Guest penang@catholic.org Posted September 24, 2007 Posted September 24, 2007 Recently I had a disk crash. So I changed a new disk, re-installed my XP, got all the updates online, and then I went and bought the Norton Systemworks 2007. Installed it, got all the "liveupdate" that I need, and launch the thing. I have been a user of Norton Utilities ever since the DOS era, and have been a very satisfied customer, especially for Norton's Speed Disk utility. However, this time the darn thing just hang ! Yep, it went and did "defrag" for 4% and then stayed there. Nothing. I checked with the Task Manager (the ctrl-alt-del thingy on XP), I was told that SD was still "running". So I left the thing to "run", and boy did it "run" >From Saturday morning it ran until late nite, and I let it ran throughout the nite. Sunday morning, the Norton Systemworks 2007 Speed Disk still showed, would you believe it or not, "4%" !! Definitely the thing hang, but according the the Task Manager again, no, it's still "running". Don't know what the Norton people are doing nowadays. Feel kinda sad tho.
Guest db ´¯`·.. > Posted September 24, 2007 Posted September 24, 2007 Re: Norton Speed Disk Hang ! what are your virtual memory settings/size? -- db ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·..><)))º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><)))º>¸. ><)))º>·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. ><)))º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><)))º> .. <penang@catholic.org> wrote in message news:1190657539.146086.112060@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com... > Recently I had a disk crash. So I changed a new disk, re-installed my > XP, got all the updates online, and then I went and bought the Norton > Systemworks 2007. Installed it, got all the "liveupdate" that I need, > and launch the thing. > > I have been a user of Norton Utilities ever since the DOS era, and > have been a very satisfied customer, especially for Norton's Speed > Disk utility. However, this time the darn thing just hang ! > > Yep, it went and did "defrag" for 4% and then stayed there. Nothing. > > I checked with the Task Manager (the ctrl-alt-del thingy on XP), I was > told that SD was still "running". So I left the thing to "run", and > boy did it "run" > >>From Saturday morning it ran until late nite, and I let it ran > throughout the nite. Sunday morning, the Norton Systemworks 2007 Speed > Disk still showed, would you believe it or not, "4%" !! > > Definitely the thing hang, but according the the Task Manager again, > no, it's still "running". > > Don't know what the Norton people are doing nowadays. Feel kinda sad > tho. >
Guest VanguardLH Posted September 24, 2007 Posted September 24, 2007 Re: Norton Speed Disk Hang ! <penang@catholic.org> wrote in message news:1190657539.146086.112060@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com... > Recently I had a disk crash. So I changed a new disk, re-installed > my > XP, got all the updates online, and then I went and bought the > Norton > Systemworks 2007. Installed it, got all the "liveupdate" that I > need, > and launch the thing. > > I have been a user of Norton Utilities ever since the DOS era, and > have been a very satisfied customer, especially for Norton's Speed > Disk utility. However, this time the darn thing just hang ! > > Yep, it went and did "defrag" for 4% and then stayed there. Nothing. > > I checked with the Task Manager (the ctrl-alt-del thingy on XP), I > was > told that SD was still "running". So I left the thing to "run", and > boy did it "run" > >>From Saturday morning it ran until late nite, and I let it ran > throughout the nite. Sunday morning, the Norton Systemworks 2007 > Speed > Disk still showed, would you believe it or not, "4%" !! > > Definitely the thing hang, but according the the Task Manager again, > no, it's still "running". > > Don't know what the Norton people are doing nowadays. Feel kinda sad > tho. > http://www.symantec.com/home_homeoffice/support/productdetail/contact_ts.jsp?pvid=nsw_2007_prem They might be able to help.
