Guest John Mc Cabe Posted October 10, 2007 Posted October 10, 2007 Hi All, here is one that has baffled me for weeks.... We have a Windows 2003 network running AD 2 DCs both running DNS and WINS and one running DHCP There is over 70 clients all windows xp service pack2 a vast mix of dell and hp hardware with 3com and broadcom network cards now.... only about 12 clients on the network expierence this problem... when we set them to dhcp, they work for about 10minutes all ok then the machines start to grind to a halt and i mean its almost impossible to do anything to them. we set them to static ip and they all work excellent. very strange... what i have done so far ... 1. move the dhcp server from one node to another -- didnt resolve the issue 2. updated the driver and firmware of each nic -- didnt resolve the issue 3. apply latest updates to windows xp -- didnt resolve the issue 4. reinstall the nic -- didnt resolve the issue 5. set the port speed on the switch to 100Mb/s half duplex -- didnt resolve the issue 6. change the port the client was plugged in on -- didnt resolve the issue 7. upgrade the firmware on the switches -- didnt resolve the issue 8. installed network monitor software -- didnt find the problem can anybody suggest what else to try or where to look thanks in advance john
Guest Robert L \(MS-MVP\) Posted October 10, 2007 Posted October 10, 2007 Re: Windows 2003 Network with Odd DHCP Issue Posting the result of ipconfig /all may help. -- Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com "John Mc Cabe" <masterbullfrog@gmail.com> wrote in message news:895D366F-2355-4E44-80E4-DEAD106D181C@microsoft.com... > Hi All, > > here is one that has baffled me for weeks.... > > We have a Windows 2003 network running AD > 2 DCs both running DNS and WINS and one running DHCP > > There is over 70 clients all windows xp service pack2 a vast mix of dell > and hp hardware with 3com and broadcom network cards > > now.... > > only about 12 clients on the network expierence this problem... > when we set them to dhcp, they work for about 10minutes all ok then the > machines start to grind to a halt and i mean its almost impossible to do > anything to them. we set them to static ip and they all work excellent. > very strange... > what i have done so far ... > > 1. move the dhcp server from one node to another -- didnt resolve the > issue > 2. updated the driver and firmware of each nic -- didnt resolve the issue > 3. apply latest updates to windows xp -- didnt resolve the issue > 4. reinstall the nic -- didnt resolve the issue > 5. set the port speed on the switch to 100Mb/s half duplex -- didnt > resolve the issue > 6. change the port the client was plugged in on -- didnt resolve the issue > 7. upgrade the firmware on the switches -- didnt resolve the issue > 8. installed network monitor software -- didnt find the problem > > can anybody suggest what else to try or where to look > > thanks in advance > > john >
Guest Phill Posted October 10, 2007 Posted October 10, 2007 Re: Windows 2003 Network with Odd DHCP Issue Ipconfig /all when connected by DHCP and by Static "Robert L (MS-MVP)" <noreply@chicagotech.net> wrote in message news:uhTSJt0CIHA.4196@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > Posting the result of ipconfig /all may help. > > -- > Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE > Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on > http://www.ChicagoTech.net > How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on > http://www.HowToNetworking.com > > > "John Mc Cabe" <masterbullfrog@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:895D366F-2355-4E44-80E4-DEAD106D181C@microsoft.com... >> Hi All, >> >> here is one that has baffled me for weeks.... >> >> We have a Windows 2003 network running AD >> 2 DCs both running DNS and WINS and one running DHCP >> >> There is over 70 clients all windows xp service pack2 a vast mix of dell >> and hp hardware with 3com and broadcom network cards >> >> now.... >> >> only about 12 clients on the network expierence this problem... >> when we set them to dhcp, they work for about 10minutes all ok then the >> machines start to grind to a halt and i mean its almost impossible to do >> anything to them. we set them to static ip and they all work excellent. >> very strange... >> what i have done so far ... >> >> 1. move the dhcp server from one node to another -- didnt resolve the >> issue >> 2. updated the driver and firmware of each nic -- didnt resolve the issue >> 3. apply latest updates to windows xp -- didnt resolve the issue >> 4. reinstall the nic -- didnt resolve the issue >> 5. set the port speed on the switch to 100Mb/s half duplex -- didnt >> resolve the issue >> 6. change the port the client was plugged in on -- didnt resolve the >> issue >> 7. upgrade the firmware on the switches -- didnt resolve the issue >> 8. installed network monitor software -- didnt find the problem >> >> can anybody suggest what else to try or where to look >> >> thanks in advance >> >> john >> > >
