Guest Sudy Nim Posted September 26, 2007 Posted September 26, 2007 I do have a couple of questions about the correlation with w98se. Has anyone had experience with a DSL modem/router and w98se? Will it be a (valued) improvement over the dial up modem and is there anything to watch out for? The store guy said that the modem is "on" all the time so virus can be a greater threat. That doesn't appear logical to me unless the computer is also on? TIA. I received the modem from AT&T - Yahoo and purchased a 10/100 EtherFast PCI Adapter from Circus City. I guess I'm ready to install this thing and make the connection. My computer is a Dell XPS-T500 purchased in 1999. I have updated it in 2001 with an Intel 824438X 1 GHz Pentium III and 384 MB of RAM. The FSB is 100 and the BIOS is version A11 the last available from Dell dated 10/13/00 - Phoenix 4.0 release 6.0.
Guest Ron Martell Posted September 26, 2007 Posted September 26, 2007 Re: High-speed Internet & w98se "Sudy Nim" <pseudonym@noplace.com> wrote: >I do have a couple of questions about the correlation with w98se. Has anyone >had experience with a DSL modem/router and w98se? Will it be a (valued) >improvement over the dial up modem and is there anything to watch out for? >The store guy said that the modem is "on" all the time so virus can be a >greater threat. That doesn't appear logical to me unless the computer is >also on? TIA. > >I received the modem from AT&T - Yahoo and purchased a 10/100 EtherFast PCI >Adapter from Circus City. I guess I'm ready to install this thing and make >the connection. > >My computer is a Dell XPS-T500 purchased in 1999. I have updated it in 2001 >with an Intel 824438X 1 GHz Pentium III and 384 MB of RAM. The FSB is 100 >and the BIOS is version A11 the last available from Dell dated 10/13/00 - >Phoenix 4.0 release 6.0. > Should be no problems with that configuration. I have one computer still running 98SE that connects to my router & adsl without any difficulty. Depending on the data rate of your DSL you should get a tremendous speed increase on the Internet. My adsl runs at 1.5 mbs which gives me about 160KB/sec on downloads from good sites, which is 30 to 40 times faster than I ever got with dial-up. Good luck Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada -- Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2008) On-Line Help Computer Service http://onlinehelp.bc.ca "Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference has never been in bed with a mosquito."
Guest dadiOH Posted September 26, 2007 Posted September 26, 2007 Re: High-speed Internet & w98se Sudy Nim wrote: > I do have a couple of questions about the correlation with w98se. > Has anyone had experience with a DSL modem/router and w98se? Will > it be a (valued) improvement over the dial up modem You betcha!! As Martell said, the speed is wonderful. Even a slow DSL (700+) would be a big improvement. It is also nice not to have to listen to the squawking DUN modem as it connects. Not to mention the time that the DUN modem takes to connect. ___________ > and is there > anything to watch out for? There will probably come a time when you won't be able to connect so learn to reset your modem. See manual. -- dadiOH ____________________________ dadiOH's dandies v3.06... ....a help file of info about MP3s, recording from LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that. Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico
Guest Sudy Nim Posted September 26, 2007 Posted September 26, 2007 Re: High-speed Internet & w98se "dadiOH" <dadiOH@guesswhere.com> wrote in message news:OWDn0gHAIHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Sudy Nim wrote: > > I do have a couple of questions about the correlation with w98se. > > Has anyone had experience with a DSL modem/router and w98se? Will > > it be a (valued) improvement over the dial up modem > > You betcha!! As Martell said, the speed is wonderful. Even a slow > DSL (700+) would be a big improvement. It is also nice not to have to > listen to the squawking DUN modem as it connects. Not to mention the > time that the DUN modem takes to connect. > ___________ > > > and is there > > anything to watch out for? > > There will probably come a time when you won't be able to connect so > learn to reset your modem. See manual. > > -- > > dadiOH > Thank you Ron Martell & dadiOH for the uplifting replies. Got to go as I have a modem to install! ;- ) Sudy Nim