Guest Trinny Posted September 24, 2007 Posted September 24, 2007 Re: Norton Speed Disk Hang ! penang@catholic.org wrote: > Recently I had a disk crash. So I changed a new disk, re-installed my > XP, got all the updates online, and then I went and bought the Norton > Systemworks 2007. Installed it, got all the "liveupdate" that I need, > and launch the thing. > > I have been a user of Norton Utilities ever since the DOS era, and > have been a very satisfied customer, especially for Norton's Speed > Disk utility. However, this time the darn thing just hang ! > > Yep, it went and did "defrag" for 4% and then stayed there. Nothing. > > I checked with the Task Manager (the ctrl-alt-del thingy on XP), I was > told that SD was still "running". So I left the thing to "run", and > boy did it "run" > >>From Saturday morning it ran until late nite, and I let it ran > throughout the nite. Sunday morning, the Norton Systemworks 2007 Speed > Disk still showed, would you believe it or not, "4%" !! > > Definitely the thing hang, but according the the Task Manager again, > no, it's still "running". > > Don't know what the Norton people are doing nowadays. Feel kinda sad > tho. Two lessons: Microsoft sucks. Norton sucks bigger. Nem
Guest Dave Posted September 24, 2007 Posted September 24, 2007 Re: Norton Speed Disk Hang ! Have you run disk doctor to make sure there aren't any problems with the disk? <penang@catholic.org> wrote in message news:1190657539.146086.112060@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com... > Recently I had a disk crash. So I changed a new disk, re-installed my > XP, got all the updates online, and then I went and bought the Norton > Systemworks 2007. Installed it, got all the "liveupdate" that I need, > and launch the thing. > > I have been a user of Norton Utilities ever since the DOS era, and > have been a very satisfied customer, especially for Norton's Speed > Disk utility. However, this time the darn thing just hang ! > > Yep, it went and did "defrag" for 4% and then stayed there. Nothing. > > I checked with the Task Manager (the ctrl-alt-del thingy on XP), I was > told that SD was still "running". So I left the thing to "run", and > boy did it "run" > >>From Saturday morning it ran until late nite, and I let it ran > throughout the nite. Sunday morning, the Norton Systemworks 2007 Speed > Disk still showed, would you believe it or not, "4%" !! > > Definitely the thing hang, but according the the Task Manager again, > no, it's still "running". > > Don't know what the Norton people are doing nowadays. Feel kinda sad > tho. >
Guest Kayman Posted September 25, 2007 Posted September 25, 2007 Re: Norton Speed Disk Hang ! On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 21:28:06 +0100, Trinny wrote: >> Recently I had a disk crash. So I changed a new disk, re-installed my >> XP, got all the updates online, and then I went and bought the Norton >> Systemworks 2007. Installed it, got all the "liveupdate" that I need, >> and launch the thing. >> >> I have been a user of Norton Utilities ever since the DOS era, and >> have been a very satisfied customer, especially for Norton's Speed >> Disk utility. However, this time the darn thing just hang ! >> >> Yep, it went and did "defrag" for 4% and then stayed there. Nothing. >> >> I checked with the Task Manager (the ctrl-alt-del thingy on XP), I was >> told that SD was still "running". So I left the thing to "run", and >> boy did it "run" >> >>>From Saturday morning it ran until late nite, and I let it ran >> throughout the nite. Sunday morning, the Norton Systemworks 2007 Speed >> Disk still showed, would you believe it or not, "4%" !! >> >> Definitely the thing hang, but according the the Task Manager again, >> no, it's still "running". >> >> Don't know what the Norton people are doing nowadays. Feel kinda sad >> tho. A number of experts agree that the retail AV version of McAfee, Norton and Trend Micro has become cumbersome and bloated for the average user. The retail version of Norton can play havoc with your pc. Uninstall it using Norton's own uninstall tool http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/tsgeninfo.nsf/docid/2005033108162039 and get a refund :) As suggested on the site, you may wish to print out the directions before proceeding. If this doesn't work use this: Revo Uninstaller Freeware - Remove unwanted programs and traces easily http://www.revouninstaller.com/ and/or RegSeeker http://www.hoverdesk.net/freeware.htm Then use NTREGOPT to compact the registry; Follow instructions. http://www.larshederer.homepage.t-online.de/erunt While Norton's removal tool usually gets the job done, you may also want to go to: http://www.snapfiles.com/get/winsockxpfix.html and download a copy of winsockxpfix just in case. Rarely, the removal of NIS breakes the networking components in XP to the point where internet access is impossible. This little utility will fix it back up. Do not utilize more than one (1) real-time anti-virus scanning engine! Disable the e-mail scanning function during installation (Custom Installation on some AV apps.) as it provides no additional protection. In fact, most of experts (incl. Norton) believe that scanning incoming and outgoing mail causes e-mail file corruption. Avira AntiVir® PersonalEdition Classic - Free http://www.free-av.com/antivirus/allinonen.html Free antivirus - avast! 