Vista, so it doesn't seem to be the

| access point per se, but the adapter (software) in combination with

| W98. Is there alternative software available - either part of W98 or

| downloadable?

 

Yikes! I can see you've done a lot already-- & that I never should have

entered this thread! You've gone way beyond my experience on it! It

looks like MEB has more, & I know Brian A. has experience with it too.

Good luck! I'm glad to see you've got it working intermittently at

least!

 

| Adrian.

 

--

Thanks or Good Luck,

There may be humor in this post, and,

Naturally, you will not sue,

Should things get worse after this,

PCR

pcrrcp@netzero.net

[Guest Adrian]

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PCR <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

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> Yikes! I can see you've done a lot already-- & that I never should have

> entered this thread! You've gone way beyond my experience on it! It

> looks like MEB has more, & I know Brian A. has experience with it too.

> Good luck! I'm glad to see you've got it working intermittently at

> least!

>

 

Thank you for saying "Hello".

Adrian.

[Guest PCR]

Re: Accessing W98 files and printers in a wireless network

 

Adrian wrote:

| PCR <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

| news:eSZyvMK$HHA.600@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

|

|> Yikes! I can see you've done a lot already-- & that I never should

|> have entered this thread! You've gone way beyond my experience on

|> it! It looks like MEB has more, & I know Brian A. has experience

|> with it too. Good luck! I'm glad to see you've got it working

|> intermittently at least!

|>

|

| Thank you for saying "Hello".

 

You are welcome. I'll continue to look in, but must doubt I can be of

any help.

 

| Adrian.

[Guest Adrian]

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MEB <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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>

>

> "Adrian" <xx@xx.xx> wrote in message

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> |

> | "Adrian" <xx@xx.xx> wrote in message

> | news:46f3da50$0$24401$5fc3050@news.tiscali.nl...

> | > "Ingeborg" <a@b.invalid> wrote in message

> | > news:Xns99B2A4E2BEFF2abinvalid@194.109.133.133...

> | >>

> | >> When you don't have connection, does it help to execute

> | >>

> | >> winipcfg /renew

> | >>

> | >> from a command prompt on the W98 box?

> | >>

> | >>

> | >

> | > "DHCP server unavailable"

> | > I tried sooner because the connection dropped out.

> | >

> |

> | I am now running the Belkin adapter with Belkin software. Is there an

> | alternative for the Belkin software, assuming their driver remains in

> place?

> | The point is that the connection with the access point is problem free

on

> my

> | XP and my Vista, so it doesn't seem to be the access point per se, but

the

> | adapter (software) in combination with W98. Is there alternative

software

> | available - either part of W98 or downloadable?

> |

> | Adrian.

> |

>

> UNLESS, you have completely diagnosed the issue and confined such

> specifically to the Belkin driver, OR if the driver was NOT created for

the

> 9X OS, likely your issues are not related directly to the drivers.

>

> There are a number of potential issues ranging from the wrong or

> conflicting IP addressing and or protocol version; to browser conflicts;

to

> firewall issues; to security issues/settings; to ..., well, you get the

idea

> I hope.

>

> Perhaps it would help if the group first received some basic network

> information.

>

> Please post the results from:

>

> 1. In XP and VISTA:

> from the run box "cmd ipconfig /all"

 

********************************************

Xp and Vista are connecting to the wireless network fine.

********************************************

>

> 2. In 98:

> from the run box "winipcfg", posting the Belkin, local network, and

> *phone/modem* {if applicable}, TCP/IP adapter settings.

********************************************

It gives

1. the adapter address

2. ip address

3. subnet mask

4. defaukt gateway

 

I am unsure whether it is a good idea to have that information on apublic

display.

 

The Default Gateway is the IP address* of the router to which the Access

Point is connected.

The IP address is the same* except for the last character combination (after

the last dot).

 

TCP/IP Properties Tabs:

DNS Configureation: Disable DNS

Gayeway: no data is entered to the fields

WINS configuration: no data is entered to the fields

IP address: obtain IP automatically

Bindings: Client for Microsoft Networks, File and Printer Shariing for

Microsofdt Networks, Microsoft Family Logon - are ticked

Advanced: Allow binding to ATM; Value = No

NetBIOS: shadowed out

********************************************

>

> Also, it would be instrumental to know what security protocol [none, MAC,

> WEP, WPA, etc.] you are using.

>

********************************************

WEP

********************************************

> --

> MEB

> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> ________

>

>

>

[Guest Adrian]

Re: Accessing W98 files and printers in a wireless network

 

Adrian <not@all.thanku> wrote in message

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>

> MEB <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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> >

> >

> > "Adrian" <xx@xx.xx> wrote in message

> > news:46f3ddc9$0$24433$5fc3050@news.tiscali.nl...

