Guest balexandre Posted October 12, 2007 Posted October 12, 2007 Hi to all, I have a huge problem here in the company network Pentium4/512Mb - Windows 2000 Server SP4, with Exchange 2000 no more updates via Windows Update, in other words, everything is updated it's a random problem in time and the users with Windows XP (I'm the only one using Windows Vista) get no connection whatsoever to the server. they cant access to the shared folders they cant receive any new emails they cant access to the printers (all printers are shared in the server) etc... resolution attempt: with the "deny" access to the server: - I can ping the server with no delays - I did the release followed by renew and the DHCP server from Windows gives me back the new addresses - I cant in any what to access //fileserver to know: we have 3 users using Windows XP we have 1 user using Windows Vista in the third user in W.XP it hangs for 1 minute but after she can access the shared folders with no problems, this is a new USER in the active Directory created in September this year, the other 2 were created more than 3 years ago on the time of the "hang/no connection" in the Taks manager there is no high piks in the CPU usage thoughts: .. can it maybe there a script that runs "under cover" but only in the old users? if yes, how can I discover such diamond? .. how can I have access to receive the IP's using ipconfig /release ipconfig /renew but I can access to any printer or folder in the server, not even //fileserver .. why this only happens at late afternoon? (arround 16.30 - 17.30) - Backup is off and no scripts runs on this time or earlier. I apreciate any idea or thought that you might have so I can investigate, cause... I already passed my "know how" :-( -- Bruno Alexandre Strøby, Danmark "a Portuguese in Denmark"
Guest Anthony Posted October 12, 2007 Posted October 12, 2007 Re: Big (please read HUGE) problem in the network Bruno, 1) What errors do you have in the client event log 2) Turn on full Auditing for the server, and what errors do you have in the server event log? 3) What is the result of ipconfig/all on the server? 4) What is the result of ipconfig/all on the client? 5) What has changed recently? 6) What happens if the user restarts the PC when the problem occurs? 7) What happens if you restart the server when the problem occurs? Anthony, http://www.airdesk.com "balexandre" <bruno.in.dk@gmail.com> wrote in message news:24B43FAA-5C10-45AC-854A-DF26BB580AB7@microsoft.com... > Hi to all, > > I have a huge problem here in the company network > > Pentium4/512Mb - Windows 2000 Server SP4, with Exchange 2000 > no more updates via Windows Update, in other words, everything is updated > > it's a random problem in time and the users with Windows XP (I'm the only > one using Windows Vista) get no connection whatsoever to the server. > > they cant access to the shared folders > they cant receive any new emails > they cant access to the printers (all printers are shared in the server) > etc... > > resolution attempt: > with the "deny" access to the server: > - I can ping the server with no delays > - I did the release followed by renew and the DHCP server from Windows > gives me back the new addresses > - I cant in any what to access //fileserver > > to know: > we have 3 users using Windows XP > we have 1 user using Windows Vista > > in the third user in W.XP it hangs for 1 minute but after she can access > the shared folders with no problems, this is a new USER in the active > Directory created in September this year, the other 2 were created more > than 3 years ago > > on the time of the "hang/no connection" in the Taks manager there is no > high piks in the CPU usage > > thoughts: > . can it maybe there a script that runs "under cover" but only in the old > users? if yes, how can I discover such diamond? > . how can I have access to receive the IP's using ipconfig /release > ipconfig /renew but I can access to any printer or folder in the server, > not even //fileserver > . why this only happens at late afternoon? (arround 16.30 - 17.30) - > Backup is off and no scripts runs on this time or earlier. > > I apreciate any idea or thought that you might have so I can investigate, > cause... I already passed my "know how" :-( > > -- > Bruno Alexandre > Strøby, Danmark > > "a Portuguese in Denmark" > > >
Guest balexandre Posted October 12, 2007 Posted October 12, 2007 Re: Big (please read HUGE) problem in the network > 1) What errors do you have in the client event log 2) Turn on full > Auditing for the server, and what errors do you have in the server event > log? I deleted all the events and I'm waiting to the problem "pop up" again so I can see the Event Viewer on the server and on the client. > 3) What is the result of ipconfig/all on the server? C:\>ipconfig /all Windows 2000 IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : fileserver Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . : domain1.dom Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : domain1.dom Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel® PRO/1000 MT Network Connection Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-C0-9F-25-ED-0F DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.10 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.10 Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.10 > 4) What is the result of ipconfig/all on the client? C:\>ipconfig /all Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : intercell8 Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : domain1.dom Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : domain1.dom Intercell Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Intercell Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Eth ernet NIC Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0B-5D-96-98-00 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.37 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1 DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.10 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 194.239.134.83 193.162.153.164 192.168.2.10 Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 12. oktober 2007 09:14:00 Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 20. oktober 2007 09:14:00 Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection: Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel® PRO/Wireless 2915ABG Network Connection Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-13-CE-9A-BE-C2 > 5) What has changed recently? since the problems started... nothing, just updates > 6) What happens if the user restarts the PC when the problem occurs? everything will be fine and accessible until the next "lost-connection" > 7) What happens if you restart the server when the problem occurs? problem remains -- Bruno Alexandre Strøby, Danmark "a Portuguese in Denmark"
Guest Austin Osuide Posted October 12, 2007 Posted October 12, 2007 Re: Big (please read HUGE) problem in the network Hi Anthony, Just looking at your clints DNS settings and I see 2 entries for DNS servers that are not on your network (the tele.dk DNS servers). My suggestion is: for your clients, only confgure DNS for the internal DNS server ie 192.168.2.10. On the DC which acts as a DNS server, configure Forwarders for all other DNS domains and use the the IP adds for your ISPs DNS server. I think this Might resolve some of the issues ou are seeing. "balexandre" wrote: > > 1) What errors do you have in the client event log 2) Turn on full > > Auditing for the server, and what errors do you have in the server event > > log? > > I deleted all the events and I'm waiting to the problem "pop up" again so I > can see the Event Viewer on the server and on the client. > > > 3) What is the result of ipconfig/all on the server? > C:\>ipconfig /all > > Windows 2000 IP Configuration > > Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : fileserver > Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . : domain1.dom > Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No > DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : domain1.dom > > Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: > > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel® PRO/1000 MT Network > Connection > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-C0-9F-25-ED-0F > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No > IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.10 > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1 > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.10 > Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.10 > > > > 4) What is the result of