4 Home Edition http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html (Choose Custom Installation and under Resident Protection, uncheck: Internet Mail and Outlook/Exchange.) AVG Anti-Virus Free Edition http://free.grisoft.com/ Kaspersky® Anti-Virus 7.0 - Not Free http://www.kaspersky.com/homeuser ESET NOD32 Antivirus - Not Free http://www.eset.com/ Have you seen these "extra settings for NOD32"? http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=37509 On-demand AV application (add it to your arsenal and use it as a "second opinion" av scanner). BitDefender10 Free Edition http://www.bitdefender.com/PRODUCT-14-en--BitDefender-8-Free-Edition.html A-S applications (grab'em all). The effectiveness of an individual AV A-S scanners can be wide-ranging and oftentimes a collection of scanners is best. There isn't one software that cleans and immunizes you against everything. That's why you need multiple products to do the job i.e. overlap their coverage - one may catch what another may miss. SuperAntispyware - Free http://www.superantispyware.com/superantispywarefreevspro.html Ad-Aware - Free http://www.lavasoftusa.com/products/ad_aware_free.php http://www.download.com/3000-2144-10045910.html Spybot Search & Destroy - Free http://www.safer-networking.org/en/download/index.html (I don't use the Immunisation function and TeaTimer application) Windows Defender _ Free http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/software/default.mspx Interesting reading: http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,136195/article.html "...Windows Defender did excel in behavior-based protection, which detects changes to key areas of the system without having to know anything about the actual threat." Some more useful applications: Spyware Blaster - Free http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareblaster.html Rootkit Revealer - Free http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/Utilities/RootkitRevealer.mspx Crap Cleaner _ Free http://www.filehippo.com/download_ccleaner/ If Windows Defender is utilized go to Applications, under Utilities uncheck "Windows Defender" CW Shredder - Free http://www.softpedia.com/get/Internet/Popup-Ad-Spyware-Blockers/CWShredder.shtml Good luck :)
Guest Larry Vagina Posted September 25, 2007 Posted September 25, 2007 Re: Norton Speed Disk Hang ! Try jkdefrag, it uses the safe windows defrag api. It can also be run as a screensaver. Plus it's fast. On Sep 24, 1:12 pm, pen...@catholic.org wrote: > Recently I had a disk crash. So I changed a new disk, re-installed my > XP, got all the updates online, and then I went and bought the Norton > Systemworks 2007. Installed it, got all the "liveupdate" that I need, > and launch the thing. >
Guest R T Posted September 25, 2007 Posted September 25, 2007 Re: Norton Speed Disk Hang ! There's a Norton app in utilities folder named optimize. If you haven't tried that, it may solve the prob. It did for me, a couple of years ago. I no longer install Norton. -- R T address anti-spammed "Trinny" <trinny@radio.com> wrote in message news:fd96km$tkj$2@aioe.org... | penang@catholic.org wrote: | > Recently I had a disk crash. So I changed a new disk, re-installed my | > XP, got all the updates online, and then I went and bought the Norton | > Systemworks 2007. Installed it, got all the "liveupdate" that I need, | > and launch the thing. | > | > I have been a user of Norton Utilities ever since the DOS era, and | > have been a very satisfied customer, especially for Norton's Speed | > Disk utility. However, this time the darn thing just hang ! | > | > Yep, it went and did "defrag" for 4% and then stayed there. Nothing. | > | > I checked with the Task Manager (the ctrl-alt-del thingy on XP), I was | > told that SD was still "running". So I left the thing to "run", and | > boy did it "run" | > | >>From Saturday morning it ran until late nite, and I let it ran | > throughout the nite. Sunday morning, the Norton Systemworks 2007 Speed | > Disk still showed, would you believe it or not, "4%" !! | > | > Definitely the thing hang, but according the the Task Manager again, | > no, it's still "running". | > | > Don't know what the Norton people are doing nowadays. Feel kinda sad | > tho. | | Two lessons: | Microsoft sucks. | Norton sucks bigger. | | Nem
