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quy nguyen wrote:

> Hi,

> I try to setup home network for my laptops and PC. All of them are same

> Workgroup and connect to the wireless router. some of them are windows

> XP and one Windows Vista. I am not able to browse the net work to see

> computer in WorkGroup. Thank you for any help.

 

Here are general network troubleshooting steps. Not everything may be

applicable to your situation, so just take the bits that are. It may

look daunting, but if you follow the steps at the links and suggestions

below systematically and calmly, you will have no difficulty in setting

up your sharing.

 

Excellent, thorough, yet easy to understand article about File/Printer

Sharing in Vista. Includes details about sharing printers as well as

files and folders:

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb727037.aspxThis link will

take you through Vista networking very well:

 

For XP, start by running the Network Setup Wizard on all machines (see

caveat in Item A below).

 

Problems sharing files between computers on a network are generally

caused by 1) a misconfigured firewall; or 2) inadvertently running two

firewalls such as the built-in Windows Firewall and a third-party

firewall; and/or 3) not having identical user accounts and passwords on

all Workgroup machines; 4) trying to create shares where the operating

system does not permit it. Read through the general networking tips

below and if you still are having difficulties, MVP Hans-Georg Michna

has an excellent small network troubleshooter here:

 

http://winhlp.com/wxnet.htm

 

Taking the time to go through his troubleshooter will usually pinpoint

the source of the problem(s).

 

Here are some general networking tips for home/small networks:

 

A. Configure firewalls on all machines to allow the Local Area Network

(LAN) traffic as trusted. With Windows Firewall, this means allowing

File/Printer Sharing on the Exceptions tab. Normally running the Network

Setup Wizard on XP will take care of this for those machines.The only

"gotcha" is that this will turn on the XPSP2 Windows Firewall. If you

aren't running a third-party firewall or have an antivirus with

"Internet Worm Protection" (like Norton 2006/07) which acts as a

firewall, then you're fine. With third-party firewalls, I usually

configure the LAN allowance with an IP range. Ex. would be

192.168.1.0-192.168.1.254. Obviously you would substitute your correct

subnet. Do not run more than one firewall.

 

B. With earlier Microsoft operating systems, the name of the Workgroup

didn't matter. Apparently it does with Vista, so put all computers in

the same Workgroup. This is done from the System applet in Control

Panel, Computer Name tab.

 

C. Create identical user accounts and passwords on all machines. If you

wish a machine to boot directly to the Desktop (into one particular

user's account) for convenience, you can do this. The instructions at

this link work for both XP and Vista:

 

Configure Windows to Automatically Login (MVP Ramesh) -

http://windowsxp.mvps.org/Autologon.htm

 

D. If one or more of the computers is XP Pro or Media Center:

 

1. If you need Pro's ability to set fine-grained permissions, turn off

Simple File Sharing (Folder Options>View tab) and create identical user

accounts/passwords on all computers.

 

2. If you don't care about using Pro's advanced features, leave the

Simple File Sharing enabled.

 

Simple File Sharing means that Guest (network) is enabled. This means

that anyone without a user account on the target system can use its

resources. This is a security hole but only you can decide if it matters

in your situation.

 

I think it is a good idea to create the identical user

accounts/passwords in any case when Vista machines are involved and it

isn't an onerous task with home/small networks.

 

E. Create shares as desired. XP Home does not permit sharing of users'

home directories (My Documents) or Program Files, but you can share

folders inside those directories. A better choice is to simply use the

Shared Documents folder. See the first link above for details about

Vista sharing.

 

 

Malke

--

Elephant Boy Computers

http://www.elephantboycomputers.com

"Don't Panic!"

MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User

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network issue, can not see each other

 

Hi,

I try to setup home network for my laptops and PC. All of them are same Workgroup and connect to the wireless router. some of them are windows XP and one Windows Vista. I am not able to browse the net work to see computer in WorkGroup. Thank you for any help.


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