ipconfig/all on the client? > C:\>ipconfig /all > > Windows IP Configuration > > Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : intercell8 > Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : domain1.dom > Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No > DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : domain1.dom > Intercell > > Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: > > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Intercell > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast > Eth > ernet NIC > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0B-5D-96-98-00 > Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes > IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.37 > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1 > DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.10 > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 194.239.134.83 > 193.162.153.164 > 192.168.2.10 > Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 12. oktober 2007 09:14:00 > Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 20. oktober 2007 09:14:00 > > Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection: > > Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel® PRO/Wireless 2915ABG > Network Connection > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-13-CE-9A-BE-C2 > > > 5) What has changed recently? > since the problems started... nothing, just updates > > > 6) What happens if the user restarts the PC when the problem occurs? > everything will be fine and accessible until the next "lost-connection" > > > 7) What happens if you restart the server when the problem occurs? > problem remains > > -- > Bruno Alexandre > Strøby, Danmark > > "a Portuguese in Denmark" > > >
Guest Anthony Posted October 12, 2007 Posted October 12, 2007 Re: Big (please read HUGE) problem in the network Hi Bruno, You have the wrong Preferred and Alternate DNS servers on your clients. This should be set to your internal DNS server only, 192.168.2.10. You should make this change in the DHCP service on the server. Then in the DNS service on the server, set the Forwarder to your ISP's DNS (which I assume are the others). Just a minor point, but you seem to be running a WINS service but not using it on the clients. You can either turn the service off, or add it to the client settings in DHCP. Hope that solves it, Anthony, http://www.airdesk.com .. "balexandre" <bruno.in.dk@gmail.com> wrote in message news:074BEB3C-65D1-4B72-A768-0C7DEAA14FC0@microsoft.com... >> 1) What errors do you have in the client event log 2) Turn on full >> Auditing for the server, and what errors do you have in the server event >> log? > > I deleted all the events and I'm waiting to the problem "pop up" again so > I can see the Event Viewer on the server and on the client. > >> 3) What is the result of ipconfig/all on the server? > C:\>ipconfig /all > > Windows 2000 IP Configuration > > Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : fileserver > Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . : domain1.dom > Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No > DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : domain1.dom > > Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: > > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel® PRO/1000 MT Network > Connection > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-C0-9F-25-ED-0F > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No > IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.10 > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1 > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.10 > Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.10 > > >> 4) What is the result of ipconfig/all on the client? > C:\>ipconfig /all > > Windows IP Configuration > > Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : intercell8 > Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : domain1.dom > Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No > DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : domain1.dom > Intercell > > Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: > > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Intercell > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x Family > Fast Eth > ernet NIC > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0B-5D-96-98-00 > Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes > IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.37 > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1 > DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.10 > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 194.239.134.83 > 193.162.153.164 > 192.168.2.10 > Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 12. oktober 2007 09:14:00 > Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 20. oktober 2007 09:14:00 > > Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection: > > Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel® PRO/Wireless 2915ABG > Network Connection > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-13-CE-9A-BE-C2 > >> 5) What has changed recently? > since the problems started... nothing, just updates > >> 6) What happens if the user restarts the PC when the problem occurs? > everything will be fine and accessible until the next "lost-connection" > >> 7) What happens if you restart the server when the problem occurs? > problem remains > > -- > Bruno Alexandre > Strøby, Danmark > > "a Portuguese in Denmark" > >
Guest Anthony Posted October 12, 2007 Posted October 12, 2007 Re: Big (please read HUGE) problem in the network Or Bruno "Austin Osuide" <AustinOsuide@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:0EE57494-9822-49E9-B71B-5F8713FC76B6@microsoft.com... > Hi Anthony, > Just looking at your clints DNS settings and I see 2 entries for DNS > servers > that are not on your network (the tele.dk DNS servers). > My suggestion is: for your clients, only confgure DNS for the internal DNS > server ie 192.168.2.10. > On the DC which acts as a DNS server, configure Forwarders for all other > DNS > domains and use the the IP adds for your ISPs DNS server. > I think this Might resolve some of the issues ou are seeing. > > "balexandre" wrote: > >> > 1) What errors do you have in the client event log 2) Turn on full >> > Auditing for the server, and what errors do you have in the server >> > event >> > log? >> >> I deleted all the events and I'm waiting to the problem "pop up" again so >> I >> can see the Event Viewer on the server and on the client. >> >> > 3) What is the result of ipconfig/all on the server? >> C:\>ipconfig /all >> >> Windows 2000 IP Configuration >> >> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : fileserver >> Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . : domain1.dom >> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid >> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No >> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No >> DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : domain1.dom >> >> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: >> >> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : >> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel® PRO/1000 MT Network >> Connection >> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-C0-9F-25-ED-0F >> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No >> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.10 >> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 >> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1 >> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.10 >> Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.10 >> >> >> > 4) What is the result of ipconfig/all on the client? >> C:\>ipconfig /all >> >> Windows IP Configuration >> >> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : intercell8 >> Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : domain1.dom >> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown >> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No >> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No >> DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : domain1.dom >> Intercell >> >> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: >> >> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Intercell >> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x Family >> Fast >> Eth >> ernet NIC >> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0B-5D-96-98-00 >> Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes >> Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes >> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.37 >> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 >> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1 >> DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.10 >> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 194.239.134.83 >> 193.162.153.164 >> 192.168.2.10 >> Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 12. oktober 2007 09:14:00 >> Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 20. oktober 2007 09:14:00 >> >> Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection: >> >> Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected >> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel® PRO/Wireless 2915ABG >> Network Connection >> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-13-CE-9A-BE-C2 >> >> > 5) What has changed recently? >> since the problems started... nothing, just updates >> >> > 6) What happens if the user restarts the PC when the problem occurs? >> everything will be fine and accessible until the next "lost-connection" >> >> > 7) What happens if you restart the server when the problem occurs? >> problem remains >> >> -- >> Bruno Alexandre >> Strøby, Danmark >> >> "a Portuguese in Denmark" >> >> >>
