Strange Content.IE5 behavior

September 25, 2007

Hi.

W98se.

My Content.IE5 Folder and subfolders took on a peculiar attribute. I was

looking for something in there and noticed that it no longer resembled the

regular appearance, where one might find 10 or more alphanumerically named

subfolders. It looked like the Content.IE5 that one might find in WinXP.

i.e. - generally having roughly 4 alphanumeric subfolders.

I've tried everything: DOS Deltree - which still ends up giving me the same

result - and then simply deleting those folders (Temporary Internet Files /

Cookies / History) from another operating system. Same issue persists. :-(

Even after performing the Deltree of Tempor~1 in DOS, once rebooted,

although Index.dat and desktop.ini are newly created, there are also 4

sub-folders within Content.IE5 which also get created anew. They are void of

temporary files, with the exception that each contain a Desktop.ini file.

As a test, I browsed multitude of webpages (including those which might

assist me) to see if I could get Content.IE5 to create its customary large

quantity of different sub-folders, but to no avail. 4 subfolders were all

which were created, despite the fact that the number of different types of

websites /images/ graphics/ banners /etc should have easily caused

Content.IE5 subfolders to mutiply.

I should add that normally, the stored location of the TIF's/Content.IE5 is

in C:\Windows, but eventually I noticed (much later) that mysteriously, the

location had somehow changed to C:\Windows\Local Settings. That was where it

was when I first noticed the 4 subfolder anomaly. I changed it back to it's

all-time normal location of C:\Windows. The problem persists despite all

kinds of techniques to fix it..

This is a new problem I've never before encountered. Can anyone help me with

some pointers on how I might rectify this?

Many thanks for reading this and helping.

September 25, 2007

Re: Strange Content.IE5 behavior

Eugenia wrote:

> Hi.

>

> W98se.

>

> My Content.IE5 Folder and subfolders took on a peculiar attribute. I was

> looking for something in there and noticed that it no longer resembled the

> regular appearance, where one might find 10 or more alphanumerically named

> subfolders. It looked like the Content.IE5 that one might find in WinXP.

> i.e. - generally having roughly 4 alphanumeric subfolders.

>

> I've tried everything: DOS Deltree - which still ends up giving me the

same

> result - and then simply deleting those folders (Temporary Internet Files

/

> Cookies / History) from another operating system. Same issue persists. :-(

>

> Even after performing the Deltree of Tempor~1 in DOS, once rebooted,

> although Index.dat and desktop.ini are newly created, there are also 4

> sub-folders within Content.IE5 which also get created anew. They are void

of

> temporary files, with the exception that each contain a Desktop.ini file.

>

> As a test, I browsed multitude of webpages (including those which might

> assist me) to see if I could get Content.IE5 to create its customary large

> quantity of different sub-folders, but to no avail. 4 subfolders were all

> which were created, despite the fact that the number of different types of

> websites /images/ graphics/ banners /etc should have easily caused

> Content.IE5 subfolders to mutiply.

>

> I should add that normally, the stored location of the TIF's/Content.IE5

is

> in C:\Windows, but eventually I noticed (much later) that mysteriously,

the

> location had somehow changed to C:\Windows\Local Settings. That was where

it

> was when I first noticed the 4 subfolder anomaly. I changed it back to

it's

> all-time normal location of C:\Windows. The problem persists despite all

> kinds of techniques to fix it..

>

> This is a new problem I've never before encountered. Can anyone help me

with

> some pointers on how I might rectify this?

>

> Many thanks for reading this and helping.

When you first start out with a new clean TIF in Win98SE (like after

deltreeing), there will be four (randomly named) subfolders created, and it

will stay that way, until the TIF reaches around 70 - 80 MB or so, at which

point an additional 4 subfolders will be created - and so on. So I'm not

sure what your problem is (if any)?

September 25, 2007

Re: Strange Content.IE5 behavior

"Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

news:%235B0uG1$HHA.4324@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> Eugenia wrote:

> > Hi.

> >

> > W98se.

> >

> > My Content.IE5 Folder and subfolders took on a peculiar attribute. I was

> > looking for something in there and noticed that it no longer resembled

the

> > regular appearance, where one might find 10 or more alphanumerically

named

> > subfolders. It looked like the Content.IE5 that one might find in WinXP.

> > i.e. - generally having roughly 4 alphanumeric subfolders.

> >

> > I've tried everything: DOS Deltree - which still ends up giving me the

> same

> > result - and then simply deleting those folders (Temporary Internet

Files

> /

> > Cookies / History) from another operating system. Same issue persists.

:-(

> >

> > Even after performing the Deltree of Tempor~1 in DOS, once rebooted,

> > although Index.dat and desktop.ini are newly created, there are also 4

> > sub-folders within Content.IE5 which also get created anew. They are

void

> of

> > temporary files, with the exception that each contain a Desktop.ini

file.

> >

> > As a test, I browsed multitude of webpages (including those which might

> > assist me) to see if I could get Content.IE5 to create its customary

large

> > quantity of different sub-folders, but to no avail. 4 subfolders were

all

> > which were created, despite the fact that the number of different types

of

> > websites /images/ graphics/ banners /etc should have easily caused

> > Content.IE5 subfolders to mutiply.

> >

> > I should add that normally, the stored location of the TIF's/Content.IE5

> is

> > in C:\Windows, but eventually I noticed (much later) that mysteriously,

> the

> > location had somehow changed to C:\Windows\Local Settings. That was

where

> it

> > was when I first noticed the 4 subfolder anomaly. I changed it back to

> it's

> > all-time normal location of C:\Windows. The problem persists despite all

> > kinds of techniques to fix it..

> >

> > This is a new problem I've never before encountered. Can anyone help me

> with

> > some pointers on how I might rectify this?

> >

> > Many thanks for reading this and helping.

>

> When you first start out with a new clean TIF in Win98SE (like after

> deltreeing), there will be four (randomly named) subfolders created, and

it

> will stay that way, until the TIF reaches around 70 - 80 MB or so, at

which

> point an additional 4 subfolders will be created - and so on. So I'm

not

> sure what your problem is (if any)?

>

Oh... is that so ? For some reason, I never seemed to notice that. Perhaps I

hadn't noticed this of which you speak because the most "common" reason I

had for doing a Deltree Tempor~1 was due to having a definite corruption

(i.e. - there was no history shown in IE's "web pages visited" pane -

Date/site/most visted/order). So when that was repaired by executing a DOS

Deltree, perhaps in my mirthful joy, I hadn't noticed that fact.

I will say that if what you say to be so is the case, I now feel very silly.

:-/

Well, I'll go on a 'mad dash' to millions of webpages and download 200 MB of

junk and see if I can get things back to "normal" again. lol

PS - I do wonder how my customary C:\Windows\TIF got re-located to

C:\Windows\Local Settings, all by itself though. <mystified>

Thanks Bill in Co., I appreciate your help. :-)

September 25, 2007

Re: Strange Content.IE5 behavior

Eugenia wrote:

> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

> news:%235B0uG1$HHA.4324@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> Eugenia wrote:

>>> Hi.

>>>

>>> W98se.

>>>

>>> My Content.IE5 Folder and subfolders took on a peculiar attribute. I was

>>> looking for something in there and noticed that it no longer resembled

the

>>> regular appearance, where one might find 10 or more alphanumerically

named

>>> subfolders. It looked like the Content.IE5 that one might find in WinXP.

>>> i.e. - generally having roughly 4 alphanumeric subfolders.

>>>

>>> I've tried everything: DOS Deltree - which still ends up giving me the

same

>>> result - and then simply deleting those folders (Temporary Internet

Files /

>>> Cookies / History) from another operating system. Same issue persists.

:-(

>>>

>>> Even after performing the Deltree of Tempor~1 in DOS, once rebooted,

>>> although Index.dat and desktop.ini are newly created, there are also 4

>>> sub-folders within Content.IE5 which also get created anew. They are

void of

>>> temporary files, with the exception that each contain a Desktop.ini

file.

>>>

>>> As a test, I browsed multitude of webpages (including those which might

>>> assist me) to see if I could get Content.IE5 to create its customary

large

>>> quantity of different sub-folders, but to no avail. 4 subfolders were

all

>>> which were created, despite the fact that the number of different types

of

>>> websites /images/ graphics/ banners /etc should have easily caused

>>> Content.IE5 subfolders to mutiply.

>>>

>>> I should add that normally, the stored location of the TIF's/Content.IE5

is

>>> in C:\Windows, but eventually I noticed (much later) that mysteriously,

the

>>> location had somehow changed to C:\Windows\Local Settings. That was

where it

>>> was when I first noticed the 4 subfolder anomaly. I changed it back to

it's

>>> all-time normal location of C:\Windows. The problem persists despite all

>>> kinds of techniques to fix it..

>>>

>>> This is a new problem I've never before encountered. Can anyone help me

with

>>> some pointers on how I might rectify this?

>>>

>>> Many thanks for reading this and helping.

>>

>> When you first start out with a new clean TIF in Win98SE (like after

>> deltreeing), there will be four (randomly named) subfolders created, and

it

>> will stay that way, until the TIF reaches around 70 - 80 MB or so, at

which

>> point an additional 4 subfolders will be created - and so on. So I'm

not

>> sure what your problem is (if any)?

>>

> Oh... is that so ? For some reason, I never seemed to notice that. Perhaps

I

> hadn't noticed this of which you speak because the most "common" reason I

> had for doing a Deltree Tempor~1 was due to having a definite corruption

> (i.e. - there was no history shown in IE's "web pages visited" pane -

> Date/site/most visted/order). So when that was repaired by executing a DOS

> Deltree, perhaps in my mirthful joy, I hadn't noticed that fact.

>

> I will say that if what you say to be so is the case, I now feel very

silly.

> :-/

>

> Well, I'll go on a 'mad dash' to millions of webpages and download 200 MB

of

> junk and see if I can get things back to "normal" again. lol

>

> PS - I do wonder how my customary C:\Windows\TIF got re-located to

> C:\Windows\Local Settings, all by itself though. <mystified>

That part I don't know about for sure.

But if you had a crash, maybe windows relocated and rebuilt the TIF over

there by default, since the regular TIF location and subdirectories were in

use at the time (and presumably somewhat corrupted).

BTW, I am not sure at exactly what point the TIF goes from 4 to 8

subfolders, but I noticed over here recently that it happened somewhere

around 70-80 MB (I check on it periodically). I currently have my TIF set

at 100 MB max, and I'm there already, so I don't expect more than 8

subdirectories (there are 8 now).

September 26, 2007

Re: Strange Content.IE5 behavior

If you have more than four of those sub-folders, I suggest you reduce the

size limit on the TIF folder. I use the figure 64MB and web-pages serve up

fine. More than that is a waste of space and time (the larger the TIF

capacity, the longer it takes for IE to sort through it.)

The Local Settings folder indicates some application meant for Windows NT

versions (NT4, XP, 2K3 or Vista) decided to make the change for you. Perhaps

some utility that you installed to guard your internet traffic? Have you

recently installed any such item? Or any other major app? I've seen this

effect, but never pinned down the cause.

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://www.grystmill.com

"Eugenia" <noneofyour@beeswax.non> wrote in message

news:OvlCF50$HHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> Hi.

>

> W98se.

>

> My Content.IE5 Folder and subfolders took on a peculiar attribute. I was

> looking for something in there and noticed that it no longer resembled the

> regular appearance, where one might find 10 or more alphanumerically named

> subfolders. It looked like the Content.IE5 that one might find in WinXP.

> i.e. - generally having roughly 4 alphanumeric subfolders.

>

> I've tried everything: DOS Deltree - which still ends up giving me the

> same

> result - and then simply deleting those folders (Temporary Internet Files

> /

> Cookies / History) from another operating system. Same issue persists. :-(

>

> Even after performing the Deltree of Tempor~1 in DOS, once rebooted,

> although Index.dat and desktop.ini are newly created, there are also 4

> sub-folders within Content.IE5 which also get created anew. They are void

> of

> temporary files, with the exception that each contain a Desktop.ini file.

>

> As a test, I browsed multitude of webpages (including those which might

> assist me) to see if I could get Content.IE5 to create its customary large

> quantity of different sub-folders, but to no avail. 4 subfolders were all

> which were created, despite the fact that the number of different types of

> websites /images/ graphics/ banners /etc should have easily caused

> Content.IE5 subfolders to mutiply.

>

> I should add that normally, the stored location of the TIF's/Content.IE5

> is

> in C:\Windows, but eventually I noticed (much later) that mysteriously,

> the

> location had somehow changed to C:\Windows\Local Settings. That was where

> it

> was when I first noticed the 4 subfolder anomaly. I changed it back to

> it's

> all-time normal location of C:\Windows. The problem persists despite all

> kinds of techniques to fix it..

>

> This is a new problem I've never before encountered. Can anyone help me

> with

> some pointers on how I might rectify this?

>

> Many thanks for reading this and helping.

>

September 26, 2007

Re: Strange Content.IE5 behavior

Probably generally a good idea, except for those of us on dial-up, I think

maybe 100 MB is a bit better. The time it takes IE to load stuff in from

the web pages is often quite noticeable on dial-up, and having a somewhat

larger cache still seems to help. I haven't yet determined the point where

it doesn't, but I've stayed at 100 MB. :-)

Gary S. Terhune wrote:

> If you have more than four of those sub-folders, I suggest you reduce the

> size limit on the TIF folder. I use the figure 64MB and web-pages serve up

> fine. More than that is a waste of space and time (the larger the TIF

> capacity, the longer it takes for IE to sort through it.)

>

> The Local Settings folder indicates some application meant for Windows NT

> versions (NT4, XP, 2K3 or Vista) decided to make the change for you.

Perhaps

> some utility that you installed to guard your internet traffic? Have you

> recently installed any such item? Or any other major app? I've seen this

> effect, but never pinned down the cause.

>

> --

> Gary S. Terhune

> MS-MVP Shell/User

> http://www.grystmill.com

>

> "Eugenia" <noneofyour@beeswax.non> wrote in message

> news:OvlCF50$HHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> Hi.

>>

>> W98se.

>>

>> My Content.IE5 Folder and subfolders took on a peculiar attribute. I was

>> looking for something in there and noticed that it no longer resembled

the

>> regular appearance, where one might find 10 or more alphanumerically

named

>> subfolders. It looked like the Content.IE5 that one might find in WinXP.

>> i.e. - generally having roughly 4 alphanumeric subfolders.

>>

>> I've tried everything: DOS Deltree - which still ends up giving me the

>> same

>> result - and then simply deleting those folders (Temporary Internet

Files

>> /

>> Cookies / History) from another operating system. Same issue persists.

:-(

>>

>> Even after performing the Deltree of Tempor~1 in DOS, once rebooted,

>> although Index.dat and desktop.ini are newly created, there are also 4

>> sub-folders within Content.IE5 which also get created anew. They are void

>> of

>> temporary files, with the exception that each contain a Desktop.ini file.

>>

>> As a test, I browsed multitude of webpages (including those which might

>> assist me) to see if I could get Content.IE5 to create its customary

large

>> quantity of different sub-folders, but to no avail. 4 subfolders were

all

>> which were created, despite the fact that the number of different types

of

>> websites /images/ graphics/ banners /etc should have easily caused

>> Content.IE5 subfolders to mutiply.

>>

>> I should add that normally, the stored location of the TIF's/Content.IE5

>> is

>> in C:\Windows, but eventually I noticed (much later) that mysteriously,

>> the

>> location had somehow changed to C:\Windows\Local Settings. That was where

>> it

>> was when I first noticed the 4 subfolder anomaly. I changed it back to

>> it's

>> all-time normal location of C:\Windows. The problem persists despite all

>> kinds of techniques to fix it..

>>

>> This is a new problem I've never before encountered. Can anyone help me

>> with

>> some pointers on how I might rectify this?

>>

>> Many thanks for reading this and helping.

September 26, 2007

Re: Strange Content.IE5 behavior

Thing is, many sites force a new page, anyway. Especially the ones with any

substantial content.

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://www.grystmill.com

"Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

news:u1hx%23qGAIHA.4496@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> Probably generally a good idea, except for those of us on dial-up, I think

> maybe 100 MB is a bit better. The time it takes IE to load stuff in from

> the web pages is often quite noticeable on dial-up, and having a somewhat

> larger cache still seems to help. I haven't yet determined the point

> where

> it doesn't, but I've stayed at 100 MB. :-)

>

> Gary S. Terhune wrote:

>> If you have more than four of those sub-folders, I suggest you reduce the

>> size limit on the TIF folder. I use the figure 64MB and web-pages serve

>> up

>> fine. More than that is a waste of space and time (the larger the TIF

>> capacity, the longer it takes for IE to sort through it.)

>>

>> The Local Settings folder indicates some application meant for Windows NT

>> versions (NT4, XP, 2K3 or Vista) decided to make the change for you.

> Perhaps

>> some utility that you installed to guard your internet traffic? Have you

>> recently installed any such item? Or any other major app? I've seen this

>> effect, but never pinned down the cause.

>>

>> --

>> Gary S. Terhune

>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>

>> "Eugenia" <noneofyour@beeswax.non> wrote in message

>> news:OvlCF50$HHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>> Hi.

>>>

>>> W98se.

>>>

>>> My Content.IE5 Folder and subfolders took on a peculiar attribute. I was

>>> looking for something in there and noticed that it no longer resembled

> the

>>> regular appearance, where one might find 10 or more alphanumerically

> named

>>> subfolders. It looked like the Content.IE5 that one might find in WinXP.

>>> i.e. - generally having roughly 4 alphanumeric subfolders.

>>>

>>> I've tried everything: DOS Deltree - which still ends up giving me the

>>> same

>>> result - and then simply deleting those folders (Temporary Internet

> Files

>>> /

>>> Cookies / History) from another operating system. Same issue persists.

> :-(

>>>

>>> Even after performing the Deltree of Tempor~1 in DOS, once rebooted,

>>> although Index.dat and desktop.ini are newly created, there are also 4

>>> sub-folders within Content.IE5 which also get created anew. They are

>>> void

>>> of

>>> temporary files, with the exception that each contain a Desktop.ini

>>> file.

>>>

>>> As a test, I browsed multitude of webpages (including those which might

>>> assist me) to see if I could get Content.IE5 to create its customary

> large

>>> quantity of different sub-folders, but to no avail. 4 subfolders were

> all

>>> which were created, despite the fact that the number of different types

> of

>>> websites /images/ graphics/ banners /etc should have easily caused

>>> Content.IE5 subfolders to mutiply.

