Guest Jerry Posted September 23, 2007 Posted September 23, 2007 Hi all, Does anybody have any experience with Windows Security Alerts (the red shield on the system tray) not working if the Terminal Services service isn't running? I like to have the alerts on just in case something goes wrong such as my antivirus program doesn't start properly. I was contemplating disabling the Terminal Services service because I don't believe I need it. However, when it's disabled and the computer is restarted (to stop the service), the Windows Security Alerts don't come up. I test the alerts by turning off Automatic Updates and making sure the Windows Security Alerts are configured to warn me if Automatic Updates is not on. I do have the Security Center service set to Automatic, and it is running as expected. I also have several other services not set to Windows default. However, I can duplicate this every time by changing the startup mode of Terminal Services and restarting. The restart is required because once you start Terminal Services, you can't safely stop it. If anyone has info related to this, I'd appreciate seeing it. Thanks, Jerry
Guest PA Bear Posted September 23, 2007 Posted September 23, 2007 Re: Terminal Services service and Windows Security Alerts We saw your first post about this, Jerry. Jerry wrote: > Does anybody have any experience with Windows Security Alerts (the red > shield on the system tray) not working if the Terminal Services service > isn't running? I like to have the alerts on just in case something goes > wrong such as my antivirus program doesn't start properly. I was > contemplating disabling the Terminal Services service because I don't > believe I need it. However, when it's disabled and the computer is > restarted (to stop the service), the Windows Security Alerts don't come > up. > I test the alerts by turning off Automatic Updates and making sure the > Windows Security Alerts are configured to warn me if Automatic Updates is > not on. I do have the Security Center service set to Automatic, and it is > running as expected. I also have several other services not set to > Windows > default. However, I can duplicate this every time by changing the startup > mode of Terminal Services and restarting. The restart is required because > once you start Terminal Services, you can't safely stop it. > > If anyone has info related to this, I'd appreciate seeing it. > > Thanks, > Jerry
Guest Lanwench [MVP - Exchange] Posted September 24, 2007 Posted September 24, 2007 Re: Terminal Services service and Windows Security Alerts Jerry <Jerry@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > Does anybody have any experience with Windows Security Alerts (the > red shield on the system tray) not working if the Terminal Services > service isn't running? I like to have the alerts on just in case > something goes wrong such as my antivirus program doesn't start > properly. I was contemplating disabling the Terminal Services > service because I don't believe I need it. However, when it's > disabled and the computer is restarted (to stop the service), the > Windows Security Alerts don't come up. I test the alerts by turning > off Automatic Updates and making sure the Windows Security Alerts are > configured to warn me if Automatic Updates is not on. I do have the > Security Center service set to Automatic, and it is running as > expected. I also have several other services not set to Windows > default. However, I can duplicate this every time by changing the > startup mode of Terminal Services and restarting. The restart is > required because once you start Terminal Services, you can't safely > stop it. > > If anyone has info related to this, I'd appreciate seeing it. > > Thanks, > Jerry Haven't seen this, but I wouldn't bother disabling the service (or any of the built-in services unless you really know what you're about) as it's not likely to make much of a performance hit, nor will disabling it represent a security problem if you haven't allowed that traffic into your network or through your firewall anyway. It's likely to do with one of the dependencies. Personally, I'd leave it be.
Guest Jerry Posted September 24, 2007 Posted September 24, 2007 Re: Terminal Services service and Windows Security Alerts Yes, I figured. However, nobody responded, so I reposted in this group along with several others, which may be more appropriate to the content. It's easier to track responses that way. "PA Bear" wrote: > We saw your first post about this, Jerry. > > Jerry wrote: > > Does anybody have any experience with Windows Security Alerts (the red > > shield on the system tray) not working if the Terminal Services service > > isn't running? I like to have the alerts on just in case something goes > > wrong such as my antivirus program doesn't start properly. I was > > contemplating disabling the Terminal Services service because I don't > > believe I need it. However, when it's disabled and the computer is > > restarted (to stop the service), the Windows Security Alerts don't come > > up. > > I test the alerts by turning off Automatic Updates and making sure the > > Windows Security Alerts are configured to warn me if Automatic Updates is > > not on. I do have the Security Center service set to Automatic, and it is > > running as expected. I also have several other services not set to > > Windows > > default. However, I can duplicate this every time by changing the startup > > mode of Terminal Services and restarting. The restart is required because > > once you start Terminal Services, you can't safely stop it. > > > > If anyone has info related to this, I'd appreciate seeing it. > > > > Thanks, > > Jerry > >
Guest Jerry Posted September 24, 2007 Posted September 24, 2007 Re: Terminal Services service and Windows Security Alerts Lanwench, Thanks for the reply. Certainly, I don't believe that leaving it running would be too much of a risk. I'm more interested in the fact that there is some connection between the Terminal Services service and the Windows Security Alerts. I've done some searching and have not found anything that mentions this situation. I'm surprised by that. Jerry "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]" wrote: > Jerry <Jerry@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > Does anybody have any experience with Windows Security Alerts (the > > red shield on the system tray) not working if the Terminal Services > > service isn't running? I like to have the alerts on just in case > > something goes wrong such as my antivirus program doesn't start > > properly. I was contemplating disabling the Terminal Services > > service because I don't believe I need it. However, when it's > > disabled and the computer is restarted (to stop the service), the > > Windows Security Alerts don't come up. I test the alerts by turning > > off Automatic Updates and making sure the Windows Security Alerts are > > configured to warn me if Automatic Updates is not on. I do have the > > Security Center service set to Automatic, and it is running as > > expected. I also have several other services not set to Windows > > default. However, I can duplicate this every time by changing the > > startup mode of Terminal Services and restarting. The restart is > > required because once you start Terminal Services, you can't safely > > stop it. > > > > If anyone has info related to this, I'd appreciate seeing it. > > > > Thanks, > > Jerry > > Haven't seen this, but I wouldn't bother disabling the service (or any of > the built-in services unless you really know what you're about) as it's not > likely to make much of a performance hit, nor will disabling it represent a > security problem if you haven't allowed that traffic into your network or > through your firewall anyway. It's likely to do with one of the > dependencies. Personally, I'd leave it be. > > >