Guest balexandre Posted October 12, 2007 Posted October 12, 2007 Re: Big (please read HUGE) problem in the network I had problems once about that they simple did not work... I had to flushdns all the time, since I changed the dns to the outside servers in DHCP instead the server DNS, in other words, turn the DNS server off, everything worked fine... can that be the problem... cause, I dont see how, the server does not run as a "proxy" so, the internet connection is avaiable to all independent if the server is on or not. -- Bruno Alexandre Strøby, Danmark "a Portuguese in Denmark" "Anthony" <anthony.spam@spammedout.com> wrote in message news:emPF8%23LDIHA.2324@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > Hi Bruno, > You have the wrong Preferred and Alternate DNS servers on your clients. > This should be set to your internal DNS server only, 192.168.2.10. You > should make this change in the DHCP service on the server. > Then in the DNS service on the server, set the Forwarder to your ISP's DNS > (which I assume are the others). > Just a minor point, but you seem to be running a WINS service but not > using it on the clients. You can either turn the service off, or add it to > the client settings in DHCP. > Hope that solves it, > Anthony, http://www.airdesk.com > > > . > "balexandre" <bruno.in.dk@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:074BEB3C-65D1-4B72-A768-0C7DEAA14FC0@microsoft.com... >>> 1) What errors do you have in the client event log 2) Turn on full >>> Auditing for the server, and what errors do you have in the server event >>> log? >> >> I deleted all the events and I'm waiting to the problem "pop up" again so >> I can see the Event Viewer on the server and on the client. >> >>> 3) What is the result of ipconfig/all on the server? >> C:\>ipconfig /all >> >> Windows 2000 IP Configuration >> >> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : fileserver >> Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . : domain1.dom >> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid >> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No >> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No >> DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : domain1.dom >> >> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: >> >> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : >> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel® PRO/1000 MT Network >> Connection >> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-C0-9F-25-ED-0F >> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No >> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.10 >> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 >> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1 >> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.10 >> Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.10 >> >> >>> 4) What is the result of ipconfig/all on the client? >> C:\>ipconfig /all >> >> Windows IP Configuration >> >> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : intercell8 >> Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : domain1.dom >> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown >> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No >> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No >> DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : domain1.dom >> Intercell >> >> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: >> >> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Intercell >> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x Family >> Fast Eth >> ernet NIC >> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0B-5D-96-98-00 >> Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes >> Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes >> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.37 >> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 >> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1 >> DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.10 >> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 194.239.134.83 >> 193.162.153.164 >> 192.168.2.10 >> Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 12. oktober 2007 09:14:00 >> Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 20. oktober 2007 09:14:00 >> >> Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection: >> >> Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected >> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel® PRO/Wireless 2915ABG >> Network Connection >> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-13-CE-9A-BE-C2 >> >>> 5) What has changed recently? >> since the problems started... nothing, just updates >> >>> 6) What happens if the user restarts the PC when the problem occurs? >> everything will be fine and accessible until the next "lost-connection" >> >>> 7) What happens if you restart the server when the problem occurs? >> problem remains >> >> -- >> Bruno Alexandre >> Strøby, Danmark >> >> "a Portuguese in Denmark" >> >> > >
Guest Anthony Posted October 12, 2007 Posted October 12, 2007 Re: Big (please read HUGE) problem in the network Bruno, If you find the ISP's DNS servers to be unreliable, you can: - contact them to see if you have the right DNS servers - change to using no Forwarder but instead use the automatic built-in root hints. You can not mix different DNS servers in the same client config like that. If you still have problems after that, we can see what else may be wrong. Anthony, http://www.airdesk.com "balexandre" <bruno.in.dk@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1459F60C-E2DC-4131-AF0C-6F1C10616069@microsoft.com... >I had problems once about that > > they simple did not work... I had to flushdns all the time, since I > changed the dns to the outside servers in DHCP instead the server DNS, in > other words, turn the DNS server off, everything worked fine... > > can that be the problem... cause, I dont see how, > the server does not run as a "proxy" so, the internet connection is > avaiable to all independent if the server is on or not. > > -- > Bruno Alexandre > Strøby, Danmark > > "a Portuguese in Denmark" > > > "Anthony" <anthony.spam@spammedout.com> wrote in message > news:emPF8%23LDIHA.2324@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> Hi Bruno, >> You have the wrong Preferred and Alternate DNS servers on your clients. >> This should be set to your internal DNS server only, 192.168.2.10. You >> should make this change in the DHCP service on the server. >> Then in the DNS service on the server, set the Forwarder to your ISP's >> DNS (which I assume are the others). >> Just a minor point, but you seem to be running a WINS service but not >> using it on the clients. You can either turn the service off, or add it >> to the client settings in DHCP. >> Hope that solves it, >> Anthony, http://www.airdesk.com >> >> >> . >> "balexandre" <bruno.in.dk@gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:074BEB3C-65D1-4B72-A768-0C7DEAA14FC0@microsoft.com... >>>> 1) What errors do you have in the client event log 2) Turn on full >>>> Auditing for the server, and what errors do you have in the server >>>> event log? >>> >>> I deleted all the events and I'm waiting to the problem "pop up" again >>> so I can see the Event Viewer on the server and on the client. >>> >>>> 3) What is the result of ipconfig/all on the server? >>> C:\>ipconfig /all >>> >>> Windows 2000 IP Configuration >>> >>> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : fileserver >>> Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . : domain1.dom >>> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid >>> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No >>> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No >>> DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : domain1.dom >>> >>> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: >>> >>> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : >>> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel® PRO/1000 MT Network >>> Connection >>> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-C0-9F-25-ED-0F >>> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No >>> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.10 >>> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 >>> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1 >>> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.10 >>> Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.10 >>> >>> >>>> 4) What is the result of ipconfig/all on the client? >>> C:\>ipconfig /all >>> >>> Windows IP Configuration >>> >>> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : intercell8 >>> Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : domain1.dom >>> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown >>> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No >>> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No >>> DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : domain1.dom >>> Intercell >>> >>> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: >>> >>> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Intercell >>> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x Family >>> Fast Eth >>> ernet NIC >>> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0B-5D-96-98-00 >>> Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes >>> Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes >>> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.37 >>> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 >>> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1 >>> DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.10 >>> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 194.239.134.83 >>> 193.162.153.164 >>> 192.168.2.10 >>> Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 12. oktober 2007 09:14:00 >>> Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 20. oktober 2007 09:14:00 >>> >>> Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection: >>> >>> Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected >>> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel® PRO/Wireless 2915ABG >>> Network Connection >>> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-13-CE-9A-BE-C2 >>> >>>> 5) What has changed recently? >>> since the problems started... nothing, just updates >>> >>>> 6) What happens if the user restarts the PC when the problem occurs? >>> everything will be fine and accessible until the next "lost-connection" >>> >>>> 7) What happens if you restart the server when the problem occurs? >>> problem remains >>> >>> -- >>> Bruno Alexandre >>> Strøby, Danmark >>> >>> "a Portuguese in Denmark" >>> >>> >> >> >
Guest balexandre Posted October 12, 2007 Posted October 12, 2007 Re: Big (please read HUGE) problem in the network Thanks for the help, I put the DNS back like it was, so now I have on the client side: C:\>ipconfig /all Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : intercell8 Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : domain1.dom Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : domain1.dom Intercell Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Intercell Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Ethernet NIC Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0B-5D-96-98-00 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.37 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1 DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.10 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.10 Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 12. oktober 2007 14:01:15 Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 20. oktober 2007 14:01:15 Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection: Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel® PRO/Wireless 2915ABG Network Connection Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-13-CE-9A-BE-C2 I'm waiting for the problem apear again... -- Bruno Alexandre Strøby, Danmark "a Portuguese in Denmark" "Anthony" <anthony.spam@spammedout.com> wrote in message news:OkySBRMDIHA.4952@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > Bruno, > If you find the ISP's DNS servers to be unreliable, you can: > - contact them to see if you have the right DNS servers > - change to using no Forwarder but instead use the automatic built-in root > hints. > You can not mix different DNS servers in the same client config like that. > If you still have problems after that, we can see what else may be wrong. > Anthony, http://www.airdesk.com > > > > "balexandre" <bruno.in.dk@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:1459F60C-E2DC-4131-AF0C-6F1C10616069@microsoft.com... >>I had problems once about that >> >> they simple did not work... I had to flushdns all the time, since I >> changed the dns to the outside servers in DHCP instead the server DNS, in >> other words, turn the DNS server off, everything worked fine... >> >> can that be the problem... cause, I dont see how, >> the server does not run as a "proxy" so, the internet connection is >> avaiable to all independent if the server is on or not. >> >> -- >> Bruno Alexandre >> Strøby, Danmark >> >> "a Portuguese in Denmark" >> >> >> "Anthony" <anthony.spam@spammedout.com> wrote in message >> news:emPF8%23LDIHA.2324@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>> Hi Bruno, >>> You have the wrong Preferred and Alternate DNS servers on your clients. >>> This should be set to your internal DNS server only, 192.168.2.10. You >>> should make this change in the DHCP service on the server. >>> Then in the DNS service on the server, set the Forwarder to your ISP's >>> DNS (which I assume are the others). >>> Just a minor point, but you seem to be running a WINS service but not >>> using it on the clients. You can either turn the service off, or add it >>> to the client settings in DHCP. >>> Hope that solves it, >>> Anthony, http://www.airdesk.com >>> >>> >>> . >>> "balexandre" <bruno.in.dk@gmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:074BEB3C-65D1-4B72-A768-0C7DEAA14FC0@microsoft.com... >>>>> 1) What errors do you have in the client event log 2) Turn on full >>>>> Auditing for the server, and what errors do you have in the server >>>>> event log? >>>> >>>> I deleted all the events and I'm waiting to the problem "pop up" again >>>> so I can see the Event Viewer on the server and on the client. >>>> >>>>> 3) What is the result of ipconfig/all on the server? >>>> C:\>ipconfig /all >>>> >>>> Windows 2000 IP Configuration >>>> >>>> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : fileserver >>>> Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . : domain1.dom >>>> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid >>>> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No >>>> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No >>>> DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : domain1.dom >>>> >>>> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: >>>> >>>> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : >>>> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel® PRO/1000 MT Network >>>> Connection >>>> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-C0-9F-25-ED-0F >>>> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No >>>> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.10 >>>> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 >>>> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1 >>>> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.10 >>>> Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.10 >>>> >>>> >>>>> 4) What is the result of ipconfig/all on the client? >>>> C:\>ipconfig /all >>>> >>>> Windows IP Configuration >>>> >>>> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : intercell8 >>>> Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : domain1.dom >>>> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown >>>> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No >>>> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No >>>> DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : