&lt;PING&gt; Bill in Colo.

Practically Nerded,...

"Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

news:%23KAzALjCIHA.4360@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

| Angel wrote:

| > Hi Bill,

| >

| > "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

| > news:ehE2%23MhCIHA.4880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

| >> bobster wrote:

| >>> Wow, this seems to have degenerated into a "who is the oldest fogey"

on

| this

| >>> board.

| >>>

| >>> Well, here is 'ole Bobster's entry:

| >>>

| >>> Born 1930, married 1950, both of us still going strong, terrorizing

the

| >>> countryside in our vintage Porsche Carrera Targa. Life is sweet!

| >

| > Life is Great!!

| >

| > Like they say, "you are only as old as you feel and act"

|

| Well, yes and no. I think there's a bit more to it than that, if you

look

| a the world critically and carefully, and really care about the societal

| (not technological) changes affecting so many of us today.

|

| From what I've seen of many of these changes in society over the past 5+

| decades, I'm just not too impressed - with the major exception of race

| relations, of course.

|

| But as for ... personal responsibility, and personal accountability,

| nowadays? And perseverance (not just sound bites)? And the plethora

of

| single parent homes today, and the increasing breakup of the family unit?

| Ummm, count me out of "how great it is these days" (sociologically

| speaking).

|

October 10, 2007

Re: <PING> Bill in Colo.

Dan,

You *have* to realize when you cross fellow-posters boundaries. No

disrespect here, it's just what I note and see.

Angel has made it very clear she is a very private person, and you must

respect that. If she wants you to know something of a personal nature, I'm

sure she'll let you know.

Her desire for privacy and anonymity should have been obvious to you when

she let you know that she does not give out e-mail addresses. From that

point on, one must exhibit *appropriate* behavior, or risk the loss of

possibly good friend.

Dan, you are a very open type person. Please bear in mind that *most*

people are not as open about their lives as you. The biggest exception

would be self-help groups similar to AA, NA, etc., whose methods are quite

impressive.

--

Not trying to hurt your feelings,

Curt

Windows Support Center

Practically Nerded,...

"Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:55F5C09B-8798-4CF3-B4C7-134CB788CB37@microsoft.com...

|I think your name Angel is really cool. What is your oldest grandchild's

| name if you don't mind me being nosy. <grin>

|

| "Angel" wrote:

|

| > Dan,

| > You are about 6 months older than my oldest grandchild.

| > Angel

| >

| > "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

| > news:12663DBA-903D-428C-A8E5-2FB223EF8C63@microsoft.com...

| > > I may take the cake for being the youngest at 32 here in this

newsgroup

| > and

| > > in my church I am one of the older guys. LOL!!

| >

October 10, 2007

Re: <PING> Bill in Colo.

Peace, Angel. <backs away slowly>

"Angel" wrote:

> Dan,

>

> YES, you ARE very nosy!!!

> I believe in a policy that works on the premise of "a need to know

> bases and you do not need to know". One thing I WILL tell you his name is

> not Dan!

>

> "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:55F5C09B-8798-4CF3-B4C7-134CB788CB37@microsoft.com...

> > I think your name Angel is really cool. What is your oldest grandchild's

> > name if you don't mind me being nosy. <grin>

> >

> > "Angel" wrote:

> >

> > > Dan,

> > > You are about 6 months older than my oldest grandchild.

> > > Angel

> > >

> > > "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> > > news:12663DBA-903D-428C-A8E5-2FB223EF8C63@microsoft.com...

> > > > I may take the cake for being the youngest at 32 here in this

> newsgroup

> > > and

> > > > in my church I am one of the older guys. LOL!!

> > >

>

October 10, 2007

Re: <PING> Bill in Colo.

Thanks for the advice, Curt.

"Curt Christianson" wrote:

> Dan,

>

> You *have* to realize when you cross fellow-posters boundaries. No

> disrespect here, it's just what I note and see.

>

> Angel has made it very clear she is a very private person, and you must

> respect that. If she wants you to know something of a personal nature, I'm

> sure she'll let you know.

>

> Her desire for privacy and anonymity should have been obvious to you when

> she let you know that she does not give out e-mail addresses. From that

> point on, one must exhibit *appropriate* behavior, or risk the loss of

> possibly good friend.

>

> Dan, you are a very open type person. Please bear in mind that *most*

> people are not as open about their lives as you. The biggest exception

> would be self-help groups similar to AA, NA, etc., whose methods are quite

> impressive.

> --

> Not trying to hurt your feelings,

> Curt

>

> Windows Support Center

> Practically Nerded,...

>

> "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:55F5C09B-8798-4CF3-B4C7-134CB788CB37@microsoft.com...

> |I think your name Angel is really cool. What is your oldest grandchild's

> | name if you don't mind me being nosy. <grin>

> |

> | "Angel" wrote:

> |

> | > Dan,

> | > You are about 6 months older than my oldest grandchild.