>>>

>>> I should add that normally, the stored location of the TIF's/Content.IE5

>>> is

>>> in C:\Windows, but eventually I noticed (much later) that mysteriously,

>>> the

>>> location had somehow changed to C:\Windows\Local Settings. That was

>>> where

>>> it

>>> was when I first noticed the 4 subfolder anomaly. I changed it back to

>>> it's

>>> all-time normal location of C:\Windows. The problem persists despite all

>>> kinds of techniques to fix it..

>>>

>>> This is a new problem I've never before encountered. Can anyone help me

>>> with

>>> some pointers on how I might rectify this?

>>>

>>> Many thanks for reading this and helping.

>

September 27, 2007

Re: Strange Content.IE5 behavior

FWIW, I was on a very slow dial-up connection (usually maxed at 26400) for nearly

nine years, and always had my TIF set at 50MB max. I never saw the least difference

when I experimented with making it larger. YMMV. I always recommend a TIF value

between 50MB and 100MB for a dial-up connection, and usually smaller with high speed

Internet (cable, DSL). Of course, I also usually recommend another browser than IE.

;-)

--

Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

http://dts-l.org/

http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

"Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

news:u1hx%23qGAIHA.4496@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> Probably generally a good idea, except for those of us on dial-up, I think

> maybe 100 MB is a bit better. The time it takes IE to load stuff in from

> the web pages is often quite noticeable on dial-up, and having a somewhat

> larger cache still seems to help. I haven't yet determined the point where

> it doesn't, but I've stayed at 100 MB. :-)

>

> Gary S. Terhune wrote:

>> If you have more than four of those sub-folders, I suggest you reduce the

>> size limit on the TIF folder. I use the figure 64MB and web-pages serve up

>> fine. More than that is a waste of space and time (the larger the TIF

>> capacity, the longer it takes for IE to sort through it.)

>>

>> The Local Settings folder indicates some application meant for Windows NT

>> versions (NT4, XP, 2K3 or Vista) decided to make the change for you.

> Perhaps

>> some utility that you installed to guard your internet traffic? Have you

>> recently installed any such item? Or any other major app? I've seen this

>> effect, but never pinned down the cause.

>>

>> --

>> Gary S. Terhune

>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>

>> "Eugenia" <noneofyour@beeswax.non> wrote in message

>> news:OvlCF50$HHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>> Hi.

>>>

>>> W98se.

>>>

>>> My Content.IE5 Folder and subfolders took on a peculiar attribute. I was

>>> looking for something in there and noticed that it no longer resembled

> the

>>> regular appearance, where one might find 10 or more alphanumerically

> named

>>> subfolders. It looked like the Content.IE5 that one might find in WinXP.

>>> i.e. - generally having roughly 4 alphanumeric subfolders.

>>>

>>> I've tried everything: DOS Deltree - which still ends up giving me the

>>> same

>>> result - and then simply deleting those folders (Temporary Internet

> Files

>>> /

>>> Cookies / History) from another operating system. Same issue persists.

> :-(

>>>

>>> Even after performing the Deltree of Tempor~1 in DOS, once rebooted,

>>> although Index.dat and desktop.ini are newly created, there are also 4

>>> sub-folders within Content.IE5 which also get created anew. They are void

>>> of

>>> temporary files, with the exception that each contain a Desktop.ini file.

>>>

>>> As a test, I browsed multitude of webpages (including those which might

>>> assist me) to see if I could get Content.IE5 to create its customary

> large

>>> quantity of different sub-folders, but to no avail. 4 subfolders were

> all

>>> which were created, despite the fact that the number of different types

> of

>>> websites /images/ graphics/ banners /etc should have easily caused

>>> Content.IE5 subfolders to mutiply.

>>>

>>> I should add that normally, the stored location of the TIF's/Content.IE5

>>> is

>>> in C:\Windows, but eventually I noticed (much later) that mysteriously,

>>> the

>>> location had somehow changed to C:\Windows\Local Settings. That was where

>>> it

>>> was when I first noticed the 4 subfolder anomaly. I changed it back to

>>> it's

>>> all-time normal location of C:\Windows. The problem persists despite all

>>> kinds of techniques to fix it..

>>>

>>> This is a new problem I've never before encountered. Can anyone help me

>>> with

>>> some pointers on how I might rectify this?

>>>

>>> Many thanks for reading this and helping.

>

September 27, 2007

Re: Strange Content.IE5 behavior

Sure, but a larger cache still helps as many (most?) sites don't force load

ALL of their web contents (i.e. all the content files in the page),

fortunately. I can sure tell a big difference when I have no cache (like

just after clearing it all out), vs revisiting it.

Gary S. Terhune wrote:

> Thing is, many sites force a new page, anyway. Especially the ones with

any

> substantial content.

>

> --

> Gary S. Terhune

> MS-MVP Shell/User

> http://www.grystmill.com

>

> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

> news:u1hx%23qGAIHA.4496@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> Probably generally a good idea, except for those of us on dial-up, I

think

>> maybe 100 MB is a bit better. The time it takes IE to load stuff in

from

>> the web pages is often quite noticeable on dial-up, and having a somewhat

>> larger cache still seems to help. I haven't yet determined the point

>> where

>> it doesn't, but I've stayed at 100 MB. :-)

>>

>> Gary S. Terhune wrote:

>>> If you have more than four of those sub-folders, I suggest you reduce

the

>>> size limit on the TIF folder. I use the figure 64MB and web-pages serve

>>> up

>>> fine. More than that is a waste of space and time (the larger the TIF

>>> capacity, the longer it takes for IE to sort through it.)

>>>

>>> The Local Settings folder indicates some application meant for Windows

NT

>>> versions (NT4, XP, 2K3 or Vista) decided to make the change for you.

Perhaps

>>> some utility that you installed to guard your internet traffic? Have you

>>> recently installed any such item? Or any other major app? I've seen this

>>> effect, but never pinned down the cause.

>>>

>>> --

>>> Gary S. Terhune

>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>>

>>> "Eugenia" <noneofyour@beeswax.non> wrote in message

>>> news:OvlCF50$HHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>> Hi.

>>>>

>>>> W98se.

>>>>

>>>> My Content.IE5 Folder and subfolders took on a peculiar attribute. I

was

>>>> looking for something in there and noticed that it no longer resembled

the

>>>> regular appearance, where one might find 10 or more alphanumerically

named

>>>> subfolders. It looked like the Content.IE5 that one might find in

WinXP.

>>>> i.e. - generally having roughly 4 alphanumeric subfolders.

>>>>

>>>> I've tried everything: DOS Deltree - which still ends up giving me the

>>>> same

>>>> result - and then simply deleting those folders (Temporary Internet

Files

>>>> /

>>>> Cookies / History) from another operating system. Same issue persists.

:-(

>>>>

>>>> Even after performing the Deltree of Tempor~1 in DOS, once rebooted,

>>>> although Index.dat and desktop.ini are newly created, there are also 4

>>>> sub-folders within Content.IE5 which also get created anew. They are

>>>> void

>>>> of

>>>> temporary files, with the exception that each contain a Desktop.ini

>>>> file.

>>>>

>>>> As a test, I browsed multitude of webpages (including those which might

>>>> assist me) to see if I could get Content.IE5 to create its customary

large

>>>> quantity of different sub-folders, but to no avail. 4 subfolders were

all

>>>> which were created, despite the fact that the number of different types

of

>>>> websites /images/ graphics/ banners /etc should have easily caused

>>>> Content.IE5 subfolders to mutiply.

>>>>

>>>> I should add that normally, the stored location of the

TIF's/Content.IE5

>>>> is

>>>> in C:\Windows, but eventually I noticed (much later) that mysteriously,

>>>> the

>>>> location had somehow changed to C:\Windows\Local Settings. That was

>>>> where

>>>> it

>>>> was when I first noticed the 4 subfolder anomaly. I changed it back to

>>>> it's

>>>> all-time normal location of C:\Windows. The problem persists despite

all

>>>> kinds of techniques to fix it..

>>>>

>>>> This is a new problem I've never before encountered. Can anyone help me

>>>> with

>>>> some pointers on how I might rectify this?

>>>>

>>>> Many thanks for reading this and helping.

September 27, 2007

Re: Strange Content.IE5 behavior

The difference is noticeable because the TIF contents eventually gets

replaced, and then you really notice it when you go back to that web page

(since it has to reload it all in again). Just by some regular web

searching I can easily get the TIF size to go up by 10 MB or more on a

single day (meaning some content is being dumped out to make room for the

new stuff)

And how long it takes to reach that point in time is a direct function of

how large your TIF is; meaning, the larger your TIF, the longer you get to

wait! before you reach that point (of needing to wait until the page content

is reloaded into the TIF).

glee wrote:

> FWIW, I was on a very slow dial-up connection (usually maxed at 26400) for

> nearly nine years, and always had my TIF set at 50MB max. I never saw the

> least difference when I experimented with making it larger. YMMV. I

always

> recommend a TIF value between 50MB and 100MB for a dial-up connection, and

> usually smaller with high speed Internet (cable, DSL). Of course, I also

> usually recommend another browser than IE. ;-)

> --

> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

> http://dts-l.org/

> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

>

> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

> news:u1hx%23qGAIHA.4496@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> Probably generally a good idea, except for those of us on dial-up, I

think

>> maybe 100 MB is a bit better. The time it takes IE to load stuff in

from

>> the web pages is often quite noticeable on dial-up, and having a somewhat

>> larger cache still seems to help. I haven't yet determined the point

where

>> it doesn't, but I've stayed at 100 MB. :-)

>>

>> Gary S. Terhune wrote:

>>> If you have more than four of those sub-folders, I suggest you reduce

the

>>> size limit on the TIF folder. I use the figure 64MB and web-pages serve

up

>>> fine. More than that is a waste of space and time (the larger the TIF

>>> capacity, the longer it takes for IE to sort through it.)

>>>

>>> The Local Settings folder indicates some application meant for Windows

NT

>>> versions (NT4, XP, 2K3 or Vista) decided to make the change for you.

>> Perhaps

>>> some utility that you installed to guard your internet traffic? Have you

>>> recently installed any such item? Or any other major app? I've seen this

>>> effect, but never pinned down the cause.

>>>

>>> --

>>> Gary S. Terhune

>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>>

>>> "Eugenia" <noneofyour@beeswax.non> wrote in message

>>> news:OvlCF50$HHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>> Hi.

>>>>

>>>> W98se.

>>>>

>>>> My Content.IE5 Folder and subfolders took on a peculiar attribute. I

was

>>>> looking for something in there and noticed that it no longer resembled

>> the

>>>> regular appearance, where one might find 10 or more alphanumerically

>> named

>>>> subfolders. It looked like the Content.IE5 that one might find in

WinXP.

>>>> i.e. - generally having roughly 4 alphanumeric subfolders.

>>>>

>>>> I've tried everything: DOS Deltree - which still ends up giving me the

>>>> same

>>>> result - and then simply deleting those folders (Temporary Internet

>> Files

>>>> /

>>>> Cookies / History) from another operating system. Same issue persists.

>> :-(

>>>>

>>>> Even after performing the Deltree of Tempor~1 in DOS, once rebooted,

>>>> although Index.dat and desktop.ini are newly created, there are also 4

>>>> sub-folders within Content.IE5 which also get created anew. They are

void

>>>> of

>>>> temporary files, with the exception that each contain a Desktop.ini

file.

>>>>

>>>> As a test, I browsed multitude of webpages (including those which might

>>>> assist me) to see if I could get Content.IE5 to create its customary

>> large

>>>> quantity of different sub-folders, but to no avail. 4 subfolders were

>> all

>>>> which were created, despite the fact that the number of different types

>> of

>>>> websites /images/ graphics/ banners /etc should have easily caused

>>>> Content.IE5 subfolders to mutiply.

>>>>

>>>> I should add that normally, the stored location of the

TIF's/Content.IE5

>>>> is

>>>> in C:\Windows, but eventually I noticed (much later) that mysteriously,

>>>> the

>>>> location had somehow changed to C:\Windows\Local Settings. That was

where

>>>> it

>>>> was when I first noticed the 4 subfolder anomaly. I changed it back to

>>>> it's

>>>> all-time normal location of C:\Windows. The problem persists despite

all

>>>> kinds of techniques to fix it..

>>>>

>>>> This is a new problem I've never before encountered. Can anyone help me

>>>> with

>>>> some pointers on how I might rectify this?

>>>>

>>>> Many thanks for reading this and helping.

September 27, 2007

Re: Strange Content.IE5 behavior

As I said, I had it set to 50MB with dial-up and did not see any noticable

difference from having it set at 100MB in terms of browser performance and page load

speed, either on my home computers or on those at work which used dial-up for a

period of time. Again, YMMV.

I also used the Cache Sentry utility on my system, so that may have played a part.

http://www.enigmaticsoftware.com/cachesentry/index.html

--

Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

http://dts-l.org/

http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

"Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

news:ucsy82KAIHA.4612@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> The difference is noticeable because the TIF contents eventually gets

> replaced, and then you really notice it when you go back to that web page

> (since it has to reload it all in again). Just by some regular web

> searching I can easily get the TIF size to go up by 10 MB or more on a

> single day (meaning some content is being dumped out to make room for the

> new stuff)

>

> And how long it takes to reach that point in time is a direct function of

> how large your TIF is; meaning, the larger your TIF, the longer you get to

> wait! before you reach that point (of needing to wait until the page content

> is reloaded into the TIF).

>

> glee wrote:

>> FWIW, I was on a very slow dial-up connection (usually maxed at 26400) for

>> nearly nine years, and always had my TIF set at 50MB max. I never saw the

>> least difference when I experimented with making it larger. YMMV. I

> always

>> recommend a TIF value between 50MB and 100MB for a dial-up connection, and

>> usually smaller with high speed Internet (cable, DSL). Of course, I also

>> usually recommend another browser than IE. ;-)

>> --

>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

>> http://dts-l.org/

>> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

>>

>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

>> news:u1hx%23qGAIHA.4496@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>> Probably generally a good idea, except for those of us on dial-up, I

> think

>>> maybe 100 MB is a bit better. The time it takes IE to load stuff in

> from

>>> the web pages is often quite noticeable on dial-up, and having a somewhat

>>> larger cache still seems to help. I haven't yet determined the point

> where

>>> it doesn't, but I've stayed at 100 MB. :-)

>>>

>>> Gary S. Terhune wrote:

>>>> If you have more than four of those sub-folders, I suggest you reduce

> the

>>>> size limit on the TIF folder. I use the figure 64MB and web-pages serve

> up

>>>> fine. More than that is a waste of space and time (the larger the TIF

>>>> capacity, the longer it takes for IE to sort through it.)

>>>>

>>>> The Local Settings folder indicates some application meant for Windows

> NT

>>>> versions (NT4, XP, 2K3 or Vista) decided to make the change for you.

>>> Perhaps

>>>> some utility that you installed to guard your internet traffic? Have you

>>>> recently installed any such item? Or any other major app? I've seen this

>>>> effect, but never pinned down the cause.

>>>>

>>>> --

>>>> Gary S. Terhune

>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>>>

>>>> "Eugenia" <noneofyour@beeswax.non> wrote in message

>>>> news:OvlCF50$HHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>> Hi.

>>>>>

>>>>> W98se.

>>>>>

>>>>> My Content.IE5 Folder and subfolders took on a peculiar attribute. I

> was

>>>>> looking for something in there and noticed that it no longer resembled

>>> the

>>>>> regular appearance, where one might find 10 or more alphanumerically

>>> named

>>>>> subfolders. It looked like the Content.IE5 that one might find in

> WinXP.

>>>>> i.e. - generally having roughly 4 alphanumeric subfolders.

>>>>>

>>>>> I've tried everything: DOS Deltree - which still ends up giving me the

>>>>> same

>>>>> result - and then simply deleting those folders (Temporary Internet

>>> Files

>>>>> /

>>>>> Cookies / History) from another operating system. Same issue persists.

>>> :-(

>>>>>

>>>>> Even after performing the Deltree of Tempor~1 in DOS, once rebooted,

>>>>> although Index.dat and desktop.ini are newly created, there are also 4

>>>>> sub-folders within Content.IE5 which also get created anew. They are

> void

>>>>> of

>>>>> temporary files, with the exception that each contain a Desktop.ini

> file.

>>>>>

>>>>> As a test, I browsed multitude of webpages (including those which might

>>>>> assist me) to see if I could get Content.IE5 to create its customary

>>> large

>>>>> quantity of different sub-folders, but to no avail. 4 subfolders were

>>> all

>>>>> which were created, despite the fact that the number of different types

>>> of

>>>>> websites /images/ graphics/ banners /etc should have easily caused

>>>>> Content.IE5 subfolders to mutiply.

>>>>>

>>>>> I should add that normally, the stored location of the

> TIF's/Content.IE5

>>>>> is

>>>>> in C:\Windows, but eventually I noticed (much later) that mysteriously,

>>>>> the

>>>>> location had somehow changed to C:\Windows\Local Settings. That was

> where

>>>>> it

>>>>> was when I first noticed the 4 subfolder anomaly. I changed it back to

>>>>> it's

>>>>> all-time normal location of C:\Windows. The problem persists despite

> all

>>>>> kinds of techniques to fix it..

>>>>>

>>>>> This is a new problem I've never before encountered. Can anyone help me

>>>>> with

>>>>> some pointers on how I might rectify this?

>>>>>

>>>>> Many thanks for reading this and helping.

>

September 27, 2007

Re: Strange Content.IE5 behavior

I use Cache Sentry Pro too. But as I said, the longer I can go without

having to wait for the page data to be brought in again to the TIF, the

better. :-) (well, up to a point, as I've limited my TIF to 100 MB.

And as has been noted, there may be a point at which it takes the system

longer to search thru the TIF to see if its in there already than to simply

reload in the page (even on dial-up). Although I haven't (yet) come

across an authoritative, fully documented article that spells out exactly

what size TIF that is.

Although, as has been suggested, many seem to recommend limiting the TIF to

50 or 100 MB, or so.

glee wrote:

> As I said, I had it set to 50MB with dial-up and did not see any noticable

> difference from having it set at 100MB in terms of browser performance and

> page load speed, either on my home computers or on those at work which

used

> dial-up for a period of time. Again, YMMV.

>

> I also used the Cache Sentry utility on my system, so that may have played

a

> part. http://www.enigmaticsoftware.com/cachesentry/index.html

> --

> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

> http://dts-l.org/

> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

>

> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

> news:ucsy82KAIHA.4612@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> The difference is noticeable because the TIF contents eventually gets

>> replaced, and then you really notice it when you go back to that web page

>> (since it has to reload it all in again). Just by some regular web

>> searching I can easily get the TIF size to go up by 10 MB or more on a

>> single day (meaning some content is being dumped out to make room for the

>> new stuff)

>>

>> And how long it takes to reach that point in time is a direct function of

>> how large your TIF is; meaning, the larger your TIF, the longer you get

to

>> wait! before you reach that point (of needing to wait until the page

content

>> is reloaded into the TIF).