Guest Bill Sharpe Posted September 26, 2007 Posted September 26, 2007 Re: Norton Speed Disk Hang ! penang@catholic.org wrote: > Recently I had a disk crash. So I changed a new disk, re-installed my > XP, got all the updates online, and then I went and bought the Norton > Systemworks 2007. Installed it, got all the "liveupdate" that I need, > and launch the thing. > > I have been a user of Norton Utilities ever since the DOS era, and > have been a very satisfied customer, especially for Norton's Speed > Disk utility. However, this time the darn thing just hang ! > > Yep, it went and did "defrag" for 4% and then stayed there. Nothing. > > I checked with the Task Manager (the ctrl-alt-del thingy on XP), I was > told that SD was still "running". So I left the thing to "run", and > boy did it "run" > >>From Saturday morning it ran until late nite, and I let it ran > throughout the nite. Sunday morning, the Norton Systemworks 2007 Speed > Disk still showed, would you believe it or not, "4%" !! > > Definitely the thing hang, but according the the Task Manager again, > no, it's still "running". > > Don't know what the Norton people are doing nowadays. Feel kinda sad > tho. > How much free space is there on the disk you are trying to defrag? Although I no longer use any Norton Utilities (I was a fan from DOS days and Peter Norton lived just a few blocks from me) I seem to remember that Speed Disk hiccups if your hd is more than about 90% full. Bill
Guest penang@catholic.org Posted October 4, 2007 Posted October 4, 2007 Re: Norton Speed Disk Hang ! Disk Doctor reported no problem at all. It's just that the Speed Disk decided to get stuck at the "4%" mark for over 36 hours. Here are the specs: CPU: Pentium 4 - 2.66 GHz HD: Western Digital 500 GB Partitions: Drive C: NTFS 30 GB ( where the XP and programs reside) Drive D: NTFS 100 GB Drive E: NTFS 200 GB Drive F: NTFS 150+ GB I thought it's my machine that is at fault, so I even reformated the disk. Then do the re--installing of OS and Norton SystemWorks, then do the online updating of the OS and the Liveupdate of Norton SystemWorks 2007, then do the Disk Doctor to ensure there's no problem anywhere, and then Speed Disk .... SAME THING HAPPENS 1 I tried XP's own "defragment" programs, it works. I even downloaded some ntfs defragment freewares, they all work. The only thing that refuses to work is Norton Speed Disk. I don't know why. And I think I'm giving up on Norton Speed Disk, at least for now. On Sep 24, 9:28 pm, "Dave" <funinatlNOS...@hotmail.com> wrote: > Have you run disk doctor to make sure there aren't any problems with the > disk? > > <pen...@catholic.org> wrote in message > > news:1190657539.146086.112060@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com... > > > > > Recently I had a disk crash. So I changed a new disk, re-installed my > > XP, got all the updates online, and then I went and bought the Norton > > Systemworks 2007. Installed it, got all the "liveupdate" that I need, > > and launch the thing. > > > I have been a user of Norton Utilities ever since the DOS era, and > > have been a very satisfied customer, especially for Norton's Speed > > Disk utility. However, this time the darn thing just hang ! > > > Yep, it went and did "defrag" for 4% and then stayed there. Nothing. > > > I checked with the Task Manager (the ctrl-alt-del thingy on XP), I was > > told that SD was still "running". So I left the thing to "run", and > > boy did it "run" > > >>From Saturday morning it ran until late nite, and I let it ran > > throughout the nite. Sunday morning, the Norton Systemworks 2007 Speed > > Disk still showed, would you believe it or not, "4%" !! > > > Definitely the thing hang, but according the the Task Manager again, > > no, it's still "running". > > > Don't know what the Norton people are doing nowadays. Feel kinda sad > > tho.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
Guest penang@catholic.org Posted October 4, 2007 Posted October 4, 2007 Re: Norton Speed Disk Hang ! On Sep 26, 6:53 pm, Bill Sharpe <wfsno...@adelphia.net> wrote: > pen...@catholic.org wrote: > > Recently I had a disk crash. So I changed a new disk, re-installed my > > XP, got all the updates online, and then I went and bought the Norton > > Systemworks 2007. Installed it, got all the "liveupdate" that I need, > > and launch the thing. > > > I have been a user of Norton Utilities ever since the DOS era, and > > have been a very satisfied customer, especially for Norton's Speed > > Disk utility. However, this time the darn thing just hang ! > > > Yep, it went and did "defrag" for 4% and then stayed there. Nothing. > > > I checked with the Task Manager (the ctrl-alt-del thingy on XP), I was > > told that SD was still "running". So I left the thing to "run", and > > boy did it "run" > > >>From Saturday morning it ran until late nite, and I let it ran > > throughout the nite. Sunday morning, the Norton Systemworks 2007 Speed > > Disk still showed, would you believe it or not, "4%" !! > > > Definitely the thing hang, but according the the Task Manager again, > > no, it's still "running". > > > Don't know what the Norton people are doing nowadays. Feel kinda sad > > tho. > > How much free space is there on the disk you are trying to defrag? > Although I no longer use any Norton Utilities (I was a fan from DOS days > and Peter Norton lived just a few blocks from me) I seem to remember > that Speed Disk hiccups if your hd is more than about 90% full. > > Bill- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - In my case, the 30GB partition is 95% free ! And still Norton Speed Disk got stuck there. I'm a Norton Utilities user since DOS days also - and at that time, I used both PCTools and NU. Now PCTools is no more, and NU is turning into crabs. Kinda sad.
