Guest Steven Wabik Posted September 22, 2007 Posted September 22, 2007 does anyone know when the extimated release date of service pack 3 will be and what the possible included features updates might be if any?
Guest Tony Meloche Posted September 22, 2007 Posted September 22, 2007 Re: service pack 3 release date Steven Wabik wrote: > does anyone know when the extimated release date of service pack 3 will be > and what the possible included features updates might be if any? > > This is asked about 4-5 times a week, so I'll give you the short form: Microsoft says release is *scheduled* for "1st quarter of 2008". The overwhelming majority of it will be fixes and patches that have been downloading through Windows Update all along - if your computer is set up for automatic download. I'm not clear myself on what else may be in it. TOny
Guest Steven Wabik Posted September 22, 2007 Posted September 22, 2007 Re: service pack 3 release date well, thanks. i asked this in the news groups about 4 or more months back when i was beta testing vista and someone said the 2nd half of 2008. does microsoft keep changing thier mind on this like every few weeks or something? just wondering. i really hope service pack 3 comes out soon. i realy need it. right now there feels like there are like 100 or so downloads after sp2 is installed. and not everything seems to be availible on windows update. some you either have to call for or you have to go to the microsoft download center and search for. "Tony Meloche" <bombarde@i2k.com> wrote in message news:1190502932_947@sp6iad.superfeed.net... > Steven Wabik wrote: >> does anyone know when the extimated release date of service pack 3 will >> be and what the possible included features updates might be if any? > > This is asked about 4-5 times a week, so I'll give you the short form: > > Microsoft says release is *scheduled* for "1st quarter of 2008". > > The overwhelming majority of it will be fixes and patches that have been > downloading through Windows Update all along - if your computer is set up > for automatic download. > > I'm not clear myself on what else may be in it. > > TOny
Guest Uncle Grumpy Posted September 22, 2007 Posted September 22, 2007 Re: service pack 3 release date On Sep 22, 6:42 pm, "Steven Wabik" <Steven...@verizon.net> wrote: > well, thanks. i asked this in the news groups about 4 or more months back > when i was beta testing vista and someone said the 2nd half of 2008. does > microsoft keep changing thier mind on this like every few weeks or > something? just wondering. Keep wondering. And come back again in four months to ask again. > i really hope service pack 3 comes out soon. i realy need it. right now WHY? Haven't you been regularly updating your computer? If the answer is no, don't expect MS to correct your laziness.
Guest Steven Wabik Posted September 23, 2007 Posted September 23, 2007 Re: service pack 3 release date well, maybe we will all get luck and it might be out by then or so and i will not need to ask again. "Uncle Grumpy" <pauld1943@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1190505330.057620.11760@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com... > On Sep 22, 6:42 pm, "Steven Wabik" <Steven...@verizon.net> wrote: > >> well, thanks. i asked this in the news groups about 4 or more months back >> when i was beta testing vista and someone said the 2nd half of 2008. does >> microsoft keep changing thier mind on this like every few weeks or >> something? just wondering. > > Keep wondering. And come back again in four months to ask again. > >> i really hope service pack 3 comes out soon. i realy need it. right now > > WHY? > > Haven't you been regularly updating your computer? If the answer is > no, don't expect MS to correct your laziness. > >
Guest Ken Blake, MVP Posted September 23, 2007 Posted September 23, 2007 Re: service pack 3 release date On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 19:42:28 -0400, "Steven Wabik" <Stevenw45@verizon.net> wrote: > well, thanks. i asked this in the news groups about 4 or more months back > when i was beta testing vista and someone said the 2nd half of 2008. does > microsoft keep changing thier mind on this like every few weeks or > something? just wondering. No, it doesn't. Do not make the common mistake of confusing an estimate of when something will be available with a promise. > i really hope service pack 3 comes out soon. i realy need it. right now > there feels like