>>

>> glee wrote:

>>> FWIW, I was on a very slow dial-up connection (usually maxed at 26400)

for

>>> nearly nine years, and always had my TIF set at 50MB max. I never saw

the

>>> least difference when I experimented with making it larger. YMMV. I

>> always

>>> recommend a TIF value between 50MB and 100MB for a dial-up connection,

and

>>> usually smaller with high speed Internet (cable, DSL). Of course, I

also

>>> usually recommend another browser than IE. ;-)

>>> --

>>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

>>> http://dts-l.org/

>>> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

>>>

>>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

>>> news:u1hx%23qGAIHA.4496@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>> Probably generally a good idea, except for those of us on dial-up, I

>> think

>>>> maybe 100 MB is a bit better. The time it takes IE to load stuff in

>> from

>>>> the web pages is often quite noticeable on dial-up, and having a

somewhat

>>>> larger cache still seems to help. I haven't yet determined the point

>> where

>>>> it doesn't, but I've stayed at 100 MB. :-)

>>>>

>>>> Gary S. Terhune wrote:

>>>>> If you have more than four of those sub-folders, I suggest you reduce

>> the

>>>>> size limit on the TIF folder. I use the figure 64MB and web-pages

serve

>> up

>>>>> fine. More than that is a waste of space and time (the larger the TIF

>>>>> capacity, the longer it takes for IE to sort through it.)

>>>>>

>>>>> The Local Settings folder indicates some application meant for Windows

>> NT

>>>>> versions (NT4, XP, 2K3 or Vista) decided to make the change for you.

>>>> Perhaps

>>>>> some utility that you installed to guard your internet traffic? Have

you

>>>>> recently installed any such item? Or any other major app? I've seen

this

>>>>> effect, but never pinned down the cause.

>>>>>

>>>>> --

>>>>> Gary S. Terhune

>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>>>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>>>>

>>>>> "Eugenia" <noneofyour@beeswax.non> wrote in message

>>>>> news:OvlCF50$HHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>> Hi.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> W98se.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> My Content.IE5 Folder and subfolders took on a peculiar attribute. I

>> was

>>>>>> looking for something in there and noticed that it no longer

resembled

>>>> the

>>>>>> regular appearance, where one might find 10 or more alphanumerically

>>>> named

>>>>>> subfolders. It looked like the Content.IE5 that one might find in

>> WinXP.

>>>>>> i.e. - generally having roughly 4 alphanumeric subfolders.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I've tried everything: DOS Deltree - which still ends up giving me

the

>>>>>> same

>>>>>> result - and then simply deleting those folders (Temporary Internet

>>>> Files

>>>>>> /

>>>>>> Cookies / History) from another operating system. Same issue

persists.

>>>> :-(

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Even after performing the Deltree of Tempor~1 in DOS, once rebooted,

>>>>>> although Index.dat and desktop.ini are newly created, there are also

4

>>>>>> sub-folders within Content.IE5 which also get created anew. They are

>> void

>>>>>> of

>>>>>> temporary files, with the exception that each contain a Desktop.ini

>> file.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> As a test, I browsed multitude of webpages (including those which

might

>>>>>> assist me) to see if I could get Content.IE5 to create its customary

>>>> large

>>>>>> quantity of different sub-folders, but to no avail. 4 subfolders

were

>>>> all

>>>>>> which were created, despite the fact that the number of different

types

>>>> of

>>>>>> websites /images/ graphics/ banners /etc should have easily caused

>>>>>> Content.IE5 subfolders to mutiply.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I should add that normally, the stored location of the

>> TIF's/Content.IE5

>>>>>> is

>>>>>> in C:\Windows, but eventually I noticed (much later) that

mysteriously,

>>>>>> the

>>>>>> location had somehow changed to C:\Windows\Local Settings. That was

>> where

>>>>>> it

>>>>>> was when I first noticed the 4 subfolder anomaly. I changed it back

to

>>>>>> it's

>>>>>> all-time normal location of C:\Windows. The problem persists despite

>> all

>>>>>> kinds of techniques to fix it..

>>>>>>

>>>>>> This is a new problem I've never before encountered. Can anyone help

me

>>>>>> with

>>>>>> some pointers on how I might rectify this?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Many thanks for reading this and helping.

September 28, 2007

Re: Strange Content.IE5 behavior

Hello. Sorry for the delay in my returning, but unfortunately, "life just

doesn't care" about plans and all that. :-/

Yes, I have reduced the TIF maximum level, now that I've witnessed how those

Content.IE5 subfolders are created. Had as many as 20 created during my

test. lol

The problem (which obviously wasn't one, after all) is solved. Thanks Bill

in Co.

I've not installed any utility - that I can remember - in W98se of late. In

XP, I have, but nothing like those which you asked about. Nor do I recall

installing any "major application" in XP.

Not related (?), but I do motice some peculiarities between W98se and XP (in

a dual-boot configuration, here) and that is mostly regarding the Recycle

Bin. For one thing, the "configure drives independently" setting never seems

to 'stick".

For another thing, if there are items in WinXP RB, when I return to W98se, I

see the RB icon as "full", but upon opening W98se RB, I see nothing in

there. Yet, the "empty recycle bin" command/menu item is active and might

display "Are you sure you want to delete these <x number of> items ?". There

must be some 'conflict' in how these two OS's manage or complete with such

system files/folders/namespace items, or something.

Thanks for you previous reply.

Eugenia

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

news:OC5z8XDAIHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> If you have more than four of those sub-folders, I suggest you reduce the

> size limit on the TIF folder. I use the figure 64MB and web-pages serve up

> fine. More than that is a waste of space and time (the larger the TIF

> capacity, the longer it takes for IE to sort through it.)

>

> The Local Settings folder indicates some application meant for Windows NT

> versions (NT4, XP, 2K3 or Vista) decided to make the change for you.

Perhaps

> some utility that you installed to guard your internet traffic? Have you

> recently installed any such item? Or any other major app? I've seen this

> effect, but never pinned down the cause.

>

> --

> Gary S. Terhune

> MS-MVP Shell/User

> http://www.grystmill.com

>

> "Eugenia" <noneofyour@beeswax.non> wrote in message

> news:OvlCF50$HHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> > Hi.

> >

> > W98se.

> >

> > My Content.IE5 Folder and subfolders took on a peculiar attribute. I was

> > looking for something in there and noticed that it no longer resembled

the

> > regular appearance, where one might find 10 or more alphanumerically

named

> > subfolders. It looked like the Content.IE5 that one might find in WinXP.

> > i.e. - generally having roughly 4 alphanumeric subfolders.

> >

> > I've tried everything: DOS Deltree - which still ends up giving me the

> > same

> > result - and then simply deleting those folders (Temporary Internet

Files

> > /

> > Cookies / History) from another operating system. Same issue persists.

:-(

> >

> > Even after performing the Deltree of Tempor~1 in DOS, once rebooted,

> > although Index.dat and desktop.ini are newly created, there are also 4

> > sub-folders within Content.IE5 which also get created anew. They are

void

> > of

> > temporary files, with the exception that each contain a Desktop.ini

file.

> >

> > As a test, I browsed multitude of webpages (including those which might

> > assist me) to see if I could get Content.IE5 to create its customary

large

> > quantity of different sub-folders, but to no avail. 4 subfolders were

all

> > which were created, despite the fact that the number of different types

of

> > websites /images/ graphics/ banners /etc should have easily caused

> > Content.IE5 subfolders to mutiply.

> >

> > I should add that normally, the stored location of the TIF's/Content.IE5

> > is

> > in C:\Windows, but eventually I noticed (much later) that mysteriously,

> > the

> > location had somehow changed to C:\Windows\Local Settings. That was

where

> > it

> > was when I first noticed the 4 subfolder anomaly. I changed it back to

> > it's

> > all-time normal location of C:\Windows. The problem persists despite all

> > kinds of techniques to fix it..

> >

> > This is a new problem I've never before encountered. Can anyone help me

> > with

> > some pointers on how I might rectify this?

> >

> > Many thanks for reading this and helping.

> >

>

September 28, 2007

Re: Strange Content.IE5 behavior

Hi Everyone,

About TIF file size, I have had problem going to my IE to do anything on

the web. I called ATT and one of the techs told me to set my security to

"accept all cookies" and to set my TIF to 1000. This means NO protection. I

had it set at 50 before this problem and I reset it to100. I am on their

DSL. Have had problems for over a week trying to use the IE. I can use

Outlook Express for a long while, I think. I have not used it for that long.

IE can be used for about 5 to 10 minutes before it comes up with "page

cannot be displayed".I talked to 3 techs at ATT and they all had different

suggestions.

Angel

"Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

news:u1qp#UMAIHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> I use Cache Sentry Pro too. But as I said, the longer I can go without

> having to wait for the page data to be brought in again to the TIF, the

> better. :-) (well, up to a point, as I've limited my TIF to 100 MB.

>

> And as has been noted, there may be a point at which it takes the system

> longer to search thru the TIF to see if its in there already than to

simply

> reload in the page (even on dial-up). Although I haven't (yet) come

> across an authoritative, fully documented article that spells out exactly

> what size TIF that is.

>

> Although, as has been suggested, many seem to recommend limiting the TIF

to

> 50 or 100 MB, or so.

>

> glee wrote:

> > As I said, I had it set to 50MB with dial-up and did not see any

noticable

> > difference from having it set at 100MB in terms of browser performance

and

> > page load speed, either on my home computers or on those at work which

> used

> > dial-up for a period of time. Again, YMMV.

> >

> > I also used the Cache Sentry utility on my system, so that may have

played

> a

> > part. http://www.enigmaticsoftware.com/cachesentry/index.html

> > --

> > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

> > http://dts-l.org/

> > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

> >

> > "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

> > news:ucsy82KAIHA.4612@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> >> The difference is noticeable because the TIF contents eventually gets

> >> replaced, and then you really notice it when you go back to that web

page

> >> (since it has to reload it all in again). Just by some regular web

> >> searching I can easily get the TIF size to go up by 10 MB or more on a

> >> single day (meaning some content is being dumped out to make room for

the

> >> new stuff)

> >>

> >> And how long it takes to reach that point in time is a direct function

of

> >> how large your TIF is; meaning, the larger your TIF, the longer you

get

> to

> >> wait! before you reach that point (of needing to wait until the page

> content

> >> is reloaded into the TIF).

> >>

> >> glee wrote:

> >>> FWIW, I was on a very slow dial-up connection (usually maxed at 26400)

> for

> >>> nearly nine years, and always had my TIF set at 50MB max. I never saw

> the

> >>> least difference when I experimented with making it larger. YMMV. I

> >> always

> >>> recommend a TIF value between 50MB and 100MB for a dial-up connection,

> and

> >>> usually smaller with high speed Internet (cable, DSL). Of course, I

> also

> >>> usually recommend another browser than IE. ;-)

> >>> --

> >>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

> >>> http://dts-l.org/

> >>> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

> >>>

> >>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

> >>> news:u1hx%23qGAIHA.4496@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> >>>> Probably generally a good idea, except for those of us on dial-up, I

> >> think

> >>>> maybe 100 MB is a bit better. The time it takes IE to load stuff in

> >> from

> >>>> the web pages is often quite noticeable on dial-up, and having a

> somewhat

> >>>> larger cache still seems to help. I haven't yet determined the

point

> >> where

> >>>> it doesn't, but I've stayed at 100 MB. :-)

> >>>>

> >>>> Gary S. Terhune wrote:

> >>>>> If you have more than four of those sub-folders, I suggest you

reduce

> >> the

> >>>>> size limit on the TIF folder. I use the figure 64MB and web-pages

> serve

> >> up

> >>>>> fine. More than that is a waste of space and time (the larger the

TIF

> >>>>> capacity, the longer it takes for IE to sort through it.)

> >>>>>

> >>>>> The Local Settings folder indicates some application meant for

Windows

> >> NT

> >>>>> versions (NT4, XP, 2K3 or Vista) decided to make the change for you.

> >>>> Perhaps

> >>>>> some utility that you installed to guard your internet traffic? Have

> you

> >>>>> recently installed any such item? Or any other major app? I've seen

> this

> >>>>> effect, but never pinned down the cause.

> >>>>>

> >>>>> --

> >>>>> Gary S. Terhune

> >>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

> >>>>> http://www.grystmill.com

> >>>>>

> >>>>> "Eugenia" <noneofyour@beeswax.non> wrote in message

> >>>>> news:OvlCF50$HHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> >>>>>> Hi.

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> W98se.

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> My Content.IE5 Folder and subfolders took on a peculiar attribute.

I

> >> was

> >>>>>> looking for something in there and noticed that it no longer

> resembled

> >>>> the

> >>>>>> regular appearance, where one might find 10 or more

alphanumerically

> >>>> named

> >>>>>> subfolders. It looked like the Content.IE5 that one might find in

> >> WinXP.

> >>>>>> i.e. - generally having roughly 4 alphanumeric subfolders.

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> I've tried everything: DOS Deltree - which still ends up giving me

> the

> >>>>>> same

> >>>>>> result - and then simply deleting those folders (Temporary

Internet

> >>>> Files

> >>>>>> /

> >>>>>> Cookies / History) from another operating system. Same issue

> persists.

> >>>> :-(

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> Even after performing the Deltree of Tempor~1 in DOS, once

rebooted,

> >>>>>> although Index.dat and desktop.ini are newly created, there are

also

> 4

> >>>>>> sub-folders within Content.IE5 which also get created anew. They

are

> >> void

> >>>>>> of

> >>>>>> temporary files, with the exception that each contain a Desktop.ini

> >> file.

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> As a test, I browsed multitude of webpages (including those which

> might

> >>>>>> assist me) to see if I could get Content.IE5 to create its

customary

> >>>> large

> >>>>>> quantity of different sub-folders, but to no avail. 4 subfolders

> were

> >>>> all

> >>>>>> which were created, despite the fact that the number of different

> types

> >>>> of

> >>>>>> websites /images/ graphics/ banners /etc should have easily caused

> >>>>>> Content.IE5 subfolders to mutiply.

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> I should add that normally, the stored location of the

> >> TIF's/Content.IE5

> >>>>>> is

> >>>>>> in C:\Windows, but eventually I noticed (much later) that

> mysteriously,

> >>>>>> the

> >>>>>> location had somehow changed to C:\Windows\Local Settings. That was

> >> where

> >>>>>> it

> >>>>>> was when I first noticed the 4 subfolder anomaly. I changed it back

> to

> >>>>>> it's

> >>>>>> all-time normal location of C:\Windows. The problem persists

despite

> >> all

> >>>>>> kinds of techniques to fix it..

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> This is a new problem I've never before encountered. Can anyone

help

> me

> >>>>>> with

> >>>>>> some pointers on how I might rectify this?

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> Many thanks for reading this and helping.

>

September 28, 2007

Re: Strange Content.IE5 behavior

I don't think your problem below is due to the TIF size.

However, one might possibly suspect a "corrupted" TIF, and that would be

different, (and you can rebuild it). But I don't see how "page cannot be

displayed" is related to the TIF size or TIF unless you have a corrupted

TIF, in which case you could try clearing it out and letting it rebuild

itself. I think a TIF setting of 1000 MB is a bit much, however. :-)

Angel wrote:

> Hi Everyone,

> About TIF file size, I have had problem going to my IE to do anything

on

> the web. I called ATT and one of the techs told me to set my security to

> "accept all cookies" and to set my TIF to 1000. This means NO protection.

I

> had it set at 50 before this problem and I reset it to100. I am on their

> DSL. Have had problems for over a week trying to use the IE. I can use

> Outlook Express for a long while, I think. I have not used it for that

long.

> IE can be used for about 5 to 10 minutes before it comes up with "page

> cannot be displayed".I talked to 3 techs at ATT and they all had different

> suggestions.

> Angel

>

> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

> news:u1qp#UMAIHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> I use Cache Sentry Pro too. But as I said, the longer I can go

without

>> having to wait for the page data to be brought in again to the TIF, the

>> better. :-) (well, up to a point, as I've limited my TIF to 100 MB.

>>

>> And as has been noted, there may be a point at which it takes the system

>> longer to search thru the TIF to see if its in there already than to

simply

>> reload in the page (even on dial-up). Although I haven't (yet) come

>> across an authoritative, fully documented article that spells out exactly

>> what size TIF that is.

>>

>> Although, as has been suggested, many seem to recommend limiting the TIF

to

>> 50 or 100 MB, or so.

>>

>> glee wrote:

>>> As I said, I had it set to 50MB with dial-up and did not see any

noticable

>>> difference from having it set at 100MB in terms of browser performance

and

>>> page load speed, either on my home computers or on those at work which

used

>>> dial-up for a period of time. Again, YMMV.

>>>

>>> I also used the Cache Sentry utility on my system, so that may have

played a

>>> part. http://www.enigmaticsoftware.com/cachesentry/index.html

>>> --

>>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

>>> http://dts-l.org/

>>> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

>>>

>>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

>>> news:ucsy82KAIHA.4612@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>> The difference is noticeable because the TIF contents eventually gets

>>>> replaced, and then you really notice it when you go back to that web

page

>>>> (since it has to reload it all in again). Just by some regular web

>>>> searching I can easily get the TIF size to go up by 10 MB or more on a

>>>> single day (meaning some content is being dumped out to make room for

the

>>>> new stuff)

>>>>

>>>> And how long it takes to reach that point in time is a direct function

of

>>>> how large your TIF is; meaning, the larger your TIF, the longer you

get to

>>>> wait! before you reach that point (of needing to wait until the page

>>>> content is reloaded into the TIF).

>>>>

>>>> glee wrote:

>>>>> FWIW, I was on a very slow dial-up connection (usually maxed at 26400)

for

>>>>> nearly nine years, and always had my TIF set at 50MB max. I never saw

the

>>>>> least difference when I experimented with making it larger. YMMV. I

>>>>> always recommend a TIF value between 50MB and 100MB for a dial-up

>>>>> connection, and usually smaller with high speed Internet (cable, DSL).

>>>>> Of course, I also usually recommend another browser than IE. ;-)

>>>>> --

>>>>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

>>>>> http://dts-l.org/

>>>>> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

>>>>>

>>>>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

>>>>> news:u1hx%23qGAIHA.4496@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>>> Probably generally a good idea, except for those of us on dial-up, I

>>>>>> think maybe 100 MB is a bit better. The time it takes IE to load

stuff

>>>>>> in from the web pages is often quite noticeable on dial-up, and

having a

>>>>>> somewhat larger cache still seems to help. I haven't yet determined

>>>>>> the point where it doesn't, but I've stayed at 100 MB. :-)

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune wrote:

>>>>>>> If you have more than four of those sub-folders, I suggest you

reduce

>>>>>>> the size limit on the TIF folder. I use the figure 64MB and

web-pages

>>>>>>> serve up fine. More than that is a waste of space and time (the

larger

>>>>>>> the TIF capacity, the longer it takes for IE to sort through it.)

