Fatal exceptions

[Guest vandenplas]

Hello. I'm running Windows 98SE on a 433mhz Gateway with 256mb. For the

last month or two I've only been able to read/write 3 or 4 emails before I

have to restart the computer. Same thing holds true for surfing the web.

I've actually been putting up with this but now I can connect to Aol but it

freezes shortly after the welcome screen loads. In the last three days I've

had 9 different fatal exceptions. I have tried searching each on on the

internet from my other computer but don't find them mentioned anywhere. I

ran memtest from microsoft but it said my memory was fine. Any suggestions?

 

Cheers, John

[Guest Bill Watt]

Re: Fatal exceptions

 

On Mon, 1 Oct 2007 13:51:33 -0700, vandenplas

<vandenplas@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>Hello. I'm running Windows 98SE on a 433mhz Gateway with 256mb. For the

>last month or two I've only been able to read/write 3 or 4 emails before I

>have to restart the computer. Same thing holds true for surfing the web.

>I've actually been putting up with this but now I can connect to Aol but it

>freezes shortly after the welcome screen loads. In the last three days I've

>had 9 different fatal exceptions. I have tried searching each on on the

>internet from my other computer but don't find them mentioned anywhere. I

>ran memtest from microsoft but it said my memory was fine. Any suggestions?

>

> Cheers, John

 

See if your error message is listed here.

Fatal Exception 0E Errors

http://www.helpwithwindows.com/techfiles/fatal-0e-errors.html

 

Regards,

 

Bill Watt

Win98 Computer Help & Other Information http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/

[Guest vandenplas]

Re: Fatal exceptions

 

None of my fatal exceptions were listed on that site. Oddly, two of the

Fatal OE's linked to an article for Windows ME. The article mentioned how,

in Win ME, to access detailed info on error messages.

 

"Bill Watt" wrote:

> On Mon, 1 Oct 2007 13:51:33 -0700, vandenplas

> <vandenplas@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>

> >Hello. I'm running Windows 98SE on a 433mhz Gateway with 256mb. For the

> >last month or two I've only been able to read/write 3 or 4 emails before I

> >have to restart the computer. Same thing holds true for surfing the web.

> >I've actually been putting up with this but now I can connect to Aol but it

> >freezes shortly after the welcome screen loads. In the last three days I've

> >had 9 different fatal exceptions. I have tried searching each on on the

> >internet from my other computer but don't find them mentioned anywhere. I

> >ran memtest from microsoft but it said my memory was fine. Any suggestions?

> >

> > Cheers, John

>

> See if your error message is listed here.

> Fatal Exception 0E Errors

> http://www.helpwithwindows.com/techfiles/fatal-0e-errors.html

>

> Regards,

>

> Bill Watt

> Win98 Computer Help & Other Information http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/

>

>

[Guest glee]

Re: Fatal exceptions

 

....and the 9 fatal exceptions are what exactly, word for word?

 

What Are Fatal Exception Errors

http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=150314

 

Bad RAM Causes Fatal Exception Errors Running Windows 95/98:

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=138788

 

Err Msg: A Fatal Exception 0E Has Occurred at 0028

http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=189655

 

"Fatal Exception" Error Message When You Browse the Internet with a Cable Modem

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=298576

 

Fatal Exception Error When You Use Photo Editing Program

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=302869

 

"Fatal Exception 0D" Error Message Installing Program

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=162390

 

"Fatal Exception 0E" Error Message When Running McAfee VirusScan

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=177672

 

Fatal Exception 0E Shutting Down Using a Matrox Video Adapter

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=253241

--

Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

http://dts-l.org/

http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

 

 

"vandenplas" <vandenplas@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:BBF73E68-2146-4A68-BE46-2E59FCE2D06E@microsoft.com...

> Hello. I'm running Windows 98SE on a 433mhz Gateway with 256mb. For the

> last month or two I've only been able to read/write 3 or 4 emails before I

> have to restart the computer. Same thing holds true for surfing the web.

> I've actually been putting up with this but now I can connect to Aol but it

> freezes shortly after the welcome screen loads. In the last three days I've

> had 9 different fatal exceptions. I have tried searching each on on the

> internet from my other computer but don't find them mentioned anywhere. I

> ran memtest from microsoft but it said my memory was fine. Any suggestions?

>

> Cheers, John

[Guest vandenplas]

Re: Fatal exceptions

 

Ok, here goes...

 

OD 0909:01672468B

0246:016747FB

30AF:016F6B97

0202:01674096

2FAF:016F6B97

168F:016775E5

 

OE 1454:0167268B

0187:BFF9DFFF

0187:BFF8976B

 

It seems that I'm at the point now where any time I try to launch a program

it freezes my computer. I don't know if it means anything but each time I

get another fatal exception the number is slightly different whether it's an

OE or OD error. In fact, the exact letter/number sequence has yet to repeat.

It's weird because until recently my Win98SE machine has always been more

stable than my Win ME machine.

 

Cheers, John

 

"glee" wrote:

> ....and the 9 fatal exceptions are what exactly, word for word?

>

> What Are Fatal Exception Errors

> http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=150314

>

> Bad RAM Causes Fatal Exception Errors Running Windows 95/98:

> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=138788

>

> Err Msg: A Fatal Exception 0E Has Occurred at 0028

> http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=189655

>

> "Fatal Exception" Error Message When You Browse the Internet with a Cable Modem

> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=298576

>

> Fatal Exception Error When You Use Photo Editing Program

> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=302869

>

> "Fatal Exception 0D" Error Message Installing Program

> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=162390

>

> "Fatal Exception 0E" Error Message When Running McAfee VirusScan

> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=177672

>

> Fatal Exception 0E Shutting Down Using a Matrox Video Adapter

> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=253241

> --

> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

> http://dts-l.org/

> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

>

>

> "vandenplas" <vandenplas@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:BBF73E68-2146-4A68-BE46-2E59FCE2D06E@microsoft.com...

> > Hello. I'm running Windows 98SE on a 433mhz Gateway with 256mb. For the

> > last month or two I've only been able to read/write 3 or 4 emails before I

> > have to restart the computer. Same thing holds true for surfing the web.

> > I've actually been putting up with this but now I can connect to Aol but it

> > freezes shortly after the welcome screen loads. In the last three days I've

> > had 9 different fatal exceptions. I have tried searching each on on the

> > internet from my other computer but don't find them mentioned anywhere. I

> > ran memtest from microsoft but it said my memory was fine. Any suggestions?

> >

> > Cheers, John

>

>

[Guest glee]

Re: Fatal exceptions

 

Do none of the errors name a file at the end?

 

Example:

Fatal exception 0D at 168F:016775E5 in VxD somefilename

 

Have you checked your RAM?

Windows Memory Tester

http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp

 

Are you getting the errors in Safe Mode?

 

To start in Safe Mode:

- Start the computer and hold down the CTRL key till the Windows 98 Startup menu

(boot menu) appears.

OR

- Repeatedly tap the F8 key after the memory count to bring up the boot menu.

- Use the arrow keys to select "Safe Mode" and press Enter.

--

Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

http://dts-l.org/

http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

 

 

"vandenplas" <vandenplas@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:E88060C5-8159-4CFB-94C0-E6F9310B9971@microsoft.com...

> Ok, here goes...

>

> OD 0909:01672468B

> 0246:016747FB

> 30AF:016F6B97

> 0202:01674096

> 2FAF:016F6B97

> 168F:016775E5

>

> OE 1454:0167268B

> 0187:BFF9DFFF

> 0187:BFF8976B

>

> It seems that I'm at the point now where any time I try to launch a program

> it freezes my computer. I don't know if it means anything but each time I

> get another fatal exception the number is slightly different whether it's an

> OE or OD error. In fact, the exact letter/number sequence has yet to repeat.

> It's weird because until recently my Win98SE machine has always been more

> stable than my Win ME machine.

>

> Cheers, John

>

> "glee" wrote:

>

>> ....and the 9 fatal exceptions are what exactly, word for word?

>>

>> What Are Fatal Exception Errors

>> http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=150314

>>

>> Bad RAM Causes Fatal Exception Errors Running Windows 95/98:

>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=138788

>>

>> Err Msg: A Fatal Exception 0E Has Occurred at 0028

>> http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=189655

>>

>> "Fatal Exception" Error Message When You Browse the Internet with a Cable Modem

>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=298576

>>

>> Fatal Exception Error When You Use Photo Editing Program

>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=302869

>>

>> "Fatal Exception 0D" Error Message Installing Program

>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=162390

>>

>> "Fatal Exception 0E" Error Message When Running McAfee VirusScan

>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=177672

>>

>> Fatal Exception 0E Shutting Down Using a Matrox Video Adapter

>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=253241

>> --

>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

>> http://dts-l.org/

>> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

>>

>>

>> "vandenplas" <vandenplas@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:BBF73E68-2146-4A68-BE46-2E59FCE2D06E@microsoft.com...

>> > Hello. I'm running Windows 98SE on a 433mhz Gateway with 256mb. For the

>> > last month or two I've only been able to read/write 3 or 4 emails before I

>> > have to restart the computer. Same thing holds true for surfing the web.

>> > I've actually been putting up with this but now I can connect to Aol but it

>> > freezes shortly after the welcome screen loads. In the last three days I've

>> > had 9 different fatal exceptions. I have tried searching each on on the

>> > internet from my other computer but don't find them mentioned anywhere. I

>> > ran memtest from microsoft but it said my memory was fine. Any suggestions?

>> >

>> > Cheers, John

>>

>>

[Guest vandenplas]

Re: Fatal exceptions

 

I tried using the computer again today. The first few times all I got was

the "System has become unstable" blue screen. When I finally got a fatal

exception blue screen it was just OD at.... Then it said the current

application would be terminated. No file name. I did download the memtest

from microsoft and let it run about five times but it reported no errors. I

did not run the extended test. The one where...I think you press "T"

Should I run that one as well?

 

"glee" wrote:

> Do none of the errors name a file at the end?

>

> Example:

> Fatal exception 0D at 168F:016775E5 in VxD somefilename

>

> Have you checked your RAM?

> Windows Memory Tester

> http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp

>

> Are you getting the errors in Safe Mode?

>

> To start in Safe Mode:

> - Start the computer and hold down the CTRL key till the Windows 98 Startup menu

> (boot menu) appears.

> OR

> - Repeatedly tap the F8 key after the memory count to bring up the boot menu.

> - Use the arrow keys to select "Safe Mode" and press Enter.

> --

> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

> http://dts-l.org/

> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

>

>

> "vandenplas" <vandenplas@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:E88060C5-8159-4CFB-94C0-E6F9310B9971@microsoft.com...

> > Ok, here goes...