there are like 100 or so downloads after sp2 is installed. > and not everything seems to be availible on windows update. some you either > have to call for or you have to go to the microsoft download center and > search for. > > "Tony Meloche" <bombarde@i2k.com> wrote in message > news:1190502932_947@sp6iad.superfeed.net... > > Steven Wabik wrote: > >> does anyone know when the extimated release date of service pack 3 will > >> be and what the possible included features updates might be if any? > > > > This is asked about 4-5 times a week, so I'll give you the short form: > > > > Microsoft says release is *scheduled* for "1st quarter of 2008". > > > > The overwhelming majority of it will be fixes and patches that have been > > downloading through Windows Update all along - if your computer is set up > > for automatic download. > > > > I'm not clear myself on what else may be in it. > > > > TOny > -- Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User Please Reply to the Newsgroup
Guest Steven Wabik Posted September 23, 2007 Posted September 23, 2007 Re: service pack 3 release date don't worry, i'm not making the mistake. not on this. i'm just hoping for the best. afterall XP is better than vista....lol. vista just has bugs that need to be worked out then maybe it can be labeled as a better operating system. but thats just my opinion of it. "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.am.invalid.domain> wrote in message news:7icbf3pkcnaev3bif4iee3mjftei6eiv6j@4ax.com... > On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 19:42:28 -0400, "Steven Wabik" > <Stevenw45@verizon.net> wrote: > >> well, thanks. i asked this in the news groups about 4 or more months back >> when i was beta testing vista and someone said the 2nd half of 2008. does >> microsoft keep changing thier mind on this like every few weeks or >> something? just wondering. > > > No, it doesn't. Do not make the common mistake of confusing an > estimate of when something will be available with a promise. > > > >> i really hope service pack 3 comes out soon. i realy need it. right now >> there feels like there are like 100 or so downloads after sp2 is >> installed. >> and not everything seems to be availible on windows update. some you >> either >> have to call for or you have to go to the microsoft download center and >> search for. >> >> "Tony Meloche" <bombarde@i2k.com> wrote in message >> news:1190502932_947@sp6iad.superfeed.net... >> > Steven Wabik wrote: >> >> does anyone know when the extimated release date of service pack 3 >> >> will >> >> be and what the possible included features updates might be if any? >> > >> > This is asked about 4-5 times a week, so I'll give you the short form: >> > >> > Microsoft says release is *scheduled* for "1st quarter of 2008". >> > >> > The overwhelming majority of it will be fixes and patches that have >> > been >> > downloading through Windows Update all along - if your computer is set >> > up >> > for automatic download. >> > >> > I'm not clear myself on what else may be in it. >> > >> > TOny >> > > -- > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User > Please Reply to the Newsgroup
Guest Timothy Daniels Posted September 23, 2007 Posted September 23, 2007 Re: service pack 3 release date "Uncle Grumpy" whyed: >> i really hope service pack 3 comes out soon. i realy need it. right now > > WHY? > > Haven't you been regularly updating your computer? If the answer is > no, don't expect MS to correct your laziness. Maybe the guy has to re-install his Windows XP and would rather not have to download and install all those pathes. *TimDaniels*
Guest Steven Wabik Posted September 23, 2007 Posted September 23, 2007 Re: service pack 3 release date who knows? there are like 100+ hotfixes after sp2 is installed. (preinstalled or not.) hopefully preinstalled...lol i think everyone wants sp3 so they don't have to deal with them all. "Timothy Daniels" <NoSpam@SpamMeNot.com> wrote in message news:Oolhx6X$HHA.4828@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > "Uncle Grumpy" whyed: >>> i really hope service pack 3 comes out soon. i realy need it. right now >> >> WHY? >> >> Haven't you been regularly updating your computer? If the answer is >> no, don't expect MS to correct your laziness. > > > Maybe the guy has to re-install his Windows XP and would rather > not have to download and install all those pathes. > > *TimDaniels* >