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> The Local Settings folder indicates some application meant for

Windows

>>>>>>> NT versions (NT4, XP, 2K3 or Vista) decided to make the change for

you.

>>>>>>> Perhaps some utility that you installed to guard your internet

traffic?

>>>>>>> Have you recently installed any such item? Or any other major app?

I've

>>>>>>> seen this effect, but never pinned down the cause.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune

>>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>>>>>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> "Eugenia" <noneofyour@beeswax.non> wrote in message

>>>>>>> news:OvlCF50$HHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>> Hi.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> W98se.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> My Content.IE5 Folder and subfolders took on a peculiar attribute.

I

>>>>>>>> was looking for something in there and noticed that it no longer

>>>>>>>> resembled the regular appearance, where one might find 10 or more

>>>>>>>> alphanumerically named subfolders. It looked like the Content.IE5

that

>>>>>>>> one might find in WinXP. i.e. - generally having roughly 4

>>>>>>>> alphanumeric subfolders.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> I've tried everything: DOS Deltree - which still ends up giving me

the

>>>>>>>> same

>>>>>>>> result - and then simply deleting those folders (Temporary

Internet

>>>>>>>> Files /

>>>>>>>> Cookies / History) from another operating system. Same issue

persists.

>>>>>>>> :-(

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Even after performing the Deltree of Tempor~1 in DOS, once

rebooted,

>>>>>>>> although Index.dat and desktop.ini are newly created, there are

also 4

>>>>>>>> sub-folders within Content.IE5 which also get created anew. They

are

>>>>>>>> void of

>>>>>>>> temporary files, with the exception that each contain a Desktop.ini

>>>>>>>> file.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> As a test, I browsed multitude of webpages (including those which

might

>>>>>>>> assist me) to see if I could get Content.IE5 to create its

customary

>>>>>>>> large quantity of different sub-folders, but to no avail. 4

>>>>>>>> subfolders were all which were created, despite the fact that the

>>>>>>>> number of different types of websites /images/ graphics/ banners

/etc

>>>>>>>> should have easily caused Content.IE5 subfolders to mutiply.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> I should add that normally, the stored location of the

>>>>>>>> TIF's/Content.IE5 is

>>>>>>>> in C:\Windows, but eventually I noticed (much later) that

mysteriously,

>>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>>> location had somehow changed to C:\Windows\Local Settings. That was

>>>>>>>> where it

>>>>>>>> was when I first noticed the 4 subfolder anomaly. I changed it back

to

>>>>>>>> it's

>>>>>>>> all-time normal location of C:\Windows. The problem persists

despite

>>>>>>>> all kinds of techniques to fix it..

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> This is a new problem I've never before encountered. Can anyone

help me

>>>>>>>> with

>>>>>>>> some pointers on how I might rectify this?

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Many thanks for reading this and helping.

September 28, 2007

Re: Strange Content.IE5 behavior

Hi Bill,

I would not use that large TIF. I use the 100. I really did not do that

large TIF file, they also wanted me to accept all cookies. NO, I don't think

so!! Wouldn't "accepting all cookies" cause problems with Malware, etc? I do

not think that they know how to help. My Temp file has "desktop.ini" in it.

The last time I cleared it out I had a problem with my computer and had to

go to backup. I really do not want to do that again. Any suggestions?

Angel

"Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

news:uGLYNkYAIHA.3848@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> I don't think your problem below is due to the TIF size.

> However, one might possibly suspect a "corrupted" TIF, and that would be

> different, (and you can rebuild it). But I don't see how "page cannot

be

> displayed" is related to the TIF size or TIF unless you have a corrupted

> TIF, in which case you could try clearing it out and letting it rebuild

> itself. I think a TIF setting of 1000 MB is a bit much, however.

:-)

>

> Angel wrote:

> > Hi Everyone,

> > About TIF file size, I have had problem going to my IE to do

anything

> on

> > the web. I called ATT and one of the techs told me to set my security to

> > "accept all cookies" and to set my TIF to 1000. This means NO

protection.

> I

> > had it set at 50 before this problem and I reset it to100. I am on their

> > DSL. Have had problems for over a week trying to use the IE. I can use

> > Outlook Express for a long while, I think. I have not used it for that

> long.

> > IE can be used for about 5 to 10 minutes before it comes up with "page

> > cannot be displayed".I talked to 3 techs at ATT and they all had

different

> > suggestions.

> > Angel

> >

> > "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

> > news:u1qp#UMAIHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> >> I use Cache Sentry Pro too. But as I said, the longer I can go

> without

> >> having to wait for the page data to be brought in again to the TIF, the

> >> better. :-) (well, up to a point, as I've limited my TIF to 100

MB.

> >>

> >> And as has been noted, there may be a point at which it takes the

system

> >> longer to search thru the TIF to see if its in there already than to

> simply

> >> reload in the page (even on dial-up). Although I haven't (yet) come

> >> across an authoritative, fully documented article that spells out

exactly

> >> what size TIF that is.

> >>

> >> Although, as has been suggested, many seem to recommend limiting the

TIF

> to

> >> 50 or 100 MB, or so.

> >>

> >> glee wrote:

> >>> As I said, I had it set to 50MB with dial-up and did not see any

> noticable

> >>> difference from having it set at 100MB in terms of browser performance

> and

> >>> page load speed, either on my home computers or on those at work which

> used

> >>> dial-up for a period of time. Again, YMMV.

> >>>

> >>> I also used the Cache Sentry utility on my system, so that may have

> played a

> >>> part. http://www.enigmaticsoftware.com/cachesentry/index.html

> >>> --

> >>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

> >>> http://dts-l.org/

> >>> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

> >>>

> >>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

> >>> news:ucsy82KAIHA.4612@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> >>>> The difference is noticeable because the TIF contents eventually gets

> >>>> replaced, and then you really notice it when you go back to that web

> page

> >>>> (since it has to reload it all in again). Just by some regular

web

> >>>> searching I can easily get the TIF size to go up by 10 MB or more on

a

> >>>> single day (meaning some content is being dumped out to make room for

> the

> >>>> new stuff)

> >>>>

> >>>> And how long it takes to reach that point in time is a direct

function

> of

> >>>> how large your TIF is; meaning, the larger your TIF, the longer you

> get to

> >>>> wait! before you reach that point (of needing to wait until the page

> >>>> content is reloaded into the TIF).

> >>>>

> >>>> glee wrote:

> >>>>> FWIW, I was on a very slow dial-up connection (usually maxed at

26400)

> for

> >>>>> nearly nine years, and always had my TIF set at 50MB max. I never

saw

> the

> >>>>> least difference when I experimented with making it larger. YMMV.

I

> >>>>> always recommend a TIF value between 50MB and 100MB for a dial-up

> >>>>> connection, and usually smaller with high speed Internet (cable,

DSL).

> >>>>> Of course, I also usually recommend another browser than IE. ;-)

> >>>>> --

> >>>>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

> >>>>> http://dts-l.org/

> >>>>> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

> >>>>>

> >>>>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

> >>>>> news:u1hx%23qGAIHA.4496@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> >>>>>> Probably generally a good idea, except for those of us on dial-up,

I

> >>>>>> think maybe 100 MB is a bit better. The time it takes IE to load

> stuff

> >>>>>> in from the web pages is often quite noticeable on dial-up, and

> having a

> >>>>>> somewhat larger cache still seems to help. I haven't yet

determined

> >>>>>> the point where it doesn't, but I've stayed at 100 MB. :-)

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> Gary S. Terhune wrote:

> >>>>>>> If you have more than four of those sub-folders, I suggest you

> reduce

> >>>>>>> the size limit on the TIF folder. I use the figure 64MB and

> web-pages

> >>>>>>> serve up fine. More than that is a waste of space and time (the

> larger

> >>>>>>> the TIF capacity, the longer it takes for IE to sort through it.)

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> The Local Settings folder indicates some application meant for

> Windows

> >>>>>>> NT versions (NT4, XP, 2K3 or Vista) decided to make the change for

> you.

> >>>>>>> Perhaps some utility that you installed to guard your internet

> traffic?

> >>>>>>> Have you recently installed any such item? Or any other major app?

> I've

> >>>>>>> seen this effect, but never pinned down the cause.

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> --

> >>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune

> >>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

> >>>>>>> http://www.grystmill.com

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> "Eugenia" <noneofyour@beeswax.non> wrote in message

> >>>>>>> news:OvlCF50$HHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> >>>>>>>> Hi.

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> W98se.

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> My Content.IE5 Folder and subfolders took on a peculiar

attribute.

> I

> >>>>>>>> was looking for something in there and noticed that it no longer

> >>>>>>>> resembled the regular appearance, where one might find 10 or more

> >>>>>>>> alphanumerically named subfolders. It looked like the Content.IE5

> that

> >>>>>>>> one might find in WinXP. i.e. - generally having roughly 4

> >>>>>>>> alphanumeric subfolders.

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> I've tried everything: DOS Deltree - which still ends up giving

me

> the

> >>>>>>>> same

> >>>>>>>> result - and then simply deleting those folders (Temporary

> Internet

> >>>>>>>> Files /

> >>>>>>>> Cookies / History) from another operating system. Same issue

> persists.

> >>>>>>>> :-(

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> Even after performing the Deltree of Tempor~1 in DOS, once

> rebooted,

> >>>>>>>> although Index.dat and desktop.ini are newly created, there are

> also 4

> >>>>>>>> sub-folders within Content.IE5 which also get created anew. They

> are

> >>>>>>>> void of

> >>>>>>>> temporary files, with the exception that each contain a

Desktop.ini

> >>>>>>>> file.

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> As a test, I browsed multitude of webpages (including those which

> might

> >>>>>>>> assist me) to see if I could get Content.IE5 to create its

> customary

> >>>>>>>> large quantity of different sub-folders, but to no avail. 4

> >>>>>>>> subfolders were all which were created, despite the fact that the

> >>>>>>>> number of different types of websites /images/ graphics/ banners

> /etc

> >>>>>>>> should have easily caused Content.IE5 subfolders to mutiply.

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> I should add that normally, the stored location of the

> >>>>>>>> TIF's/Content.IE5 is

> >>>>>>>> in C:\Windows, but eventually I noticed (much later) that

> mysteriously,

> >>>>>>>> the

> >>>>>>>> location had somehow changed to C:\Windows\Local Settings. That

was

> >>>>>>>> where it

> >>>>>>>> was when I first noticed the 4 subfolder anomaly. I changed it

back

> to

> >>>>>>>> it's

> >>>>>>>> all-time normal location of C:\Windows. The problem persists

> despite

> >>>>>>>> all kinds of techniques to fix it..

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> This is a new problem I've never before encountered. Can anyone

> help me

> >>>>>>>> with

> >>>>>>>> some pointers on how I might rectify this?

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> Many thanks for reading this and helping.

>

September 28, 2007

Re: Strange Content.IE5 behavior

I guess one significant point is whether or not your problem may be due to a

corrupted TIF. Others might weigh in on this.

But if you're willing, you can always clear out the TIF in IE, and then boot

into true DOS mode and use deltree down there to completely delete the TIF

(but be sure to run smartdrv first), and then have a brand new TIF after

rebooting. And I don't think you have anything to lose that way. I

assume you know the procedure.

The deletion of desktop.ini file in the root of the TIF when doing that has

never presented a problem for me, and I've done this clean TIF thing several

times.

Angel wrote:

> Hi Bill,

> I would not use that large TIF. I use the 100. I really did not do that

> large TIF file, they also wanted me to accept all cookies. NO, I don't

think

> so!! Wouldn't "accepting all cookies" cause problems with Malware, etc? I

do

> not think that they know how to help. My Temp file has "desktop.ini" in

it.

> The last time I cleared it out I had a problem with my computer and had to

> go to backup. I really do not want to do that again. Any suggestions?

> Angel

>

> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

> news:uGLYNkYAIHA.3848@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> I don't think your problem below is due to the TIF size.

>> However, one might possibly suspect a "corrupted" TIF, and that would be

>> different, (and you can rebuild it). But I don't see how "page cannot

be

>> displayed" is related to the TIF size or TIF unless you have a corrupted

>> TIF, in which case you could try clearing it out and letting it rebuild

>> itself. I think a TIF setting of 1000 MB is a bit much, however.

> :-)

>>

>> Angel wrote:

>>> Hi Everyone,

>>> About TIF file size, I have had problem going to my IE to do

anything on

>>> the web. I called ATT and one of the techs told me to set my security to

>>> "accept all cookies" and to set my TIF to 1000. This means NO

protection. I

>>> had it set at 50 before this problem and I reset it to100. I am on their

>>> DSL. Have had problems for over a week trying to use the IE. I can use

>>> Outlook Express for a long while, I think. I have not used it for that

long.

>>> IE can be used for about 5 to 10 minutes before it comes up with "page

>>> cannot be displayed".I talked to 3 techs at ATT and they all had

different

>>> suggestions.

>>> Angel

>>>

>>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

>>> news:u1qp#UMAIHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>> I use Cache Sentry Pro too. But as I said, the longer I can go

without

>>>> having to wait for the page data to be brought in again to the TIF, the

>>>> better. :-) (well, up to a point, as I've limited my TIF to 100

MB.

>>>>

>>>> And as has been noted, there may be a point at which it takes the

system

>>>> longer to search thru the TIF to see if its in there already than to

simply

>>>> reload in the page (even on dial-up). Although I haven't (yet) come

>>>> across an authoritative, fully documented article that spells out

exactly

>>>> what size TIF that is.

>>>>

>>>> Although, as has been suggested, many seem to recommend limiting the

TIF to

>>>> 50 or 100 MB, or so.

>>>>

>>>> glee wrote:

>>>>> As I said, I had it set to 50MB with dial-up and did not see any

noticable

>>>>> difference from having it set at 100MB in terms of browser performance

and

>>>>> page load speed, either on my home computers or on those at work which

>>>>> used dial-up for a period of time. Again, YMMV.

>>>>>

>>>>> I also used the Cache Sentry utility on my system, so that may have

>>>>> played a part. http://www.enigmaticsoftware.com/cachesentry/index.html

>>>>> --

>>>>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

>>>>> http://dts-l.org/

>>>>> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

>>>>>

>>>>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

>>>>> news:ucsy82KAIHA.4612@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>> The difference is noticeable because the TIF contents eventually gets

>>>>>> replaced, and then you really notice it when you go back to that web

page

>>>>>> (since it has to reload it all in again). Just by some regular

web

>>>>>> searching I can easily get the TIF size to go up by 10 MB or more on

a

>>>>>> single day (meaning some content is being dumped out to make room for

the

>>>>>> new stuff)

>>>>>>

>>>>>> And how long it takes to reach that point in time is a direct

function of

>>>>>> how large your TIF is; meaning, the larger your TIF, the longer you

get

>>>>>> to wait! before you reach that point (of needing to wait until the

page

>>>>>> content is reloaded into the TIF).

>>>>>>

>>>>>> glee wrote:

>>>>>>> FWIW, I was on a very slow dial-up connection (usually maxed at

26400)

>>>>>>> for nearly nine years, and always had my TIF set at 50MB max. I

never

>>>>>>> saw the least difference when I experimented with making it larger.

>>>>>>> YMMV. I always recommend a TIF value between 50MB and 100MB for a

>>>>>>> dial-up connection, and usually smaller with high speed Internet

>>>>>>> (cable, DSL). Of course, I also usually recommend another browser

than

>>>>>>> IE. ;-) --

>>>>>>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

>>>>>>> http://dts-l.org/

>>>>>>> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>> news:u1hx%23qGAIHA.4496@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>> Probably generally a good idea, except for those of us on dial-up,

I

>>>>>>>> think maybe 100 MB is a bit better. The time it takes IE to load

>>>>>>>> stuff in from the web pages is often quite noticeable on dial-up,

and

>>>>>>>> having a somewhat larger cache still seems to help. I haven't yet

>>>>>>>> determined the point where it doesn't, but I've stayed at 100 MB.

:-)

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune wrote:

>>>>>>>>> If you have more than four of those sub-folders, I suggest you

reduce

>>>>>>>>> the size limit on the TIF folder. I use the figure 64MB and

web-pages

>>>>>>>>> serve up fine. More than that is a waste of space and time (the

larger

>>>>>>>>> the TIF capacity, the longer it takes for IE to sort through it.)

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> The Local Settings folder indicates some application meant for

Windows

>>>>>>>>> NT versions (NT4, XP, 2K3 or Vista) decided to make the change for

>>>>>>>>> you. Perhaps some utility that you installed to guard your

internet

>>>>>>>>> traffic? Have you recently installed any such item? Or any other

>>>>>>>>> major app? I've seen this effect, but never pinned down the cause.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune

>>>>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>>>>>>>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> "Eugenia" <noneofyour@beeswax.non> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>> news:OvlCF50$HHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>> Hi.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> W98se.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> My Content.IE5 Folder and subfolders took on a peculiar

attribute. I

>>>>>>>>>> was looking for something in there and noticed that it no longer

>>>>>>>>>> resembled the regular appearance, where one might find 10 or more

>>>>>>>>>> alphanumerically named subfolders. It looked like the Content.IE5

>>>>>>>>>> that one might find in WinXP. i.e. - generally having roughly 4

>>>>>>>>>> alphanumeric subfolders.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> I've tried everything: DOS Deltree - which still ends up giving

me

>>>>>>>>>> the same

>>>>>>>>>> result - and then simply deleting those folders (Temporary

Internet

>>>>>>>>>> Files /

>>>>>>>>>> Cookies / History) from another operating system. Same issue

>>>>>>>>>> persists. :-(

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Even after performing the Deltree of Tempor~1 in DOS, once

rebooted,

>>>>>>>>>> although Index.dat and desktop.ini are newly created, there are

also

>>>>>>>>>> 4 sub-folders within Content.IE5 which also get created anew.

They

>>>>>>>>>> are void of

>>>>>>>>>> temporary files, with the exception that each contain a

Desktop.ini

>>>>>>>>>> file.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> As a test, I browsed multitude of webpages (including those which

>>>>>>>>>> might assist me) to see if I could get Content.IE5 to create its

>>>>>>>>>> customary large quantity of different sub-folders, but to no

avail.