Guest lb Posted September 26, 2007 Posted September 26, 2007 Re: High-speed Internet & w98se You should probably install a firewall as your IP address does not change as often or not at all. I would recommend the free version of Outpost as it is low on resources and has some ad blocking features. You can check this site for other suggestions regarding a brand of firewall. Some simple tweaks can improve your throughput. This site has good advice and testing tools: http://www.dslreports.com/tweaks Sudy Nim wrote: > I do have a couple of questions about the correlation with w98se. Has anyone > had experience with a DSL modem/router and w98se? Will it be a (valued) > improvement over the dial up modem and is there anything to watch out for? > The store guy said that the modem is "on" all the time so virus can be a > greater threat. That doesn't appear logical to me unless the computer is > also on? TIA. > > I received the modem from AT&T - Yahoo and purchased a 10/100 EtherFast PCI > Adapter from Circus City. I guess I'm ready to install this thing and make > the connection. > > My computer is a Dell XPS-T500 purchased in 1999. I have updated it in 2001 > with an Intel 824438X 1 GHz Pentium III and 384 MB of RAM. The FSB is 100 > and the BIOS is version A11 the last available from Dell dated 10/13/00 - > Phoenix 4.0 release 6.0.
Guest Galen Somerville Posted September 26, 2007 Posted September 26, 2007 Re: High-speed Internet & w98se "Sudy Nim" <pseudonym@noplace.com> wrote in message news:qOxKi.601968$p47.547788@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... > I do have a couple of questions about the correlation with w98se. Has anyone > had experience with a DSL modem/router and w98se? Will it be a (valued) > improvement over the dial up modem and is there anything to watch out for? > The store guy said that the modem is "on" all the time so virus can be a > greater threat. That doesn't appear logical to me unless the computer is > also on? TIA. > > I received the modem from AT&T - Yahoo and purchased a 10/100 EtherFast PCI > Adapter from Circus City. I guess I'm ready to install this thing and make > the connection. > > My computer is a Dell XPS-T500 purchased in 1999. I have updated it in 2001 > with an Intel 824438X 1 GHz Pentium III and 384 MB of RAM. The FSB is 100 > and the BIOS is version A11 the last available from Dell dated 10/13/00 - > Phoenix 4.0 release 6.0. > > If you install the ATT modem using their disk, beware. If you don't read what's on the screen and just keep clicking "OK", you will end up with a load of Yahoo crap. None of that is needed. Generally there is one screen that has a lot of checkboxes already checked. But the top of the screen says these are auxiliary programs you MAY want. Uncheck them unless you love Yahoo. Galen
Guest Don Phillipson Posted September 26, 2007 Posted September 26, 2007 Re: High-speed Internet & w98se "Sudy Nim" <pseudonym@noplace.com> wrote in message news:qOxKi.601968$p47.547788@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... > I received the modem from AT&T - Yahoo and purchased a 10/100 EtherFast PCI > Adapter from Circus City. I guess I'm ready to install this thing and make > the connection. Several web sites tell us how to do this. People who prefer a printed manual should consider the Osborne Complete Reference Guide to the Internet. This explains both theory and practice (and the 2nd edn. covers Win98 as well as later OSs.) -- Don Phillipson Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada)
Guest Sudy Nim Posted September 27, 2007 Posted September 27, 2007 Re: High-speed Internet & w98se I have AVG Anti-Virus, Ad-Aware Pro and Spybot-Search & Destroy. I read as many pros as cons about firewalls and I'm sitting on the fence, as I don't know if I need one or not. I get the impression that it is necessary with DSL service. But have not read anything specific on the subject.Do you have a recommendation for a particular one? And thanks for that tweaks site. "lb" <ldbrw@my-Dejanews.com> wrote in message news:1190838200.196441.134600@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com... > You should probably install a firewall as your IP address does not > change as often or not at all. I would recommend the free version of > Outpost as it is low on resources and has some ad blocking features. > You can check this site for other suggestions regarding a brand of > firewall. Some simple tweaks can improve your throughput. This site > has good advice