> >

> > OD 0909:01672468B

> > 0246:016747FB

> > 30AF:016F6B97

> > 0202:01674096

> > 2FAF:016F6B97

> > 168F:016775E5

> >

> > OE 1454:0167268B

> > 0187:BFF9DFFF

> > 0187:BFF8976B

> >

> > It seems that I'm at the point now where any time I try to launch a program

> > it freezes my computer. I don't know if it means anything but each time I

> > get another fatal exception the number is slightly different whether it's an

> > OE or OD error. In fact, the exact letter/number sequence has yet to repeat.

> > It's weird because until recently my Win98SE machine has always been more

> > stable than my Win ME machine.

> >

> > Cheers, John

> >

> > "glee" wrote:

> >

> >> ....and the 9 fatal exceptions are what exactly, word for word?

> >>

> >> What Are Fatal Exception Errors

> >> http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=150314

> >>

> >> Bad RAM Causes Fatal Exception Errors Running Windows 95/98:

> >> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=138788

> >>

> >> Err Msg: A Fatal Exception 0E Has Occurred at 0028

> >> http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=189655

> >>

> >> "Fatal Exception" Error Message When You Browse the Internet with a Cable Modem

> >> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=298576

> >>

> >> Fatal Exception Error When You Use Photo Editing Program

> >> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=302869

> >>

> >> "Fatal Exception 0D" Error Message Installing Program

> >> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=162390

> >>

> >> "Fatal Exception 0E" Error Message When Running McAfee VirusScan

> >> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=177672

> >>

> >> Fatal Exception 0E Shutting Down Using a Matrox Video Adapter

> >> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=253241

> >> --

> >> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

> >> http://dts-l.org/

> >> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

> >>

> >>

> >> "vandenplas" <vandenplas@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> >> news:BBF73E68-2146-4A68-BE46-2E59FCE2D06E@microsoft.com...

> >> > Hello. I'm running Windows 98SE on a 433mhz Gateway with 256mb. For the

> >> > last month or two I've only been able to read/write 3 or 4 emails before I

> >> > have to restart the computer. Same thing holds true for surfing the web.

> >> > I've actually been putting up with this but now I can connect to Aol but it

> >> > freezes shortly after the welcome screen loads. In the last three days I've

> >> > had 9 different fatal exceptions. I have tried searching each on on the

> >> > internet from my other computer but don't find them mentioned anywhere. I

> >> > ran memtest from microsoft but it said my memory was fine. Any suggestions?

> >> >

> >> > Cheers, John

> >>

> >>

>

>

[Guest vandenplas]

Re: Fatal exceptions

 

Sorry I didn't notice the second part of your message. I did try starting

the computer in safe mode. I was unable to get on line with it in safe mode

however. I can poke around the computer without it crashing while in safe

mode so I suppose that's something. Is there any kind of diagnostic I can

run in safe mode to find out what is wrong with my system? Looking under the

"Performance" tab under system properties it said, "Compatibility-mode paging

reduces overall system performance". No clue what, if anything, that means.

 

Cheers, John

 

glee" wrote:

> Do none of the errors name a file at the end?

>

> Example:

> Fatal exception 0D at 168F:016775E5 in VxD somefilename

>

> Have you checked your RAM?

> Windows Memory Tester

> http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp

>

> Are you getting the errors in Safe Mode?

>

> To start in Safe Mode:

> - Start the computer and hold down the CTRL key till the Windows 98 Startup menu

> (boot menu) appears.

> OR

> - Repeatedly tap the F8 key after the memory count to bring up the boot menu.

> - Use the arrow keys to select "Safe Mode" and press Enter.

> --

> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

> http://dts-l.org/

> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

>

>

> "vandenplas" <vandenplas@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:E88060C5-8159-4CFB-94C0-E6F9310B9971@microsoft.com...

> > Ok, here goes...

> >

> > OD 0909:01672468B

> > 0246:016747FB

> > 30AF:016F6B97

> > 0202:01674096

> > 2FAF:016F6B97

> > 168F:016775E5

> >

> > OE 1454:0167268B

> > 0187:BFF9DFFF

> > 0187:BFF8976B

> >

> > It seems that I'm at the point now where any time I try to launch a program

> > it freezes my computer. I don't know if it means anything but each time I

> > get another fatal exception the number is slightly different whether it's an

> > OE or OD error. In fact, the exact letter/number sequence has yet to repeat.

> > It's weird because until recently my Win98SE machine has always been more

> > stable than my Win ME machine.

> >

> > Cheers, John

> >

> > "glee" wrote:

> >

> >> ....and the 9 fatal exceptions are what exactly, word for word?

> >>

> >> What Are Fatal Exception Errors

> >> http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=150314

> >>

> >> Bad RAM Causes Fatal Exception Errors Running Windows 95/98:

> >> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=138788

> >>

> >> Err Msg: A Fatal Exception 0E Has Occurred at 0028

> >> http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=189655

> >>

> >> "Fatal Exception" Error Message When You Browse the Internet with a Cable Modem

> >> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=298576

> >>

> >> Fatal Exception Error When You Use Photo Editing Program

> >> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=302869

> >>

> >> "Fatal Exception 0D" Error Message Installing Program

> >> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=162390

> >>

> >> "Fatal Exception 0E" Error Message When Running McAfee VirusScan

> >> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=177672

> >>

> >> Fatal Exception 0E Shutting Down Using a Matrox Video Adapter

> >> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=253241

> >> --

> >> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

> >> http://dts-l.org/

> >> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

> >>

> >>

> >> "vandenplas" <vandenplas@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> >> news:BBF73E68-2146-4A68-BE46-2E59FCE2D06E@microsoft.com...

> >> > Hello. I'm running Windows 98SE on a 433mhz Gateway with 256mb. For the

> >> > last month or two I've only been able to read/write 3 or 4 emails before I

> >> > have to restart the computer. Same thing holds true for surfing the web.

> >> > I've actually been putting up with this but now I can connect to Aol but it

> >> > freezes shortly after the welcome screen loads. In the last three days I've

> >> > had 9 different fatal exceptions. I have tried searching each on on the

> >> > internet from my other computer but don't find them mentioned anywhere. I

> >> > ran memtest from microsoft but it said my memory was fine. Any suggestions?

> >> >

> >> > Cheers, John

> >>

> >>

>

>

[Guest glee]

Re: Fatal exceptions

 

In answer to your question in the other reply, yes, run the memory diagnostic long

loop test....all afternoon or overnight, whichever is more convenient.

 

Safe Mode in and of itself, is a sort of diagnostic test. If you are not getting

any errors while in Safe Mode, that pretty much eliminates hardware as a problem,

and puts the focus onto your software and device drivers. Since Safe Mode does not

load your video driver but uses a generic one instead, the first driver to suspect

is the video driver (though by no means the only one to suspect).

 

You can test the video driver as a cause of the problem by starting in Safe Mode,

then running System Configuration (Start> Run> msconfig), on the General tab click

the Advanced button.

Put a check in the box for "VGA 640 x480 x16"

Click OK all the way out and restart in normal mode when prompted.

 

Does this have any effect on the error messages? If the errors stop, the video

driver is likely at fault.

--

Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

http://dts-l.org/

http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

 

 

"vandenplas" <vandenplas@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:C030A400-84B6-480E-80F1-30E7CC55FB4B@microsoft.com...

> Sorry I didn't notice the second part of your message. I did try starting

> the computer in safe mode. I was unable to get on line with it in safe mode

> however. I can poke around the computer without it crashing while in safe

> mode so I suppose that's something. Is there any kind of diagnostic I can

> run in safe mode to find out what is wrong with my system? Looking under the

> "Performance" tab under system properties it said, "Compatibility-mode paging

> reduces overall system performance". No clue what, if anything, that means.

>

> Cheers, John

>

> glee" wrote:

>

>> Do none of the errors name a file at the end?

>>

>> Example:

>> Fatal exception 0D at 168F:016775E5 in VxD somefilename

>>

>> Have you checked your RAM?

>> Windows Memory Tester

>> http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp

>>

>> Are you getting the errors in Safe Mode?

>>

>> To start in Safe Mode:

>> - Start the computer and hold down the CTRL key till the Windows 98 Startup menu

>> (boot menu) appears.

>> OR

>> - Repeatedly tap the F8 key after the memory count to bring up the boot menu.

>> - Use the arrow keys to select "Safe Mode" and press Enter.

>> --

>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

>> http://dts-l.org/

>> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

>>

>>

>> "vandenplas" <vandenplas@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:E88060C5-8159-4CFB-94C0-E6F9310B9971@microsoft.com...

>> > Ok, here goes...

>> >

>> > OD 0909:01672468B

>> > 0246:016747FB

>> > 30AF:016F6B97

>> > 0202:01674096

>> > 2FAF:016F6B97

>> > 168F:016775E5

>> >

>> > OE 1454:0167268B

>> > 0187:BFF9DFFF

>> > 0187:BFF8976B

>> >

>> > It seems that I'm at the point now where any time I try to launch a program

>> > it freezes my computer. I don't know if it means anything but each time I

>> > get another fatal exception the number is slightly different whether it's an

>> > OE or OD error. In fact, the exact letter/number sequence has yet to repeat.

>> > It's weird because until recently my Win98SE machine has always been more

>> > stable than my Win ME machine.

>> >

>> > Cheers, John

>> >

>> > "glee" wrote:

>> >

>> >> ....and the 9 fatal exceptions are what exactly, word for word?

>> >>

>> >> What Are Fatal Exception Errors

>> >> http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=150314

>> >>

>> >> Bad RAM Causes Fatal Exception Errors Running Windows 95/98:

>> >> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=138788

>> >>

>> >> Err Msg: A Fatal Exception 0E Has Occurred at 0028

>> >> http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=189655

>> >>

>> >> "Fatal Exception" Error Message When You Browse the Internet with a Cable

>> >> Modem

>> >> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=298576

>> >>

>> >> Fatal Exception Error When You Use Photo Editing Program

>> >> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=302869

>> >>

>> >> "Fatal Exception 0D" Error Message Installing Program

>> >> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=162390

>> >>

>> >> "Fatal Exception 0E" Error Message When Running McAfee VirusScan

>> >> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=177672

>> >>

>> >> Fatal Exception 0E Shutting Down Using a Matrox Video Adapter

>> >> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=253241

>> >> --

>> >> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

>> >> http://dts-l.org/

>> >> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

>> >>

>> >>

>> >> "vandenplas" <vandenplas@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> >> news:BBF73E68-2146-4A68-BE46-2E59FCE2D06E@microsoft.com...

