Guest Glider Flyboy Posted September 24, 2007 Posted September 24, 2007 Re: Can't connect to www.google.com "Glider Flyboy" wrote: > I still have the same Compaq Presario laptop. Still cannot connect to google > unless I go to a hotspot. This condition has now lasted 16 months. I gave up > quite a while ago after an exhaustive struggle. So many contradictory > symptoms have occurred that it's impossible for me to deduce the cause. But > two factors cause me to lean toward the problem being the bluetooth to GPRS > connection. 1- I can connect when on WI-FI, and 2- a T-Mobile technical > support person told me that there are a number of other T-Mobile customers > with the same problem. > > I am on the verge of signing up for cable high speed. If I do sign up, then > my budget will force me to drop T-Mobile; then the only means of connecting > on the road will be any free or open wi-fi that I can find. > > I'm sorry that I can't be of any help to others with the same problem. I do > have some questions to ask each of those others: Are you a T-Mobile customer? > Do you have a bluetooth cellphone that can also perform as a modem, and do > you connect to your computer via bluetooth instead of a cable? Have you ever > visited the googlewatch website? My answer to all of these questions is > "yes". Could the problem be somewhere in these factors? > > "Peakock" wrote: > > > I seem to have a similar problem. I have a gprs connection to the internet > > (Panasonic P341i). Most websites work fine. Except when I try to load > > http://www.google.com the browser wants to download 'wml' from http://www.google.com > > instead of opening the page. Same thing happens when I want to open my emails > > from hotmail (download hmhome). > > ??? > > > > "Lightwave" wrote: > > > > > Can you still connect to Google? I have T-Mobile GPRS with a Sierra 750 > > > PCMCIA card and have been having the exact same issues you are stating > > > with http://www.google.com. Every other web site I try loads but Google just > > > hangs. My wi-fi can load Google with no problem. I have run ad-aware > > > and cleaned my system (only tracking cookies were found) and the > > > problem still persists. I am running XP Home on a Fujitsu P5020D laptop. > > > > > > Here it is September 23, 2007, almost two years later, and reading back over all these messages, I have an angry feeling. So much struggle is due to the enormous indifference of providers of technology hardware and services. At least a year ago, probably more, I began to assemble in my mind all the comments that I read and heard, about how connections are made to websites. After so much time, I don't remember what specifically caused me to arrive at this conclusion: Some websites, especially very busy ones, will not wait for slow connections to function; instead, they will "bump" the request to "the end of the line". This will be repeated endlessly. The fact that I had no trouble when I used a much higher speed wi-fi connection should have indicated that the problem was the slow speed of the connection. If, in fact, this is the case, then the user of a slow speed connection is left with an inability to connect. Again, if this is the reason for my trouble, then I cannot excuse the disgraceful indifference of all the leaders of all the businesses that sell hardware and services to millions of consumers. They certainly are in a better position to know what's going on than the consumer. If I had been informed of the characteristics of connecting, I would not have expended so very much time struggling to solve an unknown problem. I would not have had to prevail upon the generous help from several more experienced individuals. When T-Mobile and Google "technical support" were contacted, no mention was made of the "bumping" of slow connections. There is too much indifference in this world to the sensibilities of others.
Guest Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM Posted September 24, 2007 Posted September 24, 2007 Re: Can't connect to www.google.com Re: Can't connect to www.google.com "Glider Flyboy" <GliderFlyboy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:107CE647-0935-478D-8BD4-1C1E0B905935@microsoft.com... > Here it is September 23, 2007, almost two years later, and reading back over all these messages, I have an angry feeling. So much struggle is due to the enormous indifference of providers of technology hardware and services. At least a year ago, probably more, I began to assemble in my mind all the comments that I read and heard, about how connections are made to websites. After so much time, I don't remember what specifically caused me to arrive at this conclusion: Some websites, especially very busy ones, will not wait for slow connections to function; instead, they will "bump" the request to "the end of the line". This will be repeated endlessly. The fact that I had no trouble when I used a much higher speed wi-fi connection should have indicated that the problem was the slow speed of the connection. If, in fact, this is the case, then the user of a slow speed connection is left with an inability to connect. Again, if this is the reason for my trouble, then I cannot excuse > the disgraceful indifference of all the leaders of all the businesses that > sell hardware and services to millions of consumers. They certainly are in > a better position to know what's going on than the consumer. If I had been > informed of the characteristics of connecting, I would not have expended > so very much time struggling to solve an unknown problem. I would not have > had to prevail upon the generous help from several more experienced > individuals. When T-Mobile and Google "technical support" were contacted, > no mention was made of the "bumping" of slow connections. There is too > much indifference in this world to the sensibilities of others. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I have about as slow a connection as I've heard of in the last five or ten years (21.6 kbps right now) and I've had no such problems. I have no idea what is causing your problems. While I agree that most sites have too much fluff to be downloaded, that is certainly not the fault of the hardware manufacturers. I could blame the phone and cable companies for not getting DSL or cable out to us yet, though. -- Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM I don't answer email.