and testing tools: http://www.dslreports.com/tweaks > > Sudy Nim wrote: > > I do have a couple of questions about the correlation with w98se. Has anyone > > had experience with a DSL modem/router and w98se? Will it be a (valued) > > improvement over the dial up modem and is there anything to watch out for? > > The store guy said that the modem is "on" all the time so virus can be a > > greater threat. That doesn't appear logical to me unless the computer is > > also on? TIA. > > > > I received the modem from AT&T - Yahoo and purchased a 10/100 EtherFast PCI > > Adapter from Circus City. I guess I'm ready to install this thing and make > > the connection. > > > > My computer is a Dell XPS-T500 purchased in 1999. I have updated it in 2001 > > with an Intel 824438X 1 GHz Pentium III and 384 MB of RAM. The FSB is 100 > > and the BIOS is version A11 the last available from Dell dated 10/13/00 - > > Phoenix 4.0 release 6.0. >
Guest Sudy Nim Posted September 27, 2007 Posted September 27, 2007 Re: High-speed Internet & w98se "Galen Somerville" <galen@surewest.net> wrote in message news:eVrLoyHAIHA.3548@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > > "Sudy Nim" <pseudonym@noplace.com> wrote in message > news:qOxKi.601968$p47.547788@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... > > I do have a couple of questions about the correlation with w98se. Has anyone > > had experience with a DSL modem/router and w98se? Will it be a (valued) > > improvement over the dial up modem and is there anything to watch out for? > > The store guy said that the modem is "on" all the time so virus can be a > > greater threat. That doesn't appear logical to me unless the computer is > > also on? TIA. > > > > I received the modem from AT&T - Yahoo and purchased a 10/100 EtherFast PCI > > Adapter from Circus City. I guess I'm ready to install this thing and make > > the connection. > > > > My computer is a Dell XPS-T500 purchased in 1999. I have updated it in 2001 > > with an Intel 824438X 1 GHz Pentium III and 384 MB of RAM. The FSB is 100 > > and the BIOS is version A11 the last available from Dell dated 10/13/00 - > > Phoenix 4.0 release 6.0. > > > > > If you install the ATT modem using their disk, beware. If you don't read what's on the screen and > just keep clicking "OK", you will end up with a load of Yahoo crap. > > None of that is needed. Generally there is one screen that has a lot of checkboxes already checked. > But the top of the screen says these are auxiliary programs you MAY want. Uncheck them unless you > love Yahoo. > > Galen > > I use w98 Dial-Up Networking (part of MS OS) this does not even require a server CD. Never tried it with DSL only dial up modems. I did open the AT&T | Yahoo Installer CD and there is a ManualSetup icon. Haven't installed it yet. But the manual procedure looks simple and (apparently) installs nothing from the CD? We shall see! Sudy Nim
Guest Sudy Nim Posted September 27, 2007 Posted September 27, 2007 Re: High-speed Internet & w98se "dadiOH" <dadiOH@guesswhere.com> wrote in message news:OWDn0gHAIHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Sudy Nim wrote: > > I do have a couple of questions about the correlation with w98se. > > Has anyone had experience with a DSL modem/router and w98se? Will > > it be a (valued) improvement over the dial up modem > > You betcha!! As Martell said, the speed is wonderful. Even a slow > DSL (700+) would be a big improvement. It is also nice not to have to > listen to the squawking DUN modem as it connects. Not to mention the > time that the DUN modem takes to connect. > ___________ > > > and is there > > anything to watch out for? > > There will probably come a time when you won't be able to connect so > learn to reset your modem. See manual. > > > No manual included with Linksys EtherFast PCI Adapter just an installation sheet. Could not find any at their web site either. AT&T includes only a much to be desired Installation and Feature Guide. No Manual :-( Sudy Nim