Guest Ken Blake, MVP Posted September 23, 2007 Posted September 23, 2007 Re: service pack 3 release date On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 20:52:50 -0400, "Steven Wabik" <Stevenw45@verizon.net> wrote: > don't worry, I wasn't worried. > i'm not making the mistake. not on this. Well when you ask "does microsoft keep changing thier mind on this like every few weeks or something?" it sure sounds to me like you're making that mistake. They can't change their mind if they haven't promised anything. > i'm just hoping for > the best. afterall XP is better than vista....lol. That's your view. It's not mine. > vista just has bugs that > need to be worked out then maybe it can be labeled as a better operating > system. but thats just my opinion of it. Right. it's your opinion. As I said, it's not mine. Do you run Vista Have you run Vista? I'm happy with it here. > "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.am.invalid.domain> wrote in message > news:7icbf3pkcnaev3bif4iee3mjftei6eiv6j@4ax.com... > > On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 19:42:28 -0400, "Steven Wabik" > > <Stevenw45@verizon.net> wrote: > > > >> well, thanks. i asked this in the news groups about 4 or more months back > >> when i was beta testing vista and someone said the 2nd half of 2008. does > >> microsoft keep changing thier mind on this like every few weeks or > >> something? just wondering. > > > > > > No, it doesn't. Do not make the common mistake of confusing an > > estimate of when something will be available with a promise. > > > > > > > >> i really hope service pack 3 comes out soon. i realy need it. right now > >> there feels like there are like 100 or so downloads after sp2 is > >> installed. > >> and not everything seems to be availible on windows update. some you > >> either > >> have to call for or you have to go to the microsoft download center and > >> search for. > >> > >> "Tony Meloche" <bombarde@i2k.com> wrote in message > >> news:1190502932_947@sp6iad.superfeed.net... > >> > Steven Wabik wrote: > >> >> does anyone know when the extimated release date of service pack 3 > >> >> will > >> >> be and what the possible included features updates might be if any? > >> > > >> > This is asked about 4-5 times a week, so I'll give you the short form: > >> > > >> > Microsoft says release is *scheduled* for "1st quarter of 2008". > >> > > >> > The overwhelming majority of it will be fixes and patches that have > >> > been > >> > downloading through Windows Update all along - if your computer is set > >> > up > >> > for automatic download. > >> > > >> > I'm not clear myself on what else may be in it. > >> > > >> > TOny > >> > > > > -- > > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User > > Please Reply to the Newsgroup > -- Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User Please Reply to the Newsgroup
Guest Steven Wabik Posted September 23, 2007 Posted September 23, 2007 Re: service pack 3 release date i had a tx1000z with vista on it but i returned it after a week because of application compatility problems. it just bothered me to much. i also tested the beta and the weird thing was that the beta had less issues in certian places. i'm sure that others are happy with vista though. i'm sortta a perfectionist in a way when it comes to computers. i need to have everything working the way i want it to or else it will bother the heck outta me. in beta programs i don't really care. i exchanged it for a tc4400 with windows XP on it.:) "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.am.invalid.domain> wrote in message news:0qhbf3p697bc4h85q4836qkeqc4vssjib8@4ax.com... > On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 20:52:50 -0400, "Steven Wabik" > <Stevenw45@verizon.net> wrote: > >> don't worry, > > > I wasn't worried. > > >> i'm not making the mistake. not on this. > > > Well when you ask "does microsoft keep changing thier mind on this > like every few weeks or something?" it sure sounds to me like you're > making that mistake. They can't change their mind if they haven't > promised anything. > > > >> i'm just hoping for >> the best. afterall XP is better than vista....lol. > > > > That's your view. It's not mine. > > >> vista just has bugs that >> need to be worked out then maybe it can be labeled as a better operating >> system. but thats just my opinion of it. > > > > Right. it's your opinion. As I said, it's not mine. Do you run Vista > Have you run Vista? I'm happy with it