>> >> > Hello. I'm running Windows 98SE on a 433mhz Gateway with 256mb. For the

>> >> > last month or two I've only been able to read/write 3 or 4 emails before I

>> >> > have to restart the computer. Same thing holds true for surfing the web.

>> >> > I've actually been putting up with this but now I can connect to Aol but it

>> >> > freezes shortly after the welcome screen loads. In the last three days I've

>> >> > had 9 different fatal exceptions. I have tried searching each on on the

>> >> > internet from my other computer but don't find them mentioned anywhere. I

>> >> > ran memtest from microsoft but it said my memory was fine. Any suggestions?

>> >> >

>> >> > Cheers, John

>> >>

>> >>

>>

>>

[Guest PCR]

Re: Fatal exceptions

 

glee wrote:

| In answer to your question in the other reply, yes, run the memory

| diagnostic long loop test....all afternoon or overnight, whichever is

| more convenient.

|

| Safe Mode in and of itself, is a sort of diagnostic test. If you are

| not getting any errors while in Safe Mode, that pretty much

| eliminates hardware as a problem, and puts the focus onto your

| software and device drivers. Since Safe Mode does not load your

| video driver but uses a generic one instead, the first driver to

| suspect is the video driver (though by no means the only one to

| suspect).

|

| You can test the video driver as a cause of the problem by starting

| in Safe Mode, then running System Configuration (Start> Run>

| msconfig), on the General tab click the Advanced button.

| Put a check in the box for "VGA 640 x480 x16"

| Click OK all the way out and restart in normal mode when prompted.

 

It's interesting. The blurb for that box is...

 

"Forces the display to use the VGA driver. The user will not be able to

clear this check box if the VGA driver was already installed when

starting the System Configuration Utility. This is equivalent to the

Display.drv=Vga.drv setting in the System.ini file."

 

Will he be able to clear it again in Safe Mode? Or, must he restore a

prior System.ini? Should I experiment, or do you already know the

answer?

 

Looks like TWO sections in System.ini mention "Display.drv="

 

[boot]

display.drv=pnpdrvr.drv

 

[boot.description]

display.drv=Trident Blade3D/MVP4 (63)

 

| Does this have any effect on the error messages? If the errors stop,

| the video driver is likely at fault.

| --

| Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

| http://dts-l.org/

| http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

|

|

| "vandenplas" <vandenplas@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

| news:C030A400-84B6-480E-80F1-30E7CC55FB4B@microsoft.com...

|> Sorry I didn't notice the second part of your message. I did try

|> starting the computer in safe mode. I was unable to get on line

|> with it in safe mode however. I can poke around the computer

|> without it crashing while in safe mode so I suppose that's

|> something. Is there any kind of diagnostic I can run in safe mode

|> to find out what is wrong with my system? Looking under the

|> "Performance" tab under system properties it said,

|> "Compatibility-mode paging reduces overall system performance". No

|> clue what, if anything, that means.

|>

|> Cheers, John

|>

|> glee" wrote:

|>

|>> Do none of the errors name a file at the end?

|>>

|>> Example:

|>> Fatal exception 0D at 168F:016775E5 in VxD somefilename

|>>

|>> Have you checked your RAM?

|>> Windows Memory Tester

|>> http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp

|>>

|>> Are you getting the errors in Safe Mode?

|>>

|>> To start in Safe Mode:

|>> - Start the computer and hold down the CTRL key till the Windows 98

|>> Startup menu (boot menu) appears.

|>> OR

|>> - Repeatedly tap the F8 key after the memory count to bring up the

|>> boot menu.

|>> - Use the arrow keys to select "Safe Mode" and press Enter.

|>> --

|>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

|>> http://dts-l.org/

|>> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

|>>

|>>

|>> "vandenplas" <vandenplas@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

|>> news:E88060C5-8159-4CFB-94C0-E6F9310B9971@microsoft.com...

|>> > Ok, here goes...

|>> >

|>> > OD 0909:01672468B

|>> > 0246:016747FB

|>> > 30AF:016F6B97

|>> > 0202:01674096

|>> > 2FAF:016F6B97

|>> > 168F:016775E5

|>> >

|>> > OE 1454:0167268B

|>> > 0187:BFF9DFFF

|>> > 0187:BFF8976B

|>> >

|>> > It seems that I'm at the point now where any time I try to launch

|>> > a program it freezes my computer. I don't know if it means

|>> > anything but each time I get another fatal exception the number

|>> > is slightly different whether it's an OE or OD error. In fact,

|>> > the exact letter/number sequence has yet to repeat. It's weird

|>> > because until recently my Win98SE machine has always been more

|>> > stable than my Win ME machine.

|>> >

|>> > Cheers, John

|>> >

|>> > "glee" wrote:

|>> >

|>> >> ....and the 9 fatal exceptions are what exactly, word for word?

|>> >>

|>> >> What Are Fatal Exception Errors

|>> >> http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=150314

|>> >>

|>> >> Bad RAM Causes Fatal Exception Errors Running Windows 95/98:

|>> >> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=138788

|>> >>

|>> >> Err Msg: A Fatal Exception 0E Has Occurred at 0028

|>> >> http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=189655

|>> >>

|>> >> "Fatal Exception" Error Message When You Browse the Internet

|>> >> with a Cable Modem

|>> >> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=298576

|>> >>

|>> >> Fatal Exception Error When You Use Photo Editing Program

|>> >> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=302869

|>> >>

|>> >> "Fatal Exception 0D" Error Message Installing Program

|>> >> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=162390

|>> >>

|>> >> "Fatal Exception 0E" Error Message When Running McAfee VirusScan

|>> >> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=177672

|>> >>

|>> >> Fatal Exception 0E Shutting Down Using a Matrox Video Adapter

|>> >> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=253241

|>> >> --

|>> >> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

|>> >> http://dts-l.org/

|>> >> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

|>> >>

|>> >>

|>> >> "vandenplas" <vandenplas@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

|>> >> message

|>> >> news:BBF73E68-2146-4A68-BE46-2E59FCE2D06E@microsoft.com...

|>> >> > Hello. I'm running Windows 98SE on a 433mhz Gateway with

|>> >> > 256mb. For the last month or two I've only been able to

|>> >> > read/write 3 or 4 emails before I have to restart the

|>> >> > computer. Same thing holds true for surfing the web. I've

|>> >> > actually been putting up with this but now I can connect to

|>> >> > Aol but it freezes shortly after the welcome screen loads. In

|>> >> > the last three days I've had 9 different fatal exceptions. I

|>> >> > have tried searching each on on the internet from my other

|>> >> > computer but don't find them mentioned anywhere. I ran

|>> >> > memtest from microsoft but it said my memory was fine. Any

|>> >> > suggestions?

|>> >> >

|>> >> > Cheers, John

 

--

Thanks or Good Luck,

There may be humor in this post, and,

Naturally, you will not sue,

Should things get worse after this,

PCR

pcrrcp@netzero.net

[Guest glee]

Re: Fatal exceptions

 

"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

news:O1Vi5BGCIHA.5044@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> glee wrote:

> | In answer to your question in the other reply, yes, run the memory

> | diagnostic long loop test....all afternoon or overnight, whichever is

> | more convenient.

> |

> | Safe Mode in and of itself, is a sort of diagnostic test. If you are

> | not getting any errors while in Safe Mode, that pretty much

> | eliminates hardware as a problem, and puts the focus onto your

> | software and device drivers. Since Safe Mode does not load your

> | video driver but uses a generic one instead, the first driver to

> | suspect is the video driver (though by no means the only one to

> | suspect).

> |

> | You can test the video driver as a cause of the problem by starting

> | in Safe Mode, then running System Configuration (Start> Run>

> | msconfig), on the General tab click the Advanced button.

> | Put a check in the box for "VGA 640 x480 x16"

> | Click OK all the way out and restart in normal mode when prompted.

>

> It's interesting. The blurb for that box is...

>

> "Forces the display to use the VGA driver. The user will not be able to

> clear this check box if the VGA driver was already installed when

> starting the System Configuration Utility. This is equivalent to the

> Display.drv=Vga.drv setting in the System.ini file."

>

> Will he be able to clear it again in Safe Mode? Or, must he restore a

> prior System.ini? Should I experiment, or do you already know the

> answer?

 

What the blurb means is:

 

If the user has the display driver for his particular display adapter installed,

then the box will be clear when entering msconfig> Advanced, and after checking the

box, it will be able to be cleared again.

 

If the user is *already* using the "Standard VGA 640x480" generic driver in Windows,

the box will already be checked, and it will not be possible to clear it. In order

to clear it, another display driver will have to be installed/loaded.

 

Please, feel free to experiment. ;-)

>

> Looks like TWO sections in System.ini mention "Display.drv="

>

> [boot]

> display.drv=pnpdrvr.drv

>

> [boot.description]

> display.drv=Trident Blade3D/MVP4 (63)

>

> | Does this have any effect on the error messages? If the errors stop,

> | the video driver is likely at fault.

> |

> |

> | "vandenplas" <vandenplas@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> | news:C030A400-84B6-480E-80F1-30E7CC55FB4B@microsoft.com...

> |> Sorry I didn't notice the second part of your message. I did try

> |> starting the computer in safe mode. I was unable to get on line

> |> with it in safe mode however. I can poke around the computer

> |> without it crashing while in safe mode so I suppose that's

> |> something. Is there any kind of diagnostic I can run in safe mode

> |> to find out what is wrong with my system? Looking under the

> |> "Performance" tab under system properties it said,

> |> "Compatibility-mode paging reduces overall system performance". No

> |> clue what, if anything, that means.

> |>

> |> Cheers, John

> |>

> |> glee" wrote:

> |>

> |>> Do none of the errors name a file at the end?

> |>>

> |>> Example:

> |>> Fatal exception 0D at 168F:016775E5 in VxD somefilename

> |>>

> |>> Have you checked your RAM?

> |>> Windows Memory Tester

> |>> http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp

> |>>

> |>> Are you getting the errors in Safe Mode?

> |>>

> |>> To start in Safe Mode:

> |>> - Start the computer and hold down the CTRL key till the Windows 98

> |>> Startup menu (boot menu) appears.

> |>> OR

> |>> - Repeatedly tap the F8 key after the memory count to bring up the

> |>> boot menu.

> |>> - Use the arrow keys to select "Safe Mode" and press Enter.

> |>>

> |>> "vandenplas" <vandenplas@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> |>> news:E88060C5-8159-4CFB-94C0-E6F9310B9971@microsoft.com...

> |>> > Ok, here goes...