domain1.dom >>>> Intercell >>>> >>>> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: >>>> >>>> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Intercell >>>> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x Family >>>> Fast Eth >>>> ernet NIC >>>> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0B-5D-96-98-00 >>>> Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes >>>> Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes >>>> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.37 >>>> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 >>>> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1 >>>> DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.10 >>>> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 194.239.134.83 >>>> 193.162.153.164 >>>> 192.168.2.10 >>>> Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 12. oktober 2007 09:14:00 >>>> Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 20. oktober 2007 09:14:00 >>>> >>>> Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection: >>>> >>>> Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected >>>> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel® PRO/Wireless >>>> 2915ABG Network Connection >>>> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-13-CE-9A-BE-C2 >>>> >>>>> 5) What has changed recently? >>>> since the problems started... nothing, just updates >>>> >>>>> 6) What happens if the user restarts the PC when the problem occurs? >>>> everything will be fine and accessible until the next "lost-connection" >>>> >>>>> 7) What happens if you restart the server when the problem occurs? >>>> problem remains >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Bruno Alexandre >>>> Strøby, Danmark >>>> >>>> "a Portuguese in Denmark" >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> > >
Guest jwd Posted October 12, 2007 Posted October 12, 2007 Re: Big (please read HUGE) problem in the network Active Directory simply wont work without DNS. Your clients use DNS to find Domain Controllers amongst other things. The external DNS servers will have no records for your domain so the clients will not be able to find internal resources. Best Regards Joe Dunn MCSE "balexandre" wrote: > I had problems once about that > > they simple did not work... I had to flushdns all the time, since I changed > the dns to the outside servers in DHCP instead the server DNS, in other > words, turn the DNS server off, everything worked fine... > > can that be the problem... cause, I dont see how, > the server does not run as a "proxy" so, the internet connection is avaiable > to all independent if the server is on or not. > > -- > Bruno Alexandre > Strby, Danmark > > "a Portuguese in Denmark" > > > "Anthony" <anthony.spam@spammedout.com> wrote in message > news:emPF8%23LDIHA.2324@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > > Hi Bruno, > > You have the wrong Preferred and Alternate DNS servers on your clients. > > This should be set to your internal DNS server only, 192.168.2.10. You > > should make this change in the DHCP service on the server. > > Then in the DNS service on the server, set the Forwarder to your ISP's DNS > > (which I assume are the others). > > Just a minor point, but you seem to be running a WINS service but not > > using it on the clients. You can either turn the service off, or add it to > > the client settings in DHCP. > > Hope that solves it, > > Anthony, http://www.airdesk.com > > > > > > . > > "balexandre" <bruno.in.dk@gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:074BEB3C-65D1-4B72-A768-0C7DEAA14FC0@microsoft.com... > >>> 1) What errors do you have in the client event log 2) Turn on full > >>> Auditing for the server, and what errors do you have in the server event > >>> log? > >> > >> I deleted all the events and I'm waiting to the problem "pop up" again so > >> I can see the Event Viewer on the server and on the client. > >> > >>> 3) What is the result of ipconfig/all on the server? > >> C:\>ipconfig /all > >> > >> Windows 2000 IP Configuration > >> > >> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : fileserver > >> Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . : domain1.dom > >> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid > >> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No > >> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No > >> DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : domain1.dom > >> > >> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: > >> > >> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : > >> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel® PRO/1000 MT Network > >> Connection > >> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-C0-9F-25-ED-0F > >> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No > >> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.10 > >> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 > >> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1 > >> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.10 > >> Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.10 > >> > >> > >>> 4) What is the result of ipconfig/all on the client? > >> C:\>ipconfig /all > >> > >> Windows IP Configuration > >> > >> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : intercell8 > >> Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : domain1.dom > >> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown > >> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No > >> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No > >> DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : domain1.dom > >> Intercell > >> > >> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: > >> > >> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Intercell > >> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x Family > >> Fast Eth > >> ernet NIC > >> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0B-5D-96-98-00 > >> Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes > >> Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes > >> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.37 > >> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 > >> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1 > >> DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.10 > >> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 194.239.134.83 > >> 193.162.153.164 > >> 192.168.2.10 > >> Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 12. oktober 2007 09:14:00 > >> Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 20. oktober 2007 09:14:00 > >> > >> Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection: > >> > >> Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected > >> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel® PRO/Wireless 2915ABG > >> Network Connection > >> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-13-CE-9A-BE-C2 > >> > >>> 5) What has changed recently? > >> since the problems started... nothing, just updates > >> > >>> 6) What happens if the user restarts the PC when the problem occurs? > >> everything will be fine and accessible until the next "lost-connection" > >> > >>> 7) What happens if you restart the server when the problem occurs? > >> problem remains > >> > >> -- > >> Bruno Alexandre > >> Strby, Danmark > >> > >> "a Portuguese in Denmark" > >> > >> > > > > >