> | > Angel

> | >

> | > "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> | > news:12663DBA-903D-428C-A8E5-2FB223EF8C63@microsoft.com...

> | > > I may take the cake for being the youngest at 32 here in this

> newsgroup

> | > and

> | > > in my church I am one of the older guys. LOL!!

> | >

>

October 10, 2007

Re: <PING> Bill in Colo.

No, No --- The good year was 1975 --- Year of Microsoft and the A-10

Thunderbolt II (The Warthog). <smile>

"bobster" wrote:

> Thank heavens none of us was born in that black year, 1929 although my keel

> was laid in '29 ;-)

>

> =======================================================================

> "Galen Somerville" <galen@surewest.net> wrote in message

> news:%23Yi8W$nCIHA.3332@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> 1928 was a much better year !!!

>

> Galen

>

> "bobster" <fauxie@bogus.net> wrote in message

> news:uvmT64jCIHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> > Hi, Angel. 1930 was a good year! My wife of 57 years was also born in

> '30.

> >

> > "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message

> > news:eCK9Y2hCIHA.5600@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> > Hi, this is a P.S.,

> > I just read the bobster's entry. We were born the same year!

> > Angel

> >

> > "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message

> > news:e%23uqBuhCIHA.5044@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> > > Hi Bill,

> > >

> > > "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

> > > news:ehE2%23MhCIHA.4880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> > > > bobster wrote:

> > > > > Wow, this seems to have degenerated into a "who is the oldest fogey"

> > on

> > > > this

> > > > > board.

> > > > >

> > > > > Well, here is 'ole Bobster's entry:

> > > > >

> > > > > Born 1930, married 1950, both of us still going strong, terrorizing

> > the

> > > > > countryside in our vintage Porsche Carrera Targa. Life is sweet!

> > >

> > > Life is Great!!

> > >

> > > Like they say, "you are only as old as you feel and act" I don't feel

> nor

> > > act that old! No one believes my age neither.

> > > > >

> > > > > And BTW Bill, antenna design is a very highly developed science

> based

> > on

> > > > > solid electromagnetic theory and principles. Those who see it only

> as

> > > an

> > > > > art are usually tinkerers or hams who don't have the educational

> > > > background

> > > > > to understand and apply the fundamentals of the theory.

> > > >

> > > > Yup. Ain't it the truth.

> > > >

> > > Never was a ham operator. I used to get on the CB a lot of evenings

> after

> > > work. I enjoyed doing so. I have not done that for a long time. The

> > brackets

> > > let loose and my antenna dropped through the roof.. Had to have the hole

> > in

> > > the roof repaired. I still have the CB and wire. What a change! Now I

> get

> > on

> > > the computer. <G>

> > >

> > > Angel

> > > >

> > > > > =====================================================

> > > > > "Curt Christianson" <curtchristnsn@NOSPAM.Yahoo.com> wrote in

> message

> > > > > news:OD8LnRICIHA.1408@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> > > > > Oh well couple of days late responding.

> > > > >

> > > > > Just curious Bill,I was about to undertake a EE, and got married

> > > instead.

> > > > > Obviously long-range plans aren't my forte. Just kidding, I have

> the

> > > > utmost

> > > > > respect and admiration for women.

> > > > >

> > > > > What was your main area of discipline? I used to be quite a ham

> > > operator,

> > > > > and RF still fascinates the heck out of me

> > > > >

> > > > > You can read *all* the books you want, author them even, but antenna

> > > > theory

> > > > > has far too many variables to ever relegate it to a science, it will

> > > > always

> > > > > be any art, unless you start talking Very High Powered Microwaves,

> > and

> > > > even

> > > > > then you better not has the slightest burr on the inside of the

> > > > > waveguide<OMIGOSH>.

> > > > >

> > > > > Where is you level of expertise in??

> > > > >

> > > > > 73,(old ham lingo)

> > > > >

> > > > > --

> > > > > Curt

> > > > >

> > > > > Windows Support Center

> > > > > http://www.aumha.org

> > > > > Practically Nerded,...

> > > > > http://dundats.mvps.org/Index.htm

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

October 10, 2007

Re: <PING> Bill in Colo.

.. . . And I am a Youngster ---- You had me fooled Curt because I always

thought you were much younger --- nice show you put on --- <grin>

"Curt Christianson" wrote:

> Dan,

>

> Just ask Glee. I'm an "oldster"!

>

> --

> HTH,

> Curt

>

> Windows Support Center

> Practically Nerded,...

http://members.cox.net/slatteryt

>

> "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:293CC3CA-CEEF-43B7-88DC-4014B48AA472@microsoft.com...

> | Man, you got married when I was 1 or less years old!