> |>> >

> |>> > OD 0909:01672468B

> |>> > 0246:016747FB

> |>> > 30AF:016F6B97

> |>> > 0202:01674096

> |>> > 2FAF:016F6B97

> |>> > 168F:016775E5

> |>> >

> |>> > OE 1454:0167268B

> |>> > 0187:BFF9DFFF

> |>> > 0187:BFF8976B

> |>> >

> |>> > It seems that I'm at the point now where any time I try to launch

> |>> > a program it freezes my computer. I don't know if it means

> |>> > anything but each time I get another fatal exception the number

> |>> > is slightly different whether it's an OE or OD error. In fact,

> |>> > the exact letter/number sequence has yet to repeat. It's weird

> |>> > because until recently my Win98SE machine has always been more

> |>> > stable than my Win ME machine.

> |>> >

> |>> > Cheers, John

> |>> >

> |>> > "glee" wrote:

> |>> >

> |>> >> ....and the 9 fatal exceptions are what exactly, word for word?

> |>> >>

> |>> >> What Are Fatal Exception Errors

> |>> >> http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=150314

> |>> >>

> |>> >> Bad RAM Causes Fatal Exception Errors Running Windows 95/98:

> |>> >> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=138788

> |>> >>

> |>> >> Err Msg: A Fatal Exception 0E Has Occurred at 0028

> |>> >> http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=189655

> |>> >>

> |>> >> "Fatal Exception" Error Message When You Browse the Internet

> |>> >> with a Cable Modem

> |>> >> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=298576

> |>> >>

> |>> >> Fatal Exception Error When You Use Photo Editing Program

> |>> >> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=302869

> |>> >>

> |>> >> "Fatal Exception 0D" Error Message Installing Program

> |>> >> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=162390

> |>> >>

> |>> >> "Fatal Exception 0E" Error Message When Running McAfee VirusScan

> |>> >> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=177672

> |>> >>

> |>> >> Fatal Exception 0E Shutting Down Using a Matrox Video Adapter

> |>> >> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=253241

> |>> >>

> |>> >>

> |>> >> "vandenplas" <vandenplas@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

> |>> >> message

> |>> >> news:BBF73E68-2146-4A68-BE46-2E59FCE2D06E@microsoft.com...

> |>> >> > Hello. I'm running Windows 98SE on a 433mhz Gateway with

> |>> >> > 256mb. For the last month or two I've only been able to

> |>> >> > read/write 3 or 4 emails before I have to restart the

> |>> >> > computer. Same thing holds true for surfing the web. I've

> |>> >> > actually been putting up with this but now I can connect to

> |>> >> > Aol but it freezes shortly after the welcome screen loads. In

> |>> >> > the last three days I've had 9 different fatal exceptions. I

> |>> >> > have tried searching each on on the internet from my other

> |>> >> > computer but don't find them mentioned anywhere. I ran

> |>> >> > memtest from microsoft but it said my memory was fine. Any

> |>> >> > suggestions?

> |>> >> >

> |>> >> > Cheers, John

>

--

Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

http://dts-l.org/

http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

[Guest PCR]

Re: Fatal exceptions

 

glee wrote:

| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

| news:O1Vi5BGCIHA.5044@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

|> glee wrote:

|> | In answer to your question in the other reply, yes, run the memory

|> | diagnostic long loop test....all afternoon or overnight, whichever

|> | is more convenient.

|> |

|> | Safe Mode in and of itself, is a sort of diagnostic test. If you

|> | are not getting any errors while in Safe Mode, that pretty much

|> | eliminates hardware as a problem, and puts the focus onto your

|> | software and device drivers. Since Safe Mode does not load your

|> | video driver but uses a generic one instead, the first driver to

|> | suspect is the video driver (though by no means the only one to

|> | suspect).

|> |

|> | You can test the video driver as a cause of the problem by starting

|> | in Safe Mode, then running System Configuration (Start> Run>

|> | msconfig), on the General tab click the Advanced button.

|> | Put a check in the box for "VGA 640 x480 x16"

|> | Click OK all the way out and restart in normal mode when prompted.

|>

|> It's interesting. The blurb for that box is...

|>

|> "Forces the display to use the VGA driver. The user will not be able

|> to clear this check box if the VGA driver was already installed when

|> starting the System Configuration Utility. This is equivalent to the

|> Display.drv=Vga.drv setting in the System.ini file."

|>

|> Will he be able to clear it again in Safe Mode? Or, must he restore a

|> prior System.ini? Should I experiment, or do you already know the

|> answer?

|

| What the blurb means is:

|

| If the user has the display driver for his particular display adapter

| installed, then the box will be clear when entering msconfig>

| Advanced, and after checking the box, it will be able to be cleared

| again.

|

| If the user is *already* using the "Standard VGA 640x480" generic

| driver in Windows, the box will already be checked, and it will not

| be possible to clear it. In order to clear it, another display

| driver will have to be installed/loaded.

 

I understand. If there is no alternative display driver, Windows knows

better than to allow the box to be checked or unchecked. Otherwise, all

will be fine with that box.

 

| Please, feel free to experiment. ;-)

 

No! I believe you implicitly! OK, thanks!

 

|>

|> Looks like TWO sections in System.ini mention "Display.drv="

|>

|> [boot]

|> display.drv=pnpdrvr.drv

|>

|> [boot.description]

|> display.drv=Trident Blade3D/MVP4 (63)

|>

|> | Does this have any effect on the error messages? If the errors

|> | stop, the video driver is likely at fault.

|

|> |

|> |

|> | "vandenplas" <vandenplas@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

|> | message news:C030A400-84B6-480E-80F1-30E7CC55FB4B@microsoft.com...

|> |> Sorry I didn't notice the second part of your message. I did try

|> |> starting the computer in safe mode. I was unable to get on line

|> |> with it in safe mode however. I can poke around the computer

|> |> without it crashing while in safe mode so I suppose that's

|> |> something. Is there any kind of diagnostic I can run in safe mode

|> |> to find out what is wrong with my system? Looking under the

|> |> "Performance" tab under system properties it said,

|> |> "Compatibility-mode paging reduces overall system performance".

|> |> No clue what, if anything, that means.

|> |>

|> |> Cheers, John

|> |>

|> |> glee" wrote:

|> |>

|> |>> Do none of the errors name a file at the end?

|> |>>

|> |>> Example:

|> |>> Fatal exception 0D at 168F:016775E5 in VxD somefilename

|> |>>

|> |>> Have you checked your RAM?

|> |>> Windows Memory Tester

|> |>> http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp

|> |>>

|> |>> Are you getting the errors in Safe Mode?

|> |>>

|> |>> To start in Safe Mode:

|> |>> - Start the computer and hold down the CTRL key till the Windows

|> |>> 98 Startup menu (boot menu) appears.

|> |>> OR

|> |>> - Repeatedly tap the F8 key after the memory count to bring up

|> |>> the boot menu.

|> |>> - Use the arrow keys to select "Safe Mode" and press Enter.

|

|> |>>

|> |>> "vandenplas" <vandenplas@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

|> |>> message

|> |>> news:E88060C5-8159-4CFB-94C0-E6F9310B9971@microsoft.com...

|> |>> > Ok, here goes...

|> |>> >

|> |>> > OD 0909:01672468B

|> |>> > 0246:016747FB

|> |>> > 30AF:016F6B97

|> |>> > 0202:01674096

|> |>> > 2FAF:016F6B97

|> |>> > 168F:016775E5

|> |>> >

|> |>> > OE 1454:0167268B

|> |>> > 0187:BFF9DFFF

|> |>> > 0187:BFF8976B

|> |>> >

|> |>> > It seems that I'm at the point now where any time I try to

|> |>> > launch a program it freezes my computer. I don't know if it

|> |>> > means anything but each time I get another fatal exception the

|> |>> > number is slightly different whether it's an OE or OD error.

|> |>> > In fact, the exact letter/number sequence has yet to repeat.

|> |>> > It's weird because until recently my Win98SE machine has

|> |>> > always been more stable than my Win ME machine.

|> |>> >

|> |>> > Cheers, John

|> |>> >

|> |>> > "glee" wrote:

|> |>> >

|> |>> >> ....and the 9 fatal exceptions are what exactly, word for

|> |>> >> word?

|> |>> >>

|> |>> >> What Are Fatal Exception Errors

|> |>> >> http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=150314

|> |>> >>

|> |>> >> Bad RAM Causes Fatal Exception Errors Running Windows 95/98:

|> |>> >> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=138788

|> |>> >>

|> |>> >> Err Msg: A Fatal Exception 0E Has Occurred at 0028

|> |>> >> http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=189655

|> |>> >>

|> |>> >> "Fatal Exception" Error Message When You Browse the Internet

|> |>> >> with a Cable Modem

|> |>> >> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=298576

|> |>> >>

|> |>> >> Fatal Exception Error When You Use Photo Editing Program

|> |>> >> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=302869

|> |>> >>

|> |>> >> "Fatal Exception 0D" Error Message Installing Program

|> |>> >> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=162390

|> |>> >>

|> |>> >> "Fatal Exception 0E" Error Message When Running McAfee

|> |>> >> VirusScan http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=177672

|> |>> >>

|> |>> >> Fatal Exception 0E Shutting Down Using a Matrox Video Adapter

|> |>> >> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=253241

|

|> |>> >>

|> |>> >>

|> |>> >> "vandenplas" <vandenplas@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

|> |>> >> message

|> |>> >> news:BBF73E68-2146-4A68-BE46-2E59FCE2D06E@microsoft.com...

|> |>> >> > Hello. I'm running Windows 98SE on a 433mhz Gateway with

|> |>> >> > 256mb. For the last month or two I've only been able to

|> |>> >> > read/write 3 or 4 emails before I have to restart the

|> |>> >> > computer. Same thing holds true for surfing the web. I've

|> |>> >> > actually been putting up with this but now I can connect to

|> |>> >> > Aol but it freezes shortly after the welcome screen loads.

|> |>> >> > In the last three days I've had 9 different fatal

|> |>> >> > exceptions. I have tried searching each on on the internet

|> |>> >> > from my other computer but don't find them mentioned

|> |>> >> > anywhere. I ran memtest from microsoft but it said my

|> |>> >> > memory was fine. Any suggestions?

|> |>> >> >

|> |>> >> > Cheers, John

|>

| --

| Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

| http://dts-l.org/

| http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

 

--

Thanks or Good Luck,

There may be humor in this post, and,

Naturally, you will not sue,

Should things get worse after this,

PCR

pcrrcp@netzero.net

[Guest vandenplas]

Re: Fatal exceptions

 

Last Friday, after poking aournd the Microsoft web site, I did a Clean-Boot

and cleared all the boxes in the Selective Startup section. I was able to

get on the internet after doing so. Then I went back to the Selective

Startup menu and added one item back at a time. Each time I restarted the

computer and again tried to get on-line. The AOL/McAfee was causing the

Welcome Screen to freeze. I can now get on-line but the computer slows down

to a crawl not long after. Clicking on the blue "e" for internet explorer

has never gotten me on line so AOL is my only access. Maybe...two years ago

I tried installing Firefox but was never able to get it to work. Oh, after

the Clean Boot, I was able to read mail on my Hotmail account but as soon as

I tried to send an email the computer slowed and then stopped. Could the

video driver you mentioned earlier cause such a behaviour? Not sure if it

matters but after doing the clean boot the computer restarts much quicker.