Guest John Mc Cabe Posted October 11, 2007 Posted October 11, 2007 Re: Windows 2003 Network with Odd DHCP Issue DHCG SETTINGS U:\>ipconfig /all Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : CSD-HP5700 Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : FHCG.local Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : FHCG.local fhcg.local Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : fhcg.local Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit Ethernet Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1B-78-AF-D5-5E Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.159 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254 DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 192.168.1.2 Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2 Secondary WINS Server . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 11 October 2007 13:31:19 Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 16 October 2007 13:31:19 U:\> U:\>IPCONFIG /ALL Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : CSD-HP5700 Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : FHCG.local Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : FHCG.local Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit Ethernet Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1B-78-AF-D5-5E Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.67 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 192.168.1.2 Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2 Secondary WINS Server . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 "Phill" <ps22@sedd.gotadsl.co.uk> wrote in message news:ipCdnYIeud-uj5DanZ2dnUVZ8vSdnZ2d@pipex.net... > Ipconfig /all when connected by DHCP and by Static > > "Robert L (MS-MVP)" <noreply@chicagotech.net> wrote in message > news:uhTSJt0CIHA.4196@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> Posting the result of ipconfig /all may help. >> >> -- >> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE >> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on >> http://www.ChicagoTech.net >> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on >> http://www.HowToNetworking.com >> >> >> "John Mc Cabe" <masterbullfrog@gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:895D366F-2355-4E44-80E4-DEAD106D181C@microsoft.com... >>> Hi All, >>> >>> here is one that has baffled me for weeks.... >>> >>> We have a Windows 2003 network running AD >>> 2 DCs both running DNS and WINS and one running DHCP >>> >>> There is over 70 clients all windows xp service pack2 a vast mix of dell >>> and hp hardware with 3com and broadcom network cards >>> >>> now.... >>> >>> only about 12 clients on the network expierence this problem... >>> when we set them to dhcp, they work for about 10minutes all ok then the >>> machines start to grind to a halt and i mean its almost impossible to do >>> anything to them. we set them to static ip and they all work excellent. >>> very strange... >>> what i have done so far ... >>> >>> 1. move the dhcp server from one node to another -- didnt resolve the >>> issue >>> 2. updated the driver and firmware of each nic -- didnt resolve the >>> issue >>> 3. apply latest updates to windows xp -- didnt resolve the issue >>> 4. reinstall the nic -- didnt resolve the issue >>> 5. set the port speed on the switch to 100Mb/s half duplex -- didnt >>> resolve the issue >>> 6. change the port the client was plugged in on -- didnt resolve the >>> issue >>> 7. upgrade the firmware on the switches -- didnt resolve the issue >>> 8. installed network monitor software -- didnt find the problem >>> >>> can anybody suggest what else to try or where to look >>> >>> thanks in advance >>> >>> john >>> >> >> > >
Guest Robert L \(MS-MVP\) Posted October 11, 2007 Posted October 11, 2007 Re: Windows 2003 Network with Odd DHCP Issue What I want to see is the result of server ipconfig /all. Also any errors in the event viewer? -- Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com "John Mc Cabe" <masterbullfrog@gmail.com> wrote in message news:350649A9-0FF9-4AB6-84F5-26BDABD728F3@microsoft.com... > DHCG SETTINGS > > > > U:\>ipconfig /all > > Windows IP Configuration > > Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : CSD-HP5700 > Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : FHCG.local > Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No > DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : FHCG.local > fhcg.local > > Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2: > > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : fhcg.local > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit > Ethernet > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1B-78-AF-D5-5E > Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes > IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.159 > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254 > DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2 > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 > 192.168.1.2 > Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2 > Secondary WINS Server . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 > Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 11 October 2007 13:31:19 > Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 16 October 2007 13:31:19 > > U:\> > > U:\>IPCONFIG /ALL > > Windows IP Configuration > > Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : CSD-HP5700 > Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : FHCG.local > Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No > DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : FHCG.local > > Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2: > > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit > Ethernet > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1B-78-AF-D5-5E > Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No > IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.67 > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254 > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 > 192.168.1.2 > Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2 > Secondary WINS Server . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 > > "Phill" <ps22@sedd.gotadsl.co.uk> wrote in message > news:ipCdnYIeud-uj5DanZ2dnUVZ8vSdnZ2d@pipex.net... >> Ipconfig /all when connected by DHCP and by Static >> >> "Robert L (MS-MVP)" <noreply@chicagotech.net> wrote in message >> news:uhTSJt0CIHA.4196@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>> Posting the result of ipconfig /all may help. >>> >>> -- >>> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE >>> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on >>> http://www.ChicagoTech.net >>> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on >>> http://www.HowToNetworking.com >>> >>> >>> "John Mc Cabe" <masterbullfrog@gmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:895D366F-2355-4E44-80E4-DEAD106D181C@microsoft.com... >>>> Hi All, >>>> >>>> here is one that has baffled me for weeks.... >>>> >>>> We have a Windows 2003 network running AD >>>> 2 DCs both running DNS and WINS and one running DHCP >>>> >>>> There is over 70 clients all windows xp service pack2 a vast mix of >>>> dell and hp hardware with 3com and broadcom network cards >>>> >>>> now.... >>>> >>>> only about 12 clients on the network expierence this problem... >>>> when we set them to dhcp, they work for about 10minutes all ok then the >>>> machines start to grind to a halt and i mean its almost impossible to >>>> do anything to them. we set them to static ip and they all work >>>> excellent. >>>> very strange... >>>> what i have done so far ... >>>> >>>> 1. move the dhcp server from one node to another -- didnt resolve the >>>> issue >>>> 2. updated the driver and firmware of each nic -- didnt resolve the >>>> issue >>>> 3. apply latest updates to windows xp -- didnt resolve the issue >>>> 4. reinstall the nic -- didnt resolve the issue >>>> 5. set the port speed on the switch to 100Mb/s half duplex -- didnt >>>> resolve the issue >>>> 6. change the port the client was plugged in on -- didnt resolve the >>>> issue >>>> 7. upgrade the firmware on the switches -- didnt resolve the issue >>>> 8. installed network monitor software -- didnt find the problem >>>> >>>> can anybody suggest what else to try or where to look >>>> >>>> thanks in advance >>>> >>>> john >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >
Guest John Mc Cabe Posted October 15, 2007 Posted October 15, 2007 Re: Windows 2003 Network with Odd DHCP Issue There are no errors in the client or server event viewer "Robert L (MS-MVP)" <noreply@chicagotech.net> wrote in message news:O6Re%23oBDIHA.4196@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > What I want to see is the result of server ipconfig /all. Also any errors > in the event viewer? > > -- > Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE > Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on > http://www.ChicagoTech.net > How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on > http://www.HowToNetworking.com > > > "John Mc Cabe" <masterbullfrog@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:350649A9-0FF9-4AB6-84F5-26BDABD728F3@microsoft.com... >> DHCG SETTINGS >> >> >> >> U:\>ipconfig /all >> >> Windows IP Configuration >> >> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : CSD-HP5700 >> Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : FHCG.local >> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid >> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No >> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No >> DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : FHCG.local >> fhcg.local >> >> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2: >> >> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : fhcg.local >> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit >> Ethernet >> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1B-78-AF-D5-5E >> Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes >> Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes >> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.159 >> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 >> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254 >> DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2 >> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 >> 192.168.1.2 >> Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2 >> Secondary WINS Server . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 >> Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 11 October 2007 13:31:19 >> Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 16 October 2007 13:31:19 >> >> U:\> >> >> U:\>IPCONFIG /ALL >> >> Windows IP Configuration >> >> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : CSD-HP5700 >> Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : FHCG.local >> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid >> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No >> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No >> DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : FHCG.local >> >> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2: >> >> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : >> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit >> Ethernet >> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1B-78-AF-D5-5E >> Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No >> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.67 >> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 >> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254 >> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 >> 192.168.1.2 >> Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2 >> Secondary WINS Server . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 >> >> "Phill" <ps22@sedd.gotadsl.co.uk> wrote in message >> news:ipCdnYIeud-uj5DanZ2dnUVZ8vSdnZ2d@pipex.net... >>> Ipconfig /all when connected by DHCP and by Static >>> >>> "Robert L (MS-MVP)" <noreply@chicagotech.net> wrote in message >>> news:uhTSJt0CIHA.4196@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>> Posting the result of ipconfig /all may help. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE >>>> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on >>>> http://www.ChicagoTech.net >>>> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on >>>> http://www.HowToNetworking.com >>>> >>>> >>>> "John Mc Cabe" <masterbullfrog@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>> news:895D366F-2355-4E44-80E4-DEAD106D181C@microsoft.com... >>>>> Hi All, >>>>> >>>>> here is one that has baffled me for weeks.... >>>>> >>>>> We have a Windows 2003 network running AD >>>>> 2 DCs both running DNS and WINS and one running DHCP >>>>> >>>>> There is over 70 clients all windows xp service pack2 a vast mix of >>>>> dell and hp hardware with 3com and broadcom network cards >>>>> >>>>> now.... >>>>> >>>>> only about 12 clients on the network expierence this problem... >>>>> when we set them to dhcp, they work for about 10minutes all ok then >>>>> the machines start to grind to a halt and i mean its almost impossible >>>>> to do anything to them. we set them to static ip and they all work >>>>> excellent. >>>>> very strange... >>>>> what i have done so far ... >>>>> >>>>> 1. move the dhcp server from one node to another -- didnt resolve the >>>>> issue >>>>> 2. updated the driver and firmware of each nic -- didnt resolve the >>>>> issue >>>>> 3. apply latest updates to windows xp -- didnt resolve the issue >>>>> 4. reinstall the nic -- didnt resolve the issue >>>>> 5. set the port speed on the switch to 100Mb/s half duplex -- didnt >>>>> resolve the issue >>>>> 6. change the port the client was plugged in on -- didnt resolve the >>>>> issue >>>>> 7. upgrade the firmware on the switches -- didnt resolve the issue >>>>> 8. installed network monitor software -- didnt find the problem >>>>> >>>>> can anybody suggest what else to try or where to look >>>>> >>>>> thanks in advance >>>>> >>>>> john >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> > >
Guest John OReilly Posted October 17, 2007 Posted October 17, 2007 RE: Windows 2003 Network with Odd DHCP Issue Hi John. Just a thought, and i know you said that their are many different pcs, but have you tried installing a new network card into even 1 pc? My thoughts on this are maybe something somwhere on the network is binding its self to the mac address on the nic somewhere! Have you checked restore points on xp,maybe their was some update done? Have you tried connecting them to their own network, as in, maybe put them on a separate switch and issue dhcp from a spare device you would have and see if they hang then. Give them a false gateway so they dont get access to the inet. If you set them to a static which would be the same as the dhcp address what happens? Sure as you know your self incompetent people say ah give it a static thatll fix it :) hee hee Have you tried doing a repair on the winsock and tcp stack. Try setting them to dhcp and giving them a false gateway. Set the dns to a public one while on dhcp. Do they hang while opening any apps which may pull info from server. Or do you just have to sit back and do nothing and see it happen? Chat later john John "John Mc Cabe" wrote: > Hi All, > > here is one that has baffled me for weeks.... > > We have a Windows 2003 network running AD > 2 DCs both running DNS and WINS and one running DHCP > > There is over 70 clients all windows xp service pack2 a vast mix of dell and > hp hardware with 3com and broadcom network cards > > now.... > > only about 12 clients on the network expierence this problem... > when we set them to dhcp, they work for about 10minutes all ok then the > machines start to grind to a halt and i mean its almost impossible to do > anything to them. we set them to static ip and they all work excellent. > very strange... > what i have done so far ... > > 1. move the dhcp server from one node to another -- didnt resolve the issue > 2. updated the driver and firmware of each nic -- didnt resolve the issue > 3. apply latest updates to windows xp -- didnt resolve the issue > 4. reinstall the nic -- didnt resolve the issue > 5. set the port speed on the switch to 100Mb/s half duplex -- didnt resolve > the issue > 6. change the port the client was plugged in on -- didnt resolve the issue > 7. upgrade the firmware on the switches -- didnt resolve the issue > 8. installed network monitor software -- didnt find the problem > > can anybody suggest what else to try or where to look > > thanks in advance > > john >
Guest John OReilly Posted October 17, 2007 Posted October 17, 2007 RE: Windows 2003 Network with Odd DHCP Issue Just another thing john, Are their any other protocols being used on the nic? Would it be possible for you to move the dhcp server to another box easily enough? When did this exatly happen? Because i know, some update was released around the 10/11th this month, and i had really weird issues on my own pc and i got called out to a site for connectivity issues. I forgot to say that to you yesterday. Maybe try a system restore. Might be worth a long shot before pulling it apart anymore. Have you checked the lights on the switch. Are they going like 90 when its on DHCP. how many bites are being sent and recieved. Are they quiet high? maybe a possible trojan? How long does it take for them to be assigned an ip address via dhcp. Longer than the others or the same? Tried any bios updates? chipset updates etc? how about safemode with networking? As per my above post try repairing the winsock and tcp stack. http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/811259 http://www.soton.ac.uk/iss/computing/net/halls/winsock.html Hope all this helps man Chat Later John
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