Guest balexandre Posted October 12, 2007 Posted October 12, 2007 Re: Big (please read HUGE) problem in the network never thought in that prespective ! good point. but as I told Anthony, let's wait until it happends again. :-) -- Bruno Alexandre Strøby, Danmark "a Portuguese in Denmark" "jwd" <jwd@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:6F52A385-ADDE-4E74-BD08-F13B779AE759@microsoft.com... > > Active Directory simply wont work without DNS. Your clients use DNS to > find > Domain Controllers amongst other things. The external DNS servers will > have > no records for your domain so the clients will not be able to find > internal > resources. > > Best Regards > Joe Dunn MCSE > > "balexandre" wrote: > >> I had problems once about that >> >> they simple did not work... I had to flushdns all the time, since I >> changed >> the dns to the outside servers in DHCP instead the server DNS, in other >> words, turn the DNS server off, everything worked fine... >> >> can that be the problem... cause, I dont see how, >> the server does not run as a "proxy" so, the internet connection is >> avaiable >> to all independent if the server is on or not. >> >> -- >> Bruno Alexandre >> Strby, Danmark >> >> "a Portuguese in Denmark" >> >> >> "Anthony" <anthony.spam@spammedout.com> wrote in message >> news:emPF8%23LDIHA.2324@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> > Hi Bruno, >> > You have the wrong Preferred and Alternate DNS servers on your clients. >> > This should be set to your internal DNS server only, 192.168.2.10. You >> > should make this change in the DHCP service on the server. >> > Then in the DNS service on the server, set the Forwarder to your ISP's >> > DNS >> > (which I assume are the others). >> > Just a minor point, but you seem to be running a WINS service but not >> > using it on the clients. You can either turn the service off, or add it >> > to >> > the client settings in DHCP. >> > Hope that solves it, >> > Anthony, http://www.airdesk.com >> > >> > >> > . >> > "balexandre" <bruno.in.dk@gmail.com> wrote in message >> > news:074BEB3C-65D1-4B72-A768-0C7DEAA14FC0@microsoft.com... >> >>> 1) What errors do you have in the client event log 2) Turn on full >> >>> Auditing for the server, and what errors do you have in the server >> >>> event >> >>> log? >> >> >> >> I deleted all the events and I'm waiting to the problem "pop up" again >> >> so >> >> I can see the Event Viewer on the server and on the client. >> >> >> >>> 3) What is the result of ipconfig/all on the server? >> >> C:\>ipconfig /all >> >> >> >> Windows 2000 IP Configuration >> >> >> >> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : fileserver >> >> Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . : domain1.dom >> >> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid >> >> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No >> >> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No >> >> DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : domain1.dom >> >> >> >> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: >> >> >> >> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : >> >> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel® PRO/1000 MT >> >> Network >> >> Connection >> >> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-C0-9F-25-ED-0F >> >> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No >> >> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.10 >> >> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 >> >> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1 >> >> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.10 >> >> Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.10 >> >> >> >> >> >>> 4) What is the result of ipconfig/all on the client? >> >> C:\>ipconfig /all >> >> >> >> Windows IP Configuration >> >> >> >> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : intercell8 >> >> Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : domain1.dom >> >> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown >> >> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No >> >> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No >> >> DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : domain1.dom >> >> Intercell >> >> >> >> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: >> >> >> >> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Intercell >> >> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x Family >> >> Fast Eth >> >> ernet NIC >> >> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0B-5D-96-98-00 >> >> Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes >> >> Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes >> >> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.37 >> >> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 >> >> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1 >> >> DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.10 >> >> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 194.239.134.83 >> >> 193.162.153.164 >> >> 192.168.2.10 >> >> Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 12. oktober 2007 09:14:00 >> >> Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 20. oktober 2007 09:14:00 >> >> >> >> Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection: >> >> >> >> Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected >> >> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel® PRO/Wireless >> >> 2915ABG >> >> Network Connection >> >> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-13-CE-9A-BE-C2 >> >> >> >>> 5) What has changed recently? >> >> since the problems started... nothing, just updates >> >> >> >>> 6) What happens if the user restarts the PC when the problem occurs? >> >> everything will be fine and accessible until the next >> >> "lost-connection" >> >> >> >>> 7) What happens if you restart the server when the problem occurs? >> >> problem remains >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Bruno Alexandre >> >> Strby, Danmark >> >> >> >> "a Portuguese in Denmark" >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >>
Guest Austin Osuide Posted October 12, 2007 Posted October 12, 2007 Re: Big (please read HUGE) problem in the network Don't forget the forwarders on your DNS Servers or you won't be able to browse the Internet. Regards, Austin "balexandre" wrote: > never thought in that prespective ! > good point. > > but as I told Anthony, let's wait until it happends again. > :-) > > -- > Bruno Alexandre > Strøby, Danmark > > "a Portuguese in Denmark" > > > "jwd" <jwd@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:6F52A385-ADDE-4E74-BD08-F13B779AE759@microsoft.com... > > > > Active Directory simply wont work without DNS. Your clients use DNS to > > find > > Domain Controllers amongst other things. The external DNS servers will > > have > > no records for your domain so the clients will not be able to find > > internal > > resources. > > > > Best Regards > > Joe Dunn MCSE > > > > "balexandre" wrote: > > > >> I had problems once about that > >> > >> they simple did not work... I had to flushdns all the time, since I > >> changed > >> the dns to the outside servers in DHCP instead the server DNS, in other > >> words, turn the DNS server off, everything worked fine... > >> > >> can that be the problem... cause, I dont see how, > >> the server does not run as a "proxy" so, the internet connection is > >> avaiable > >> to all independent if the server is on or not. > >> > >> -- > >> Bruno Alexandre > >> Strby, Danmark > >> > >> "a Portuguese in Denmark" > >> > >> > >> "Anthony" <anthony.spam@spammedout.com> wrote in message > >> news:emPF8%23LDIHA.2324@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > >> > Hi Bruno, > >> > You have the wrong Preferred and Alternate DNS servers on your clients. > >> > This should be set to your internal DNS server only, 192.168.2.10. You > >> > should make this change in the DHCP service on the server. > >> > Then in the DNS service on the server, set the Forwarder to your ISP's > >> > DNS > >> > (which I assume are the others). > >> > Just a minor point, but you seem to be running a WINS service but not > >> > using it on the clients. You can either turn the service off, or add it > >> > to > >> > the client settings in DHCP. > >> > Hope that solves it, > >> > Anthony, http://www.airdesk.com > >> > > >> > > >> > . > >> > "balexandre" <bruno.in.dk@gmail.com> wrote in message > >> > news:074BEB3C-65D1-4B72-A768-0C7DEAA14FC0@microsoft.com... > >> >>> 1) What errors do you have in the client event log 2) Turn on full > >> >>> Auditing for the server, and what errors do you have in the server > >> >>> event > >> >>> log? > >> >> > >> >> I deleted all the events and I'm waiting to the problem "pop up" again > >> >> so > >> >> I can see the Event Viewer on the server and on the client. > >> >> > >> >>> 3) What is the result of ipconfig/all on the server? > >> >> C:\>ipconfig /all > >> >> > >> >> Windows 2000 IP Configuration > >> >> > >> >> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : fileserver > >> >> Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . : domain1.dom > >> >> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid > >> >> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No > >> >> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No > >> >> DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : domain1.dom > >> >> > >> >> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: > >> >> > >> >> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : > >> >> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel® PRO/1000 MT > >> >> Network > >> >> Connection > >> >> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-C0-9F-25-ED-0F > >> >> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No > >> >> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.10 > >> >> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 > >> >> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1 > >> >> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.10 > >> >> Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.10 > >> >> > >> >> > >> >>> 4) What is the result of ipconfig/all on the client? > >> >> C:\>ipconfig /all > >> >> > >> >> Windows IP Configuration > >> >> > >> >> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : intercell8 > >> >> Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : domain1.dom > >> >> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown > >> >> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No > >> >> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No > >> >> DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : domain1.dom > >> >> Intercell > >> >> > >> >> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: > >> >> > >> >> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Intercell > >> >> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x Family > >> >> Fast Eth > >> >> ernet NIC > >> >> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0B-5D-96-98-00 > >> >> Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes > >> >> Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes > >> >> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.37 > >> >> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 > >> >> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1 > >> >> DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.10 > >> >> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 194.239.134.83 > >> >> 193.162.153.164 > >> >> 192.168.2.10 > >> >> Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 12. oktober 2007 09:14:00 > >> >> Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 20. oktober 2007 09:14:00 > >> >> > >> >> Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection: > >> >> > >> >> Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected > >> >> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel® PRO/Wireless > >> >> 2915ABG > >> >> Network Connection > >> >> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-13-CE-9A-BE-C2 > >> >> > >> >>> 5) What has changed recently? > >> >> since the problems started... nothing, just updates > >> >> > >> >>> 6) What happens if the user restarts the PC when the problem occurs? > >> >> everything will be fine and accessible until the next > >> >> "lost-connection" > >> >> > >> >>> 7) What happens if you restart the server when the problem occurs? > >> >> problem remains > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> Bruno Alexandre > >> >> Strby, Danmark > >> >> > >> >> "a Portuguese in Denmark" > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> >
Guest Anthony Posted October 12, 2007 Posted October 12, 2007 Re: Big (please read HUGE) problem in the network Bruno, If you still have problems, it won't be because of these settings, and whatever it is we can try to fix it properly, Anthony, http://www.airdesk.com "balexandre" <bruno.in.dk@gmail.com> wrote in message news:07158830-4CB5-4262-9452-10D118FD36BC@microsoft.com... > never thought in that prespective ! > good point. > > but as I told Anthony, let's wait until it happends again. > :-) > > -- > Bruno Alexandre > Strøby, Danmark > > "a Portuguese in Denmark" > > > "jwd" <jwd@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:6F52A385-ADDE-4E74-BD08-F13B779AE759@microsoft.com... >> >> Active Directory simply wont work without DNS. Your clients use DNS to >> find >> Domain Controllers amongst other things. The external DNS servers will >> have >> no records for your domain so the clients will not be able to find >> internal >> resources. >> >> Best Regards >> Joe Dunn MCSE >> >> "balexandre" wrote: >> >>> I had problems once about that >>> >>> they simple did not work... I had to flushdns all the time, since I >>> changed >>> the dns to the outside servers in DHCP instead the server DNS, in other >>> words, turn the DNS server off, everything worked fine... >>> >>> can that be the problem... cause, I dont see how, >>> the server does not run as a "proxy" so, the internet connection is >>> avaiable >>> to all independent if the server is on or not. >>> >>> -- >>> Bruno Alexandre >>> Strby, Danmark >>> >>> "a Portuguese in Denmark" >>> >>> >>> "Anthony" <anthony.spam@spammedout.com> wrote in message >>> news:emPF8%23LDIHA.2324@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>> > Hi Bruno, >>> > You have the wrong Preferred and Alternate DNS servers on your >>> > clients. >>> > This should be set to your internal DNS server only, 192.168.2.10. You >>> > should make this change in the DHCP service on the server. >>> > Then in the DNS service on the server, set the Forwarder to your ISP's >>> > DNS >>> > (which I assume are the others). >>> > Just a minor point, but you seem to be running a WINS service but not >>> > using it on the clients. You can either turn the service off, or add >>> > it to >>> > the client settings in DHCP. >>> > Hope that solves it, >>> > Anthony, http://www.airdesk.com >>> > >>> > >>> > . >>> > "balexandre" <bruno.in.dk@gmail.com> wrote in message >>> > news:074BEB3C-65D1-4B72-A768-0C7DEAA14FC0@microsoft.com... >>> >>> 1) What errors do you have in the client event log 2) Turn on full >>> >>> Auditing for the server, and what errors do you have in the server >>> >>> event >>> >>> log? >>> >> >>> >> I deleted all the events and I'm waiting to the problem "pop up" >>> >> again so >>> >> I can see the Event Viewer on the server and on the client. >>> >> >>> >>> 3) What is the result of ipconfig/all on the server? >>> >> C:\>ipconfig /all >>> >> >>> >> Windows 2000 IP Configuration >>> >> >>> >> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : fileserver >>> >> Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . : domain1.dom >>> >> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid >>> >> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No >>> >> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No >>> >> DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : domain1.dom >>> >> >>> >> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: >>> >> >>> >> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : >>> >> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel® PRO/1000 MT >>> >> Network >>> >> Connection >>> >> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-C0-9F-25-ED-0F >>> >> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No >>> >> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.10 >>> >> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 >>> >> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1 >>> >> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.10 >>> >> Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.10 >>> >> >>> >> >>> >>> 4) What is the result of ipconfig/all on the client? >>> >> C:\>ipconfig /all >>> >> >>> >> Windows IP Configuration >>> >> >>> >> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : intercell8 >>> >> Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : domain1.dom >>> >> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown >>> >> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No >>> >> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No >>> >> DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : domain1.dom >>> >> Intercell >>> >> >>> >> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: >>> >> >>> >> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Intercell >>> >> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x >>> >> Family >>> >> Fast Eth >>> >> ernet NIC >>> >> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0B-5D-96-98-00 >>> >> Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes >>> >> Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes >>> >> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.37 >>> >> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 >>> >> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1 >>> >> DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.10 >>> >> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 194.239.134.83 >>> >> 193.162.153.164 >>> >> 192.168.2.10 >>> >> Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 12. oktober 2007 09:14:00 >>> >> Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 20. oktober 2007 09:14:00 >>> >> >>> >> Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection: >>> >> >>> >> Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected >>> >> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel® PRO/Wireless >>> >> 2915ABG >>> >> Network Connection >>> >> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-13-CE-9A-BE-C2 >>> >> >>> >>> 5) What has changed recently? >>> >> since the problems started... nothing, just updates >>> >> >>> >>> 6) What happens if the user restarts the PC when the problem occurs? >>> >> everything will be fine and accessible until the next >>> >> "lost-connection" >>> >> >>> >>> 7) What happens if you restart the server when the problem occurs? >>> >> problem remains >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> Bruno Alexandre >>> >> Strby, Danmark >>> >> >>> >> "a Portuguese in Denmark" >>> >> >>> >> >>> > >>> > >>> >