>>>>>>>>>> 4 subfolders were all which were created, despite the fact that

the

>>>>>>>>>> number of different types of websites /images/ graphics/ banners

/etc

>>>>>>>>>> should have easily caused Content.IE5 subfolders to mutiply.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> I should add that normally, the stored location of the

>>>>>>>>>> TIF's/Content.IE5 is

>>>>>>>>>> in C:\Windows, but eventually I noticed (much later) that

>>>>>>>>>> mysteriously, the

>>>>>>>>>> location had somehow changed to C:\Windows\Local Settings. That

was

>>>>>>>>>> where it

>>>>>>>>>> was when I first noticed the 4 subfolder anomaly. I changed it

back

>>>>>>>>>> to it's

>>>>>>>>>> all-time normal location of C:\Windows. The problem persists

despite

>>>>>>>>>> all kinds of techniques to fix it..

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> This is a new problem I've never before encountered. Can anyone

help

>>>>>>>>>> me with

>>>>>>>>>> some pointers on how I might rectify this?

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks for reading this and helping.

September 29, 2007

Re: Strange Content.IE5 behavior

Hi Bill,

What is Smartdrv?

Angel

"Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

news:ewyzqDhAIHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> I guess one significant point is whether or not your problem may be due to

a

> corrupted TIF. Others might weigh in on this.

>

> But if you're willing, you can always clear out the TIF in IE, and then

boot

> into true DOS mode and use deltree down there to completely delete the TIF

> (but be sure to run smartdrv first), and then have a brand new TIF after

> rebooting. And I don't think you have anything to lose that way. I

> assume you know the procedure.

>

> The deletion of desktop.ini file in the root of the TIF when doing that

has

> never presented a problem for me, and I've done this clean TIF thing

several

> times.

>

> Angel wrote:

> > Hi Bill,

> > I would not use that large TIF. I use the 100. I really did not do

that

> > large TIF file, they also wanted me to accept all cookies. NO, I don't

> think

> > so!! Wouldn't "accepting all cookies" cause problems with Malware, etc?

I

> do

> > not think that they know how to help. My Temp file has "desktop.ini" in

> it.

> > The last time I cleared it out I had a problem with my computer and had

to

> > go to backup. I really do not want to do that again. Any suggestions?

> > Angel

> >

> > "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

> > news:uGLYNkYAIHA.3848@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> >> I don't think your problem below is due to the TIF size.

> >> However, one might possibly suspect a "corrupted" TIF, and that would

be

> >> different, (and you can rebuild it). But I don't see how "page

cannot

> be

> >> displayed" is related to the TIF size or TIF unless you have a

corrupted

> >> TIF, in which case you could try clearing it out and letting it rebuild

> >> itself. I think a TIF setting of 1000 MB is a bit much, however.

> > :-)

> >>

> >> Angel wrote:

> >>> Hi Everyone,

> >>> About TIF file size, I have had problem going to my IE to do

> anything on

> >>> the web. I called ATT and one of the techs told me to set my security

to

> >>> "accept all cookies" and to set my TIF to 1000. This means NO

> protection. I

> >>> had it set at 50 before this problem and I reset it to100. I am on

their

> >>> DSL. Have had problems for over a week trying to use the IE. I can use

> >>> Outlook Express for a long while, I think. I have not used it for that

> long.

> >>> IE can be used for about 5 to 10 minutes before it comes up with

"page

> >>> cannot be displayed".I talked to 3 techs at ATT and they all had

> different

> >>> suggestions.

> >>> Angel

> >>>

> >>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

> >>> news:u1qp#UMAIHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> >>>> I use Cache Sentry Pro too. But as I said, the longer I can go

> without

> >>>> having to wait for the page data to be brought in again to the TIF,

the

> >>>> better. :-) (well, up to a point, as I've limited my TIF to 100

> MB.

> >>>>

> >>>> And as has been noted, there may be a point at which it takes the

> system

> >>>> longer to search thru the TIF to see if its in there already than to

> simply

> >>>> reload in the page (even on dial-up). Although I haven't (yet)

come

> >>>> across an authoritative, fully documented article that spells out

> exactly

> >>>> what size TIF that is.

> >>>>

> >>>> Although, as has been suggested, many seem to recommend limiting the

> TIF to

> >>>> 50 or 100 MB, or so.

> >>>>

> >>>> glee wrote:

> >>>>> As I said, I had it set to 50MB with dial-up and did not see any

> noticable

> >>>>> difference from having it set at 100MB in terms of browser

performance

> and

> >>>>> page load speed, either on my home computers or on those at work

which

> >>>>> used dial-up for a period of time. Again, YMMV.

> >>>>>

> >>>>> I also used the Cache Sentry utility on my system, so that may have

> >>>>> played a part.

http://www.enigmaticsoftware.com/cachesentry/index.html

> >>>>> --

> >>>>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

> >>>>> http://dts-l.org/

> >>>>> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

> >>>>>

> >>>>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

> >>>>> news:ucsy82KAIHA.4612@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> >>>>>> The difference is noticeable because the TIF contents eventually

gets

> >>>>>> replaced, and then you really notice it when you go back to that

web

> page

> >>>>>> (since it has to reload it all in again). Just by some regular

> web

> >>>>>> searching I can easily get the TIF size to go up by 10 MB or more

on

> a

> >>>>>> single day (meaning some content is being dumped out to make room

for

> the

> >>>>>> new stuff)

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> And how long it takes to reach that point in time is a direct

> function of

> >>>>>> how large your TIF is; meaning, the larger your TIF, the longer

you

> get

> >>>>>> to wait! before you reach that point (of needing to wait until the

> page

> >>>>>> content is reloaded into the TIF).

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> glee wrote:

> >>>>>>> FWIW, I was on a very slow dial-up connection (usually maxed at

> 26400)

> >>>>>>> for nearly nine years, and always had my TIF set at 50MB max. I

> never

> >>>>>>> saw the least difference when I experimented with making it

larger.

> >>>>>>> YMMV. I always recommend a TIF value between 50MB and 100MB for a

> >>>>>>> dial-up connection, and usually smaller with high speed Internet

> >>>>>>> (cable, DSL). Of course, I also usually recommend another browser

> than

> >>>>>>> IE. ;-) --

> >>>>>>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

> >>>>>>> http://dts-l.org/

> >>>>>>> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

> >>>>>>> news:u1hx%23qGAIHA.4496@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> >>>>>>>> Probably generally a good idea, except for those of us on

dial-up,

> I

> >>>>>>>> think maybe 100 MB is a bit better. The time it takes IE to

load

> >>>>>>>> stuff in from the web pages is often quite noticeable on dial-up,

> and

> >>>>>>>> having a somewhat larger cache still seems to help. I haven't

yet

> >>>>>>>> determined the point where it doesn't, but I've stayed at 100 MB.

> :-)

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune wrote:

> >>>>>>>>> If you have more than four of those sub-folders, I suggest you

> reduce

> >>>>>>>>> the size limit on the TIF folder. I use the figure 64MB and

> web-pages

> >>>>>>>>> serve up fine. More than that is a waste of space and time (the

> larger

> >>>>>>>>> the TIF capacity, the longer it takes for IE to sort through

it.)

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>> The Local Settings folder indicates some application meant for

> Windows

> >>>>>>>>> NT versions (NT4, XP, 2K3 or Vista) decided to make the change

for

> >>>>>>>>> you. Perhaps some utility that you installed to guard your

> internet

> >>>>>>>>> traffic? Have you recently installed any such item? Or any other

> >>>>>>>>> major app? I've seen this effect, but never pinned down the

cause.

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>> --

> >>>>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune

> >>>>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

> >>>>>>>>> http://www.grystmill.com

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>> "Eugenia" <noneofyour@beeswax.non> wrote in message

> >>>>>>>>> news:OvlCF50$HHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> >>>>>>>>>> Hi.

> >>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>> W98se.

> >>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>> My Content.IE5 Folder and subfolders took on a peculiar

> attribute. I

> >>>>>>>>>> was looking for something in there and noticed that it no

longer

> >>>>>>>>>> resembled the regular appearance, where one might find 10 or

more

> >>>>>>>>>> alphanumerically named subfolders. It looked like the

Content.IE5

> >>>>>>>>>> that one might find in WinXP. i.e. - generally having roughly 4

> >>>>>>>>>> alphanumeric subfolders.

> >>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>> I've tried everything: DOS Deltree - which still ends up giving

> me

> >>>>>>>>>> the same

> >>>>>>>>>> result - and then simply deleting those folders (Temporary

> Internet

> >>>>>>>>>> Files /

> >>>>>>>>>> Cookies / History) from another operating system. Same issue

> >>>>>>>>>> persists. :-(

> >>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>> Even after performing the Deltree of Tempor~1 in DOS, once

> rebooted,

> >>>>>>>>>> although Index.dat and desktop.ini are newly created, there are

> also

> >>>>>>>>>> 4 sub-folders within Content.IE5 which also get created anew.

> They

> >>>>>>>>>> are void of

> >>>>>>>>>> temporary files, with the exception that each contain a

> Desktop.ini

> >>>>>>>>>> file.

> >>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>> As a test, I browsed multitude of webpages (including those

which

> >>>>>>>>>> might assist me) to see if I could get Content.IE5 to create

its

> >>>>>>>>>> customary large quantity of different sub-folders, but to no

> avail.

> >>>>>>>>>> 4 subfolders were all which were created, despite the fact that

> the

> >>>>>>>>>> number of different types of websites /images/ graphics/

banners

> /etc

> >>>>>>>>>> should have easily caused Content.IE5 subfolders to mutiply.

> >>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>> I should add that normally, the stored location of the

> >>>>>>>>>> TIF's/Content.IE5 is

> >>>>>>>>>> in C:\Windows, but eventually I noticed (much later) that

> >>>>>>>>>> mysteriously, the

> >>>>>>>>>> location had somehow changed to C:\Windows\Local Settings. That

> was

> >>>>>>>>>> where it

> >>>>>>>>>> was when I first noticed the 4 subfolder anomaly. I changed it

> back

> >>>>>>>>>> to it's

> >>>>>>>>>> all-time normal location of C:\Windows. The problem persists

> despite

> >>>>>>>>>> all kinds of techniques to fix it..

> >>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>> This is a new problem I've never before encountered. Can anyone

> help

> >>>>>>>>>> me with

> >>>>>>>>>> some pointers on how I might rectify this?

> >>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>> Many thanks for reading this and helping.

>

September 29, 2007

Re: Strange Content.IE5 behavior

It's a dos-based exe program that you have in the \windows folder that

caches a lot of the dish reading and writing activity, so that the hard

drive doesn't go out and read in each file individually and separately in

time, but instead, reads in (or writes) a whole bunch of files in a cache,

for a large group (like 64K of memory's worth at a time, IIRC). Makes a

HUGE difference down there when you end up deleting thousands of small

files. Once I forgot to invoke smartdrv down there (at the command

prompt) before doing the TIF deltree, and it took perhaps 15 minutes for the

TIF to get all the files deleted, vs, perhaps a minute or two.

But before you do any of this in DOS, assuming you do, be sure to first use

IE to clear the cache first to make it even quicker (by deleting most of the

files there). Then you can reboot into true DOS and do the complete

cleanup.

Angel wrote:

> Hi Bill,

> What is Smartdrv?

> Angel

>

> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

> news:ewyzqDhAIHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> I guess one significant point is whether or not your problem may be due

to a

>> corrupted TIF. Others might weigh in on this.

>>

>> But if you're willing, you can always clear out the TIF in IE, and then

boot

>> into true DOS mode and use deltree down there to completely delete the

TIF

>> (but be sure to run smartdrv first), and then have a brand new TIF after

>> rebooting. And I don't think you have anything to lose that way. I

>> assume you know the procedure.

>>

>> The deletion of desktop.ini file in the root of the TIF when doing that

has

>> never presented a problem for me, and I've done this clean TIF thing

several

>> times.

>>

>> Angel wrote:

>>> Hi Bill,

>>> I would not use that large TIF. I use the 100. I really did not do

that

>>> large TIF file, they also wanted me to accept all cookies. NO, I don't

think

>>> so!! Wouldn't "accepting all cookies" cause problems with Malware, etc?

I do

>>> not think that they know how to help. My Temp file has "desktop.ini" in

it.

>>> The last time I cleared it out I had a problem with my computer and had

to

>>> go to backup. I really do not want to do that again. Any suggestions?

>>> Angel

>>>

>>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

>>> news:uGLYNkYAIHA.3848@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>> I don't think your problem below is due to the TIF size.

>>>> However, one might possibly suspect a "corrupted" TIF, and that would

be

>>>> different, (and you can rebuild it). But I don't see how "page

cannot be

>>>> displayed" is related to the TIF size or TIF unless you have a

corrupted

>>>> TIF, in which case you could try clearing it out and letting it rebuild

>>>> itself. I think a TIF setting of 1000 MB is a bit much, however.

:-)

>>>>

>>>> Angel wrote:

>>>>> Hi Everyone,

>>>>> About TIF file size, I have had problem going to my IE to do

anything

>>>>> on the web. I called ATT and one of the techs told me to set my

security

>>>>> to "accept all cookies" and to set my TIF to 1000. This means NO

>>>>> protection. I had it set at 50 before this problem and I reset it

to100.

>>>>> I am on their DSL. Have had problems for over a week trying to use the

>>>>> IE. I can use Outlook Express for a long while, I think. I have not

used

>>>>> it for that long. IE can be used for about 5 to 10 minutes before it

>>>>> comes up with "page cannot be displayed".I talked to 3 techs at ATT

and

>>>>> they all had different suggestions.

>>>>> Angel

>>>>>

>>>>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

>>>>> news:u1qp#UMAIHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>>> I use Cache Sentry Pro too. But as I said, the longer I can go

>>>>>> without having to wait for the page data to be brought in again to

the

>>>>>> TIF, the better. :-) (well, up to a point, as I've limited my

TIF

>>>>>> to 100 MB.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> And as has been noted, there may be a point at which it takes the

system

>>>>>> longer to search thru the TIF to see if its in there already than to

>>>>>> simply reload in the page (even on dial-up). Although I haven't

>>>>>> (yet) come across an authoritative, fully documented article that

spells

>>>>>> out exactly what size TIF that is.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Although, as has been suggested, many seem to recommend limiting the

TIF

>>>>>> to 50 or 100 MB, or so.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> glee wrote:

>>>>>>> As I said, I had it set to 50MB with dial-up and did not see any

>>>>>>> noticable difference from having it set at 100MB in terms of browser

>>>>>>> performance and page load speed, either on my home computers or on

>>>>>>> those at work which used dial-up for a period of time. Again, YMMV.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> I also used the Cache Sentry utility on my system, so that may have

>>>>>>> played a part.

> http://www.enigmaticsoftware.com/cachesentry/index.html

>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

>>>>>>> http://dts-l.org/

>>>>>>> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>> news:ucsy82KAIHA.4612@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>> The difference is noticeable because the TIF contents eventually

gets

>>>>>>>> replaced, and then you really notice it when you go back to that

web

>>>>>>>> page (since it has to reload it all in again). Just by some

>>>>>>>> regular web searching I can easily get the TIF size to go up by 10

MB

>>>>>>>> or more on a single day (meaning some content is being dumped out

to

>>>>>>>> make room for the new stuff)

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> And how long it takes to reach that point in time is a direct

function

>>>>>>>> of how large your TIF is; meaning, the larger your TIF, the longer

>>>>>>>> you get to wait! before you reach that point (of needing to wait

until

>>>>>>>> the page content is reloaded into the TIF).

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> glee wrote:

>>>>>>>>> FWIW, I was on a very slow dial-up connection (usually maxed at

26400)

>>>>>>>>> for nearly nine years, and always had my TIF set at 50MB max. I

never

>>>>>>>>> saw the least difference when I experimented with making it

larger.

>>>>>>>>> YMMV. I always recommend a TIF value between 50MB and 100MB for a

>>>>>>>>> dial-up connection, and usually smaller with high speed Internet

>>>>>>>>> (cable, DSL). Of course, I also usually recommend another browser

than

>>>>>>>>> IE. ;-) --

>>>>>>>>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

>>>>>>>>> http://dts-l.org/

>>>>>>>>> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>> news:u1hx%23qGAIHA.4496@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>> Probably generally a good idea, except for those of us on

dial-up, I

>>>>>>>>>> think maybe 100 MB is a bit better. The time it takes IE to

load

>>>>>>>>>> stuff in from the web pages is often quite noticeable on dial-up,

and

>>>>>>>>>> having a somewhat larger cache still seems to help. I haven't

yet

>>>>>>>>>> determined the point where it doesn't, but I've stayed at 100 MB.

:-)

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>> If you have more than four of those sub-folders, I suggest you

>>>>>>>>>>> reduce the size limit on the TIF folder. I use the figure 64MB

and

>>>>>>>>>>> web-pages serve up fine. More than that is a waste of space and

>>>>>>>>>>> time (the larger the TIF capacity, the longer it takes for IE to

>>>>>>>>>>> sort through it.)

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> The Local Settings folder indicates some application meant for

>>>>>>>>>>> Windows NT versions (NT4, XP, 2K3 or Vista) decided to make the

>>>>>>>>>>> change for you. Perhaps some utility that you installed to guard

>>>>>>>>>>> your internet traffic? Have you recently installed any such

item?

>>>>>>>>>>> Or any other major app? I've seen this effect, but never pinned

>>>>>>>>>>> down the cause.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune

>>>>>>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> "Eugenia" <noneofyour@beeswax.non> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>> news:OvlCF50$HHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> W98se.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> My Content.IE5 Folder and subfolders took on a peculiar

attribute.

>>>>>>>>>>>> I was looking for something in there and noticed that it no

longer

>>>>>>>>>>>> resembled the regular appearance, where one might find 10 or

more

>>>>>>>>>>>> alphanumerically named subfolders. It looked like the

Content.IE5

>>>>>>>>>>>> that one might find in WinXP. i.e. - generally having roughly 4

>>>>>>>>>>>> alphanumeric subfolders.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> I've tried everything: DOS Deltree - which still ends up giving

me

>>>>>>>>>>>> the same

>>>>>>>>>>>> result - and then simply deleting those folders (Temporary

>>>>>>>>>>>> Internet Files /

>>>>>>>>>>>> Cookies / History) from another operating system. Same issue

>>>>>>>>>>>> persists. :-(

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Even after performing the Deltree of Tempor~1 in DOS, once

>>>>>>>>>>>> rebooted, although Index.dat and desktop.ini are newly created,

>>>>>>>>>>>> there are also 4 sub-folders within Content.IE5 which also get

>>>>>>>>>>>> created anew. They are void of

>>>>>>>>>>>> temporary files, with the exception that each contain a

Desktop.ini

>>>>>>>>>>>> file.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> As a test, I browsed multitude of webpages (including those

which

>>>>>>>>>>>> might assist me) to see if I could get Content.IE5 to create

its

>>>>>>>>>>>> customary large quantity of different sub-folders, but to no

avail.

