Slightly OT, but need help with MS Word on Win98!

[Guest Robert A. Macy]

Re: Slightly OT, but need help with MS Word on Win98!

 

On Oct 16, 3:00 am, "Jeff Richards" <JRicha...@msn.com.au> wrote:

> If that's the sort of line it is, then you should be able to put the cursor

> at the start, select Format / Borders and Shading and select None.

>

> If it might simply be formatting, use Format / Reveal Formatting to see what

> it might be. But with formatting there should be no problem in moving the

> cursor beyond the formatted area.

> --

> Jeff Richards

> MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)

 

Jeff,

 

Thank you, You FOUND IT!!!

 

Don't have / Reveal Formatting as an option ??

 

Steps to remove the display line are:

 

Put the cursor at the last character above the display line.

Select Format menu

Select Boundary and Shading

Select None, ok

 

and the line magically disappears.

 

To bring the line back, simply put dashes completely across the screen

until word wrap, upon enter the line changes from a series of dashes

to a solid line that was extremely difficult to remove, since it's not

identified anywhere. And I still don't know technically what it's

for.

 

Place the cursor at the last character before the line, go through the

above steps and VOILA! line disappears.

 

Thanks again, Jeff.

 

Robert

[Guest thanatoid]

Re: Slightly OT, but need help with MS Word on Win98!

 

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Arrrghhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Guest Jeff Richards]

Re: Slightly OT, but need help with MS Word on Win98!

 

Thanks for letting us know that you were able to sort it out.

--

Jeff Richards

MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)

"Robert A. Macy" <macy@california.com> wrote in message

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> On Oct 16, 3:00 am, "Jeff Richards" <JRicha...@msn.com.au> wrote:

>> If that's the sort of line it is, then you should be able to put the

>> cursor

>> at the start, select Format / Borders and Shading and select None.

>>

>> If it might simply be formatting, use Format / Reveal Formatting to see

>> what

>> it might be. But with formatting there should be no problem in moving

>> the

>> cursor beyond the formatted area.

>> --

>> Jeff Richards

>> MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)

>

> Jeff,

>

> Thank you, You FOUND IT!!!

>

> Don't have / Reveal Formatting as an option ??

>

> Steps to remove the display line are:

>

> Put the cursor at the last character above the display line.

> Select Format menu

> Select Boundary and Shading

> Select None, ok

>

> and the line magically disappears.

>

> To bring the line back, simply put dashes completely across the screen

> until word wrap, upon enter the line changes from a series of dashes

> to a solid line that was extremely difficult to remove, since it's not

> identified anywhere. And I still don't know technically what it's

> for.

>

> Place the cursor at the last character before the line, go through the

> above steps and VOILA! line disappears.

>

> Thanks again, Jeff.

>

> Robert

>

[Guest MEB]

Re: Slightly OT, but need help with MS Word on Win98!

 

 

"Robert A. Macy" <macy@california.com> wrote in message

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|

| Thanks for your efforts. I tried some more things. Well, the line is

| still here.

|

| If the display line is the last line in the document, I have not been

| able to get rid of it.

|

| I have resolved the 'backspace' effect. If each line contains text

| and I'm at the end of the last line of text, just above the display

| line, then hitting delete does nothing. Only if the above text lines

| are blank, does Word walk its way backwards, like backspace. OK,

| that's resolved.

|

| But, the display line stays.

|

| If I put the cursor on the display line, the cursor splits into an

| equals sign, or a pair of lines, that allow me to position the display

| line at the top or at the bottom of a text line range. But I cannot

| add any lines after the display line. Thus, can't delete it.

|

| Right now operating on the display line to remove it is my only

| option. Operating on the whole document is not an option. Although

| scooping and saving or saving in various formats would work. Just not

| an option at this time. May have to wait until document is done and

| then remove the line.

|

| It's just irritating that anything so uncontrolled can occur.

|

| Robert

|

 

I see you finally got it, formatting [think I suggested that rather early

in this discussion].

It seems you are complaining about Word having built-in autoformatting. You

can easily avoid this auto-created separator line by placing a single space

within the line, or adjust your autoformatting options, or use some other

character as your *manual* separator.

 

If your document is creating these without input from you, then you must

have saved the style at sometime as the normal blank document dot, or have

created your own named dot [document format/layout]. Hopefully, you never

saved these to the normal.dot as the default activities to be used on all

documents.

 

Now WHY it does this is also important [here's an admittedly simplistic

explanation].

 

Word tries to prepare a document for presentation/publication, its over

broad for a simple text document. It is not *idiot proof* meaning it takes

some knowledge to use it. WordPad, Notepad, EditPad or some other generic

document creator would more suit the purpose and create MUCH smaller and

portable documents. Many also allow simple formatting as well.

Word includes hooks to all the other Office applications and includes these

formatting, picture presentation data, and a number of other aspects in

every saved file [extension that supports it] {complex/compound file

aspects}.

 

Let's try to think about its usage, like for a brochure.

Many people are working on their individual segments of the document, and

the master document must include areas they can modify easily. These areas

may expand or contract based upon the input of those work groups.

Putting this *area* line in the document separates it from the other areas

*automatically*, yet allows that area to edited/modified without

contaminating the other group's input for their segment. Without this line,

one would need to manually adjust the document or *cut and paste* or

*insert* constantly, and the master document would likely become a mess.

 

How about a layout for column mode, say for a school newspaper.

The paper has a basic column layout, but each day it changes, as well as

the content. Now they could create a new format every day, or they can

create a document layout that is easily modified by using these area lines

and other formatting.

So they setup the *head* with little changeable boxes; the basic column

format [say five columns]; picture areas [floating blank boxes]; and use the

separator lines within the columns so they can paste whatever news article

they wish into the various columns, and its automatically adjusted to the

content needs.

 

--

MEB

http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

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| On Oct 16, 3:20 am, "MEB" <meb@not h...@hotmail.com> wrote:

| > Well, I must apologize, I duplicated your issue, but ONLY if I deleted

the

| > automatic drop to the new line after autoformat.

| >

| > Sorry. You did indicate there was nothing below the line.

| >

| > What I find weird is that the original failure [text, line with deleted

| > lower line, unable to delete line] was changed to rtf [unable to

delete],

| > saved and closed, open rft [unable to delete], saved as txt [gone

| > obviously], close, re-open original doc, and it deleted. Go back to the

rtf,

| > and it deleted.

| >

| > Second test with ONLY a paragraph marker and the line: same thing.

First

| > unable to delete, mess around with other saved formats of the same file,

| > close Word, re-open the doc, it then deleted from the original doc, and

from

| > the original failure.

| >

| > That makes little sense unless something is cleared from memory/cache

or

| > something. So I am out of ideas for your document . . .

| >

| > Can you hover over the line, wait for the two *fingers* and move/drag

it

| > lower, I could ... ?

| >

| > --

| > MEBhttp://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

| > ________