Guest Franc Zabkar Posted September 27, 2007 Posted September 27, 2007 Re: High-speed Internet & w98se On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 18:46:46 GMT, "Sudy Nim" <pseudonym@noplace.com> put finger to keyboard and composed: >I do have a couple of questions about the correlation with w98se. Has anyone >had experience with a DSL modem/router and w98se? Will it be a (valued) >improvement over the dial up modem and is there anything to watch out for? >The store guy said that the modem is "on" all the time so virus can be a >greater threat. That doesn't appear logical to me unless the computer is >also on? TIA. My DSL modem/router powers up in logged out mode. I use its browser interface to login and logout, so in that respect it's no worse than dialup. http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/DSL-302G/MainPages/Connection_Status.htm http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/DSL-302G/MainPages/Quick_Configuration.htm - Franc Zabkar -- Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted September 27, 2007 Posted September 27, 2007 Re: High-speed Internet & w98se Do you know the exact model number of the Linksys adapter? What dadiOH said was to keep the modem installed in case you lose the DSL. Then you can easily go back to dial-up. That's an entirely separate issue from anything to do with the ethernet adapter. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com "Sudy Nim" <pseudonym@noplace.com> wrote in message news:MnGKi.141940$ax1.138989@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... > "dadiOH" <dadiOH@guesswhere.com> wrote in message > news:OWDn0gHAIHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> Sudy Nim wrote: >> > I do have a couple of questions about the correlation with w98se. >> > Has anyone had experience with a DSL modem/router and w98se? Will >> > it be a (valued) improvement over the dial up modem >> >> You betcha!! As Martell said, the speed is wonderful. Even a slow >> DSL (700+) would be a big improvement. It is also nice not to have to >> listen to the squawking DUN modem as it connects. Not to mention the >> time that the DUN modem takes to connect. >> ___________ >> >> > and is there >> > anything to watch out for? >> >> There will probably come a time when you won't be able to connect so >> learn to reset your modem. See manual. >> >> >> > No manual included with Linksys EtherFast PCI Adapter just an installation > sheet. Could not find any at their web site either. AT&T includes only a > much to be desired Installation and Feature Guide. No Manual :-( > > Sudy Nim > > >
Guest dadiOH Posted September 27, 2007 Posted September 27, 2007 Re: High-speed Internet & w98se Gary S. Terhune wrote: > Do you know the exact model number of the Linksys adapter? What > dadiOH said was to keep the modem installed in case you lose the > DSL. Then you can easily go back to dial-up. That's an entirely > separate issue from anything to do with the ethernet adapter. But also how to renew the IP address either by using WinIPConfig or unplugging the power to the DSL modem for 15-30 seconds. -- dadiOH ____________________________ dadiOH's dandies v3.06... ....a help file of info about MP3s, recording from LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that. Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico
Guest Sudy Nim Posted September 27, 2007 Posted September 27, 2007 Re: High-speed Internet & w98se "dadiOH" <dadiOH@guesswhere.com> wrote in message news:eHOdq5PAIHA.5980@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > Gary S. Terhune wrote: > > Do you know the exact model number of the Linksys adapter? What > > dadiOH said was to keep the modem installed in case you lose the > > DSL. Then you can easily go back to dial-up. That's an entirely > > separate issue from anything to do with the ethernet adapter. > > But also how to renew the IP address either by using WinIPConfig or > unplugging the power to the DSL modem for 15-30 seconds. > > -- > > dadiOH > > Gary S. Terhune you read my mind! I was pondering what slot to use for the new card and decided I'll just replace the old modem. Glad I stopped to read the mail. The Linksys number is LNE100TX v5.1 and the Setup Wizard v1.5. I just got off the phone with them as the box is dated 2003. They said this is the latest version. dadiOH everyone is answering my questions before I have a chance to ask! <VBG>