>>>>>>>>>>>> 4 subfolders were all which were created, despite the fact that

the

>>>>>>>>>>>> number of different types of websites /images/ graphics/

banners

>>>>>>>>>>>> /etc should have easily caused Content.IE5 subfolders to

mutiply.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> I should add that normally, the stored location of the

>>>>>>>>>>>> TIF's/Content.IE5 is

>>>>>>>>>>>> in C:\Windows, but eventually I noticed (much later) that

>>>>>>>>>>>> mysteriously, the

>>>>>>>>>>>> location had somehow changed to C:\Windows\Local Settings. That

was

>>>>>>>>>>>> where it

>>>>>>>>>>>> was when I first noticed the 4 subfolder anomaly. I changed it

back

>>>>>>>>>>>> to it's

>>>>>>>>>>>> all-time normal location of C:\Windows. The problem persists

>>>>>>>>>>>> despite all kinds of techniques to fix it..

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> This is a new problem I've never before encountered. Can anyone

>>>>>>>>>>>> help me with

>>>>>>>>>>>> some pointers on how I might rectify this?

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks for reading this and helping.

September 29, 2007

Re: Strange Content.IE5 behavior

Hi Bill,

I am still having trouble. Thinking of deleting the Temp file. I forgot

how to do it from the Windows side. Please refresh my memory.

Angel

"Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

news:u%23K%23HujAIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> It's a dos-based exe program that you have in the \windows folder that

> caches a lot of the dish reading and writing activity, so that the hard

> drive doesn't go out and read in each file individually and separately in

> time, but instead, reads in (or writes) a whole bunch of files in a cache,

> for a large group (like 64K of memory's worth at a time, IIRC). Makes

a

> HUGE difference down there when you end up deleting thousands of small

> files. Once I forgot to invoke smartdrv down there (at the command

> prompt) before doing the TIF deltree, and it took perhaps 15 minutes for

the

> TIF to get all the files deleted, vs, perhaps a minute or two.

>

> But before you do any of this in DOS, assuming you do, be sure to first

use

> IE to clear the cache first to make it even quicker (by deleting most of

the

> files there). Then you can reboot into true DOS and do the complete

> cleanup.

>

> Angel wrote:

> > Hi Bill,

> > What is Smartdrv?

> > Angel

> >

> > "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

> > news:ewyzqDhAIHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> >> I guess one significant point is whether or not your problem may be due

> to a

> >> corrupted TIF. Others might weigh in on this.

> >>

> >> But if you're willing, you can always clear out the TIF in IE, and then

> boot

> >> into true DOS mode and use deltree down there to completely delete the

> TIF

> >> (but be sure to run smartdrv first), and then have a brand new TIF

after

> >> rebooting. And I don't think you have anything to lose that way.

I

> >> assume you know the procedure.

> >>

> >> The deletion of desktop.ini file in the root of the TIF when doing that

> has

> >> never presented a problem for me, and I've done this clean TIF thing

> several

> >> times.

> >>

> >> Angel wrote:

> >>> Hi Bill,

> >>> I would not use that large TIF. I use the 100. I really did not do

> that

> >>> large TIF file, they also wanted me to accept all cookies. NO, I don't

> think

> >>> so!! Wouldn't "accepting all cookies" cause problems with Malware,

etc?

> I do

> >>> not think that they know how to help. My Temp file has "desktop.ini"

in

> it.

> >>> The last time I cleared it out I had a problem with my computer and

had

> to

> >>> go to backup. I really do not want to do that again. Any suggestions?

> >>> Angel

> >>>

> >>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

> >>> news:uGLYNkYAIHA.3848@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> >>>> I don't think your problem below is due to the TIF size.

> >>>> However, one might possibly suspect a "corrupted" TIF, and that would

> be

> >>>> different, (and you can rebuild it). But I don't see how "page

> cannot be

> >>>> displayed" is related to the TIF size or TIF unless you have a

> corrupted

> >>>> TIF, in which case you could try clearing it out and letting it

rebuild

> >>>> itself. I think a TIF setting of 1000 MB is a bit much, however.

> :-)

> >>>>

> >>>> Angel wrote:

> >>>>> Hi Everyone,

> >>>>> About TIF file size, I have had problem going to my IE to do

> anything

> >>>>> on the web. I called ATT and one of the techs told me to set my

> security

> >>>>> to "accept all cookies" and to set my TIF to 1000. This means NO

> >>>>> protection. I had it set at 50 before this problem and I reset it

> to100.

> >>>>> I am on their DSL. Have had problems for over a week trying to use

the

> >>>>> IE. I can use Outlook Express for a long while, I think. I have not

> used

> >>>>> it for that long. IE can be used for about 5 to 10 minutes before

it

> >>>>> comes up with "page cannot be displayed".I talked to 3 techs at ATT

> and

> >>>>> they all had different suggestions.

> >>>>> Angel

> >>>>>

> >>>>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

> >>>>> news:u1qp#UMAIHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> >>>>>> I use Cache Sentry Pro too. But as I said, the longer I can go

> >>>>>> without having to wait for the page data to be brought in again to

> the

> >>>>>> TIF, the better. :-) (well, up to a point, as I've limited my

> TIF

> >>>>>> to 100 MB.

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> And as has been noted, there may be a point at which it takes the

> system

> >>>>>> longer to search thru the TIF to see if its in there already than

to

> >>>>>> simply reload in the page (even on dial-up). Although I haven't

> >>>>>> (yet) come across an authoritative, fully documented article that

> spells

> >>>>>> out exactly what size TIF that is.

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> Although, as has been suggested, many seem to recommend limiting

the

> TIF

> >>>>>> to 50 or 100 MB, or so.

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> glee wrote:

> >>>>>>> As I said, I had it set to 50MB with dial-up and did not see any

> >>>>>>> noticable difference from having it set at 100MB in terms of

browser

> >>>>>>> performance and page load speed, either on my home computers or on

> >>>>>>> those at work which used dial-up for a period of time. Again,

YMMV.

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> I also used the Cache Sentry utility on my system, so that may

have

> >>>>>>> played a part.

> > http://www.enigmaticsoftware.com/cachesentry/index.html

> >>>>>>> --

> >>>>>>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

> >>>>>>> http://dts-l.org/

> >>>>>>> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

> >>>>>>> news:ucsy82KAIHA.4612@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> >>>>>>>> The difference is noticeable because the TIF contents eventually

> gets

> >>>>>>>> replaced, and then you really notice it when you go back to that

> web

> >>>>>>>> page (since it has to reload it all in again). Just by some

> >>>>>>>> regular web searching I can easily get the TIF size to go up by

10

> MB

> >>>>>>>> or more on a single day (meaning some content is being dumped out

> to

> >>>>>>>> make room for the new stuff)

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> And how long it takes to reach that point in time is a direct

> function

> >>>>>>>> of how large your TIF is; meaning, the larger your TIF, the

longer

> >>>>>>>> you get to wait! before you reach that point (of needing to wait

> until

> >>>>>>>> the page content is reloaded into the TIF).

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> glee wrote:

> >>>>>>>>> FWIW, I was on a very slow dial-up connection (usually maxed at

> 26400)

> >>>>>>>>> for nearly nine years, and always had my TIF set at 50MB max. I

> never

> >>>>>>>>> saw the least difference when I experimented with making it

> larger.

> >>>>>>>>> YMMV. I always recommend a TIF value between 50MB and 100MB for

a

> >>>>>>>>> dial-up connection, and usually smaller with high speed Internet

> >>>>>>>>> (cable, DSL). Of course, I also usually recommend another

browser

> than

> >>>>>>>>> IE. ;-) --

> >>>>>>>>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

> >>>>>>>>> http://dts-l.org/

> >>>>>>>>> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

> >>>>>>>>> news:u1hx%23qGAIHA.4496@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> >>>>>>>>>> Probably generally a good idea, except for those of us on

> dial-up, I

> >>>>>>>>>> think maybe 100 MB is a bit better. The time it takes IE to

> load

> >>>>>>>>>> stuff in from the web pages is often quite noticeable on

dial-up,

> and

> >>>>>>>>>> having a somewhat larger cache still seems to help. I haven't

> yet

> >>>>>>>>>> determined the point where it doesn't, but I've stayed at 100

MB.

> :-)

> >>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune wrote:

> >>>>>>>>>>> If you have more than four of those sub-folders, I suggest you

> >>>>>>>>>>> reduce the size limit on the TIF folder. I use the figure 64MB

> and

> >>>>>>>>>>> web-pages serve up fine. More than that is a waste of space

and

> >>>>>>>>>>> time (the larger the TIF capacity, the longer it takes for IE

to

> >>>>>>>>>>> sort through it.)

> >>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>> The Local Settings folder indicates some application meant for

> >>>>>>>>>>> Windows NT versions (NT4, XP, 2K3 or Vista) decided to make

the

> >>>>>>>>>>> change for you. Perhaps some utility that you installed to

guard

> >>>>>>>>>>> your internet traffic? Have you recently installed any such

> item?

> >>>>>>>>>>> Or any other major app? I've seen this effect, but never

pinned

> >>>>>>>>>>> down the cause.

> >>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>> --

> >>>>>>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune

> >>>>>>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

> >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.grystmill.com

> >>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>> "Eugenia" <noneofyour@beeswax.non> wrote in message

> >>>>>>>>>>> news:OvlCF50$HHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi.

> >>>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>> W98se.

> >>>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>> My Content.IE5 Folder and subfolders took on a peculiar

> attribute.

> >>>>>>>>>>>> I was looking for something in there and noticed that it no

> longer

> >>>>>>>>>>>> resembled the regular appearance, where one might find 10 or

> more

> >>>>>>>>>>>> alphanumerically named subfolders. It looked like the

> Content.IE5

> >>>>>>>>>>>> that one might find in WinXP. i.e. - generally having roughly

4

> >>>>>>>>>>>> alphanumeric subfolders.

> >>>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>> I've tried everything: DOS Deltree - which still ends up

giving

> me

> >>>>>>>>>>>> the same

> >>>>>>>>>>>> result - and then simply deleting those folders (Temporary

> >>>>>>>>>>>> Internet Files /

> >>>>>>>>>>>> Cookies / History) from another operating system. Same issue

> >>>>>>>>>>>> persists. :-(

> >>>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>> Even after performing the Deltree of Tempor~1 in DOS, once

> >>>>>>>>>>>> rebooted, although Index.dat and desktop.ini are newly

created,

> >>>>>>>>>>>> there are also 4 sub-folders within Content.IE5 which also

get

> >>>>>>>>>>>> created anew. They are void of

> >>>>>>>>>>>> temporary files, with the exception that each contain a

> Desktop.ini

> >>>>>>>>>>>> file.

> >>>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>> As a test, I browsed multitude of webpages (including those

> which

> >>>>>>>>>>>> might assist me) to see if I could get Content.IE5 to create

> its

> >>>>>>>>>>>> customary large quantity of different sub-folders, but to no

> avail.

> >>>>>>>>>>>> 4 subfolders were all which were created, despite the fact

that

> the

> >>>>>>>>>>>> number of different types of websites /images/ graphics/

> banners

> >>>>>>>>>>>> /etc should have easily caused Content.IE5 subfolders to

> mutiply.

> >>>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>> I should add that normally, the stored location of the

> >>>>>>>>>>>> TIF's/Content.IE5 is

> >>>>>>>>>>>> in C:\Windows, but eventually I noticed (much later) that

> >>>>>>>>>>>> mysteriously, the

> >>>>>>>>>>>> location had somehow changed to C:\Windows\Local Settings.

That

> was

> >>>>>>>>>>>> where it

> >>>>>>>>>>>> was when I first noticed the 4 subfolder anomaly. I changed

it

> back

> >>>>>>>>>>>> to it's

> >>>>>>>>>>>> all-time normal location of C:\Windows. The problem persists

> >>>>>>>>>>>> despite all kinds of techniques to fix it..

> >>>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>> This is a new problem I've never before encountered. Can

anyone

> >>>>>>>>>>>> help me with

> >>>>>>>>>>>> some pointers on how I might rectify this?

> >>>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks for reading this and helping.

>

September 29, 2007

Re: Strange Content.IE5 behavior

Angel wrote:

| Hi Bill,

| I am still having trouble. Thinking of deleting the Temp file. I

| forgot how to do it from the Windows side. Please refresh my memory.

| Angel

"Control Panel, Internet Options, Delete Files button, bolt Delete all

offline content, OK, OK"

That does a credible job, in IE6 anyway. Note: It may take a few

moments: DON"T be impatient. The Index.dat inside Content.IE5 will

retain it's size, but is cleared or reset to emptiness. You still will

see Cookies in the main TIF folder, but all the weirdly named folders in

Content.IE5 will be gone.

These were your Temporary Internet Files, which, since V4, has an

involvement with Windows Update. It's main purpose is to hold

bits/pieces of sites you visit, to make it quicker to load next visit.

Also, it is a work area for OE6. Naturally, TIFs will grow back. It's

size is controllable by the slider & input box under the Settings

button. Mine is set for 125 MB there. Many say to go smaller-- say, 40

MB.

If that fails to get them all, then...

Some Cookies bleed into TIFs, so... "START, Settings, Control Panel,

Internet Options, Delete Cookies button". (Note, some site specific

passwords/settings may be wiped-- but that never bothers me.)

If you STILL have matter in TIFs or in Cookies after that, it is

possible you have a horrible corruption that can likely be cured with a

DOS delete...

Verify, in Windows, where these folders are located before proceeding.

(a) "START button, Find, F/F".

(b) Enter "Cookies, Tempor~1, History" (no quotes) in "Named".

"Folder".

(d) Then click the "Find Now" button.

If it is not in "C:\Windows", adjust the Deltree's below. If you

have more than one of any, then perhaps stop & report back.

Where does it say Temporary Internet Files are located? Use that

path below, but substitute "Tempor~1" for "Temporary Internet Files".

(1) "START, Shut Down, Restart in MS-DOS Mode"

(2) SMARTDRV

This speeds up hard drive processing considerably in DOS--

considerably, & yet it may still seem slow if TIFs are incredibly huge!

(3) DELTREE C:\Windows\Cookies\ /y

These are your Cookies. They may hold settings & passwords, site

specific.

(4) DELTREE C:\Windows\Tempor~1\ /y

These are your Temporary Internet Files. A DOS delete does reset

the Index.dat in Content.IE5 to 32 KB. It won't stay that small for

long. However, Cookies in the top TIF folder would survive this Deltree.

(5) DELTREE C:\Windows\History\ /y

This is a collection of the sites you have visited. It will begin

to grow again, depending upon "Days to keep..." at "Internet Options,

General tab".

(6) EXIT or Ctrl-Alt-Del to Windows

WARNING: DELTREE is a powerful command. It will wipe out the folder you

specify. DO NOT HIT ENTER too soon, or you will wipe out your system.

Get all the way to the end of those DELTREE lines.

| "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

| news:u%23K%23HujAIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

....snip

--

Thanks or Good Luck,

There may be humor in this post, and,

Naturally, you will not sue,

Should things get worse after this,

PCR

pcrrcp@netzero.net

September 30, 2007

Re: Strange Content.IE5 behavior

OK, looks like PCR has already answered it. :-)

Angel wrote:

> Hi Bill,

> I am still having trouble. Thinking of deleting the Temp file. I

forgot

> how to do it from the Windows side. Please refresh my memory.

> Angel

>

> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

> news:u%23K%23HujAIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> It's a dos-based exe program that you have in the \windows folder that

>> caches a lot of the dish reading and writing activity, so that the hard

>> drive doesn't go out and read in each file individually and separately in

>> time, but instead, reads in (or writes) a whole bunch of files in a

cache,

>> for a large group (like 64K of memory's worth at a time, IIRC). Makes

a

>> HUGE difference down there when you end up deleting thousands of small

>> files. Once I forgot to invoke smartdrv down there (at the command

>> prompt) before doing the TIF deltree, and it took perhaps 15 minutes for

the

>> TIF to get all the files deleted, vs, perhaps a minute or two.

>>

>> But before you do any of this in DOS, assuming you do, be sure to first

use

>> IE to clear the cache first to make it even quicker (by deleting most of

the

>> files there). Then you can reboot into true DOS and do the complete

>> cleanup.

>>

>> Angel wrote:

>>> Hi Bill,

>>> What is Smartdrv?

>>> Angel

>>>

>>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

>>> news:ewyzqDhAIHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>> I guess one significant point is whether or not your problem may be due

to

>>>> a corrupted TIF. Others might weigh in on this.

>>>>

>>>> But if you're willing, you can always clear out the TIF in IE, and then

>>>> boot into true DOS mode and use deltree down there to completely delete

>>>> the TIF (but be sure to run smartdrv first), and then have a brand new

TIF

>>>> after rebooting. And I don't think you have anything to lose that

way.

> I

>>>> assume you know the procedure.

>>>>

>>>> The deletion of desktop.ini file in the root of the TIF when doing that

has

>>>> never presented a problem for me, and I've done this clean TIF thing

>>>> several times.

>>>>

>>>> Angel wrote:

>>>>> Hi Bill,

>>>>> I would not use that large TIF. I use the 100. I really did not do

that

>>>>> large TIF file, they also wanted me to accept all cookies. NO, I don't

>>>>> think so!! Wouldn't "accepting all cookies" cause problems with

Malware,

>>>>> etc? I do not think that they know how to help. My Temp file has

>>>>> "desktop.ini" in it. The last time I cleared it out I had a problem

with

>>>>> my computer and had to go to backup. I really do not want to do that

>>>>> again. Any suggestions? Angel

>>>>>

>>>>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

>>>>> news:uGLYNkYAIHA.3848@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>>> I don't think your problem below is due to the TIF size.

>>>>>> However, one might possibly suspect a "corrupted" TIF, and that would

be

>>>>>> different, (and you can rebuild it). But I don't see how "page

cannot

>>>>>> be displayed" is related to the TIF size or TIF unless you have a

>>>>>> corrupted TIF, in which case you could try clearing it out and

letting

>>>>>> it rebuild itself. I think a TIF setting of 1000 MB is a bit

much,

>>>>>> however. :-)

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Angel wrote:

>>>>>>> Hi Everyone,

>>>>>>> About TIF file size, I have had problem going to my IE to do

>>>>>>> anything on the web. I called ATT and one of the techs told me to

set

>>>>>>> my security to "accept all cookies" and to set my TIF to 1000. This

>>>>>>> means NO protection. I had it set at 50 before this problem and I

reset

>>>>>>> it to100. I am on their DSL. Have had problems for over a week

trying

>>>>>>> to use the IE. I can use Outlook Express for a long while, I think.