Guest penang@catholic.org Posted October 8, 2007 Posted October 8, 2007 Re: Norton Speed Disk Hang ! On Sep 25, 8:04 am, Kayman <enjoyl...@cocosisl.oz> wrote: > A number of experts agree that the retail AV version of McAfee, Norton and > Trend Micro has become cumbersome and bloated for the average user. > > The retail version of Norton can play havoc with your pc. Uninstall it > using Norton's own uninstall toolhttp://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/tsgeninfo.nsf/docid/200503310816... > and get a refund :) > As suggested on the site, you may wish to print out the directions before > proceeding. > > If this doesn't work use this: > Revo Uninstaller Freeware - Remove unwanted programs and traces easilyhttp://www.revouninstaller.com/ > and/or > RegSeekerhttp://www.hoverdesk.net/freeware.htm > Then use NTREGOPT to compact the registry; Follow instructions.http://www..larshederer.homepage.t-online.de/erunt > > While Norton's removal tool usually gets the job done, you may also want to > go to:http://www.snapfiles.com/get/winsockxpfix.html > and download a copy of winsockxpfix just in case. Rarely, the removal of > NIS breakes the networking components in XP to the point where internet > access is impossible. This little utility will fix it back up. > > Do not utilize more than one (1) real-time anti-virus scanning engine! > Disable the e-mail scanning function during installation (Custom > Installation on some AV apps.) as it provides no additional protection. In > fact, most of experts (incl. Norton) believe that scanning incoming and > outgoing mail causes e-mail file corruption. > > Avira AntiVir® PersonalEdition Classic - Freehttp://www.free-av.com/antivirus/allinonen.html > > Free antivirus - avast! 4 Home Editionhttp://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html > (Choose Custom Installation and under Resident > Protection, uncheck: Internet Mail and Outlook/Exchange.) > > AVG Anti-Virus Free Editionhttp://free.grisoft.com/ > > Kaspersky® Anti-Virus 7.0 - Not Freehttp://www.kaspersky.com/homeuser > > ESET NOD32 Antivirus - Not Freehttp://www.eset.com/ > Have you seen these "extra settings for NOD32"?http://www.wilderssecurity..com/showthread.php?t=37509 > > On-demand AV application (add it to your arsenal and use it as a "second > opinion" av scanner). > BitDefender10 Free Editionhttp://www.bitdefender.com/PRODUCT-14-en--BitDefender-8-Free-Edition.... > > A-S applications (grab'em all). > > The effectiveness of an individual AV A-S scanners can be wide-ranging and > oftentimes a collection of scanners is best. There isn't one software that > cleans and immunizes you against everything. That's why you need multiple > products to do the job i.e. overlap their coverage - one may catch what > another may miss. > > SuperAntispyware - Freehttp://www.superantispyware.com/superantispywarefreevspro.html > > Ad-Aware - Freehttp://www.lavasoftusa.com/products/ad_aware_free.phphttp://www.download.com/3000-2144-10045910.html > > Spybot Search & Destroy - Freehttp://www.safer-networking.org/en/download/index.html > (I don't use the Immunisation function and TeaTimer application) > > Windows Defender _ Freehttp://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/software/default.mspx > Interesting reading:http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,136195/article.html > "...Windows Defender did excel in behavior-based protection, which detects > changes to key areas of the system without having to know anything about > the actual threat." > > Some more useful applications: > Spyware Blaster - Freehttp://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareblaster.html > > Rootkit Revealer - Freehttp://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/Utilities/RootkitReveal... > > Crap Cleaner _ Freehttp://www.filehippo.com/download_ccleaner/ > If Windows Defender is utilized go to Applications, under Utilities > uncheck "Windows Defender" > > CW Shredder - Freehttp://www.softpedia.com/get/Internet/Popup-Ad-Spyware-Blockers/CWShr... > > Good luck :) Wow ! Many thanks for the most useful tips !! Thanks again !
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