Guest Lanwench [MVP - Exchange] Posted September 24, 2007 Posted September 24, 2007 Re: Terminal Services service and Windows Security Alerts Jerry <Jerry@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > Lanwench, > > Thanks for the reply. Certainly, I don't believe that leaving it > running would be too much of a risk. I'm more interested in the fact > that there is some connection between the Terminal Services service > and the Windows Security Alerts. I've done some searching and have > not found anything that mentions this situation. I'm surprised by > that. You might search for the *dependencies* as that may be the crux of the issue. > > Jerry > > "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]" wrote: > >> Jerry <Jerry@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Does anybody have any experience with Windows Security Alerts (the >>> red shield on the system tray) not working if the Terminal Services >>> service isn't running? I like to have the alerts on just in case >>> something goes wrong such as my antivirus program doesn't start >>> properly. I was contemplating disabling the Terminal Services >>> service because I don't believe I need it. However, when it's >>> disabled and the computer is restarted (to stop the service), the >>> Windows Security Alerts don't come up. I test the alerts by turning >>> off Automatic Updates and making sure the Windows Security Alerts >>> are configured to warn me if Automatic Updates is not on. I do >>> have the Security Center service set to Automatic, and it is >>> running as expected. I also have several other services not set to >>> Windows default. However, I can duplicate this every time by >>> changing the startup mode of Terminal Services and restarting. The >>> restart is required because once you start Terminal Services, you >>> can't safely stop it. >>> >>> If anyone has info related to this, I'd appreciate seeing it. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Jerry >> >> Haven't seen this, but I wouldn't bother disabling the service (or >> any of the built-in services unless you really know what you're >> about) as it's not likely to make much of a performance hit, nor >> will disabling it represent a security problem if you haven't >> allowed that traffic into your network or through your firewall >> anyway. It's likely to do with one of the dependencies. Personally, >> I'd leave it be.
Guest Jerry Posted September 24, 2007 Posted September 24, 2007 Re: Terminal Services service and Windows Security Alerts I had looked at the dependent services, and nothing stands out. The Security Center service does not depend on Terminal Services. If there is a dependency issue with the Windows Security Alerts, then it's deeper than a straight service dependency and I'm not sure where to find it. Thanks again, Jerry "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]" wrote: > Jerry <Jerry@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > > Lanwench, > > > > Thanks for the reply. Certainly, I don't believe that leaving it > > running would be too much of a risk. I'm more interested in the fact > > that there is some connection between the Terminal Services service > > and the Windows Security Alerts. I've done some searching and have > > not found anything that mentions this situation. I'm surprised by > > that. > > You might search for the *dependencies* as that may be the crux of the > issue. > > > > Jerry > > > > "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]" wrote: > > > >> Jerry <Jerry@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > >>> Hi all, > >>> > >>> Does anybody have any experience with Windows Security Alerts (the > >>> red shield on the system tray) not working if the Terminal Services > >>> service isn't running? I like to have the alerts on just in case > >>> something goes wrong such as my antivirus program doesn't start > >>> properly. I was contemplating disabling the Terminal Services > >>> service because I don't believe I need it. However, when it's > >>> disabled and the computer is restarted (to stop the service), the > >>> Windows Security Alerts don't come up. I test the alerts by turning > >>> off Automatic Updates and making sure the Windows Security Alerts > >>> are configured to warn me if Automatic Updates is not on. I do > >>> have the Security Center service set to Automatic, and it is > >>> running as expected. I also have several other services not set to > >>> Windows default. However, I can duplicate this every time by > >>> changing the startup mode of Terminal Services and restarting. The > >>> restart is required because once you start Terminal Services, you > >>> can't safely stop it. > >>> > >>> If anyone has info related to this, I'd appreciate seeing it. > >>> > >>> Thanks, > >>> Jerry > >> > >> Haven't seen this, but I wouldn't bother disabling the service (or > >> any of the built-in services unless you really know what you're > >> about) as it's not likely to make much of a performance hit, nor > >> will disabling it represent a security problem if you haven't > >> allowed that traffic into your network or through your firewall > >> anyway. It's likely to do with one of the dependencies. Personally, > >> I'd leave it be. > > > >
Guest Lanwench [MVP - Exchange] Posted September 24, 2007 Posted September 24, 2007 Re: Terminal Services service and Windows Security Alerts Jerry <Jerry@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > I had looked at the dependent services, and nothing stands out. The > Security Center service does not depend on Terminal Services. If > there is a dependency issue with the Windows Security Alerts, then > it's deeper than a straight service dependency and I'm not sure where > to find it. > > Thanks again, > Jerry Sorry I don't have the answer :(
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