Any thoughts or suggestions are welcome.

 

Cheers, John

 

"PCR" wrote:

> glee wrote:

> | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

> | news:O1Vi5BGCIHA.5044@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> |> glee wrote:

> |> | In answer to your question in the other reply, yes, run the memory

> |> | diagnostic long loop test....all afternoon or overnight, whichever

> |> | is more convenient.

> |> |

> |> | Safe Mode in and of itself, is a sort of diagnostic test. If you

> |> | are not getting any errors while in Safe Mode, that pretty much

> |> | eliminates hardware as a problem, and puts the focus onto your

> |> | software and device drivers. Since Safe Mode does not load your

> |> | video driver but uses a generic one instead, the first driver to

> |> | suspect is the video driver (though by no means the only one to

> |> | suspect).

> |> |

> |> | You can test the video driver as a cause of the problem by starting

> |> | in Safe Mode, then running System Configuration (Start> Run>

> |> | msconfig), on the General tab click the Advanced button.

> |> | Put a check in the box for "VGA 640 x480 x16"

> |> | Click OK all the way out and restart in normal mode when prompted.

> |>

> |> It's interesting. The blurb for that box is...

> |>

> |> "Forces the display to use the VGA driver. The user will not be able

> |> to clear this check box if the VGA driver was already installed when

> |> starting the System Configuration Utility. This is equivalent to the

> |> Display.drv=Vga.drv setting in the System.ini file."

> |>

> |> Will he be able to clear it again in Safe Mode? Or, must he restore a

> |> prior System.ini? Should I experiment, or do you already know the

> |> answer?

> |

> | What the blurb means is:

> |

> | If the user has the display driver for his particular display adapter

> | installed, then the box will be clear when entering msconfig>

> | Advanced, and after checking the box, it will be able to be cleared

> | again.

> |

> | If the user is *already* using the "Standard VGA 640x480" generic

> | driver in Windows, the box will already be checked, and it will not

> | be possible to clear it. In order to clear it, another display

> | driver will have to be installed/loaded.

>

> I understand. If there is no alternative display driver, Windows knows

> better than to allow the box to be checked or unchecked. Otherwise, all

> will be fine with that box.

>

> | Please, feel free to experiment. ;-)

>

> No! I believe you implicitly! OK, thanks!

>

> |>

> |> Looks like TWO sections in System.ini mention "Display.drv="

> |>

> |> [boot]

> |> display.drv=pnpdrvr.drv

> |>

> |> [boot.description]

> |> display.drv=Trident Blade3D/MVP4 (63)

> |>

> |> | Does this have any effect on the error messages? If the errors

> |> | stop, the video driver is likely at fault.

> |

> |> |

> |> |

> |> | "vandenplas" <vandenplas@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

> |> | message news:C030A400-84B6-480E-80F1-30E7CC55FB4B@microsoft.com...

> |> |> Sorry I didn't notice the second part of your message. I did try

> |> |> starting the computer in safe mode. I was unable to get on line

> |> |> with it in safe mode however. I can poke around the computer

> |> |> without it crashing while in safe mode so I suppose that's

> |> |> something. Is there any kind of diagnostic I can run in safe mode

> |> |> to find out what is wrong with my system? Looking under the

> |> |> "Performance" tab under system properties it said,

> |> |> "Compatibility-mode paging reduces overall system performance".

> |> |> No clue what, if anything, that means.

> |> |>

> |> |> Cheers, John

> |> |>

> |> |> glee" wrote:

> |> |>

> |> |>> Do none of the errors name a file at the end?

> |> |>>

> |> |>> Example:

> |> |>> Fatal exception 0D at 168F:016775E5 in VxD somefilename

> |> |>>

> |> |>> Have you checked your RAM?

> |> |>> Windows Memory Tester

> |> |>> http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp

> |> |>>

> |> |>> Are you getting the errors in Safe Mode?

> |> |>>

> |> |>> To start in Safe Mode:

> |> |>> - Start the computer and hold down the CTRL key till the Windows

> |> |>> 98 Startup menu (boot menu) appears.

> |> |>> OR

> |> |>> - Repeatedly tap the F8 key after the memory count to bring up

> |> |>> the boot menu.

> |> |>> - Use the arrow keys to select "Safe Mode" and press Enter.

> |

> |> |>>

> |> |>> "vandenplas" <vandenplas@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

> |> |>> message

> |> |>> news:E88060C5-8159-4CFB-94C0-E6F9310B9971@microsoft.com...

> |> |>> > Ok, here goes...

> |> |>> >

> |> |>> > OD 0909:01672468B

> |> |>> > 0246:016747FB

> |> |>> > 30AF:016F6B97

> |> |>> > 0202:01674096

> |> |>> > 2FAF:016F6B97

> |> |>> > 168F:016775E5

> |> |>> >

> |> |>> > OE 1454:0167268B

> |> |>> > 0187:BFF9DFFF

> |> |>> > 0187:BFF8976B

> |> |>> >

> |> |>> > It seems that I'm at the point now where any time I try to

> |> |>> > launch a program it freezes my computer. I don't know if it

> |> |>> > means anything but each time I get another fatal exception the

> |> |>> > number is slightly different whether it's an OE or OD error.

> |> |>> > In fact, the exact letter/number sequence has yet to repeat.

> |> |>> > It's weird because until recently my Win98SE machine has

> |> |>> > always been more stable than my Win ME machine.

> |> |>> >

> |> |>> > Cheers, John

> |> |>> >

> |> |>> > "glee" wrote:

> |> |>> >

> |> |>> >> ....and the 9 fatal exceptions are what exactly, word for

> |> |>> >> word?

> |> |>> >>

> |> |>> >> What Are Fatal Exception Errors

> |> |>> >> http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=150314

> |> |>> >>

> |> |>> >> Bad RAM Causes Fatal Exception Errors Running Windows 95/98:

> |> |>> >> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=138788

> |> |>> >>

> |> |>> >> Err Msg: A Fatal Exception 0E Has Occurred at 0028

> |> |>> >> http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=189655

> |> |>> >>

> |> |>> >> "Fatal Exception" Error Message When You Browse the Internet

> |> |>> >> with a Cable Modem

> |> |>> >> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=298576

> |> |>> >>

> |> |>> >> Fatal Exception Error When You Use Photo Editing Program

> |> |>> >> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=302869

> |> |>> >>

> |> |>> >> "Fatal Exception 0D" Error Message Installing Program

> |> |>> >> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=162390

> |> |>> >>

> |> |>> >> "Fatal Exception 0E" Error Message When Running McAfee

> |> |>> >> VirusScan http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=177672

> |> |>> >>

> |> |>> >> Fatal Exception 0E Shutting Down Using a Matrox Video Adapter

> |> |>> >> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=253241

> |

> |> |>> >>

> |> |>> >>

> |> |>> >> "vandenplas" <vandenplas@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

> |> |>> >> message

> |> |>> >> news:BBF73E68-2146-4A68-BE46-2E59FCE2D06E@microsoft.com...

> |> |>> >> > Hello. I'm running Windows 98SE on a 433mhz Gateway with

> |> |>> >> > 256mb. For the last month or two I've only been able to

> |> |>> >> > read/write 3 or 4 emails before I have to restart the

> |> |>> >> > computer. Same thing holds true for surfing the web. I've

> |> |>> >> > actually been putting up with this but now I can connect to

> |> |>> >> > Aol but it freezes shortly after the welcome screen loads.

> |> |>> >> > In the last three days I've had 9 different fatal

> |> |>> >> > exceptions. I have tried searching each on on the internet

> |> |>> >> > from my other computer but don't find them mentioned

> |> |>> >> > anywhere. I ran memtest from microsoft but it said my

> |> |>> >> > memory was fine. Any suggestions?

> |> |>> >> >

> |> |>> >> > Cheers, John

> |>

> | --

> | Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

> | http://dts-l.org/

> | http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

>

> --

> Thanks or Good Luck,

> There may be humor in this post, and,

> Naturally, you will not sue,

> Should things get worse after this,

> PCR

> pcrrcp@netzero.net

>

>

>

[Guest glee]

Re: Fatal exceptions

 

Well, you've skipped on ahead in troubleshooting, but without doing what I has asked

first. The clean-boot procedure would be the next logical step, but you either did

not try or did not report the results of *just* changing the display to VGA 640 x480

x16 under the Advanced section of msconfig.

 

After doing that, I would try the clean boot process both with the VGA 640 x480

display and with your normal display driver, to see if there is any difference

 

If you use AOL dial-up, you must connect with AOL and have their software running to

stay connected. Neither IE nor Firefox will get online unless you are already

connected with AOL. That's just one of the thousands of things I dislike about AOL,

and why I never use or recommend it.

 

Any recent version of McAfee is going to bring Win98 to its knees, and I would

uninstall it and replace it with a much lighter anti-virus. Free ones are available

that work in Win98: Grisoft's AVG, Alwill's Avast, or Avira Anti-Vir

 

After you have replaced McAfee with something that works correctly in Win98, you may

find some of your problems solved. Please try the suggestions above and in my

previous reply, and post back with your results.

--

Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

http://dts-l.org/

http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

 

 

"vandenplas" <vandenplas@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:B0583D79-D21B-4E42-876E-F7369FFEF6AE@microsoft.com...

> Last Friday, after poking aournd the Microsoft web site, I did a Clean-Boot

> and cleared all the boxes in the Selective Startup section. I was able to

> get on the internet after doing so. Then I went back to the Selective

> Startup menu and added one item back at a time. Each time I restarted the

> computer and again tried to get on-line. The AOL/McAfee was causing the

> Welcome Screen to freeze. I can now get on-line but the computer slows down

> to a crawl not long after. Clicking on the blue "e" for internet explorer

> has never gotten me on line so AOL is my only access. Maybe...two years ago

> I tried installing Firefox but was never able to get it to work. Oh, after

> the Clean Boot, I was able to read mail on my Hotmail account but as soon as

> I tried to send an email the computer slowed and then stopped. Could the

> video driver you mentioned earlier cause such a behaviour? Not sure if it

> matters but after doing the clean boot the computer restarts much quicker.

> Any thoughts or suggestions are welcome.

