Guest Blackberry Posted September 22, 2007 Posted September 22, 2007 Hi All Just wondered if you had any ideas on this one. I have 2 x nursery schools that are 2 separate buildings, but are only the width of a road apart, ie they are separated by a single road. We are looking to install ADSL at both sites and rather than email files between sites or walk backwards and forwards across the road, we wanted to put in place a sort of network link so that machines on both sites had a designated shared 'folder' that they could drop things in and the other site could pick up - does that make sense? Basically if I was on a standard LAN and I had a shared folder others could have access to that shared folder only and drag and drop things in and out. What I want to do is extend that so that these sites have access this way over ADSL/the Internet. Do you know of a way that I can do this? I've done the whole remote desktop thingy, but I want to be able to drop stuff into a folder rather than take over somebody's desktop. Thanks
Guest Pegasus \(MVP\) Posted September 22, 2007 Posted September 22, 2007 Re: Remote Access between 2 x XP ADSL machines "Blackberry" <info@NoSpamIt.com> wrote in message news:ukyGmNS$HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > Hi All > > Just wondered if you had any ideas on this one. I have 2 x nursery > schools > that are 2 separate buildings, but are only the width of a road apart, ie > they are separated by a single road. > > We are looking to install ADSL at both sites and rather than email files > between sites or walk backwards and forwards across the road, we wanted to > put in place a sort of network link so that machines on both sites had a > designated shared 'folder' that they could drop things in and the other > site > could pick up - does that make sense? > > Basically if I was on a standard LAN and I had a shared folder others > could > have access to that shared folder only and drag and drop things in and > out. > What I want to do is extend that so that these sites have access this way > over ADSL/the Internet. > > Do you know of a way that I can do this? > > I've done the whole remote desktop thingy, but I want to be able to drop > stuff into a folder rather than take over somebody's desktop. > > Thanks > Yes, it can be done. It is referred to as a Virtual Private Network. All machines included in a VPN appear as if they were connected to the same LAN, except for speed. These days LANs operate at 100 MBits/second. VPNs are much slower - perhaps around 0.5/0.1 MBits/s. The first figure is the download speed, the second the upload speed. Check your ADSL plan to see what you have.
Guest Blackberry Posted September 22, 2007 Posted September 22, 2007 Re: Remote Access between 2 x XP ADSL machines Hi Pegasus Many thanks for the feedback on this. I'm familiar with VPNs, but it always seems that people who use them always use 3rd party software/hardware, never the built-in XP method. Why is this case? Surely this XP method should work or is that asking too much? Is it simply a case of making sure both sites have static IPs from the ADSL provider, open up/port forward a designated port in both ADSL router/modems (this is what I'm going to get) and then start to link up using the XP connection wizard? Thanks "Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com> wrote in message news:uN756TS$HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... "Blackberry" <info@NoSpamIt.com> wrote in message news:ukyGmNS$HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > Hi All > > Just wondered if you had any ideas on this one. I have 2 x nursery > schools > that are 2 separate buildings, but are only the width of a road apart, ie > they are separated by a single road. > > We are looking to install ADSL at both sites and rather than email files > between sites or walk backwards and forwards across the road, we wanted to > put in place a sort of network link so that machines on both sites had a > designated shared 'folder' that they could drop things in and the other > site > could pick up - does that make sense? > > Basically if I was on a standard LAN and I had a shared folder others > could > have access to that shared folder only and drag and drop things in and > out. > What I want to do is extend that so that these sites have access this way > over ADSL/the Internet. > > Do you know of a way that I can do this? > > I've done the whole remote desktop thingy, but I want to be able to drop > stuff into a folder rather than take over somebody's desktop. > > Thanks > Yes, it can be done. It is referred to as a Virtual Private Network. All machines included in a VPN appear as if they were connected to the same LAN, except for speed. These days LANs operate at 100 MBits/second. VPNs are much slower - perhaps around 0.5/0.1 MBits/s. The first figure is the download speed, the second the upload speed. Check your ADSL plan to see what you have.