> |

> | "Curt Christianson" wrote:

> |

> | > And many more Rick. Took the plunge in 1976, but realistically, all

> little

> | > too young.

> | >

> | > --

> | > HTH,

> | > Curt

> | >

> | > Windows Support Center

> | > http://www.aumha.org

> | > Practically Nerded,...

> | > http://dundats.mvps.org/Index.htm

> | >

> | > "Rick Chauvin" <justask@nospamz.com> wrote in message

> | > news:eibk2KTCIHA.4360@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> | > |

> | > | "Curt Christianson" <curtchristnsn@NOSPAM.Yahoo.com> wrote in message

> | > | news:%23bsBR9QCIHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl

> | > | > I won't mention my b-date either, but I graduated from HS in 1973!

> | > |

> | > | I got married in July of 1973 :)

> | > | ..well, that was my first marriage anyway... <g>

> | > | The second one was even better, and still going strong <smile>

> | > |

> | > | Rick

> | > |

> | > | >

> | > | > --

> | > | > HTH,

> | > | > Curt

> | > |

> | >

>

October 10, 2007

Re: <PING> Bill in Colo.

"Curt Christianson" <curtchristnsn@NOSPAM.Yahoo.com> wrote:

>Thanks for the note Bill.

>

>I know 73 is still in use, but the average person has no idea some how far

>back some of our lingo goes. Even though I'm not licensed at the moment,

>I'll always feel like a ham.

A lot of it goes back to when the only way to communicate on the air

was by Morse Code. You'd generate dots and dashes just by turning the

transmitter on and off, that's why it came to be called CW (Continuous

Wave). Things like 73 and all the Q signals are abbreviations to try

to speed things up in that incredibly low-speed world.

And now you don't even have to know Morse to get a Ham license. The

world is ending!

Tim Slattery

WD4PWG

--

Tim Slattery

MS MVP(DTS)

Slattery_T@bls.gov

October 10, 2007

Re: <PING> Bill in Colo.

Hi Tim,

All right, ANOTHER ham. The *worst* thing the FCC ever did was lift the

code requirement. Learning the code takes a lot of dedication, which showed

something serious about the applicant. It also served to keep out the

"lids"

"No lids, no kids, no space cadets..."

--

73,

Curt (ex WBØDOU)-gonna get that thing back too!

P.S. I would imagine there are a huge number of hams among us in these

groups.

Windows Support Center

Practically Nerded,...

| http://members.cox.net/slatteryt

"Tim Slattery" <Slattery_T@bls.gov> wrote in message

news:78ipg39elsm4jrevkuspic052el548glau@4ax.com...

| "Curt Christianson" <curtchristnsn@NOSPAM.Yahoo.com> wrote:

|

| >Thanks for the note Bill.

| >

| >I know 73 is still in use, but the average person has no idea some how

far

| >back some of our lingo goes. Even though I'm not licensed at the moment,

| >I'll always feel like a ham.

|

| A lot of it goes back to when the only way to communicate on the air

| was by Morse Code. You'd generate dots and dashes just by turning the

| transmitter on and off, that's why it came to be called CW (Continuous

| Wave). Things like 73 and all the Q signals are abbreviations to try

| to speed things up in that incredibly low-speed world.

|

| And now you don't even have to know Morse to get a Ham license. The

| world is ending!

|

| Tim Slattery

| WD4PWG

|

| --

| Tim Slattery

| MS MVP(DTS)

| Slattery_T@bls.gov

October 10, 2007

Re: <PING> Bill in Colo.

You are very welcome, my friend!

--

HTH,

Curt

Windows Support Center

Practically Nerded,...

"Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:F13A12AE-E6F1-4944-8402-2BC4DC925888@microsoft.com...

| Thanks for the advice, Curt.

|

| "Curt Christianson" wrote:

|

| > Dan,

| >

| > You *have* to realize when you cross fellow-posters boundaries. No

| > disrespect here, it's just what I note and see.

| >

| > Angel has made it very clear she is a very private person, and you must

| > respect that. If she wants you to know something of a personal nature,

I'm

| > sure she'll let you know.

| >

| > Her desire for privacy and anonymity should have been obvious to you

when

| > she let you know that she does not give out e-mail addresses. From that

| > point on, one must exhibit *appropriate* behavior, or risk the loss of

| > possibly good friend.

| >

| > Dan, you are a very open type person. Please bear in mind that *most*

| > people are not as open about their lives as you. The biggest exception

| > would be self-help groups similar to AA, NA, etc., whose methods are

quite

| > impressive.

| > --

| > Not trying to hurt your feelings,

| > Curt

| >

| > Windows Support Center

| > Practically Nerded,...

| >

| > "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

| > news:55F5C09B-8798-4CF3-B4C7-134CB788CB37@microsoft.com...

| > |I think your name Angel is really cool. What is your oldest

grandchild's

| > | name if you don't mind me being nosy. <grin>

| > |

| > | "Angel" wrote:

| > |

| > | > Dan,

| > | > You are about 6 months older than my oldest grandchild.

| > | > Angel

| > | >

| > | > "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

| > | > news:12663DBA-903D-428C-A8E5-2FB223EF8C63@microsoft.com...

| > | > > I may take the cake for being the youngest at 32 here in this

| > newsgroup

| > | > and

| > | > > in my church I am one of the older guys. LOL!!

| > | >

| >

October 10, 2007

Re: <PING> Bill in Colo.

