Faz Posted December 10, 2008 Posted December 10, 2008 Not sure where to put this really, could be lots of problems! :S I have had big troubles with me computer recently. Heres the story: I installed a PATA drive (that contained an install of xp) into my computer, because it wouldn't boot and i wanted to back stuff up using the previous xp install already on my computer. when this PATA drive was installed, my computer would not boot because of a 'computer disk hardware configuration problem' I then removed the PATA drive, and my computer booted as usual. therefore i installed the PATA drive to try and fix it again, but no luck (the PATA drive problem is a different issue, now resolved). i removed the PATA drive again, and my computer would not boot, giving an error similar to 'could not boot OS.' To try and fix this, I have ran CHKDSK from the xp recovery console/CD, 1 error was found and fixed. I have also removed all other HDD's and tried different SATA/power cables. Since trying these fixes, the error has changed to an 'NVIDIA boot agent' error. Now when booting my computer with the DVD drive in, it will ONLY boot from the dvd, regardless of what is in the boot sequence. Removing this DVD brings up the NVIDIA boot agent error, despite 'network' not being in the boot sequence either. Disabling the LAN in the bios brings up the "DISK BOOT FAILURE, INSERT SYSTEM DISK AND PRESS ENTER" error. The NVIDIA Boot Agent error is as follows: NVIDIA Boot Agent 229.0525 Copyright....Nvidia corp Copyright....Intel corp CLIENT MAC ADDR : ********* GUID: FFFFFFFF-FFFF-FFFF-FFFF-FFFFFFFFFFFF PXE-E53: No boot filename recieved PXE-M0F: Exiting NVIDIA Boot Agent .... (The above is repeated 1 more time) ... "DISK BOOT FAILURE, INSERT SYSTEM DISK AND PRESS ENTER" The interesting thing is xp recovery will see the original XP install on my HDD, so i am confused as to why it wont boot it properly. i have thought about doing a FIXMBR using the recovery, but don't want to kill/break this HDD as it does have stuff i don't want to lose! If anyone has any questions just ask, any help is much appreciated! thanks. Hardware: mobo - DFI Infinity NF UltraII M2 HDD's - Samsung 80GB Quote
RandyL Posted December 11, 2008 Posted December 11, 2008 Hi Faz Double check to see if all your cables are secure. Running fixboot and fixmbr from the recovery console are two other options. Quote We are all members helping other members. Please return here where you may be able to help someone else. After all, no one knows everything and you may have the answer that someone needs.Get help with computer problems. Join Free PC Help here Donations are welcome. Read Here
Dalo Harkin Posted December 11, 2008 Posted December 11, 2008 A SATA or PATA drive will normally register as the primary boot device even if you have another IDE drive installed. The problem you will be having is that the PATA has an OS on it - try the PATA in another PC and see if you can format the drive after pulling the data off it Quote Intel Q6600 @ 4Ghz (Watercooled)Asus P5K premium black pearl4GB OCZ Reaper 8500260GTX Join Free PC Help - Register here Donations are welcome - here PC Build We are all members helping other members.Please return here where you may be able to help someone else.After all, no one knows everything and you may have the answer that someone needs.