>

> Cheers, John

>

> "PCR" wrote:

>

>> glee wrote:

>> | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

>> | news:O1Vi5BGCIHA.5044@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> |> glee wrote:

>> |> | In answer to your question in the other reply, yes, run the memory

>> |> | diagnostic long loop test....all afternoon or overnight, whichever

>> |> | is more convenient.

>> |> |

>> |> | Safe Mode in and of itself, is a sort of diagnostic test. If you

>> |> | are not getting any errors while in Safe Mode, that pretty much

>> |> | eliminates hardware as a problem, and puts the focus onto your

>> |> | software and device drivers. Since Safe Mode does not load your

>> |> | video driver but uses a generic one instead, the first driver to

>> |> | suspect is the video driver (though by no means the only one to

>> |> | suspect).

>> |> |

>> |> | You can test the video driver as a cause of the problem by starting

>> |> | in Safe Mode, then running System Configuration (Start> Run>

>> |> | msconfig), on the General tab click the Advanced button.

>> |> | Put a check in the box for "VGA 640 x480 x16"

>> |> | Click OK all the way out and restart in normal mode when prompted.

>> |>

>> |> It's interesting. The blurb for that box is...

>> |>

>> |> "Forces the display to use the VGA driver. The user will not be able

>> |> to clear this check box if the VGA driver was already installed when

>> |> starting the System Configuration Utility. This is equivalent to the

>> |> Display.drv=Vga.drv setting in the System.ini file."

>> |>

>> |> Will he be able to clear it again in Safe Mode? Or, must he restore a

>> |> prior System.ini? Should I experiment, or do you already know the

>> |> answer?

>> |

>> | What the blurb means is:

>> |

>> | If the user has the display driver for his particular display adapter

>> | installed, then the box will be clear when entering msconfig>

>> | Advanced, and after checking the box, it will be able to be cleared

>> | again.

>> |

>> | If the user is *already* using the "Standard VGA 640x480" generic

>> | driver in Windows, the box will already be checked, and it will not

>> | be possible to clear it. In order to clear it, another display

>> | driver will have to be installed/loaded.

>>

>> I understand. If there is no alternative display driver, Windows knows

>> better than to allow the box to be checked or unchecked. Otherwise, all

>> will be fine with that box.

>>

>> | Please, feel free to experiment. ;-)

>>

>> No! I believe you implicitly! OK, thanks!

>>

>> |>

>> |> Looks like TWO sections in System.ini mention "Display.drv="

>> |>

>> |> [boot]

>> |> display.drv=pnpdrvr.drv

>> |>

>> |> [boot.description]

>> |> display.drv=Trident Blade3D/MVP4 (63)

>> |>

>> |> | Does this have any effect on the error messages? If the errors

>> |> | stop, the video driver is likely at fault.

>> |

>> |> |

>> |> |

>> |> | "vandenplas" <vandenplas@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

>> |> | message news:C030A400-84B6-480E-80F1-30E7CC55FB4B@microsoft.com...

>> |> |> Sorry I didn't notice the second part of your message. I did try

>> |> |> starting the computer in safe mode. I was unable to get on line

>> |> |> with it in safe mode however. I can poke around the computer

>> |> |> without it crashing while in safe mode so I suppose that's

>> |> |> something. Is there any kind of diagnostic I can run in safe mode

>> |> |> to find out what is wrong with my system? Looking under the

>> |> |> "Performance" tab under system properties it said,

>> |> |> "Compatibility-mode paging reduces overall system performance".

>> |> |> No clue what, if anything, that means.

>> |> |>

>> |> |> Cheers, John

>> |> |>

>> |> |> glee" wrote:

>> |> |>

>> |> |>> Do none of the errors name a file at the end?

>> |> |>>

>> |> |>> Example:

>> |> |>> Fatal exception 0D at 168F:016775E5 in VxD somefilename

>> |> |>>

>> |> |>> Have you checked your RAM?

>> |> |>> Windows Memory Tester

>> |> |>> http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp

>> |> |>>

>> |> |>> Are you getting the errors in Safe Mode?

>> |> |>>

>> |> |>> To start in Safe Mode:

>> |> |>> - Start the computer and hold down the CTRL key till the Windows

>> |> |>> 98 Startup menu (boot menu) appears.

>> |> |>> OR

>> |> |>> - Repeatedly tap the F8 key after the memory count to bring up

>> |> |>> the boot menu.

>> |> |>> - Use the arrow keys to select "Safe Mode" and press Enter.

>> |

>> |> |>>

>> |> |>> "vandenplas" <vandenplas@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

>> |> |>> message

>> |> |>> news:E88060C5-8159-4CFB-94C0-E6F9310B9971@microsoft.com...

>> |> |>> > Ok, here goes...

>> |> |>> >

>> |> |>> > OD 0909:01672468B

>> |> |>> > 0246:016747FB

>> |> |>> > 30AF:016F6B97

>> |> |>> > 0202:01674096

>> |> |>> > 2FAF:016F6B97

>> |> |>> > 168F:016775E5

>> |> |>> >

>> |> |>> > OE 1454:0167268B

>> |> |>> > 0187:BFF9DFFF

>> |> |>> > 0187:BFF8976B

>> |> |>> >

>> |> |>> > It seems that I'm at the point now where any time I try to

>> |> |>> > launch a program it freezes my computer. I don't know if it

>> |> |>> > means anything but each time I get another fatal exception the

>> |> |>> > number is slightly different whether it's an OE or OD error.

>> |> |>> > In fact, the exact letter/number sequence has yet to repeat.

>> |> |>> > It's weird because until recently my Win98SE machine has

>> |> |>> > always been more stable than my Win ME machine.

>> |> |>> >

>> |> |>> > Cheers, John

>> |> |>> >

>> |> |>> > "glee" wrote:

>> |> |>> >

>> |> |>> >> ....and the 9 fatal exceptions are what exactly, word for

>> |> |>> >> word?

>> |> |>> >>

>> |> |>> >> What Are Fatal Exception Errors

>> |> |>> >> http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=150314

>> |> |>> >>

>> |> |>> >> Bad RAM Causes Fatal Exception Errors Running Windows 95/98:

>> |> |>> >> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=138788

>> |> |>> >>

>> |> |>> >> Err Msg: A Fatal Exception 0E Has Occurred at 0028

>> |> |>> >> http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=189655

>> |> |>> >>

>> |> |>> >> "Fatal Exception" Error Message When You Browse the Internet

>> |> |>> >> with a Cable Modem

>> |> |>> >> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=298576

>> |> |>> >>

>> |> |>> >> Fatal Exception Error When You Use Photo Editing Program

>> |> |>> >> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=302869

>> |> |>> >>

>> |> |>> >> "Fatal Exception 0D" Error Message Installing Program

>> |> |>> >> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=162390

>> |> |>> >>

>> |> |>> >> "Fatal Exception 0E" Error Message When Running McAfee

>> |> |>> >> VirusScan http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=177672

>> |> |>> >>

>> |> |>> >> Fatal Exception 0E Shutting Down Using a Matrox Video Adapter

>> |> |>> >> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=253241

>> |

>> |> |>> >>

>> |> |>> >>

>> |> |>> >> "vandenplas" <vandenplas@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

>> |> |>> >> message

>> |> |>> >> news:BBF73E68-2146-4A68-BE46-2E59FCE2D06E@microsoft.com...

>> |> |>> >> > Hello. I'm running Windows 98SE on a 433mhz Gateway with

>> |> |>> >> > 256mb. For the last month or two I've only been able to

>> |> |>> >> > read/write 3 or 4 emails before I have to restart the

>> |> |>> >> > computer. Same thing holds true for surfing the web. I've

>> |> |>> >> > actually been putting up with this but now I can connect to

>> |> |>> >> > Aol but it freezes shortly after the welcome screen loads.

>> |> |>> >> > In the last three days I've had 9 different fatal

>> |> |>> >> > exceptions. I have tried searching each on on the internet

>> |> |>> >> > from my other computer but don't find them mentioned

>> |> |>> >> > anywhere. I ran memtest from microsoft but it said my

>> |> |>> >> > memory was fine. Any suggestions?

>> |> |>> >> >

>> |> |>> >> > Cheers, John

>> |>

>> | --

>> | Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

>> | http://dts-l.org/

>> | http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

>>

>> --

>> Thanks or Good Luck,

>> There may be humor in this post, and,

>> Naturally, you will not sue,

>> Should things get worse after this,

>> PCR

>> pcrrcp@netzero.net

>>

>>

>>

[Guest PCR]

Re: Fatal exceptions

 

I think it may be best to stick with glee. Anyhow, try what he said in

MSConfig. Nevertheless...

 

vandenplas wrote:

| Last Friday, after poking aournd the Microsoft web site, I did a

| Clean-Boot and cleared all the boxes in the Selective Startup

| section. I was able to get on the internet after doing so.

 

That would turn off the entire Startup Group. So, I suppose AOL doesn't

depend upon it, or you started it separately yourself. (Actually, that's

how NetZero works, too-- it isn't in the Startup Group.)

 

And there was no crash after sending a few E-Mails? Did things seem

quick enough, going only to safe NET sites?

 

| Then I

| went back to the Selective Startup menu and added one item back at a

| time. Each time I restarted the computer and again tried to get

| on-line. The AOL/McAfee was causing the Welcome Screen to freeze. I

| can now get on-line but the computer slows down to a crawl not long

| after.

 

But still no crashes? It could be as glee says, that McAfee is the

culprit. When I had McAfee installed, there came a time I could not have

its Auto-System scan running without suffering sluggishness in Explorer.

Also, it became near impossible to function online. The cure for me was

to revert to an older scan engine-- however, even that seemed a tad

ornery after a while. Finally, my version of McAfee (v.5.21.1000 Scan

Engine 4.3.20) no longer would take updated definitions, even manually.

Is your version STILL getting new virus definitions?

 

(1) I guess try a Scandisk & Defrag-- but DON'T let them constantly

restart. If they try, abort, & post back for instructions.

 

(2) Try running McAfee & AOL together.

 

If there is no significant improvement, verify that AOL indeed is

quicker w/o McAfee running (& that you cannot find a trick or setting to

make them cooperate). If so, as glee said...

 

http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html Avast (free)

http://www.grisoft.com/us/us_index.php AVG 6.0 (free)

 

There are a few peccadilloes, but overall I am very pleased now with

avast!.

 

| Clicking on the blue "e" for internet explorer has never

| gotten me on line so AOL is my only access.

 

NetZero is like that too. I have to click its own connectoid & cannot

get online any other way. (Well, there may be a setting I can try-- but

I see no pressing need to chance it!)