I always thought MORSE Code was cool when I was a boy and even though I never

learned it; I think it is a shame that it is being done away with now. I

guess digital is the new wave of the future. Heck, with my tri-mode phone we

supposedly will not have any more analog signals or at least the FCC will not

require the wireless companies to continue to maintain their analog signal

towers after February 2008. In addition, the era of analog is ending by my

favorite airplane the A-10 Thunderbolt II (Warthog) with it titanium alloy

armor and its Gatling Gun being updated from analog to digital capabilities.

Finally, I will continue to enjoy and use analog technology especially on my

old Roland MT-32 music card to play old and outdated but very fun games on my

old IBM 486 PC with DOS 5 and Windows 3.1 -- Notice how I put DOS first ---

"Curt Christianson" wrote:

> Hi Tim,

>

> All right, ANOTHER ham. The *worst* thing the FCC ever did was lift the

> code requirement. Learning the code takes a lot of dedication, which showed

> something serious about the applicant. It also served to keep out the

> "lids"

>

> "No lids, no kids, no space cadets..."

>

> --

> 73,

> Curt (ex WBØDOU)-gonna get that thing back too!

>

> P.S. I would imagine there are a huge number of hams among us in these

> groups.

>

> Windows Support Center

> Practically Nerded,...

>

> "Tim Slattery" <Slattery_T@bls.gov> wrote in message

> news:78ipg39elsm4jrevkuspic052el548glau@4ax.com...

> | "Curt Christianson" <curtchristnsn@NOSPAM.Yahoo.com> wrote:

> |

> | >Thanks for the note Bill.

> | >

> | >I know 73 is still in use, but the average person has no idea some how

> far

> | >back some of our lingo goes. Even though I'm not licensed at the moment,

> | >I'll always feel like a ham.

> |

> | A lot of it goes back to when the only way to communicate on the air

> | was by Morse Code. You'd generate dots and dashes just by turning the

> | transmitter on and off, that's why it came to be called CW (Continuous

> | Wave). Things like 73 and all the Q signals are abbreviations to try

> | to speed things up in that incredibly low-speed world.

> |

> | And now you don't even have to know Morse to get a Ham license. The

> | world is ending!

> |

> | Tim Slattery

> | WD4PWG

> |

> | --

> | Tim Slattery

> | MS MVP(DTS)

> | Slattery_T@bls.gov

> | http://members.cox.net/slatteryt

>

October 10, 2007

Re: <PING> Bill in Colo.

Dan,

Good old fashioned Morse Code is still be the best medium to use under

extremely adverse conditions. (Lightning storms, other QRM, just plain

scarcity of bandwidth (code takes up essentially no bandwidth, although that

does change with Xmitting speed, but it's still of little consequence).

Morse code, crude as it may be will still get through when nothing will.

Don't mis-understand me, sometimes *nothing* can get through, including

code. A significant Aurora Borealis (Northern Lights) can wipe out

communications of *all* types for thousands of miles. Once in a while, a

ham with a lot of patience and savvy, will get short bursts of communication

through using code.

Fun, fun , hobby. And if you aren't careful, a *very* expensive hobby, as

nobody homebrews their systems anymore, the biggest reason is we can't get

the parts.

--

HTH,

Curt

Windows Support Center

Practically Nerded,...

"Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:AD0C7FF1-D449-4FD1-8911-F09F6E52DF9D@microsoft.com...

|I always thought MORSE Code was cool when I was a boy and even though I

never

| learned it; I think it is a shame that it is being done away with now. I

| guess digital is the new wave of the future. Heck, with my tri-mode phone

we

| supposedly will not have any more analog signals or at least the FCC will

not

| require the wireless companies to continue to maintain their analog signal

| towers after February 2008. In addition, the era of analog is ending by

my

| favorite airplane the A-10 Thunderbolt II (Warthog) with it titanium alloy

| armor and its Gatling Gun being updated from analog to digital

capabilities.

| Finally, I will continue to enjoy and use analog technology especially on

my

| old Roland MT-32 music card to play old and outdated but very fun games on

my

| old IBM 486 PC with DOS 5 and Windows 3.1 -- Notice how I put DOS

first ---

| <evil grin>

|

| "Curt Christianson" wrote:

|

| > Hi Tim,

| >

| > All right, ANOTHER ham. The *worst* thing the FCC ever did was lift the

| > code requirement. Learning the code takes a lot of dedication, which

showed

| > something serious about the applicant. It also served to keep out the

| > "lids"

| >

| > "No lids, no kids, no space cadets..."