Guest lb Posted September 27, 2007 Posted September 27, 2007 Re: High-speed Internet & w98se Sudy Nim wrote: > I have AVG Anti-Virus, Ad-Aware Pro and Spybot-Search & Destroy. > I read as many pros as cons about firewalls and I'm sitting on the fence, > as I don't know if I need one or not. I get the impression that it is > necessary with DSL service. But have not read anything specific on the > subject.Do you have a recommendation for a particular one? And thanks for > that tweaks site. > > "lb" <ldbrw@my-Dejanews.com> wrote in message > news:1190838200.196441.134600@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com... > > You should probably install a firewall as your IP address does not > > change as often or not at all. I would recommend the free version of > > Outpost as it is low on resources and has some ad blocking features. > > You can check this site for other suggestions regarding a brand of > > firewall. Some simple tweaks can improve your throughput. This site > > has good advice and testing tools: http://www.dslreports.com/tweaks > > > > > Sudy Nim wrote: > > > I do have a couple of questions about the correlation with w98se. Has > anyone > > > had experience with a DSL modem/router and w98se? Will it be a (valued) > > > improvement over the dial up modem and is there anything to watch out > for? > > > The store guy said that the modem is "on" all the time so virus can be a > > > greater threat. That doesn't appear logical to me unless the computer is > > > also on? TIA. > > > > > > I received the modem from AT&T - Yahoo and purchased a 10/100 EtherFast > PCI > > > Adapter from Circus City. I guess I'm ready to install this thing and > make > > > the connection. > > > > > > My computer is a Dell XPS-T500 purchased in 1999. I have updated it in > 2001 > > > with an Intel 824438X 1 GHz Pentium III and 384 MB of RAM. The FSB is > 100 > > > and the BIOS is version A11 the last available from Dell dated > 10/13/00 - > > > Phoenix 4.0 release 6.0. > > http://www.oldversion.com/program.php?n=outfirewall All of the versions listed are not free except when you scroll down to the old versions section and look and there is a version 1.0 that IS free. It is a basic firewall that watches ports and checks applications that are trying to connect to the internet. It is small and does not use much resources like some other firewalls. You will see your resources drop by 2-4% only. Works very well with 98. Also be sure to use the phone line filters that they should have given you.
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted September 28, 2007 Posted September 28, 2007 Re: High-speed Internet & w98se So, you have the right drivers for the Linksys adapter? And it works? If you can do that AND keep your old modem, you've got the best arrangement. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com "Sudy Nim" <pseudonym@noplace.com> wrote in message news:FORKi.144252$ax1.99307@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... > > "dadiOH" <dadiOH@guesswhere.com> wrote in message > news:eHOdq5PAIHA.5980@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> Gary S. Terhune wrote: >> > Do you know the exact model number of the Linksys adapter? What >> > dadiOH said was to keep the modem installed in case you lose the >> > DSL. Then you can easily go back to dial-up. That's an entirely >> > separate issue from anything to do with the ethernet adapter. >> >> But also how to renew the IP address either by using WinIPConfig or >> unplugging the power to the DSL modem for 15-30 seconds. >> >> -- >> >> dadiOH >> >> > Gary S. Terhune you read my mind! I was pondering what slot to use for the > new card and decided I'll just replace the old modem. Glad I stopped to > read > the mail. The Linksys number is LNE100TX v5.1 and the Setup Wizard v1.5. > I > just got off the phone with them as the box is dated 2003. They said this > is > the latest version. > > dadiOH everyone is answering my questions before I have a chance to ask! > <VBG> > > > >
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted September 28, 2007 Posted September 28, 2007 Re: High-speed Internet & w98se All routers (or DSL modem/router combined, which is probably what you got with your DSL) protect you in one way by using NAT (network address translation) routing -- your inward IP isn't the same as your outward IP -- and that keeps a lot of possible attacks out. However, most routers also include a true firewall. Assuming this is the case, it isn't at all necessary to include yet another firewall on your system. If all you got was a DSL modem, without included router, then I heartily suggest you buy a router, even if it's only for one machine. NAT is the best protection you can get. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com "Sudy Nim" <pseudonym@noplace.com> wrote in message news:96GKi.141885$ax1.62735@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... >I have AVG Anti-Virus, Ad-Aware Pro and Spybot-Search & Destroy. > I read as many pros as cons about firewalls and I'm sitting on the fence, > as I don't know if I need one or not. I get the impression that it is > necessary with DSL service. But have not read anything specific on the > subject.Do you have a recommendation for a particular one? And thanks for > that tweaks site. > > "lb" <ldbrw@my-Dejanews.com> wrote in message > news:1190838200.196441.134600@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com... >> You should probably install a firewall as your IP address does not >> change as often or not at all. I would recommend the free version of >> Outpost as it is low on resources and has some ad blocking features. >> You can check this site for other suggestions regarding a brand of >> firewall. Some simple tweaks can improve your throughput. This site >> has good advice and testing tools: http://www.dslreports.com/tweaks > >> >> Sudy Nim wrote: >> > I do have a couple of questions about the correlation with w98se. Has > anyone >> > had experience with a DSL modem/router and w98se? Will it be a (valued) >> > improvement over the dial up modem and is there anything to watch out > for? >> > The store guy said that the modem is "on" all the time so virus can be >> > a >> > greater threat. That doesn't appear logical to me unless the computer >> > is >> > also on? TIA. >> > >> > I received the modem from AT&T - Yahoo and purchased a 10/100 EtherFast > PCI >> > Adapter from Circus City. I guess I'm ready to install this thing and > make >> > the connection. >> > >> > My computer is a Dell XPS-T500 purchased in 1999. I have updated it in > 2001 >> > with an Intel 824438X 1 GHz Pentium III and 384 MB of RAM. The FSB is > 100 >> > and the BIOS is version A11 the last available from Dell dated > 10/13/00 - >> > Phoenix 4.0 release 6.0. >> > > > > > >
Guest Dan Posted September 28, 2007 Posted September 28, 2007 Re: High-speed Internet & w98se Thank you so much for that great coverage of NAT and routers because that is exactly the answer I was looking for as well but could not put it into words like you just did Gary. I really appreciate the effort.
Guest Gary S. Terhune Posted September 28, 2007 Posted September 28, 2007 Re: High-speed Internet & w98se Except that I should have qualified that to "most 'home/office' routers", if you know what I mean. I'm sure there are routers that do not use NAT....I think... I think I'll go to bed now. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:ED8D87A4-0C32-4792-AC6E-97CB02FE3B1B@microsoft.com... > Thank you so much for that great coverage of NAT and routers because that > is > exactly the answer I was looking for as well but could not put it into > words > like you just did Gary. I really appreciate the effort.
Guest Dan Posted October 3, 2007 Posted October 3, 2007 Re: High-speed Internet & w98se I read in the newspapers that DOD has firewalls that can hack your system if anyone tries to get in theres. Do you know anything more about this and I read that recently unclassfied Pentagon emails were hacked from China and a 6 million dollar data base was recently hacked. It certainly is getting bad out there. "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: > Except that I should have qualified that to "most 'home/office' routers", if > you know what I mean. I'm sure there are routers that do not use NAT....I > think... I think I'll go to bed now. > > -- > Gary S. Terhune > MS-MVP Shell/User > http://www.grystmill.com > > "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:ED8D87A4-0C32-4792-AC6E-97CB02FE3B1B@microsoft.com... > > Thank you so much for that great coverage of NAT and routers because that > > is > > exactly the answer I was looking for as well but could not put it into > > words > > like you just did Gary. I really appreciate the effort. > > >
Guest Cagey Bee Posted November 6, 2007 Posted November 6, 2007 Re: High-speed Internet & w98se > I use w98 Dial-Up Networking (part of MS OS) this does not even require a > server CD. Never tried it with DSL only dial up modems. > > I did open the AT&T | Yahoo Installer CD and there is a ManualSetup icon. > Haven't installed it yet. But the manual procedure looks simple and > (apparently) installs nothing from the CD? We shall see! > > Sudy Nim Sudy, Was your AT&T/Yahoo installation successful? I will be doing the same thing in a few days and would appreciate any tips you might have. Kevin
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