 

| Maybe...two years ago I

| tried installing Firefox but was never able to get it to work. Oh,

| after the Clean Boot, I was able to read mail on my Hotmail account

| but as soon as I tried to send an email the computer slowed and then

| stopped. Could the video driver you mentioned earlier cause such a

| behaviour? Not sure if it matters but after doing the clean boot the

| computer restarts much quicker. Any thoughts or suggestions are

| welcome.

| Cheers, John

|

| "PCR" wrote:

|

|> glee wrote:

|> | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

|> | news:O1Vi5BGCIHA.5044@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

|> |> glee wrote:

|> |> | In answer to your question in the other reply, yes, run the

|> |> | memory diagnostic long loop test....all afternoon or overnight,

|> |> | whichever is more convenient.

|> |> |

|> |> | Safe Mode in and of itself, is a sort of diagnostic test. If

|> |> | you are not getting any errors while in Safe Mode, that pretty

|> |> | much eliminates hardware as a problem, and puts the focus onto

|> |> | your software and device drivers. Since Safe Mode does not

|> |> | load your video driver but uses a generic one instead, the

|> |> | first driver to suspect is the video driver (though by no means

|> |> | the only one to suspect).

|> |> |

|> |> | You can test the video driver as a cause of the problem by

|> |> | starting in Safe Mode, then running System Configuration

|> |> | (Start> Run> msconfig), on the General tab click the Advanced

|> |> | button.

|> |> | Put a check in the box for "VGA 640 x480 x16"

|> |> | Click OK all the way out and restart in normal mode when

|> |> | prompted.

|> |>

|> |> It's interesting. The blurb for that box is...

|> |>

|> |> "Forces the display to use the VGA driver. The user will not be

|> |> able to clear this check box if the VGA driver was already

|> |> installed when starting the System Configuration Utility. This is

|> |> equivalent to the Display.drv=Vga.drv setting in the System.ini

|> |> file."

|> |>

|> |> Will he be able to clear it again in Safe Mode? Or, must he

|> |> restore a prior System.ini? Should I experiment, or do you

|> |> already know the answer?

|> |

|> | What the blurb means is:

|> |

|> | If the user has the display driver for his particular display

|> | adapter installed, then the box will be clear when entering

|> | msconfig> Advanced, and after checking the box, it will be able to

|> | be cleared again.

|> |

|> | If the user is *already* using the "Standard VGA 640x480" generic

|> | driver in Windows, the box will already be checked, and it will not

|> | be possible to clear it. In order to clear it, another display

|> | driver will have to be installed/loaded.

|>

|> I understand. If there is no alternative display driver, Windows

|> knows better than to allow the box to be checked or unchecked.

|> Otherwise, all will be fine with that box.

|>

|> | Please, feel free to experiment. ;-)

|>

|> No! I believe you implicitly! OK, thanks!

|>

|> |>

|> |> Looks like TWO sections in System.ini mention "Display.drv="

|> |>

|> |> [boot]

|> |> display.drv=pnpdrvr.drv

|> |>

|> |> [boot.description]

|> |> display.drv=Trident Blade3D/MVP4 (63)

|> |>

|> |> | Does this have any effect on the error messages? If the errors

|> |> | stop, the video driver is likely at fault.

|> |

|> |> |

|> |> |

|> |> | "vandenplas" <vandenplas@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

|> |> | message

|> |> | news:C030A400-84B6-480E-80F1-30E7CC55FB4B@microsoft.com...

|> |> |> Sorry I didn't notice the second part of your message. I did

|> |> |> try starting the computer in safe mode. I was unable to get

|> |> |> on line with it in safe mode however. I can poke around the

|> |> |> computer without it crashing while in safe mode so I suppose

|> |> |> that's something. Is there any kind of diagnostic I can run

|> |> |> in safe mode to find out what is wrong with my system?

|> |> |> Looking under the "Performance" tab under system properties it

|> |> |> said, "Compatibility-mode paging reduces overall system

|> |> |> performance". No clue what, if anything, that means.

|> |> |>

|> |> |> Cheers, John

|> |> |>

|> |> |> glee" wrote:

|> |> |>

|> |> |>> Do none of the errors name a file at the end?

|> |> |>>

|> |> |>> Example:

|> |> |>> Fatal exception 0D at 168F:016775E5 in VxD somefilename

|> |> |>>

|> |> |>> Have you checked your RAM?

|> |> |>> Windows Memory Tester

|> |> |>> http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp

|> |> |>>

|> |> |>> Are you getting the errors in Safe Mode?

|> |> |>>

|> |> |>> To start in Safe Mode:

|> |> |>> - Start the computer and hold down the CTRL key till the

|> |> |>> Windows 98 Startup menu (boot menu) appears.

|> |> |>> OR

|> |> |>> - Repeatedly tap the F8 key after the memory count to bring up

|> |> |>> the boot menu.

|> |> |>> - Use the arrow keys to select "Safe Mode" and press Enter.

|> |

|> |> |>>

|> |> |>> "vandenplas" <vandenplas@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

|> |> |>> message

|> |> |>> news:E88060C5-8159-4CFB-94C0-E6F9310B9971@microsoft.com...

|> |> |>> > Ok, here goes...

|> |> |>> >

|> |> |>> > OD 0909:01672468B

|> |> |>> > 0246:016747FB

|> |> |>> > 30AF:016F6B97

|> |> |>> > 0202:01674096

|> |> |>> > 2FAF:016F6B97

|> |> |>> > 168F:016775E5

|> |> |>> >

|> |> |>> > OE 1454:0167268B

|> |> |>> > 0187:BFF9DFFF

|> |> |>> > 0187:BFF8976B

|> |> |>> >

|> |> |>> > It seems that I'm at the point now where any time I try to

|> |> |>> > launch a program it freezes my computer. I don't know if it

|> |> |>> > means anything but each time I get another fatal exception

|> |> |>> > the number is slightly different whether it's an OE or OD

|> |> |>> > error. In fact, the exact letter/number sequence has yet to

|> |> |>> > repeat. It's weird because until recently my Win98SE

|> |> |>> > machine has always been more stable than my Win ME machine.

|> |> |>> >

|> |> |>> > Cheers, John

|> |> |>> >

|> |> |>> > "glee" wrote:

|> |> |>> >

|> |> |>> >> ....and the 9 fatal exceptions are what exactly, word for

|> |> |>> >> word?

|> |> |>> >>

|> |> |>> >> What Are Fatal Exception Errors

|> |> |>> >> http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=150314

|> |> |>> >>

|> |> |>> >> Bad RAM Causes Fatal Exception Errors Running Windows

|> |> |>> >> 95/98: http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=138788

|> |> |>> >>

|> |> |>> >> Err Msg: A Fatal Exception 0E Has Occurred at 0028

|> |> |>> >> http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=189655

|> |> |>> >>

|> |> |>> >> "Fatal Exception" Error Message When You Browse the

|> |> |>> >> Internet with a Cable Modem

|> |> |>> >> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=298576

|> |> |>> >>

|> |> |>> >> Fatal Exception Error When You Use Photo Editing Program

|> |> |>> >> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=302869

|> |> |>> >>

|> |> |>> >> "Fatal Exception 0D" Error Message Installing Program

|> |> |>> >> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=162390

|> |> |>> >>

|> |> |>> >> "Fatal Exception 0E" Error Message When Running McAfee

|> |> |>> >> VirusScan http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=177672

|> |> |>> >>

|> |> |>> >> Fatal Exception 0E Shutting Down Using a Matrox Video

|> |> |>> >> Adapter http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=253241

|> |

|> |> |>> >>

|> |> |>> >>

|> |> |>> >> "vandenplas" <vandenplas@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote

|> |> |>> >> in message

|> |> |>> >> news:BBF73E68-2146-4A68-BE46-2E59FCE2D06E@microsoft.com...

|> |> |>> >> > Hello. I'm running Windows 98SE on a 433mhz Gateway with

|> |> |>> >> > 256mb. For the last month or two I've only been able to

|> |> |>> >> > read/write 3 or 4 emails before I have to restart the

|> |> |>> >> > computer. Same thing holds true for surfing the web.

|> |> |>> >> > I've actually been putting up with this but now I can

|> |> |>> >> > connect to Aol but it freezes shortly after the welcome

|> |> |>> >> > screen loads. In the last three days I've had 9

|> |> |>> >> > different fatal exceptions. I have tried searching each

|> |> |>> >> > on on the internet from my other computer but don't find

|> |> |>> >> > them mentioned anywhere. I ran memtest from microsoft

|> |> |>> >> > but it said my memory was fine. Any suggestions?

|> |> |>> >> >

|> |> |>> >> > Cheers, John

|> |>

|> | --

|> | Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

|> | http://dts-l.org/

|> | http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

|>

|> --

|> Thanks or Good Luck,

|> There may be humor in this post, and,

|> Naturally, you will not sue,

|> Should things get worse after this,

|> PCR

|> pcrrcp@netzero.net

 

--

Thanks or Good Luck,

There may be humor in this post, and,

Naturally, you will not sue,

Should things get worse after this,

PCR

pcrrcp@netzero.net

[Guest vandenplas]

Re: Fatal exceptions

 

Actually, I did the clean boot before you posted the video suggestion. I

mispoke earlier. I have verizon DSL for my ISP but continue to use use aol

for email/homepage just because it's what I'm used to from the time when all

I could afford was regular dial-up. I will try the video suggestion and

report back. As for using my hotmail email account, I am only able to read

messages not reply. The minute I try to send an email from the hotmail

account the computer slows to a crawl and the email never goes through.

 

"glee" wrote:

> Well, you've skipped on ahead in troubleshooting, but without doing what I has asked

> first. The clean-boot procedure would be the next logical step, but you either did

> not try or did not report the results of *just* changing the display to VGA 640 x480

> x16 under the Advanced section of msconfig.

>

> After doing that, I would try the clean boot process both with the VGA 640 x480

> display and with your normal display driver, to see if there is any difference

>

> If you use AOL dial-up, you must connect with AOL and have their software running to

> stay connected. Neither IE nor Firefox will get online unless you are already

> connected with AOL. That's just one of the thousands of things I dislike about AOL,

> and why I never use or recommend it.

>

> Any recent version of McAfee is going to bring Win98 to its knees, and I would

> uninstall it and replace it with a much lighter anti-virus. Free ones are available

> that work in Win98: Grisoft's AVG, Alwill's Avast, or Avira Anti-Vir

>

> After you have replaced McAfee with something that works correctly in Win98, you may

> find some of your problems solved. Please try the suggestions above and in my

> previous reply, and post back with your results.

> --

> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

> http://dts-l.org/

> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

>

>

> "vandenplas" <vandenplas@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:B0583D79-D21B-4E42-876E-F7369FFEF6AE@microsoft.com...