| >

| > --

| > 73,

| > Curt (ex WBØDOU)-gonna get that thing back too!

| >

| > P.S. I would imagine there are a huge number of hams among us in these

| > groups.

| >

| > Windows Support Center

| > Practically Nerded,...

| >

| > "Tim Slattery" <Slattery_T@bls.gov> wrote in message

| > news:78ipg39elsm4jrevkuspic052el548glau@4ax.com...

| > | "Curt Christianson" <curtchristnsn@NOSPAM.Yahoo.com> wrote:

| > |

| > | >Thanks for the note Bill.

| > | >

| > | >I know 73 is still in use, but the average person has no idea some

how

| > far

| > | >back some of our lingo goes. Even though I'm not licensed at the

moment,

| > | >I'll always feel like a ham.

| > |

| > | A lot of it goes back to when the only way to communicate on the air

| > | was by Morse Code. You'd generate dots and dashes just by turning the

| > | transmitter on and off, that's why it came to be called CW (Continuous

| > | Wave). Things like 73 and all the Q signals are abbreviations to try

| > | to speed things up in that incredibly low-speed world.

| > |

| > | And now you don't even have to know Morse to get a Ham license. The

| > | world is ending!

| > |

| > | Tim Slattery

| > | WD4PWG

| > |

| > | --

| > | Tim Slattery

| > | MS MVP(DTS)

| > | Slattery_T@bls.gov

| > | http://members.cox.net/slatteryt

| >

October 10, 2007

Re: <PING> Bill in Colo.

Curt,

Thanks, you hit the nail right.on the head.

I hope Dan pays attention and it does not go over his head. He does

take me serious. I do not appreciate his type of attention. I may soon tell

him to get lost! He would not be the first one that I told where to go.

Angel

"Curt Christianson" <curtchristnsn@NOSPAM.Yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:O81vwyvCIHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> Dan,

>

> You *have* to realize when you cross fellow-posters boundaries. No

> disrespect here, it's just what I note and see.

>

> Angel has made it very clear she is a very private person, and you must

> respect that. If she wants you to know something of a personal nature,

I'm

> sure she'll let you know.

>

> Her desire for privacy and anonymity should have been obvious to you when

> she let you know that she does not give out e-mail addresses. From that

> point on, one must exhibit *appropriate* behavior, or risk the loss of

> possibly good friend.

>

> Dan, you are a very open type person. Please bear in mind that *most*

> people are not as open about their lives as you. The biggest exception

> would be self-help groups similar to AA, NA, etc., whose methods are quite

> impressive.

> --

> Not trying to hurt your feelings,

> Curt

>

> Windows Support Center

> Practically Nerded,...

>

> "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:55F5C09B-8798-4CF3-B4C7-134CB788CB37@microsoft.com...

> |I think your name Angel is really cool. What is your oldest grandchild's

> | name if you don't mind me being nosy. <grin>

> |

> | "Angel" wrote:

> |

> | > Dan,

> | > You are about 6 months older than my oldest grandchild.

> | > Angel

> | >

> | > "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> | > news:12663DBA-903D-428C-A8E5-2FB223EF8C63@microsoft.com...

> | > > I may take the cake for being the youngest at 32 here in this

> newsgroup

> | > and

> | > > in my church I am one of the older guys. LOL!!

> | >

>

October 10, 2007

Re: <PING> Bill in Colo.

Correction: In Line

"Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message

news:uhbkQA3CIHA.3884@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> Curt,

>

> Thanks, you hit the nail right.on the head.

>

> I hope Dan pays attention and it does not go over his head.

>He does

> take me serious.

Should read: Does NOT take me serious! Even though I do hope he would!

I do not appreciate his type of attention. I may soon tell

> him to get lost! He would not be the first one that I told where to go.

>

> Angel

>

> "Curt Christianson" <curtchristnsn@NOSPAM.Yahoo.com> wrote in message

> news:O81vwyvCIHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> > Dan,

> >

> > You *have* to realize when you cross fellow-posters boundaries. No

> > disrespect here, it's just what I note and see.

> >

> > Angel has made it very clear she is a very private person, and you must

> > respect that. If she wants you to know something of a personal nature,

> I'm

> > sure she'll let you know.

> >

> > Her desire for privacy and anonymity should have been obvious to you

when

> > she let you know that she does not give out e-mail addresses. From that

> > point on, one must exhibit *appropriate* behavior, or risk the loss of

> > possibly good friend.

> >

> > Dan, you are a very open type person. Please bear in mind that *most*

> > people are not as open about their lives as you. The biggest exception

> > would be self-help groups similar to AA, NA, etc., whose methods are

quite

> > impressive.