Guest Pegasus \(MVP\) Posted September 22, 2007 Posted September 22, 2007 Re: Remote Access between 2 x XP ADSL machines Some people prefer different functionality than the one included with the Windows VPN, others claim that the security of third-party VPNs is better. Perhaps some other respondent might comment on these aspects. Suffice it to say that the VPN that is native to Windows works very well. While a static external IP address for the VPN host makes things a little easier, it is not necessary. You can register a free domain name with a number of organisations such as dyndns.com, then instruct your ADSL router to update this domain name with your current IP address. If your router does not have this functionality then you can achieve the same with a service you run on your VPN host, e.g. dyndns-updater. Once the domain name is linked to your IP address, you refer to your VPN host site by its domain name instead of its IP address. "Blackberry" <info@NoSpamIt.com> wrote in message news:eZQs0yS$HHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Hi Pegasus > > Many thanks for the feedback on this. > > I'm familiar with VPNs, but it always seems that people who use them > always > use 3rd party software/hardware, never the built-in XP method. Why is > this > case? Surely this XP method should work or is that asking too much? Is > it > simply a case of making sure both sites have static IPs from the ADSL > provider, open up/port forward a designated port in both ADSL > router/modems > (this is what I'm going to get) and then start to link up using the XP > connection wizard? > > Thanks > > "Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com> wrote in message > news:uN756TS$HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > > "Blackberry" <info@NoSpamIt.com> wrote in message > news:ukyGmNS$HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> Hi All >> >> Just wondered if you had any ideas on this one. I have 2 x nursery >> schools >> that are 2 separate buildings, but are only the width of a road apart, ie >> they are separated by a single road. >> >> We are looking to install ADSL at both sites and rather than email files >> between sites or walk backwards and forwards across the road, we wanted >> to >> put in place a sort of network link so that machines on both sites had a >> designated shared 'folder' that they could drop things in and the other >> site >> could pick up - does that make sense? >> >> Basically if I was on a standard LAN and I had a shared folder others >> could >> have access to that shared folder only and drag and drop things in and >> out. >> What I want to do is extend that so that these sites have access this way >> over ADSL/the Internet. >> >> Do you know of a way that I can do this? >> >> I've done the whole remote desktop thingy, but I want to be able to drop >> stuff into a folder rather than take over somebody's desktop. >> >> Thanks >> > > Yes, it can be done. It is referred to as a Virtual Private Network. > All machines included in a VPN appear as if they were connected > to the same LAN, except for speed. These days LANs operate at > 100 MBits/second. VPNs are much slower - perhaps around 0.5/0.1 > MBits/s. The first figure is the download speed, the second the upload > speed. Check your ADSL plan to see what you have. > > >
Guest Elmo Posted September 22, 2007 Posted September 22, 2007 Re: Remote Access between 2 x XP ADSL machines Blackberry wrote: > Hi All > > Just wondered if you had any ideas on this one. I have 2 x nursery schools > that are 2 separate buildings, but are only the width of a road apart, ie > they are separated by a single road. > > We are looking to install ADSL at both sites and rather than email files > between sites or walk backwards and forwards across the road, we wanted to > put in place a sort of network link so that machines on both sites had a > designated shared 'folder' that they could drop things in and the other site > could pick up - does that make sense? > > Basically if I was on a standard LAN and I had a shared folder others could > have access to that shared folder only and drag and drop things in and out. > What I want to do is extend that so that these sites have access this way > over ADSL/the Internet. > > Do you know of a way that I can do this? > > I've done the whole remote desktop thingy, but I want to be able to drop > stuff into a folder rather than take over somebody's desktop. > > Thanks You might also consider a wireless router and network the two that way. Whether you would get a quality signal from across the road, I can't predict. -- Joe =o)
Guest smlunatick Posted September 24, 2007 Posted September 24, 2007 Re: Remote Access between 2 x XP ADSL machines On Sep 23, 12:20 am, Elmo <elmog...@iglou.invalid> wrote: > Blackberry wrote: > > Hi All > > > Just wondered if you had any ideas on this one. I have 2 x nursery schools > > that are 2 separate buildings, but are only the width of a road apart, ie > > they are separated by a single road. > > > We are looking to install ADSL at both sites and rather than email files > > between sites or walk backwards and forwards across the road, we wanted to > > put in place a sort of network link so that machines on both sites had a > > designated shared 'folder' that they could drop things in and the other site > > could pick up - does that make sense? > > > Basically if I was on a standard LAN and I had a shared folder others could > > have access to that shared folder only and drag and drop things in and out. > > What I want to do is extend that so that these sites have access this way > > over ADSL/the Internet. > > > Do you know of a way that I can do this? > > > I've done the whole remote desktop thingy, but I want to be able to drop > > stuff into a folder rather than take over somebody's desktop. > > > Thanks > > You might also consider a wireless router and network the two that way. > Whether you would get a quality signal from across the road, I can't > predict. > > -- > Joe =o) Wireless routers would not work well for networking two different buildings. The signals are just not reliable. There are specialized wireless methods of networking between two building that are way more reliable that the "standard" wireless routers you can find at any local store, Theses specialized wireless devices are sold by professional installers and can be very expensive. As for setting up a ADSL wired VPN, you need to know that Windows XP is limited. Windows XP Home does not have all the feature that XP Pro has for networking and XP Pro is limited to 10 "shares." at the same time.
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