> > Last Friday, after poking aournd the Microsoft web site, I did a Clean-Boot

> > and cleared all the boxes in the Selective Startup section. I was able to

> > get on the internet after doing so. Then I went back to the Selective

> > Startup menu and added one item back at a time. Each time I restarted the

> > computer and again tried to get on-line. The AOL/McAfee was causing the

> > Welcome Screen to freeze. I can now get on-line but the computer slows down

> > to a crawl not long after. Clicking on the blue "e" for internet explorer

> > has never gotten me on line so AOL is my only access. Maybe...two years ago

> > I tried installing Firefox but was never able to get it to work. Oh, after

> > the Clean Boot, I was able to read mail on my Hotmail account but as soon as

> > I tried to send an email the computer slowed and then stopped. Could the

> > video driver you mentioned earlier cause such a behaviour? Not sure if it

> > matters but after doing the clean boot the computer restarts much quicker.

> > Any thoughts or suggestions are welcome.

> >

> > Cheers, John

> >

> > "PCR" wrote:

> >

> >> glee wrote:

> >> | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

> >> | news:O1Vi5BGCIHA.5044@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> >> |> glee wrote:

> >> |> | In answer to your question in the other reply, yes, run the memory

> >> |> | diagnostic long loop test....all afternoon or overnight, whichever

> >> |> | is more convenient.

> >> |> |

> >> |> | Safe Mode in and of itself, is a sort of diagnostic test. If you

> >> |> | are not getting any errors while in Safe Mode, that pretty much

> >> |> | eliminates hardware as a problem, and puts the focus onto your

> >> |> | software and device drivers. Since Safe Mode does not load your

> >> |> | video driver but uses a generic one instead, the first driver to

> >> |> | suspect is the video driver (though by no means the only one to

> >> |> | suspect).

> >> |> |

> >> |> | You can test the video driver as a cause of the problem by starting

> >> |> | in Safe Mode, then running System Configuration (Start> Run>

> >> |> | msconfig), on the General tab click the Advanced button.

> >> |> | Put a check in the box for "VGA 640 x480 x16"

> >> |> | Click OK all the way out and restart in normal mode when prompted.

> >> |>

> >> |> It's interesting. The blurb for that box is...

> >> |>

> >> |> "Forces the display to use the VGA driver. The user will not be able

> >> |> to clear this check box if the VGA driver was already installed when

> >> |> starting the System Configuration Utility. This is equivalent to the

> >> |> Display.drv=Vga.drv setting in the System.ini file."

> >> |>

> >> |> Will he be able to clear it again in Safe Mode? Or, must he restore a

> >> |> prior System.ini? Should I experiment, or do you already know the

> >> |> answer?

> >> |

> >> | What the blurb means is:

> >> |

> >> | If the user has the display driver for his particular display adapter

> >> | installed, then the box will be clear when entering msconfig>

> >> | Advanced, and after checking the box, it will be able to be cleared

> >> | again.

> >> |

> >> | If the user is *already* using the "Standard VGA 640x480" generic

> >> | driver in Windows, the box will already be checked, and it will not

> >> | be possible to clear it. In order to clear it, another display

> >> | driver will have to be installed/loaded.

> >>

> >> I understand. If there is no alternative display driver, Windows knows

> >> better than to allow the box to be checked or unchecked. Otherwise, all

> >> will be fine with that box.

> >>

> >> | Please, feel free to experiment. ;-)

> >>

> >> No! I believe you implicitly! OK, thanks!

> >>

> >> |>

> >> |> Looks like TWO sections in System.ini mention "Display.drv="

> >> |>

> >> |> [boot]

> >> |> display.drv=pnpdrvr.drv

> >> |>

> >> |> [boot.description]

> >> |> display.drv=Trident Blade3D/MVP4 (63)

> >> |>

> >> |> | Does this have any effect on the error messages? If the errors

> >> |> | stop, the video driver is likely at fault.

> >> |

> >> |> |

> >> |> |

> >> |> | "vandenplas" <vandenplas@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

> >> |> | message news:C030A400-84B6-480E-80F1-30E7CC55FB4B@microsoft.com...

> >> |> |> Sorry I didn't notice the second part of your message. I did try

> >> |> |> starting the computer in safe mode. I was unable to get on line

> >> |> |> with it in safe mode however. I can poke around the computer

> >> |> |> without it crashing while in safe mode so I suppose that's

> >> |> |> something. Is there any kind of diagnostic I can run in safe mode

> >> |> |> to find out what is wrong with my system? Looking under the

> >> |> |> "Performance" tab under system properties it said,

> >> |> |> "Compatibility-mode paging reduces overall system performance".

> >> |> |> No clue what, if anything, that means.

> >> |> |>

> >> |> |> Cheers, John

> >> |> |>

> >> |> |> glee" wrote:

> >> |> |>

> >> |> |>> Do none of the errors name a file at the end?

> >> |> |>>

> >> |> |>> Example:

> >> |> |>> Fatal exception 0D at 168F:016775E5 in VxD somefilename

> >> |> |>>

> >> |> |>> Have you checked your RAM?

> >> |> |>> Windows Memory Tester

> >> |> |>> http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp

> >> |> |>>

> >> |> |>> Are you getting the errors in Safe Mode?

> >> |> |>>

> >> |> |>> To start in Safe Mode:

> >> |> |>> - Start the computer and hold down the CTRL key till the Windows

> >> |> |>> 98 Startup menu (boot menu) appears.

> >> |> |>> OR

> >> |> |>> - Repeatedly tap the F8 key after the memory count to bring up

> >> |> |>> the boot menu.

> >> |> |>> - Use the arrow keys to select "Safe Mode" and press Enter.

> >> |

> >> |> |>>

> >> |> |>> "vandenplas" <vandenplas@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

> >> |> |>> message

> >> |> |>> news:E88060C5-8159-4CFB-94C0-E6F9310B9971@microsoft.com...

> >> |> |>> > Ok, here goes...

> >> |> |>> >

> >> |> |>> > OD 0909:01672468B

> >> |> |>> > 0246:016747FB

> >> |> |>> > 30AF:016F6B97

> >> |> |>> > 0202:01674096

> >> |> |>> > 2FAF:016F6B97

> >> |> |>> > 168F:016775E5

> >> |> |>> >

> >> |> |>> > OE 1454:0167268B

> >> |> |>> > 0187:BFF9DFFF

> >> |> |>> > 0187:BFF8976B

> >> |> |>> >

> >> |> |>> > It seems that I'm at the point now where any time I try to

> >> |> |>> > launch a program it freezes my computer. I don't know if it

> >> |> |>> > means anything but each time I get another fatal exception the

> >> |> |>> > number is slightly different whether it's an OE or OD error.

> >> |> |>> > In fact, the exact letter/number sequence has yet to repeat.

> >> |> |>> > It's weird because until recently my Win98SE machine has

> >> |> |>> > always been more stable than my Win ME machine.

> >> |> |>> >

> >> |> |>> > Cheers, John

> >> |> |>> >

> >> |> |>> > "glee" wrote:

> >> |> |>> >

> >> |> |>> >> ....and the 9 fatal exceptions are what exactly, word for

> >> |> |>> >> word?

> >> |> |>> >>

> >> |> |>> >> What Are Fatal Exception Errors

> >> |> |>> >> http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=150314

> >> |> |>> >>

> >> |> |>> >> Bad RAM Causes Fatal Exception Errors Running Windows 95/98:

> >> |> |>> >> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=138788

> >> |> |>> >>

> >> |> |>> >> Err Msg: A Fatal Exception 0E Has Occurred at 0028

> >> |> |>> >> http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=189655

> >> |> |>> >>

> >> |> |>> >> "Fatal Exception" Error Message When You Browse the Internet

> >> |> |>> >> with a Cable Modem

> >> |> |>> >> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=298576

> >> |> |>> >>

> >> |> |>> >> Fatal Exception Error When You Use Photo Editing Program

> >> |> |>> >> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=302869

> >> |> |>> >>

> >> |> |>> >> "Fatal Exception 0D" Error Message Installing Program

> >> |> |>> >> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=162390

> >> |> |>> >>

> >> |> |>> >> "Fatal Exception 0E" Error Message When Running McAfee

> >> |> |>> >> VirusScan http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=177672

> >> |> |>> >>

> >> |> |>> >> Fatal Exception 0E Shutting Down Using a Matrox Video Adapter

> >> |> |>> >> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=253241

> >> |

> >> |> |>> >>

> >> |> |>> >>

> >> |> |>> >> "vandenplas" <vandenplas@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

> >> |> |>> >> message

> >> |> |>> >> news:BBF73E68-2146-4A68-BE46-2E59FCE2D06E@microsoft.com...

> >> |> |>> >> > Hello. I'm running Windows 98SE on a 433mhz Gateway with

> >> |> |>> >> > 256mb. For the last month or two I've only been able to

> >> |> |>> >> > read/write 3 or 4 emails before I have to restart the

> >> |> |>> >> > computer. Same thing holds true for surfing the web. I've

> >> |> |>> >> > actually been putting up with this but now I can connect to

> >> |> |>> >> > Aol but it freezes shortly after the welcome screen loads.

> >> |> |>> >> > In the last three days I've had 9 different fatal

> >> |> |>> >> > exceptions. I have tried searching each on on the internet

> >> |> |>> >> > from my other computer but don't find them mentioned

> >> |> |>> >> > anywhere. I ran memtest from microsoft but it said my

> >> |> |>> >> > memory was fine. Any suggestions?

> >> |> |>> >> >

> >> |> |>> >> > Cheers, John

> >> |>

> >> | --

> >> | Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

> >> | http://dts-l.org/

> >> | http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

> >>

> >> --

> >> Thanks or Good Luck,

> >> There may be humor in this post, and,

> >> Naturally, you will not sue,

> >> Should things get worse after this,

> >> PCR

> >> pcrrcp@netzero.net

> >>

> >>

> >>

>

>

[Guest glee]

Re: Fatal exceptions

 

"vandenplas" <vandenplas@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:2CB8AE2A-EFF8-4F9A-A7C0-8E0BD16F64DA@microsoft.com...

> Actually, I did the clean boot before you posted the video suggestion. I

> mispoke earlier. I have verizon DSL for my ISP but continue to use use aol

> for email/homepage just because it's what I'm used to from the time when all

> I could afford was regular dial-up. I will try the video suggestion and

> report back. As for using my hotmail email account, I am only able to read

> messages not reply. The minute I try to send an email from the hotmail

> account the computer slows to a crawl and the email never goes through.

 

What happened?

--

Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+

http://dts-l.org/