> > --

> > Not trying to hurt your feelings,

> > Curt

> >

> > Windows Support Center

> > http://www.aumha.org

> > Practically Nerded,...

> > http://dundats.mvps.org/Index.htm

> >

> > "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> > news:55F5C09B-8798-4CF3-B4C7-134CB788CB37@microsoft.com...

> > |I think your name Angel is really cool. What is your oldest

grandchild's

> > | name if you don't mind me being nosy. <grin>

> > |

> > | "Angel" wrote:

> > |

> > | > Dan,

> > | > You are about 6 months older than my oldest grandchild.

> > | > Angel

> > | >

> > | > "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> > | > news:12663DBA-903D-428C-A8E5-2FB223EF8C63@microsoft.com...

> > | > > I may take the cake for being the youngest at 32 here in this

> > newsgroup

> > | > and

> > | > > in my church I am one of the older guys. LOL!!

> > | >

> >

>

October 11, 2007

Re: <PING> Bill in Colo.

You are most welcome kind maiden. <G>

--

HTH,

Curt

Windows Support Center

Practically Nerded,...

"Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message

news:uhbkQA3CIHA.3884@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

| Curt,

|

| Thanks, you hit the nail right.on the head.

|

| I hope Dan pays attention and it does not go over his head. He does

| take me serious. I do not appreciate his type of attention. I may soon

tell

| him to get lost! He would not be the first one that I told where to go.

|

| Angel

|

| "Curt Christianson" <curtchristnsn@NOSPAM.Yahoo.com> wrote in message

| news:O81vwyvCIHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

| > Dan,

| >

| > You *have* to realize when you cross fellow-posters boundaries. No

| > disrespect here, it's just what I note and see.

| >

| > Angel has made it very clear she is a very private person, and you must

| > respect that. If she wants you to know something of a personal nature,

| I'm

| > sure she'll let you know.

| >

| > Her desire for privacy and anonymity should have been obvious to you

when

| > she let you know that she does not give out e-mail addresses. From that

| > point on, one must exhibit *appropriate* behavior, or risk the loss of

| > possibly good friend.

| >

| > Dan, you are a very open type person. Please bear in mind that *most*

| > people are not as open about their lives as you. The biggest exception

| > would be self-help groups similar to AA, NA, etc., whose methods are

quite

| > impressive.

| > --

| > Not trying to hurt your feelings,

| > Curt

| >

| > Windows Support Center

| > Practically Nerded,...

| >

| > "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

| > news:55F5C09B-8798-4CF3-B4C7-134CB788CB37@microsoft.com...

| > |I think your name Angel is really cool. What is your oldest

grandchild's

| > | name if you don't mind me being nosy. <grin>

| > |

| > | "Angel" wrote:

| > |

| > | > Dan,

| > | > You are about 6 months older than my oldest grandchild.

| > | > Angel

| > | >

| > | > "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

| > | > news:12663DBA-903D-428C-A8E5-2FB223EF8C63@microsoft.com...

| > | > > I may take the cake for being the youngest at 32 here in this

| > newsgroup

| > | > and

| > | > > in my church I am one of the older guys. LOL!!

| > | >

| >

|

October 11, 2007

Re: <PING> Bill in Colo.

You are most welcome kind maiden. <G>

--

HTH,

Curt

Windows Support Center

Practically Nerded,...

"Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message

news:uhbkQA3CIHA.3884@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

| Curt,

|

| Thanks, you hit the nail right.on the head.

|

| I hope Dan pays attention and it does not go over his head. He does

| take me serious. I do not appreciate his type of attention. I may soon

tell

| him to get lost! He would not be the first one that I told where to go.

|

| Angel

|

| "Curt Christianson" <curtchristnsn@NOSPAM.Yahoo.com> wrote in message

| news:O81vwyvCIHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

| > Dan,

| >

| > You *have* to realize when you cross fellow-posters boundaries. No

| > disrespect here, it's just what I note and see.

| >

| > Angel has made it very clear she is a very private person, and you must

| > respect that. If she wants you to know something of a personal nature,

| I'm

| > sure she'll let you know.

| >

| > Her desire for privacy and anonymity should have been obvious to you

when

| > she let you know that she does not give out e-mail addresses. From that

| > point on, one must exhibit *appropriate* behavior, or risk the loss of

| > possibly good friend.

| >

| > Dan, you are a very open type person. Please bear in mind that *most*

| > people are not as open about their lives as you. The biggest exception

| > would be self-help groups similar to AA, NA, etc., whose methods are

quite

| > impressive.

| > --

| > Not trying to hurt your feelings,

| > Curt

| >

| > Windows Support Center

| > Practically Nerded,...

| >

| > "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

| > news:55F5C09B-8798-4CF3-B4C7-134CB788CB37@microsoft.com...

| > |I think your name Angel is really cool. What is your oldest

grandchild's

| > | name if you don't mind me being nosy. <grin>

| > |

| > | "Angel" wrote:

| > |

| > | > Dan,

| > | > You are about 6 months older than my oldest grandchild.

| > | > Angel

| > | >

| > | > "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

| > | > news:12663DBA-903D-428C-A8E5-2FB223EF8C63@microsoft.com...

| > | > > I may take the cake for being the youngest at 32 here in this

| > newsgroup

| > | > and

| > | > > in my church I am one of the older guys. LOL!!

| > | >

| >

|

October 12, 2007

Re: <PING> Bill in Colo.