I

>>>>>>> have not used it for that long. IE can be used for about 5 to 10

>>>>>>> minutes before it comes up with "page cannot be displayed".I talked

to

>>>>>>> 3 techs at ATT and they all had different suggestions.

>>>>>>> Angel

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>> news:u1qp#UMAIHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>> I use Cache Sentry Pro too. But as I said, the longer I can go

>>>>>>>> without having to wait for the page data to be brought in again to

the

>>>>>>>> TIF, the better. :-) (well, up to a point, as I've limited my

TIF

>>>>>>>> to 100 MB.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> And as has been noted, there may be a point at which it takes the

>>>>>>>> system longer to search thru the TIF to see if its in there already

>>>>>>>> than to simply reload in the page (even on dial-up). Although I

>>>>>>>> haven't (yet) come across an authoritative, fully documented

article

>>>>>>>> that spells out exactly what size TIF that is.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Although, as has been suggested, many seem to recommend limiting

the

>>>>>>>> TIF to 50 or 100 MB, or so.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> glee wrote:

>>>>>>>>> As I said, I had it set to 50MB with dial-up and did not see any

>>>>>>>>> noticable difference from having it set at 100MB in terms of

browser

>>>>>>>>> performance and page load speed, either on my home computers or on

>>>>>>>>> those at work which used dial-up for a period of time. Again,

YMMV.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> I also used the Cache Sentry utility on my system, so that may

have

>>>>>>>>> played a part.

>>> http://www.enigmaticsoftware.com/cachesentry/index.html

>>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

>>>>>>>>> http://dts-l.org/

>>>>>>>>> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>> news:ucsy82KAIHA.4612@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>> The difference is noticeable because the TIF contents eventually

gets

>>>>>>>>>> replaced, and then you really notice it when you go back to that

web

>>>>>>>>>> page (since it has to reload it all in again). Just by some

>>>>>>>>>> regular web searching I can easily get the TIF size to go up by

10 MB

>>>>>>>>>> or more on a single day (meaning some content is being dumped out

to

>>>>>>>>>> make room for the new stuff)

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> And how long it takes to reach that point in time is a direct

>>>>>>>>>> function of how large your TIF is; meaning, the larger your TIF,

>>>>>>>>>> the longer you get to wait! before you reach that point (of

needing

>>>>>>>>>> to wait until the page content is reloaded into the TIF).

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> glee wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>> FWIW, I was on a very slow dial-up connection (usually maxed at

>>>>>>>>>>> 26400) for nearly nine years, and always had my TIF set at 50MB

>>>>>>>>>>> max. I never saw the least difference when I experimented with

>>>>>>>>>>> making it larger. YMMV. I always recommend a TIF value between

50MB

>>>>>>>>>>> and 100MB for a dial-up connection, and usually smaller with

high

>>>>>>>>>>> speed Internet (cable, DSL). Of course, I also usually recommend

>>>>>>>>>>> another browser than IE. ;-) --

>>>>>>>>>>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

>>>>>>>>>>> http://dts-l.org/

>>>>>>>>>>> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>> news:u1hx%23qGAIHA.4496@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>> Probably generally a good idea, except for those of us on

dial-up,

>>>>>>>>>>>> I think maybe 100 MB is a bit better. The time it takes IE to

>>>>>>>>>>>> load stuff in from the web pages is often quite noticeable on

>>>>>>>>>>>> dial-up, and having a somewhat larger cache still seems to

help.

>>>>>>>>>>>> I haven't yet determined the point where it doesn't, but I've

>>>>>>>>>>>> stayed at 100 MB. :-)

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you have more than four of those sub-folders, I suggest you

>>>>>>>>>>>>> reduce the size limit on the TIF folder. I use the figure 64MB

and

>>>>>>>>>>>>> web-pages serve up fine. More than that is a waste of space

and

>>>>>>>>>>>>> time (the larger the TIF capacity, the longer it takes for IE

to

>>>>>>>>>>>>> sort through it.)

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Local Settings folder indicates some application meant for

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows NT versions (NT4, XP, 2K3 or Vista) decided to make

the

>>>>>>>>>>>>> change for you. Perhaps some utility that you installed to

guard

>>>>>>>>>>>>> your internet traffic? Have you recently installed any such

item?

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or any other major app? I've seen this effect, but never

pinned

>>>>>>>>>>>>> down the cause.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune

>>>>>>>>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Eugenia" <noneofyour@beeswax.non> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:OvlCF50$HHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> W98se.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My Content.IE5 Folder and subfolders took on a peculiar

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attribute. I was looking for something in there and noticed

that

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it no longer resembled the regular appearance, where one

might

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find 10 or more alphanumerically named subfolders. It looked

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like the Content.IE5 that one might find in WinXP. i.e. -

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> generally having roughly 4 alphanumeric subfolders.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've tried everything: DOS Deltree - which still ends up

giving

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me the same

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> result - and then simply deleting those folders (Temporary

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Internet Files /

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cookies / History) from another operating system. Same issue

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> persists. :-(

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Even after performing the Deltree of Tempor~1 in DOS, once

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rebooted, although Index.dat and desktop.ini are newly

created,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there are also 4 sub-folders within Content.IE5 which also

get

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> created anew. They are void of

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> temporary files, with the exception that each contain a

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Desktop.ini file.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As a test, I browsed multitude of webpages (including those

which

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> might assist me) to see if I could get Content.IE5 to create

its

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> customary large quantity of different sub-folders, but to no

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> avail. 4 subfolders were all which were created, despite the

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fact that the number of different types of websites /images/

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> graphics/ banners /etc should have easily caused Content.IE5

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> subfolders to mutiply.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I should add that normally, the stored location of the

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TIF's/Content.IE5 is

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in C:\Windows, but eventually I noticed (much later) that

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mysteriously, the

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> location had somehow changed to C:\Windows\Local Settings.

That

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was where it

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was when I first noticed the 4 subfolder anomaly. I changed

it

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> back to it's

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all-time normal location of C:\Windows. The problem persists

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> despite all kinds of techniques to fix it..

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is a new problem I've never before encountered. Can

anyone

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> help me with

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some pointers on how I might rectify this?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks for reading this and helping.

September 30, 2007

Re: Strange Content.IE5 behavior

Bill,

No, he did not. After emptying the TIF, the TEMP folder should be

emptied, shouldn't it? That is the one I was going to try to empty it if I

should.

Angel

"Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

news:%230HQZevAIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> OK, looks like PCR has already answered it. :-)

>

> Angel wrote:

> > Hi Bill,

> > I am still having trouble. Thinking of deleting the Temp file. I

> forgot

> > how to do it from the Windows side. Please refresh my memory.

> > Angel

> >

> > "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

> > news:u%23K%23HujAIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> >> It's a dos-based exe program that you have in the \windows folder that

> >> caches a lot of the dish reading and writing activity, so that the hard

> >> drive doesn't go out and read in each file individually and separately

in

> >> time, but instead, reads in (or writes) a whole bunch of files in a

> cache,

> >> for a large group (like 64K of memory's worth at a time, IIRC).

Makes

> a

> >> HUGE difference down there when you end up deleting thousands of small

> >> files. Once I forgot to invoke smartdrv down there (at the command

> >> prompt) before doing the TIF deltree, and it took perhaps 15 minutes

for

> the

> >> TIF to get all the files deleted, vs, perhaps a minute or two.

> >>

> >> But before you do any of this in DOS, assuming you do, be sure to first

> use

> >> IE to clear the cache first to make it even quicker (by deleting most

of

> the

> >> files there). Then you can reboot into true DOS and do the complete

> >> cleanup.

> >>

> >> Angel wrote:

> >>> Hi Bill,

> >>> What is Smartdrv?

> >>> Angel

> >>>

> >>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

> >>> news:ewyzqDhAIHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> >>>> I guess one significant point is whether or not your problem may be

due

> to

> >>>> a corrupted TIF. Others might weigh in on this.

> >>>>

> >>>> But if you're willing, you can always clear out the TIF in IE, and

then

> >>>> boot into true DOS mode and use deltree down there to completely

delete

> >>>> the TIF (but be sure to run smartdrv first), and then have a brand

new

> TIF

> >>>> after rebooting. And I don't think you have anything to lose that

> way.

> > I

> >>>> assume you know the procedure.

> >>>>

> >>>> The deletion of desktop.ini file in the root of the TIF when doing

that

> has

> >>>> never presented a problem for me, and I've done this clean TIF thing

> >>>> several times.

> >>>>

> >>>> Angel wrote:

> >>>>> Hi Bill,

> >>>>> I would not use that large TIF. I use the 100. I really did not

do

> that

> >>>>> large TIF file, they also wanted me to accept all cookies. NO, I

don't

> >>>>> think so!! Wouldn't "accepting all cookies" cause problems with

> Malware,

> >>>>> etc? I do not think that they know how to help. My Temp file has

> >>>>> "desktop.ini" in it. The last time I cleared it out I had a problem

> with

> >>>>> my computer and had to go to backup. I really do not want to do that

> >>>>> again. Any suggestions? Angel

> >>>>>

> >>>>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

> >>>>> news:uGLYNkYAIHA.3848@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> >>>>>> I don't think your problem below is due to the TIF size.

> >>>>>> However, one might possibly suspect a "corrupted" TIF, and that

would

> be

> >>>>>> different, (and you can rebuild it). But I don't see how "page

> cannot

> >>>>>> be displayed" is related to the TIF size or TIF unless you have a

> >>>>>> corrupted TIF, in which case you could try clearing it out and

> letting

> >>>>>> it rebuild itself. I think a TIF setting of 1000 MB is a bit

> much,

> >>>>>> however. :-)

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> Angel wrote:

> >>>>>>> Hi Everyone,

> >>>>>>> About TIF file size, I have had problem going to my IE to do

> >>>>>>> anything on the web. I called ATT and one of the techs told me to

> set

> >>>>>>> my security to "accept all cookies" and to set my TIF to 1000.

This

> >>>>>>> means NO protection. I had it set at 50 before this problem and I

> reset

> >>>>>>> it to100. I am on their DSL. Have had problems for over a week

> trying

> >>>>>>> to use the IE. I can use Outlook Express for a long while, I

think.

> I

> >>>>>>> have not used it for that long. IE can be used for about 5 to 10

> >>>>>>> minutes before it comes up with "page cannot be displayed".I

talked

> to

> >>>>>>> 3 techs at ATT and they all had different suggestions.

> >>>>>>> Angel

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

> >>>>>>> news:u1qp#UMAIHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> >>>>>>>> I use Cache Sentry Pro too. But as I said, the longer I can

go

> >>>>>>>> without having to wait for the page data to be brought in again

to

> the

> >>>>>>>> TIF, the better. :-) (well, up to a point, as I've limited

my

> TIF

> >>>>>>>> to 100 MB.

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> And as has been noted, there may be a point at which it takes the

> >>>>>>>> system longer to search thru the TIF to see if its in there

already

> >>>>>>>> than to simply reload in the page (even on dial-up). Although

I

> >>>>>>>> haven't (yet) come across an authoritative, fully documented

> article

> >>>>>>>> that spells out exactly what size TIF that is.

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> Although, as has been suggested, many seem to recommend limiting

> the

> >>>>>>>> TIF to 50 or 100 MB, or so.

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> glee wrote:

> >>>>>>>>> As I said, I had it set to 50MB with dial-up and did not see any

> >>>>>>>>> noticable difference from having it set at 100MB in terms of

> browser

> >>>>>>>>> performance and page load speed, either on my home computers or

on

> >>>>>>>>> those at work which used dial-up for a period of time. Again,

> YMMV.

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>> I also used the Cache Sentry utility on my system, so that may

> have

> >>>>>>>>> played a part.

> >>> http://www.enigmaticsoftware.com/cachesentry/index.html

> >>>>>>>>> --

> >>>>>>>>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

> >>>>>>>>> http://dts-l.org/

> >>>>>>>>> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

> >>>>>>>>> news:ucsy82KAIHA.4612@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> >>>>>>>>>> The difference is noticeable because the TIF contents

eventually

> gets

> >>>>>>>>>> replaced, and then you really notice it when you go back to

that

> web

> >>>>>>>>>> page (since it has to reload it all in again). Just by some

> >>>>>>>>>> regular web searching I can easily get the TIF size to go up by

> 10 MB

> >>>>>>>>>> or more on a single day (meaning some content is being dumped

out

> to

> >>>>>>>>>> make room for the new stuff)

> >>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>> And how long it takes to reach that point in time is a direct

> >>>>>>>>>> function of how large your TIF is; meaning, the larger your

TIF,

> >>>>>>>>>> the longer you get to wait! before you reach that point (of

> needing

> >>>>>>>>>> to wait until the page content is reloaded into the TIF).

> >>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>> glee wrote:

> >>>>>>>>>>> FWIW, I was on a very slow dial-up connection (usually maxed

at

> >>>>>>>>>>> 26400) for nearly nine years, and always had my TIF set at

50MB

> >>>>>>>>>>> max. I never saw the least difference when I experimented

with

> >>>>>>>>>>> making it larger. YMMV. I always recommend a TIF value between

> 50MB

> >>>>>>>>>>> and 100MB for a dial-up connection, and usually smaller with

> high

> >>>>>>>>>>> speed Internet (cable, DSL). Of course, I also usually

recommend

> >>>>>>>>>>> another browser than IE. ;-) --

> >>>>>>>>>>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

> >>>>>>>>>>> http://dts-l.org/

> >>>>>>>>>>> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

> >>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

> >>>>>>>>>>> news:u1hx%23qGAIHA.4496@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> >>>>>>>>>>>> Probably generally a good idea, except for those of us on

> dial-up,

> >>>>>>>>>>>> I think maybe 100 MB is a bit better. The time it takes IE

to

> >>>>>>>>>>>> load stuff in from the web pages is often quite noticeable on

> >>>>>>>>>>>> dial-up, and having a somewhat larger cache still seems to

> help.

> >>>>>>>>>>>> I haven't yet determined the point where it doesn't, but I've

> >>>>>>>>>>>> stayed at 100 MB. :-)

> >>>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune wrote:

> >>>>>>>>>>>>> If you have more than four of those sub-folders, I suggest

you

> >>>>>>>>>>>>> reduce the size limit on the TIF folder. I use the figure

64MB

> and

> >>>>>>>>>>>>> web-pages serve up fine. More than that is a waste of space

> and

> >>>>>>>>>>>>> time (the larger the TIF capacity, the longer it takes for

IE

> to

> >>>>>>>>>>>>> sort through it.)

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The Local Settings folder indicates some application meant

for

> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows NT versions (NT4, XP, 2K3 or Vista) decided to make

> the

> >>>>>>>>>>>>> change for you. Perhaps some utility that you installed to

> guard

> >>>>>>>>>>>>> your internet traffic? Have you recently installed any such

> item?

> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Or any other major app? I've seen this effect, but never

> pinned

> >>>>>>>>>>>>> down the cause.

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>> --

> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune

> >>>>>>>>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

> >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.grystmill.com

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "Eugenia" <noneofyour@beeswax.non> wrote in message

> >>>>>>>>>>>>> news:OvlCF50$HHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi.

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> W98se.

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> My Content.IE5 Folder and subfolders took on a peculiar

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> attribute. I was looking for something in there and noticed

> that

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it no longer resembled the regular appearance, where one

> might

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> find 10 or more alphanumerically named subfolders. It

looked

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> like the Content.IE5 that one might find in WinXP. i.e. -

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> generally having roughly 4 alphanumeric subfolders.

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've tried everything: DOS Deltree - which still ends up

> giving

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> me the same

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> result - and then simply deleting those folders (Temporary

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Internet Files /

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cookies / History) from another operating system. Same

issue

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> persists. :-(

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Even after performing the Deltree of Tempor~1 in DOS, once

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rebooted, although Index.dat and desktop.ini are newly

> created,

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> there are also 4 sub-folders within Content.IE5 which also

> get

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> created anew. They are void of

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> temporary files, with the exception that each contain a

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Desktop.ini file.

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> As a test, I browsed multitude of webpages (including those

> which

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> might assist me) to see if I could get Content.IE5 to

create

> its

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> customary large quantity of different sub-folders, but to

no

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> avail. 4 subfolders were all which were created, despite

the

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> fact that the number of different types of websites

/images/

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> graphics/ banners /etc should have easily caused

Content.IE5

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> subfolders to mutiply.

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I should add that normally, the stored location of the

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> TIF's/Content.IE5 is

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in C:\Windows, but eventually I noticed (much later) that

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> mysteriously, the

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> location had somehow changed to C:\Windows\Local Settings.

> That

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> was where it

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> was when I first noticed the 4 subfolder anomaly. I changed

> it

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> back to it's

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> all-time normal location of C:\Windows. The problem

persists

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> despite all kinds of techniques to fix it..

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is a new problem I've never before encountered. Can

> anyone

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> help me with

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> some pointers on how I might rectify this?

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks for reading this and helping.

>

September 30, 2007

Re: Strange Content.IE5 behavior

Not necessarily, if it is done in windows. You'll have to go down to DOS

and do the deltree routine, if you really want to completely clean it out,

including the index.dat file. You can't do it in windows. But most

people never go that far, only us nerdy types. :-)

Angel wrote:

> Bill,

> No, he did not. After emptying the TIF, the TEMP folder should be

> emptied, shouldn't it? That is the one I was going to try to empty it if I

> should.

> Angel

>

> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

> news:%230HQZevAIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> OK, looks like PCR has already answered it. :-)

>>

>> Angel wrote:

>>> Hi Bill,

>>> I am still having trouble. Thinking of deleting the Temp file. I

forgot

>>> how to do it from the Windows side. Please refresh my memory.

>>> Angel

>>>

>>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

>>> news:u%23K%23HujAIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>> It's a dos-based exe program that you have in the \windows folder that

>>>> caches a lot of the dish reading and writing activity, so that the hard

>>>> drive doesn't go out and read in each file individually and separately

in

>>>> time, but instead, reads in (or writes) a whole bunch of files in a

cache,

>>>> for a large group (like 64K of memory's worth at a time, IIRC). Makes a

>>>> HUGE difference down there when you end up deleting thousands of small

>>>> files. Once I forgot to invoke smartdrv down there (at the command

>>>> prompt) before doing the TIF deltree, and it took perhaps 15 minutes

for

>>>> the TIF to get all the files deleted, vs, perhaps a minute or two.

>>>>

>>>> But before you do any of this in DOS, assuming you do, be sure to first

use

>>>> IE to clear the cache first to make it even quicker (by deleting most

of

>>>> the files there). Then you can reboot into true DOS and do the

complete

>>>> cleanup.