here. > > >> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.am.invalid.domain> wrote in message >> news:7icbf3pkcnaev3bif4iee3mjftei6eiv6j@4ax.com... >> > On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 19:42:28 -0400, "Steven Wabik" >> > <Stevenw45@verizon.net> wrote: >> > >> >> well, thanks. i asked this in the news groups about 4 or more months >> >> back >> >> when i was beta testing vista and someone said the 2nd half of 2008. >> >> does >> >> microsoft keep changing thier mind on this like every few weeks or >> >> something? just wondering. >> > >> > >> > No, it doesn't. Do not make the common mistake of confusing an >> > estimate of when something will be available with a promise. >> > >> > >> > >> >> i really hope service pack 3 comes out soon. i realy need it. right >> >> now >> >> there feels like there are like 100 or so downloads after sp2 is >> >> installed. >> >> and not everything seems to be availible on windows update. some you >> >> either >> >> have to call for or you have to go to the microsoft download center >> >> and >> >> search for. >> >> >> >> "Tony Meloche" <bombarde@i2k.com> wrote in message >> >> news:1190502932_947@sp6iad.superfeed.net... >> >> > Steven Wabik wrote: >> >> >> does anyone know when the extimated release date of service pack 3 >> >> >> will >> >> >> be and what the possible included features updates might be if any? >> >> > >> >> > This is asked about 4-5 times a week, so I'll give you the short >> >> > form: >> >> > >> >> > Microsoft says release is *scheduled* for "1st quarter of 2008". >> >> > >> >> > The overwhelming majority of it will be fixes and patches that have >> >> > been >> >> > downloading through Windows Update all along - if your computer is >> >> > set >> >> > up >> >> > for automatic download. >> >> > >> >> > I'm not clear myself on what else may be in it. >> >> > >> >> > TOny >> >> >> > >> > -- >> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User >> > Please Reply to the Newsgroup >> > > -- > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User > Please Reply to the Newsgroup
Guest SAM-R Posted September 23, 2007 Posted September 23, 2007 Re: service pack 3 release date Are you asking when XP SP3 will RTM, or when the XP SP3 Beta will start? XP SP3 is tied to the Server 2008 Beta and the Vista SP1 Beta in that all 3 will include some new Networking updates. http://www.microsoft.com/technet/network/nap/napfaq.mspx "Steven Wabik" <Stevenw45@verizon.net> wrote in message news:%23tiL61W$HHA.4568@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > does anyone know when the extimated release date of service pack 3 will be > and what the possible included features updates might be if any? >
Guest jim w Posted September 23, 2007 Posted September 23, 2007 Re: service pack 3 release date > > Haven't you been regularly updating your computer? If the answer is > no, don't expect MS to correct your laziness. > >Some of us need a sp3 because we can only get dialup and would take 3 >months on line to ketsup. why do you have to be a smart a....?? your post now blocked -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
Guest Thee Chicago Wolf Posted September 23, 2007 Posted September 23, 2007 Re: service pack 3 release date >does anyone know when the extimated release date of service pack 3 will be >and what the possible included features updates might be if any? A couple of Microsoft folks let slip the release date as potentially being by the years end but who knows. A first beta was supposed to be out by the middle of this month but it's still not out. Some other have speculated that the release of XP SP3 and Vista SP1 will be around the same time and pre-empt Server 2008 because of the new features being added to XP SP3 in the way of NAP. - Thee Chicago Wolf
Guest Thee Chicago Wolf Posted September 23, 2007 Posted September 23, 2007 Re: service pack 3 release date >i had a tx1000z with vista on it but i returned it after a week because of >application compatility problems. it just bothered me to much. i also tested >the beta and the weird thing was that the beta had less issues in certian >places. > >i'm sure that others are happy with vista though. i'm sortta a perfectionist >in a way when it comes to computers. i need to have everything working the >way i want it to or else it will bother the heck outta me. in beta programs >i don't really care. It's been a while since I've re-installed XP with SP2 slipstreamed because it IS a hassle to get all the little updates from WU not to mention non-WU patches for other odd problems. It'll be nice to slipstream SP3 and finally be able to do a re-install. You are aware of things like Ryan VMs update packs, right? Officially, Microsoft's web page says 1st half 2008, that officially means Jan 1st or June 30th (and all dates in between). So it's either 3 months away or, as far as I am concerned, when server 2008 hits RTM. It's more contingent on that release than whatever's on their web site. We've all waited since 2004 and lots of pushed-back release date so what's a few more months. - Thee Chicago Wolf