> > |

> > | "Adrian" <xx@xx.xx> wrote in message

> > | news:46f3da50$0$24401$5fc3050@news.tiscali.nl...

> > | > "Ingeborg" <a@b.invalid> wrote in message

> > | > news:Xns99B2A4E2BEFF2abinvalid@194.109.133.133...

> > | >>

> > | >> When you don't have connection, does it help to execute

> > | >>

> > | >> winipcfg /renew

> > | >>

> > | >> from a command prompt on the W98 box?

> > | >>

> > | >>

> > | >

> > | > "DHCP server unavailable"

> > | > I tried sooner because the connection dropped out.

> > | >

> > |

> > | I am now running the Belkin adapter with Belkin software. Is there an

> > | alternative for the Belkin software, assuming their driver remains in

> > place?

> > | The point is that the connection with the access point is problem free

> on

> > my

> > | XP and my Vista, so it doesn't seem to be the access point per se, but

> the

> > | adapter (software) in combination with W98. Is there alternative

> software

> > | available - either part of W98 or downloadable?

> > |

> > | Adrian.

> > |

> >

> > UNLESS, you have completely diagnosed the issue and confined such

> > specifically to the Belkin driver, OR if the driver was NOT created for

> the

> > 9X OS, likely your issues are not related directly to the drivers.

> >

> > There are a number of potential issues ranging from the wrong or

> > conflicting IP addressing and or protocol version; to browser conflicts;

> to

> > firewall issues; to security issues/settings; to ..., well, you get the

> idea

> > I hope.

> >

> > Perhaps it would help if the group first received some basic network

> > information.

> >

> > Please post the results from:

> >

> > 1. In XP and VISTA:

> > from the run box "cmd ipconfig /all"

>

> ********************************************

> Xp and Vista are connecting to the wireless network fine.

> ********************************************

> >

> > 2. In 98:

> > from the run box "winipcfg", posting the Belkin, local network, and

> > *phone/modem* {if applicable}, TCP/IP adapter settings.

> ********************************************

> It gives

> 1. the adapter address

> 2. ip address

> 3. subnet mask

> 4. defaukt gateway

>

> I am unsure whether it is a good idea to have that information on apublic

> display.

>

> The Default Gateway is the IP address* of the router to which the Access

> Point is connected.

> The IP address is the same* except for the last character combination

(after

> the last dot).

>

> TCP/IP Properties Tabs:

> DNS Configureation: Disable DNS

> Gayeway: no data is entered to the fields

> WINS configuration: no data is entered to the fields

> IP address: obtain IP automatically

> Bindings: Client for Microsoft Networks, File and Printer Shariing for

> Microsofdt Networks, Microsoft Family Logon - are ticked

> Advanced: Allow binding to ATM; Value = No

> NetBIOS: shadowed out

> ********************************************

> >

> > Also, it would be instrumental to know what security protocol [none,

MAC,

> > WEP, WPA, etc.] you are using.

> >

> ********************************************

> WEP

> ********************************************

 

RE:

from the run box "winipcfg", posting the Belkin, local network, and

 

What I have entered are the values if the connection is there.

[Guest MEB]

Re: Accessing W98 files and printers in a wireless network

 

I had typed a response to your postings, but as I have no personal knowledge

of your wireless *repeater* configuration [belkin Range Extender / Access

Point], perhaps this is more helpful. You have what amounts to multiple

routers involved.

 

You would likely have more luck in * microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web

* which would be a more appropriate discussion group.

NOTE though, they are likely to also request your network configuration for

diagnosis. When posting there, condense your postings from this group into

one informative post, rather than exposing bits and pieces as you go.

 

Might want to check out the second link below and see if it might help.

 

--

MEB

http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ref/gen/security/NETWORKING.htm

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[Guest Adrian]

Re: Accessing W98 files and printers in a wireless network

 

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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> You would likely have more luck in *

> microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web

> * which would be a more appropriate discussion group.

> NOTE though, they are likely to also request your network configuration

> for

> diagnosis. When posting there, condense your postings from this group into

> one informative post, rather than exposing bits and pieces as you go.

>

> Might want to check out the second link below and see if it might help.

 

Hi, I think I will give up on the Win 98 + Belkin combination. I simply

cannot get it to work. I have checked out a source on the Internet which

specifies how the settings should be - I had them all correct, so it would

seem a lost battle. I will probably transfer to an XPP. I threw out the

Belkin software on my XPP as well and am using the XPP software for the

connection. I have lost faith in Belkin.

 

Many thanks,

Adrian.