> Angel wrote:

>> Hi Bill,

>>

>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

>> news:ehE2%23MhCIHA.4880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>> bobster wrote:

>>>> Wow, this seems to have degenerated into a "who is the oldest fogey" on

>>>> this board.

>>>>

>>>> Well, here is 'ole Bobster's entry:

>>>>

>>>> Born 1930, married 1950, both of us still going strong, terrorizing the

>>>> countryside in our vintage Porsche Carrera Targa. Life is sweet!

>>

>> Life is Great!!

>>

>> Like they say, "you are only as old as you feel and act"

>

> Well, yes and no. I think there's a bit more to it than that, if you

look

> a the world critically and carefully, and really care about the societal

> (not technological) changes affecting so many of us today.

>

> From what I've seen of many of these changes in society over the past 5+

> decades, I'm just not too impressed - with the major exception of race

> relations, of course.

>

> But as for ... personal responsibility, and personal accountability,

> nowadays? And perseverance (not just sound bites)? And the plethora

of

> single parent homes today, and the increasing breakup of the family unit?

> Ummm, count me out of "how great it is these days" (sociologically

speaking).

No comment? Maybe it was too depressing. Sorry.

October 12, 2007

Re: <PING> Bill in Colo.

Hi Bill,

I have to say I agree with you ENTIRELY. Virtually no one takes any personal

responsibility.

The one that always comes to mind is suing MacDonald's for not warning us

that coffee is HOT!

--

HTH,

Curt

Windows Support Center

Practically Nerded,...

"Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

news:%233LDVRHDIHA.3848@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

|> Angel wrote:

| >> Hi Bill,

| >>

| >> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

| >> news:ehE2%23MhCIHA.4880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

| >>> bobster wrote:

| >>>> Wow, this seems to have degenerated into a "who is the oldest fogey"

on

| >>>> this board.

| >>>>

| >>>> Well, here is 'ole Bobster's entry:

| >>>>

| >>>> Born 1930, married 1950, both of us still going strong, terrorizing

the

| >>>> countryside in our vintage Porsche Carrera Targa. Life is sweet!

| >>

| >> Life is Great!!

| >>

| >> Like they say, "you are only as old as you feel and act"

| >

| > Well, yes and no. I think there's a bit more to it than that, if you

| look

| > a the world critically and carefully, and really care about the societal

| > (not technological) changes affecting so many of us today.

| >

| > From what I've seen of many of these changes in society over the past 5+

| > decades, I'm just not too impressed - with the major exception of race

| > relations, of course.

| >

| > But as for ... personal responsibility, and personal accountability,

| > nowadays? And perseverance (not just sound bites)? And the

plethora

| of

| > single parent homes today, and the increasing breakup of the family

unit?

| > Ummm, count me out of "how great it is these days" (sociologically

| speaking).

|

| No comment? Maybe it was too depressing. Sorry.

|

October 12, 2007

Re: <PING> Bill in Colo.

I think what it means is .. that we're getting old.

And perhaps are taking the world "too seriously".

And you know, that Serenity Prayer thing (about the things you can't change,

you just should ignore)

Curt Christianson wrote:

> Hi Bill,

>

> I have to say I agree with you ENTIRELY. Virtually no one takes any

personal

> responsibility.

>

> The one that always comes to mind is suing MacDonald's for not warning us

> that coffee is HOT!

>

> --

> HTH,

> Curt

>

> Windows Support Center

> Practically Nerded,...

>

> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

> news:%233LDVRHDIHA.3848@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>> Angel wrote:

>>>> Hi Bill,

>>>>

>>>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

>>>> news:ehE2%23MhCIHA.4880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>>> bobster wrote:

>>>>>> Wow, this seems to have degenerated into a "who is the oldest fogey"

on

>>>>>> this board.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Well, here is 'ole Bobster's entry:

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Born 1930, married 1950, both of us still going strong, terrorizing

the

>>>>>> countryside in our vintage Porsche Carrera Targa. Life is sweet!

>>>>

>>>> Life is Great!!