Guest CanSpam Posted October 12, 2007 Posted October 12, 2007 Re: Big (please read HUGE) problem in the network You may also set the Node Type to 0x8 in your DHCP Options settings - this would force client name resolvers to seek WINS, only then NetBIOS Broadcast (if NetBIOS is enabled as in default). Now it's Unknown - I have seen this be the source of slow Windows startup on client ("Preparing Network Connections" phase). Sergey, MCSE2003. balexandre felt like saying: > Thanks for the help, > > I put the DNS back like it was, so now I have on the client side: > > C:\>ipconfig /all > > Windows IP Configuration > > Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : intercell8 > Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : domain1.dom > Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No > DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : domain1.dom > Intercell > > Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: > > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Intercell > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast > Ethernet NIC > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0B-5D-96-98-00 > Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes > IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.37 > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1 > DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.10 > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.10 > Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 12. oktober 2007 14:01:15 > Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 20. oktober 2007 14:01:15 > > Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection: > > Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel® PRO/Wireless 2915ABG > Network Connection > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-13-CE-9A-BE-C2 > > > I'm waiting for the problem apear again... > > > -- > Bruno Alexandre > Strøby, Danmark > > "a Portuguese in Denmark" > > > "Anthony" <anthony.spam@spammedout.com> wrote in message > news:OkySBRMDIHA.4952@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> Bruno, >> If you find the ISP's DNS servers to be unreliable, you can: >> - contact them to see if you have the right DNS servers >> - change to using no Forwarder but instead use the automatic built-in root >> hints. >> You can not mix different DNS servers in the same client config like that. >> If you still have problems after that, we can see what else may be wrong. >> Anthony, http://www.airdesk.com >> >> >> >> "balexandre" <bruno.in.dk@gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:1459F60C-E2DC-4131-AF0C-6F1C10616069@microsoft.com... >>> I had problems once about that >>> >>> they simple did not work... I had to flushdns all the time, since I >>> changed the dns to the outside servers in DHCP instead the server DNS, in >>> other words, turn the DNS server off, everything worked fine... >>> >>> can that be the problem... cause, I dont see how, >>> the server does not run as a "proxy" so, the internet connection is >>> avaiable to all independent if the server is on or not. >>> >>> -- >>> Bruno Alexandre >>> Strøby, Danmark >>> >>> "a Portuguese in Denmark" >>> >>> >>> "Anthony" <anthony.spam@spammedout.com> wrote in message >>> news:emPF8%23LDIHA.2324@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>> Hi Bruno, >>>> You have the wrong Preferred and Alternate DNS servers on your clients. >>>> This should be set to your internal DNS server only, 192.168.2.10. You >>>> should make this change in the DHCP service on the server. >>>> Then in the DNS service on the server, set the Forwarder to your ISP's >>>> DNS (which I assume are the others). >>>> Just a minor point, but you seem to be running a WINS service but not >>>> using it on the clients. You can either turn the service off, or add it >>>> to the client settings in DHCP. >>>> Hope that solves it, >>>> Anthony, http://www.airdesk.com >>>> >>>> >>>> . >>>> "balexandre" <bruno.in.dk@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>> news:074BEB3C-65D1-4B72-A768-0C7DEAA14FC0@microsoft.com... >>>>>> 1) What errors do you have in the client event log 2) Turn on full >>>>>> Auditing for the server, and what errors do you have in the server >>>>>> event log? >>>>> >>>>> I deleted all the events and I'm waiting to the problem "pop up" again >>>>> so I can see the Event Viewer on the server and on the client. >>>>> >>>>>> 3) What is the result of ipconfig/all on the server? >>>>> C:\>ipconfig /all >>>>> >>>>> Windows 2000 IP Configuration >>>>> >>>>> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : fileserver >>>>> Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . : domain1.dom >>>>> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid >>>>> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No >>>>> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No >>>>> DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : domain1.dom >>>>> >>>>> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: >>>>> >>>>> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : >>>>> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel® PRO/1000 MT Network >>>>> Connection >>>>> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-C0-9F-25-ED-0F >>>>> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No >>>>> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.10 >>>>> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 >>>>> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1 >>>>> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.10 >>>>> Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.10 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> 4) What is the result of ipconfig/all on the client? >>>>> C:\>ipconfig /all >>>>> >>>>> Windows IP Configuration >>>>> >>>>> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : intercell8 >>>>> Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : domain1.dom >>>>> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown >>>>> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No >>>>> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No >>>>> DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : domain1.dom >>>>> Intercell >>>>> >>>>> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: >>>>> >>>>> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Intercell >>>>> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x Family >>>>> Fast Eth >>>>> ernet NIC >>>>> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0B-5D-96-98-00 >>>>> Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes >>>>> Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes >>>>> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.37 >>>>> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 >>>>> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1 >>>>> DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.10 >>>>> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 194.239.134.83 >>>>> 193.162.153.164 >>>>> 192.168.2.10 >>>>> Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 12. oktober 2007 09:14:00 >>>>> Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 20. oktober 2007 09:14:00 >>>>> >>>>> Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection: >>>>> >>>>> Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected >>>>> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel® PRO/Wireless >>>>> 2915ABG Network Connection >>>>> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-13-CE-9A-BE-C2 >>>>> >>>>>> 5) What has changed recently? >>>>> since the problems started... nothing, just updates >>>>> >>>>>> 6) What happens if the user restarts the PC when the problem occurs? >>>>> everything will be fine and accessible until the next "lost-connection" >>>>> >>>>>> 7) What happens if you restart the server when the problem occurs? >>>>> problem remains >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Bruno Alexandre >>>>> Strøby, Danmark >>>>> >>>>> "a Portuguese in Denmark" >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >
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