Faz Posted December 11, 2008 Author Posted December 11, 2008 (edited) Thanks for the replies, RandyL - I have checked the cables and ran both fixboot and fixmbr, and chkdsk again, just out of desperation :). The same problem is occuring. Dalo Harkin - The problem is not with the PATA drive (this belongs, and now is back in another computer). MY computer wont boot with its original OS on a SATA drive :) Edited December 11, 2008 by Faz Quote
Guest Wolfeymole Posted December 11, 2008 Posted December 11, 2008 Let's break this down a bit. You originally had a system with a sata drive containing XP yes? It would not boot. You tried to install an ATA drive that had XP on it hoping to boot from that yes? If so, wrong move. I'm surmising that the board contains both IDE and SATA connections yes? It sounds to me like this SATA drive is knackered. Alter the boot sequence to the sata connection on the board and get back to us. Quote
Faz Posted December 11, 2008 Author Posted December 11, 2008 You originally had a system with a sata drive containing XP - Yes, it did boot fine, then after adding & removing a pata drive, it ceased to boot. You tried to install an PATA drive that had XP on it hoping to boot from that? - No, the PATA drive was added to try and fix THAT drive, but in turn it somehow stopped this system from working even after it was removed. I'm surmising that the board contains both IDE and SATA connections? - Yes, atm just 1 IDE for DVD drive, 1 SATA for hdd. I believe the problem is with the BIOS/Mobo/maybe hdd? I can change the boot sequence to HDD only, and the computer will show the "DISK BOOT FAILURE, INSERT SYSTEM DISK AND PRESS ENTER" error. Thanks for the reply & sorry for the confused first post, this problem is quite over my head :) Quote
Guest Wolfeymole Posted December 11, 2008 Posted December 11, 2008 and the computer will show the "DISK BOOT FAILURE, INSERT SYSTEM DISK AND PRESS ENTER" error. You also said; I installed a PATA drive (that contained an install of xp) into my computer, because it wouldn't boot Would you agree that this message verifies my opinion that the sata hdd has failed? Quote
Faz Posted December 11, 2008 Author Posted December 11, 2008 (edited) ok i see, my apologies, that first post is very confusing and infact wrong. the pata drive was not installed to fix this system, it was installed to try and recover data from it, which is another issue. This system was working correctly before it was added, but not after. I don't see how adding/removing a new drive would break the SATA drive, physically, causing the "BOOT DISK FAILURE...". i can see how adding/removing drives may have 'confused' the bios/mobo somehow though? Edited December 11, 2008 by Faz Quote
Guest Wolfeymole Posted December 11, 2008 Posted December 11, 2008 Faz I'm really confused here ok. 1: "I installed a PATA drive (that contained an install of xp) into my computer, because it wouldn't boot" 2: "This system was working correctly before it was added" Can you see where we are coming from? Quote
Faz Posted December 11, 2008 Author Posted December 11, 2008 Ignore number 1, number 2 is correct. The SATA drive worked correctly until i installed a PATA drive. The system would not boot with this PATA drive in so i removed it and thats when the SATA drive stopped booting. Quote
Guest Wolfeymole Posted December 11, 2008 Posted December 11, 2008 Ok so rather than adding the ata drive as an external drive which would therefore not be regarded as a primary boot device I suggest you actually attached the ata, perhaps alongside the sata as a primary boot device, altered the bios boot sequence, and tried to boot from it. Would this be correct? Quote
Faz Posted December 11, 2008 Author Posted December 11, 2008 You are almost there! I always intended to boot from the SATA drive, as the PATA was having problems in another computer. Quote
Guest Wolfeymole Posted December 11, 2008 Posted December 11, 2008 You said; The problem is not with the PATA drive (this belongs, and now is back in another computer). MY computer wont boot with its original OS on a SATA drive Now either you start to tell us exactly what's going on here Faz so we can help you or this thread will be shut due to incorrect information on your part. You have already admitted that you have tried to boot from an operating system that is not native to that machine which is against Microsofts EULA. Please be specific from this point onwards. Quote
Faz Posted December 11, 2008 Author Posted December 11, 2008 I have never tried to boot from this PATA drive, i have only wanted to browse the files to back them up. I apologise for the bad communication but seeing as this problem is complicated, it is hard to explain it fully over a forum. Quote
Dalo Harkin Posted December 12, 2008 Posted December 12, 2008 Right - check that the SATA drive is plugged in and powered - at the HDD end and the MOBO end. Boot the PC - set the BIOS options to first boot device - HDD and DISABLE the others - SAVE and EXIT the BIOS. when it restarts does the System get to the OS? Quote Intel Q6600 @ 4Ghz (Watercooled)Asus P5K premium black pearl4GB OCZ Reaper 8500260GTX Join Free PC Help - Register here Donations are welcome - here PC Build We are all members helping other members.Please return here where you may be able to help someone else.After all, no one knows everything and you may have the answer that someone needs.
Faz Posted December 12, 2008 Author Posted December 12, 2008 Dalo Harkin - When this is done, it gives the "boot disk failure" error. The problem is somehow with the HDD or XP install. Due to a lack of time to get this sorted, i have resorted to using knoppix/linux on a CD and copying the data USB HDD. This will mean that I need to reinstall my windows xp, but that is much less hassle than losing the data in the first place! Thanks for your help you too, shame it couldnt be fixed the 'proper' way, as I am fairly certain the XP install was a bit messed up and just wouldnt boot, despite all the commands/fixes i did in the recovery console , as the HDD reads fine in linux. finally, sorry wolf - i did not mean to test your patience Quote
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