>>>>

>>>> Like they say, "you are only as old as you feel and act"

>>>

>>> Well, yes and no. I think there's a bit more to it than that, if you

look

>>> a the world critically and carefully, and really care about the societal

>>> (not technological) changes affecting so many of us today.

>>>

>>> From what I've seen of many of these changes in society over the past 5+

>>> decades, I'm just not too impressed - with the major exception of race

>>> relations, of course.

>>>

>>> But as for ... personal responsibility, and personal accountability,

>>> nowadays? And perseverance (not just sound bites)? And the

plethora of

>>> single parent homes today, and the increasing breakup of the family

unit?

>>> Ummm, count me out of "how great it is these days" (sociologically

>>> speaking).

>>

>> No comment? Maybe it was too depressing. Sorry.

October 13, 2007

Re: <PING> Bill in Colo.

Bill,

I have had reason to use the "Serenity Prayer" often more than once a day.

Wish I were one of your students. I used to have an electronics book that

Northwestern Electronics Institute used back in the 70's. It was called

"Electronic Communication" and was written by Robert Schrader. Had tube and

transistor theory in there. I liked the book because it dealt primarily

with RF, which just fascinates me. I lost that book in a move, and I've

"cried" about it ever since. It was a neat book in that it started out

assuming you didn't know a thing about electronics, or its' components. I'd

give anything to find that book again, but the finances are a little too

tight right now for that anyway.

It has amazed me how many teachers and students too who remember that book.

--

HTH,

Curt

Windows Support Center

Practically Nerded,...

"Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

news:uK7GWzQDIHA.4952@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

|I think what it means is .. that we're getting old.

| And perhaps are taking the world "too seriously".

| And you know, that Serenity Prayer thing (about the things you can't

change,

| you just should ignore)

|

| Curt Christianson wrote:

| > Hi Bill,

| >

| > I have to say I agree with you ENTIRELY. Virtually no one takes any

| personal

| > responsibility.

| >

| > The one that always comes to mind is suing MacDonald's for not warning

us

| > that coffee is HOT!

| >

| > --

| > HTH,

| > Curt

| >

| > Windows Support Center

| > Practically Nerded,...

| >

| > "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

| > news:%233LDVRHDIHA.3848@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

| >>> Angel wrote:

| >>>> Hi Bill,

| >>>>

| >>>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

| >>>> news:ehE2%23MhCIHA.4880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

| >>>>> bobster wrote:

| >>>>>> Wow, this seems to have degenerated into a "who is the oldest

fogey"

| on

| >>>>>> this board.

| >>>>>>

| >>>>>> Well, here is 'ole Bobster's entry:

| >>>>>>

| >>>>>> Born 1930, married 1950, both of us still going strong, terrorizing

| the

| >>>>>> countryside in our vintage Porsche Carrera Targa. Life is sweet!

| >>>>

| >>>> Life is Great!!

| >>>>

| >>>> Like they say, "you are only as old as you feel and act"

| >>>

| >>> Well, yes and no. I think there's a bit more to it than that, if

you

| look

| >>> a the world critically and carefully, and really care about the

societal

| >>> (not technological) changes affecting so many of us today.

| >>>

| >>> From what I've seen of many of these changes in society over the past

5+

| >>> decades, I'm just not too impressed - with the major exception of race

| >>> relations, of course.

| >>>

| >>> But as for ... personal responsibility, and personal accountability,

| >>> nowadays? And perseverance (not just sound bites)? And the

| plethora of

| >>> single parent homes today, and the increasing breakup of the family

| unit?

| >>> Ummm, count me out of "how great it is these days" (sociologically

| >>> speaking).

| >>

| >> No comment? Maybe it was too depressing. Sorry.

|

October 14, 2007

Re: <PING> Bill in Colo.

Curt Christianson wrote:

> Bill,

>

> I have had reason to use the "Serenity Prayer" often more than once a day.

I don't use it nearly often enough.

> Wish I were one of your students. I used to have an electronics book that

> Northwestern Electronics Institute used back in the 70's. It was called

> "Electronic Communication" and was written by Robert Schrader. Had tube

and

> transistor theory in there. I liked the book because it dealt primarily

> with RF, which just fascinates me. I lost that book in a move, and I've

> "cried" about it ever since. It was a neat book in that it started out

> assuming you didn't know a thing about electronics, or its' components.

I'd

> give anything to find that book again, but the finances are a little too

> tight right now for that anyway.

> It has amazed me how many teachers and students too who remember that

book.

Yeah, and that definitely rings a bell. But it sure was awhile ago.

However, I bet if you looked hard enough online, you might, over time, be

able to find a used copy, somewhere. Or possibly at a really large used

bookstore that has a decent technical section. But I think it's getting

harder these days, as the computer section has (for all intents and

purposes) taken over the area formerly used by the electronics section, as I

see it. Changing times...

Bill

> --

> HTH,

> Curt

>

> Windows Support Center

> Practically Nerded,...