Guest Ken Blake, MVP Posted September 23, 2007 Posted September 23, 2007 Re: service pack 3 release date On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 10:10:03 -0500, Thee Chicago Wolf <.@.> wrote: > Officially, Microsoft's > web page says 1st half 2008, that officially means Jan 1st or June > 30th (and all dates in between). So it's either 3 months away No, it does *not* officially mean that. That "first half of 2008" is an *estimate*, not a promise. > We've all waited since 2004 and lots of pushed-back release > date so what's a few more months. No, there have been *no* pushed-back release dates. No date has ever been announced. You are again confusing estimates with promises. Personally I wish Microsoft would never publish these estimated dates. All they do is confuse people, who too often treat them as promises. -- Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User Please Reply to the Newsgroup
Guest Thee Chicago Wolf Posted September 23, 2007 Posted September 23, 2007 Re: service pack 3 release date >> Officially, Microsoft's >> web page says 1st half 2008, that officially means Jan 1st or June >> 30th (and all dates in between). So it's either 3 months away > >No, it does *not* officially mean that. That "first half of 2008" is >an *estimate*, not a promise. I don't mean to feed the trolls but, what exactly does the 1st half of 2008 mean? January 1st until June 30th is the 1st half of any year. I don't know what calendar you own, but mine doesn't promise but guarantees me that Jan 1st through June 30th will be the 1st half of the year. You do know it is well documented since at least 2005 of the release date of SP3 and it continuously kept being postponed as Vista was being hyped, pruned, plucked, scrapped, and then re-written again, right? There are dozens if not a hundred tech, editorial, blog, and news sites that have this fact historically documented. The Microsoft Service Pack Road Map schedule web site has been updated MANY times with the date change and release for SP3. The only fact one can garner from that web site is that the SP3 date is "preliminary." Preliminary is more an estimate and less of a promise. Some historical information: From Softpedia in 2007: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Windows-XP-SP-3-Is-Dead-Long-Live-Windows-Vista-SP1-55518.shtml From the Washington Post from October 2006: http://blog.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2006/10/microsoft_delays_windowx_xp_se.html From Dailytech, Jan 2006: http://www.dailytech.com/Windows+XP+SP3+to+Set+Sail+in+2H+07/article325.htm From the very respected Mary Jo Foley from Jan 2006:http://www.microsoft-watch.com/content/operating_systems/windows_xp_service_pack_3_not_until_2007.html?kc=MWRSS0%25202129TX1K0000535 From CNET News.com from 2005: http://www.news.com/Microsoft-confirms-next-XP-service-pack/2100-1016_3-5886274.html >> We've all waited since 2004 and lots of pushed-back release >> date so what's a few more months. > >No, there have been *no* pushed-back release dates. No date has ever >been announced. You are again confusing estimates with promises. > >Personally I wish Microsoft would never publish these estimated dates. >All they do is confuse people, who too often treat them as promises. Again, see above. By release date, I guess it cannot ever be said that a specific *date* was give but release schedules were. Don't blame Microsoft, blame their Executives and Management's lack of competency in product and service delivery. Or just blame Ballmer because he's the one who said it would ship before Vista on numerous occasions. If, like the rest of us, you feel that SP1 for Vista will actually make RTM Gold, then yes, if SP3 ships before Vista SP1, he's not going to be a liar after all. - Thee Chicago Wolf
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