Guest Glider Flyboy Posted September 24, 2007 Posted September 24, 2007 Re: Can't connect to www.google.com Re: Can't connect to www.google.com "Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" wrote: > "Glider Flyboy" <GliderFlyboy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:107CE647-0935-478D-8BD4-1C1E0B905935@microsoft.com... > > > Here it is September 23, 2007, almost two years later, and reading back > over all these messages, I have an angry feeling. So much struggle is due to > the enormous indifference of providers of technology hardware and services. > At least a year ago, probably more, I began to assemble in my mind all the > comments that I read and heard, about how connections are made to websites. > After so much time, I don't remember what specifically caused me to arrive > at this conclusion: Some websites, especially very busy ones, will not wait > for slow connections to function; instead, they will "bump" the request to > "the end of the line". This will be repeated endlessly. The fact that I had > no trouble when I used a much higher speed wi-fi connection should have > indicated that the problem was the slow speed of the connection. If, in > fact, this is the case, then the user of a slow speed connection is left > with an inability to connect. Again, if this is the reason for my trouble, > then I cannot excuse > > the disgraceful indifference of all the leaders of all the businesses that > > sell hardware and services to millions of consumers. They certainly are in > > a better position to know what's going on than the consumer. If I had been > > informed of the characteristics of connecting, I would not have expended > > so very much time struggling to solve an unknown problem. I would not have > > had to prevail upon the generous help from several more experienced > > individuals. When T-Mobile and Google "technical support" were contacted, > > no mention was made of the "bumping" of slow connections. There is too > > much indifference in this world to the sensibilities of others. > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > I have about as slow a connection as I've heard of in the last five or ten > years (21.6 kbps right now) and I've had no such problems. I have no idea > what is causing your problems. While I agree that most sites have too much > fluff to be downloaded, that is certainly not the fault of the hardware > manufacturers. I could blame the phone and cable companies for not getting > DSL or cable out to us yet, though. > > -- > Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM > I don't answer email. > It's been about four years since the beginning of my problem connecting to Google and several other sites. In four years websites have changed a great deal. As an example, Hotmail now allows two-thousand-five-hundred times as much storage than they did four years ago. I wonder if Google's connection features are very different today than they were then. Perhaps today, if I had the same slow connection that I had four years ago, it would work.
Guest Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM Posted September 24, 2007 Posted September 24, 2007 Re: Can't connect to www.google.com Re: Can't connect to www.google.com "Glider Flyboy" <GliderFlyboy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:FE1805C4-8033-446A-ACE2-EA0C8F4048E4@microsoft.com... > > > "Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" wrote: > >> "Glider Flyboy" <GliderFlyboy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:107CE647-0935-478D-8BD4-1C1E0B905935@microsoft.com... >> > >> Here it is September 23, 2007, almost two years later, and reading back >> over all these messages, I have an angry feeling. So much struggle is due >> to >> the enormous indifference of providers of technology hardware and >> services. >> At least a year ago, probably more, I began to assemble in my mind all >> the >> comments that I read and heard, about how connections are made to >> websites. >> After so much time, I don't remember what specifically caused me to >> arrive >> at this conclusion: Some websites, especially very busy ones, will not >> wait >> for slow connections to function; instead, they will "bump" the request >> to >> "the end of the line". This will be repeated endlessly. The fact that I >> had >> no trouble when I used a much higher speed wi-fi connection should have >> indicated that the problem was the slow speed of the connection. If, in >> fact, this is the case, then the user of a slow speed connection is left >> with an inability to connect. Again, if this is the reason for my >> trouble, >> then I cannot excuse >> > the disgraceful indifference of all the leaders of all the businesses >> > that >> > sell hardware and services to millions of consumers. They certainly are >> > in >> > a better position to know what's going on than the consumer. If I had >> > been >> > informed of the characteristics of connecting, I would not have >> > expended >> > so very much time struggling to solve an unknown problem. I would not >> > have >> > had to prevail upon the generous help from