>>>>

>>>> Angel wrote:

>>>>> Hi Bill,

>>>>> What is Smartdrv?

>>>>> Angel

>>>>>

>>>>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

>>>>> news:ewyzqDhAIHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>>> I guess one significant point is whether or not your problem may be

due

>>>>>> to a corrupted TIF. Others might weigh in on this.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> But if you're willing, you can always clear out the TIF in IE, and

then

>>>>>> boot into true DOS mode and use deltree down there to completely

delete

>>>>>> the TIF (but be sure to run smartdrv first), and then have a brand

new

>>>>>> TIF after rebooting. And I don't think you have anything to lose

that

>>>>>> way. I assume you know the procedure.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> The deletion of desktop.ini file in the root of the TIF when doing

that

>>>>>> has never presented a problem for me, and I've done this clean TIF

thing

>>>>>> several times.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Angel wrote:

>>>>>>> Hi Bill,

>>>>>>> I would not use that large TIF. I use the 100. I really did not

do

>>>>>>> that large TIF file, they also wanted me to accept all cookies. NO,

I

>>>>>>> don't think so!! Wouldn't "accepting all cookies" cause problems

with

>>>>>>> Malware, etc? I do not think that they know how to help. My Temp

file

>>>>>>> has "desktop.ini" in it. The last time I cleared it out I had a

problem

>>>>>>> with my computer and had to go to backup. I really do not want to do

>>>>>>> that again. Any suggestions? Angel

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>> news:uGLYNkYAIHA.3848@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>> I don't think your problem below is due to the TIF size.

>>>>>>>> However, one might possibly suspect a "corrupted" TIF, and that

would

>>>>>>>> be different, (and you can rebuild it). But I don't see how

"page

>>>>>>>> cannot be displayed" is related to the TIF size or TIF unless you

have

>>>>>>>> a corrupted TIF, in which case you could try clearing it out and

>>>>>>>> letting it rebuild itself. I think a TIF setting of 1000 MB is

a

>>>>>>>> bit much, however. :-)

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Angel wrote:

>>>>>>>>> Hi Everyone,

>>>>>>>>> About TIF file size, I have had problem going to my IE to do

>>>>>>>>> anything on the web. I called ATT and one of the techs told me to

set

>>>>>>>>> my security to "accept all cookies" and to set my TIF to 1000.

This

>>>>>>>>> means NO protection. I had it set at 50 before this problem and I

>>>>>>>>> reset it to100. I am on their DSL. Have had problems for over a

week

>>>>>>>>> trying to use the IE. I can use Outlook Express for a long while,

I

>>>>>>>>> think. I have not used it for that long. IE can be used for about

5

>>>>>>>>> to 10 minutes before it comes up with "page cannot be displayed".I

>>>>>>>>> talked to 3 techs at ATT and they all had different suggestions.

>>>>>>>>> Angel

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>> news:u1qp#UMAIHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>> I use Cache Sentry Pro too. But as I said, the longer I can

go

>>>>>>>>>> without having to wait for the page data to be brought in again

to

>>>>>>>>>> the TIF, the better. :-) (well, up to a point, as I've

limited

>>>>>>>>>> my TIF to 100 MB.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> And as has been noted, there may be a point at which it takes the

>>>>>>>>>> system longer to search thru the TIF to see if its in there

already

>>>>>>>>>> than to simply reload in the page (even on dial-up). Although

I

>>>>>>>>>> haven't (yet) come across an authoritative, fully documented

article

>>>>>>>>>> that spells out exactly what size TIF that is.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Although, as has been suggested, many seem to recommend limiting

the

>>>>>>>>>> TIF to 50 or 100 MB, or so.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> glee wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>> As I said, I had it set to 50MB with dial-up and did not see any

>>>>>>>>>>> noticable difference from having it set at 100MB in terms of

browser

>>>>>>>>>>> performance and page load speed, either on my home computers or

on

>>>>>>>>>>> those at work which used dial-up for a period of time. Again,

YMMV.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> I also used the Cache Sentry utility on my system, so that may

have

>>>>>>>>>>> played a part.

>>>>> http://www.enigmaticsoftware.com/cachesentry/index.html

>>>>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>>>>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

>>>>>>>>>>> http://dts-l.org/

>>>>>>>>>>> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>> news:ucsy82KAIHA.4612@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>> The difference is noticeable because the TIF contents

eventually

>>>>>>>>>>>> gets replaced, and then you really notice it when you go back

to

>>>>>>>>>>>> that web page (since it has to reload it all in again).

Just

>>>>>>>>>>>> by some regular web searching I can easily get the TIF size to

go

>>>>>>>>>>>> up by 10 MB or more on a single day (meaning some content is

being

>>>>>>>>>>>> dumped out to make room for the new stuff)

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> And how long it takes to reach that point in time is a direct

>>>>>>>>>>>> function of how large your TIF is; meaning, the larger your

TIF,

>>>>>>>>>>>> the longer you get to wait! before you reach that point (of

needing

>>>>>>>>>>>> to wait until the page content is reloaded into the TIF).

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> glee wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>> FWIW, I was on a very slow dial-up connection (usually maxed

at

>>>>>>>>>>>>> 26400) for nearly nine years, and always had my TIF set at

50MB

>>>>>>>>>>>>> max. I never saw the least difference when I experimented

with

>>>>>>>>>>>>> making it larger. YMMV. I always recommend a TIF value between

>>>>>>>>>>>>> 50MB and 100MB for a dial-up connection, and usually smaller

with

>>>>>>>>>>>>> high speed Internet (cable, DSL). Of course, I also usually

>>>>>>>>>>>>> recommend another browser than IE. ;-) --

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://dts-l.org/

>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:u1hx%23qGAIHA.4496@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Probably generally a good idea, except for those of us on

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dial-up, I think maybe 100 MB is a bit better. The time it

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> takes IE to load stuff in from the web pages is often quite

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> noticeable on dial-up, and having a somewhat larger cache

still

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seems to help. I haven't yet determined the point where it

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't, but I've stayed at 100 MB. :-)

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you have more than four of those sub-folders, I suggest

you

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reduce the size limit on the TIF folder. I use the figure

64MB

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and web-pages serve up fine. More than that is a waste of

space

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and time (the larger the TIF capacity, the longer it takes

for

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IE to sort through it.)

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Local Settings folder indicates some application meant

for

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows NT versions (NT4, XP, 2K3 or Vista) decided to make

the

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change for you. Perhaps some utility that you installed to

guard

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your internet traffic? Have you recently installed any such

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> item? Or any other major app? I've seen this effect, but

never

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pinned down the cause.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Eugenia" <noneofyour@beeswax.non> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:OvlCF50$HHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> W98se.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My Content.IE5 Folder and subfolders took on a peculiar

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attribute. I was looking for something in there and noticed

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that it no longer resembled the regular appearance, where

one

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> might find 10 or more alphanumerically named subfolders. It

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> looked like the Content.IE5 that one might find in WinXP.

i.e.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - generally having roughly 4 alphanumeric subfolders.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've tried everything: DOS Deltree - which still ends up

giving

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me the same

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> result - and then simply deleting those folders (Temporary

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Internet Files /

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cookies / History) from another operating system. Same

issue

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> persists. :-(

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Even after performing the Deltree of Tempor~1 in DOS, once

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rebooted, although Index.dat and desktop.ini are newly

created,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there are also 4 sub-folders within Content.IE5 which also

get

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> created anew. They are void of

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> temporary files, with the exception that each contain a

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Desktop.ini file.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As a test, I browsed multitude of webpages (including those

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which might assist me) to see if I could get Content.IE5 to

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> create its customary large quantity of different

sub-folders,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but to no avail. 4 subfolders were all which were created,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> despite the fact that the number of different types of

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> websites /images/ graphics/ banners /etc should have easily

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> caused Content.IE5 subfolders to mutiply.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I should add that normally, the stored location of the

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TIF's/Content.IE5 is

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in C:\Windows, but eventually I noticed (much later) that

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mysteriously, the

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> location had somehow changed to C:\Windows\Local Settings.

That

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was where it

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was when I first noticed the 4 subfolder anomaly. I changed

it

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> back to it's

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all-time normal location of C:\Windows. The problem

persists

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> despite all kinds of techniques to fix it..

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is a new problem I've never before encountered. Can

anyone

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> help me with

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some pointers on how I might rectify this?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks for reading this and helping.

September 30, 2007

Re: Strange Content.IE5 behavior

Correction on smartdrv:

To be more precise, smartdrv (for DOS) is used to create a disk cache in

conventional memory or extended memory, and (if I have this right), it can

cache up to about 2 MB (so forget the 64K I said below).

But as I said, if you are doing some heavy, multiple file, disk access

activity down there in DOS land, it can make a big difference. And the

converse is also true: if you're not, just ignore this. :-)

Bill in Co. wrote:

> It's a dos-based exe program that you have in the \windows folder that

> caches a lot of the dish reading and writing activity, so that the hard

> drive doesn't go out and read in each file individually and separately in

> time, but instead, reads in (or writes) a whole bunch of files in a cache,

> for a large group (like 64K of memory's worth at a time, IIRC). Makes

a

> HUGE difference down there when you end up deleting thousands of small

> files. Once I forgot to invoke smartdrv down there (at the command

> prompt) before doing the TIF deltree, and it took perhaps 15 minutes for

the

> TIF to get all the files deleted, vs, perhaps a minute or two.

>

> But before you do any of this in DOS, assuming you do, be sure to first

use

> IE to clear the cache first to make it even quicker (by deleting most of

the

> files there). Then you can reboot into true DOS and do the complete

> cleanup.

>

> Angel wrote:

>> Hi Bill,

>> What is Smartdrv?

>> Angel

>>

>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

>> news:ewyzqDhAIHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>> I guess one significant point is whether or not your problem may be due

to a

>>> corrupted TIF. Others might weigh in on this.

>>>

>>> But if you're willing, you can always clear out the TIF in IE, and then

boot

>>> into true DOS mode and use deltree down there to completely delete the

TIF

>>> (but be sure to run smartdrv first), and then have a brand new TIF after

>>> rebooting. And I don't think you have anything to lose that way. I

>>> assume you know the procedure.

>>>

>>> The deletion of desktop.ini file in the root of the TIF when doing that

has

>>> never presented a problem for me, and I've done this clean TIF thing

several

>>> times.

>>>

>>> Angel wrote:

>>>> Hi Bill,

>>>> I would not use that large TIF. I use the 100. I really did not do

that

>>>> large TIF file, they also wanted me to accept all cookies. NO, I don't

>>>> think so!! Wouldn't "accepting all cookies" cause problems with

Malware,

>>>> etc? I do not think that they know how to help. My Temp file has

>>>> "desktop.ini" in it. The last time I cleared it out I had a problem

with

>>>> my computer and had to go to backup. I really do not want to do that

>>>> again. Any suggestions? Angel

>>>>

>>>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

>>>> news:uGLYNkYAIHA.3848@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>> I don't think your problem below is due to the TIF size.

>>>>> However, one might possibly suspect a "corrupted" TIF, and that would

be

>>>>> different, (and you can rebuild it). But I don't see how "page

cannot

>>>>> be displayed" is related to the TIF size or TIF unless you have a

>>>>> corrupted TIF, in which case you could try clearing it out and letting

it

>>>>> rebuild itself. I think a TIF setting of 1000 MB is a bit much,

>>>>> however. :-)

>>>>>

>>>>> Angel wrote:

>>>>>> Hi Everyone,

>>>>>> About TIF file size, I have had problem going to my IE to do

anything

>>>>>> on the web. I called ATT and one of the techs told me to set my

security

>>>>>> to "accept all cookies" and to set my TIF to 1000. This means NO

>>>>>> protection. I had it set at 50 before this problem and I reset it

to100.

>>>>>> I am on their DSL. Have had problems for over a week trying to use

the

>>>>>> IE. I can use Outlook Express for a long while, I think. I have not

used

>>>>>> it for that long. IE can be used for about 5 to 10 minutes before it

>>>>>> comes up with "page cannot be displayed".I talked to 3 techs at ATT

and

>>>>>> they all had different suggestions.

>>>>>> Angel

>>>>>>

>>>>>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

>>>>>> news:u1qp#UMAIHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>> I use Cache Sentry Pro too. But as I said, the longer I can go

>>>>>>> without having to wait for the page data to be brought in again to

the

>>>>>>> TIF, the better. :-) (well, up to a point, as I've limited my

TIF

>>>>>>> to 100 MB.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> And as has been noted, there may be a point at which it takes the

system

>>>>>>> longer to search thru the TIF to see if its in there already than to

>>>>>>> simply reload in the page (even on dial-up). Although I haven't

>>>>>>> (yet) come across an authoritative, fully documented article that

spells

>>>>>>> out exactly what size TIF that is.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Although, as has been suggested, many seem to recommend limiting the

TIF

>>>>>>> to 50 or 100 MB, or so.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> glee wrote:

>>>>>>>> As I said, I had it set to 50MB with dial-up and did not see any

>>>>>>>> noticable difference from having it set at 100MB in terms of

browser

>>>>>>>> performance and page load speed, either on my home computers or on

>>>>>>>> those at work which used dial-up for a period of time. Again,

YMMV.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> I also used the Cache Sentry utility on my system, so that may have

>>>>>>>> played a part.

>> http://www.enigmaticsoftware.com/cachesentry/index.html

>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

>>>>>>>> http://dts-l.org/

>>>>>>>> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>> news:ucsy82KAIHA.4612@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>> The difference is noticeable because the TIF contents eventually

gets

>>>>>>>>> replaced, and then you really notice it when you go back to that

web

>>>>>>>>> page (since it has to reload it all in again). Just by some

>>>>>>>>> regular web searching I can easily get the TIF size to go up by 10

MB

>>>>>>>>> or more on a single day (meaning some content is being dumped out

to

>>>>>>>>> make room for the new stuff)

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> And how long it takes to reach that point in time is a direct

function

>>>>>>>>> of how large your TIF is; meaning, the larger your TIF, the

longer

>>>>>>>>> you get to wait! before you reach that point (of needing to wait

until

>>>>>>>>> the page content is reloaded into the TIF).

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> glee wrote:

>>>>>>>>>> FWIW, I was on a very slow dial-up connection (usually maxed at

>>>>>>>>>> 26400) for nearly nine years, and always had my TIF set at 50MB

max.

>>>>>>>>>> I never saw the least difference when I experimented with making

it

>>>>>>>>>> larger. YMMV. I always recommend a TIF value between 50MB and

100MB

>>>>>>>>>> for a dial-up connection, and usually smaller with high speed

>>>>>>>>>> Internet (cable, DSL). Of course, I also usually recommend

another

>>>>>>>>>> browser than IE. ;-) --

>>>>>>>>>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

>>>>>>>>>> http://dts-l.org/

>>>>>>>>>> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>> news:u1hx%23qGAIHA.4496@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>> Probably generally a good idea, except for those of us on

dial-up, I

>>>>>>>>>>> think maybe 100 MB is a bit better. The time it takes IE to

load

>>>>>>>>>>> stuff in from the web pages is often quite noticeable on

dial-up,

>>>>>>>>>>> and having a somewhat larger cache still seems to help. I

haven't

>>>>>>>>>>> yet determined the point where it doesn't, but I've stayed at

100

>>>>>>>>>>> MB. :-)

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>> If you have more than four of those sub-folders, I suggest you

>>>>>>>>>>>> reduce the size limit on the TIF folder. I use the figure 64MB

and

>>>>>>>>>>>> web-pages serve up fine. More than that is a waste of space and

>>>>>>>>>>>> time (the larger the TIF capacity, the longer it takes for IE

to

>>>>>>>>>>>> sort through it.)

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> The Local Settings folder indicates some application meant for

>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows NT versions (NT4, XP, 2K3 or Vista) decided to make the

>>>>>>>>>>>> change for you. Perhaps some utility that you installed to

guard

>>>>>>>>>>>> your internet traffic? Have you recently installed any such

item?

>>>>>>>>>>>> Or any other major app? I've seen this effect, but never pinned

>>>>>>>>>>>> down the cause.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune

>>>>>>>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> "Eugenia" <noneofyour@beeswax.non> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>> news:OvlCF50$HHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> W98se.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> My Content.IE5 Folder and subfolders took on a peculiar

attribute.

>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was looking for something in there and noticed that it no

longer

>>>>>>>>>>>>> resembled the regular appearance, where one might find 10 or

more

>>>>>>>>>>>>> alphanumerically named subfolders. It looked like the

Content.IE5

>>>>>>>>>>>>> that one might find in WinXP. i.e. - generally having roughly

4

>>>>>>>>>>>>> alphanumeric subfolders.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've tried everything: DOS Deltree - which still ends up

giving me

>>>>>>>>>>>>> the same

>>>>>>>>>>>>> result - and then simply deleting those folders (Temporary

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Internet Files /

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cookies / History) from another operating system. Same issue

>>>>>>>>>>>>> persists. :-(

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Even after performing the Deltree of Tempor~1 in DOS, once

>>>>>>>>>>>>> rebooted, although Index.dat and desktop.ini are newly

created,

>>>>>>>>>>>>> there are also 4 sub-folders within Content.IE5 which also get

>>>>>>>>>>>>> created anew. They are void of

>>>>>>>>>>>>> temporary files, with the exception that each contain a

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Desktop.ini file.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> As a test, I browsed multitude of webpages (including those

which

>>>>>>>>>>>>> might assist me) to see if I could get Content.IE5 to create

its

>>>>>>>>>>>>> customary large quantity of different sub-folders, but to no

>>>>>>>>>>>>> avail. 4 subfolders were all which were created, despite the

fact

>>>>>>>>>>>>> that the number of different types of websites /images/

graphics/

>>>>>>>>>>>>> banners /etc should have easily caused Content.IE5 subfolders

to

>>>>>>>>>>>>> mutiply.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> I should add that normally, the stored location of the

>>>>>>>>>>>>> TIF's/Content.IE5 is

>>>>>>>>>>>>> in C:\Windows, but eventually I noticed (much later) that

>>>>>>>>>>>>> mysteriously, the

>>>>>>>>>>>>> location had somehow changed to C:\Windows\Local Settings.

That

>>>>>>>>>>>>> was where it

>>>>>>>>>>>>> was when I first noticed the 4 subfolder anomaly. I changed it

>>>>>>>>>>>>> back to it's

>>>>>>>>>>>>> all-time normal location of C:\Windows. The problem persists

>>>>>>>>>>>>> despite all kinds of techniques to fix it..

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is a new problem I've never before encountered. Can

anyone

>>>>>>>>>>>>> help me with

>>>>>>>>>>>>> some pointers on how I might rectify this?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks for reading this and helping.

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