several more experienced >> > individuals. When T-Mobile and Google "technical support" were >> > contacted, >> > no mention was made of the "bumping" of slow connections. There is too >> > much indifference in this world to the sensibilities of others. >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> I have about as slow a connection as I've heard of in the last five or >> ten >> years (21.6 kbps right now) and I've had no such problems. I have no >> idea >> what is causing your problems. While I agree that most sites have too >> much >> fluff to be downloaded, that is certainly not the fault of the hardware >> manufacturers. I could blame the phone and cable companies for not >> getting >> DSL or cable out to us yet, though. > > It's been about four years since the beginning of my problem connecting to > Google and several other sites. In four years websites have changed a > great > deal. As an example, Hotmail now allows two-thousand-five-hundred times as > much storage than they did four years ago. I wonder if Google's connection > features are very different today than they were then. Perhaps today, if I > had the same slow connection that I had four years ago, it would work. It's more likely that malware was preventing the connection with Google. -- Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM I don't answer email.
Guest Glider Flyboy Posted September 24, 2007 Posted September 24, 2007 Re: Can't connect to www.google.com Re: Can't connect to www.google.com "Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" wrote: > "Glider Flyboy" <GliderFlyboy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:FE1805C4-8033-446A-ACE2-EA0C8F4048E4@microsoft.com... > > > > > > "Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" wrote: > > > >> "Glider Flyboy" <GliderFlyboy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> news:107CE647-0935-478D-8BD4-1C1E0B905935@microsoft.com... > >> > > >> Here it is September 23, 2007, almost two years later, and reading back > >> over all these messages, I have an angry feeling. So much struggle is due > >> to > >> the enormous indifference of providers of technology hardware and > >> services. > >> At least a year ago, probably more, I began to assemble in my mind all > >> the > >> comments that I read and heard, about how connections are made to > >> websites. > >> After so much time, I don't remember what specifically caused me to > >> arrive > >> at this conclusion: Some websites, especially very busy ones, will not > >> wait > >> for slow connections to function; instead, they will "bump" the request > >> to > >> "the end of the line". This will be repeated endlessly. The fact that I > >> had > >> no trouble when I used a much higher speed wi-fi connection should have > >> indicated that the problem was the slow speed of the connection. If, in > >> fact, this is the case, then the user of a slow speed connection is left > >> with an inability to connect. Again, if this is the reason for my > >> trouble, > >> then I cannot excuse > >> > the disgraceful indifference of all the leaders of all the businesses > >> > that > >> > sell hardware and services to millions of consumers. They certainly are > >> > in > >> > a better position to know what's going on than the consumer. If I had > >> > been > >> > informed of the characteristics of connecting, I would not have > >> > expended > >> > so very much time struggling to solve an unknown problem. I would not > >> > have > >> > had to prevail upon the generous help from several more experienced > >> > individuals. When T-Mobile and Google "technical support" were > >> > contacted, > >> > no mention was made of the "bumping" of slow connections. There is too > >> > much indifference in this world to the sensibilities of others. > >> > >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> I have about as slow a connection as I've heard of in the last five or > >> ten > >> years (21.6 kbps right now) and I've had no such problems. I have no > >> idea > >> what is causing your problems. While I agree that most sites have too > >> much > >> fluff to be downloaded, that is certainly not the fault of the hardware > >> manufacturers. I could blame the phone and cable companies for not > >> getting > >> DSL or cable out to us yet, though. > > > > It's been about four years since the beginning of my problem connecting to > > Google and several other sites. In four years websites have changed a > > great > > deal. As an example, Hotmail now allows two-thousand-five-hundred times as > > much storage than they did four years ago. I wonder if Google's connection > > features are very different today than they were then. Perhaps today, if I > > had the same slow connection that I had four years ago, it would work. > > It's more likely that malware was preventing the connection with Google. > > -- > Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM > I don't answer email. > What I don't understand is, if it was malware, why was there no problem on a higher speed connection such as wi-fi and cable?
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